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Transcripts For CNNW New Day 20150415

Police say an offduty officer was assaulted after exiting his stopped car during the demonstration. A second officer was struck in the head with a bottle just a short time later. The outrage sparked by the shooting death caught on tape of walter scott in South Carolina. The unarmed black man shot several times while fleeing police after a routine traffic stop. Officer Michael Slager has since been charged with murder. Scotts death is just the latest in a string of fatal shootings at the hands of police. Starting with the death of Michael Brown in ferguson missouri last summer. And now this new video out of arizona igniting more questions about Excessive Force. This dash cam video shows a Police Cruiser ramming into an armed suspect in a Violent Crime spree seen here waving a gun and firing it. One round just went out into the sky. Its definitely unlocked now. Hes definitely loaded. Reporter the first officer on the scene warns a police unit coming towards 36yearold mario valencia valencia. Stand off. The gun is loaded. Reporter but just two seconds later. Oh jesus christ man down reporter now, valencia is facing 15 charges in part for robbing a 7eleven in his underwear, igniting a fire at a church and then stealing a car from a house and then steal ago gun as well. Now, police also say this man was suicidal pointing his gun to his head several times. So they believe they have saved this mans life. As for the protests those are pt kped to continue. Were expecting about 1,000 protesters here in new york. Michaela. All right, rosa, that video is so shocking from arizona. Also this morning the reserve deputy who gunned down a suspect in tulsa is out of jail after posting bond. Robert bates surrendering to authorities tuesday. Meanwhile the victims family says the 73yearold essentially paid for the right to play cop. Theyre vowing to fight until all questions are answered. Ryan joins us live from tulsa this morning. Reporter good morning, michaela. Robert bates bonded out just 30 minutes after turning himself in. There are about two dozen protesters who showed up outside the jail to show they were upset about the video that everyone has seen. This was a case where they had pulled over a man decided to buy a gun from operation, the man takes off running and they chase after him. At some point robert bates says taser, taser but instead fires his gun. Across the country tasers and guns are used on the opposite side of the waist. But in this case the gun was fired by an accident. He was shot in the back. That man would later die. The attorney for robert bates says this was an accident, something he didnt intend to do. You know, obviously he is very upset about what happened. He feels badly. The incident completely took him by surprise. He has all the requisite training. Hes taser certified. And if youve watched the video, you know he was quite shocked when his gun went off. Reporter now, eric harris would later die after being shot. I can tell you theres a lot of conversation in this Community Just about what exactly happened. Also the fact that bates has donated cars and money to the Sheriffs Department over the years. So people are wondering why he was out there in an operation just like this one, michaela. Ryan thanks so much. In our 8 00 hour were going to speak with scott wood the attorney that represents the tulsa deputy the reserve deputy who is now charged with manslaughter. Thats coming up chris. Are we seeing a trend or cases that just capture the interest of people . Lets discuss. Nypd retired detective harry houk and cnn analyst and director tom fuentes. Thank you. Harry, we start with the obvious. Cops out of control . No. Weve seen a couple instances in the last year here i wouldnt say out of control. We have millions and millions of interactions with Police Officers every year. And this is only about four or five different problems that weve had. Now, tom fuentes, numbers bear out what harry just said. Theres like 69 million contacts with people. And i have all these stats and graphs show Excessive Force is about at most about 1. 5 and that its down over the years. But then when we see these cases and we see that often Police Forces try to excuse the behavior it does feed the suspicion that theres a culture of excess. How do you see it . Well i see, chris, that several of these incidents have been blown so far out of proportion as to be ridiculous. And what the bottom line is with many of these is individuals failing to comply with a lawful order from the police. Whether its that theyre under arrest whether its stay in your car, whether in this case in arizona drop that gun, which can drop other people. You know, up to a mile away. To be calling that Excessive Force is absurd. True. But every case is different. Thats right. This case is different. And its absurd to call that Excessive Force. All right. Well you got to look at them one at a time. I have friends and loved ones on the force tell me the same thing, harry. Look at tulsa, all people agree who have been on the guy that guy should have been nowhere near task force. However he got there, he got there. But you see the guys when they run up on that guy they know hes been shot instead of tased, the undercover guy saying f your breath. I know hes ticked the guy ran. I know cops dont like that. But hes a professional. Right. He might not have known that guy was shot yet. Hes screaming he shot him, he shot him. All hes got to do is get him handcuffed. He doesnt know where he was shot. Youve got to get him handcuffed first. The fact he made a comment like that, its in the heat of the moment. Okay. Every time you try and arrest somebody they always tell you he cant breathe. You know he can breathe because hes saying he cant breathe. Look at the case in South Carolina, you got other cops walking up on the scene, lie about giving cpr allegedly. They dont have reports that echo what is obvious to everybody because they didnt know they were on videotape. And thats another thing that the stats show tom. Is that these 54 or so who wind up being prosecuted for killing somebody cops theyre mostly white. And almost all of the cases have video the guy was shot in the back and or a cop came clean about a coverup. What does that tell you . Well it tells me if a black officer shoots somebody its not going to get the attention as a white officer shooting a black person. I think thats part of the situation. We dont have adequate stats or information being furnished to the government to analyze the race of every shooter and every victim in these situations. So i think thats part of it. Its just tom, listen you know youre a trusted council on these issues to be sure. But the idea we dont have the resources to have the statistics doesnt make any sense. Of course we do. And the statistics show that two out of every three cops that shoot somebody are white. I got the stats in my hand. No we dont have the statistics chris. Thats not true. I have a report from the u. S. Department of justice, tom. And it says in here that two out of three cops who shoot somebody the Washington Post followed it up are white. And one out of three are black. Does that really matter . Probably the majority of Police Officers are white. Thats probably why youre seeing and a lot of perpetrators are black. Here in new york majority of crimes being committed are being committed by black people. Heres why it matters. I hear both of what youre saying and im testing the opposition because people are angry. Why they hear tom fuentes say dont run away from the police. Thats what starts this. Okay. You are the professionals. Youre not supposed to react the way the person does right . Theyre acting like the worst of us. We dont get paid to get killed. True. Thats a problem. We dont get paid to get hurt. We get paid very well for what we do and we take and put our lives in danger. But were not going to let ourselves get killed because somebody thinks that what were doing isnt politically correct. You know you have a couple instances where officers acted incorrectly. Okay. Thats a small amount. You said you have the statistics there. No question that Excessive Force is a small amount of all interactions. Right. So perception right now is reality. Although its not factual. Do you think that the police cause is being hurt by the reaction of agencies when you do have this infrequent case of Excessive Force, tom, do you think thats part of the problem . Well how do you define that . I mean were talking about several officers here who have been criminally charged, one with murder in the case of slager. And then the other officer, the reserve officer also criminally charged. We had an incident earlier this year with a South Carolina state trooper shooting the individual that he asked to produce id he went to his car, came out, the officer was fired that day. Hes being prosecuted. So i think that, you know actions are being taken when its necessary to take them. Now, some youre right, theres probably many a case that should have been brought that wasnt but were seeing many cases be brought when they should be. And its all about progress. Two issues pop up harry. One, these cases where we see a force come down quickly. Uhhuh. Video. Right. Body cameras. Uhhuh. Independent investigation. Not state looking at local but having outside units. Do you think those are appropriate changes to have on a mass scale . Those are great. I got no problem they get fought by a lot of agencies. Right. But if an officer acts properly i dont care bring in the fbi, civil Rights Violations i dont care. As long as youre acting properly as a Police Officer, its fine. And if it makes other people happy, do it. Bring in a state special prosecutor go ahead. But every time a white Police Officer has an encounter with somebody black that its racist thats the problem. You have these demagogues throwing the race card around. It creates demonstrations and riots. We have to have that stop. The bigger issue is we need to have a conversation on resisting arrest. Its like resisting arrest is okay. Its not okay. It brings it to another level where somebodys life is in danger. Theres no question that that is often an incendiary force. But when people are angry you have to unpack what the outrage is about and youve got to have the conversation otherwise you get no progress. Thank you very much. I know its not a comfortable conversation to have but its an important one. And as were saying every case is different and needs to be tested. Well do that with the most recent case in arizona. We have the police chief there whose officer intentionally admittedly rammed a crime scene suspect with a Police Cruiser. Was that right . Well discuss. You decide. John. Thanks so much. It was a lowkey political event as long as you consider live coverage and a swarm of scurrying reporters to be low key. Hillary Clinton Holding her First Campaign events in iowa. But really there is a big difference stylistically in her campaign at least so far this time around. Cnns senior Political Correspondent Brianna Keilar live in norwalk, iowa. Good morning, bringan na. Reporter good morning. Today shes having a Small Business roundtable here at capital city fruit outside of des moines. And its also a symbolic stop in this agriculture state of iowa. How are you . Reporter Hillary Clinton back on the campaign trail after a public stop at a small coffee shop in eclaire, iowa it was onto a round table discussion with students and faculty at a satellite campus of Kirkwood Community college in monticello. Clinton telling a small group of iowans why shes running in person for the first time. Im running for president because i think americans and their families need a champion. And i want to be that champion. Reporter she struck a populous tone taking on wall street and stagnant middle class wages. The deck is still stacked in favor of those already at the top. Theres something wrong when ceos make 300 times more than the typical worker. Reporter and despite personally blessing a super pac to support her run, she said she wants to clamp down on outside political groups. We need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all, even if that takes a constitutional amendment. Reporter its a far cry from her unsuccessful effort here eight years ago. The big rallies. Im in it to win it. Reporter and her ride with the campaign nicknamed the hillicopter traded in for the scooby van that had national and local media running for a Hillary Clinton sighting. Whats it like to be back in the game . Its great. Reporter but clintons appearance is Serious Business in iowa. Democratic operatives in the Hawkeye State tell cnn iowans are eager to connect with her, but they want substance on the issues. Ill be rolling out ideas and policies about what i think will work. But i want it to be informed by whats actually working. Reporter and we expect it to be some time before Hillary Clinton really talks specifics. Four to five weeks, i am told by an aide. So right now shes in this listening phase hearing ideas and concerns before she addresses them. Thats what her campaign is saying michaela. All right. Were going to unpack that a little bit with some of our political Experts Joining us in a while. More now a Key Senate Panel approving the compromise measure that allows lawmakers to have a say on any final nuclear deal with iran. This morning irans president is responding to the move from congress. All of this as president obama is poised to remove cuba from the u. S. List of state sponsors of terrorism. A whole lot to look at with michelle kosinski. Reporter right after weeks of battling and lobbying this looks like a real compromise. I mean the white house is framing it this way, that this would not be an exactly up or down vote on the Iran Nuclear Deal congress would take. But a vote on whether to remove the sanctions that were imposed by congress in the first place. Thats something we knew that they could do anyway right . But if this bill does pass it would also make the white house submit the deal in writing to congress with classified materials, there would be a review period. The white house would have to certify periodically that iran was living up to the deal. The question is if congress is going to vote on whether or not to remove those sanctions, would this effectively then be an up or down vote . Iran seems to think so. Its president just said there will be no deal unless all the sanctions are lifted. Now, the other big news is that president obama now officially says it is time to remove cuba from the list of state sponsors of terror. Now, that is something that this divided congress would have an up or down vote on. They have 45 days to respond to that. John. Ill take it. Thank you very much. Oh chris. Its fine. We all look alike. Theres a big situation in atlanta to tell you about. Fireworks in court as former educators convicted in the Atlanta Public School cheating scandal learn their fate. Now, most of them are getting harsher sentences because they refuse to own up to their crimes. We have Victor Blackwell on the scene joining us from the cnn center in atlanta with more on this. A lot of people involved. Some did different tacts there, victor but how did it turn out . Ten of the 11 teachers and test administrators now convicted in this case. And the judge in this case really said he wanted the defendants here now convicted felons to own up to their roles in this scandal. When some refused there was shouting and finger pointing even threats to throw the Defense Attorneys in jail. Do yall have anything to say about the decision to . Reporter this morning ten atlantic Public School educators now out on bond some planning their appeals. After a judge sentenced them to prison on tuesday for a years long cheating scandal, changing answers on standardized tests. Everybody in the Education System at aps knew that cheating was going on. And your client promoted it. Reporter judge jerry baxter dolling out prison sentences to eight of the former educators, punishments of the crime of racketeering charges normally reserved for violent mobsters. There were thousands of children harmed in this thing. This is not a victimless crime that occurred in this city. Reporter according to the indictment, the cheating conspiracy dates back to 2001. And for at least four years between 2005 and 2009 the educators altered, fabricated and falsely certified test answers. Three of the educators face the harshest sentence seven years in prison. And 13 years of probation. A punishment that some of the Defense Attorneys strongly fought. I am making a motion for you to recuse yourself because you are not making decisions based apparently youre going back and forth you sit down. Im going to put you in jail. If you yell at me point at me reporter judge baxter actually agreed to leniency the day before sentencing allowing prosecutors to offer plea deals on monday but only two took them. I was trying to give everybody one more chance. And, you know probably going to be have tomatoes thrown at me but, you know nobody took it. Nobody took it. Things change. All i want from any of these people is just to take some responsibility. But they refuse. They refuse. I am convinced that your client

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