pipe bombs around the building and shoot people as they fled. the 20-year-old came to the fbi's attention several months ago for alarming social media posts, talking about violent jihad. the fbi says cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. a criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the united states. but wanted to wage jihad on his own, writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the islamic state here and plan operations ourselves. he researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. wednesday, cornell purchased two m-15s and 600 rounds of ammunition. from this gun store in cincinnati. before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. the gun store owner, who had been cooperating with authorities, described cornell's demeanor. >> there wasn't really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in something like this. >> his parents, devastated and in shock. >> i'm just heartbroken. i want to give him a big hug and bring him home. because he ain't out to hurt nobody. >> he may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable and i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. >> john cornell says his son recently took up an interest in islam. but had never mentioned isis. >> he explained the peaceful side of islam to me and he never showed any, any signs of any, any kind of violence or anything. i mean quiet, shy, good kid. >> the informant in this case had flagged cornell for the authorities back in the fall noting twitter activity. the informant in this case somebody who is working to improve his own legal standing. cornell will head to court tomorrow for a detention hearing, he'll be back in court next week for a pretrial hearing. >> so the way this sets up is that the picture of this young man now is very troubling. but is it the whole picture? the concern was a paris-like attack just averted? or is this something different? >> let's bring in former fbi assistant director tom fuentes and president of 4 d-pac, jim arkedis. what do they have on this guy? >> to start with the social media, and he kept indicating in a number of subsequent meetings with later with an informant that he intended to carry out an attack if he possibly could. >> and what is the bar, tom? help people understand the situation. when do you go from just talk to what a authorities have to accept as actionable intelligence? >> well the question is. was he on his own, did he want to do this how much help did the fbi give him in furthering his interest in doing this. when he finally purchases the weapons. you know that will come out in the, in the subsequent evidence of whether or not he was entrapped, he was pushed into this. but normally i can tell you the fbi is so busy these days they don't really go out of their way to try to entrap somebody. they have enough people whether it's him or others that express an interest to do harm and they can't take it lightly. if a person acquires the weapons, we've seen how little it takes for someone to do something. no matter how old they are or no matter how inexperienced. >> so it feels like a legit bust to you, tom? >> i would guess so yes. >> based on what you know. what's the other side? we've been hearing from his parents, let's play sound from his father about why he believes his son -- the parents had no idea any of this was going on. although the young man had all of this activity online. here's what he said about why he doesn't think his son was serious. >> he's never been well he's been out of the state of ohio a couple of times when he was younger and he's a big momma's boy. his best friend is this kitty cat named mikey. i can't believe, this is just like total shock. >> all right. the kitty-cat named mikey, jim arkedis, is not instructive. he also said he didn't have access to a car, he didn't have a driver's license, he was living very close to his parents, very close to him. he's painting a picture of this 20-year-old, not really being a 20-year-old. but there's no known mental or emotional diagnosis on the kid what is your skepticism about whether or not the 20-year-old is what he presents. i'm calling him a kid, but at that age, a man can be very dangerous. >> look we live in a situation where there's a lot of pressure on law enforcement agencies to produce results, the only time we hear talk about the fbi or c.i.a. is when one of these guys gets through, right? this may be a case let's talk about how to execute a successful terrorism attack. it's a marriage of capabilities and intentions, sure he had the intentions but did he have the capability? probably not. rule number one, if you're going to conduct a successful terrorist attack is not to put it on twitter. above and beyond that, we have a situation where okay they do the bust they talked about the possibilities of entrapment that's all fine. and then we have fbi sources coming out and saying don't worry, the public was never in danger anyway. my skepticism evolves from a position of if the public was never in danger anyway and the fbi had undercover agents involved with this guy from the get-go why are we hearing about it? why are we talking about it on cnn? >> here's other side of it tom, what have we seen time and again in this country, somebody who isn't taken seriously, just seen as a misfit who may have a problem, but not really dealt with. parents are somewhat oblivious, they get their hands on a weapon and all of a sudden a lot of people are dead. how do you balance these two things tom? >> that's exactly right. when that happens, what you just described, it's well, they dropped the ball. this guy came up on their radar, or this group of people came up on their radar, they're not going to be able to take somebody like this and say he doesn't really mean it he's just some goofy kid, we're not going to worry about him. and then something happens and they drop the ball. i think that's the problem. we've seen this happen so many times where the parents don't have a clue we saw it with the young kids that left many of the communities, the somali communities in the u.s. and went back to somalia and their parents had no clue. they went to the fbi and said my son just disappeared. do you know what happened. so parents are often the last to know if they have somebody that's up to no good. but for the bureau they can't follow people around for the rest of their lives. just in case. >> right. and jim, let's take the fbi case at face value for right now. if there's a time to be hair-trigger it is now. what is the insight into the ability of bad guy groups like isis reaching out through social media and getting into the impressionable mind maybe the deficient mind of younger people who could become capable. just like this guy? >> well it's a question of casting a wide net. you're going to have people all throughout the country, all throughout the world who are susceptible to radicalization. and if isis is able to have cast a wide net, broadcast its message, sure you're going to get impressionable guys who like this kid's father said. he never left the state of ohio he didn't have access to a car. it speaks to a relatively sheltered individual. and so if they're looking to identify themselves if somebody is looking to define themselves especially in the age of social media. and you could put something on twitter or facebook and all of a sudden you're important, you're something. and people are paying attention to you. and the fbi is coming after you. then all of a sudden you're a thing and so that's kind of the process that we might be dealing with here. >> as we deal with this cultural evolution, tom, let me put this last question to you. the parents, pointing the finger at the fbi, you gave him the money, you entrapped him, we didn't know anything. they're pointing the finger at the fbi. what about pointing the finger back at them. this kid is on social media going through his own evolution towards islam, his understanding of it even by their own reckoning was not mainstream. what about the parents? what about the level of awareness? how much blame and responsibility is there in. >> that's a good question chris. when somebody is 18 years old and you know they should be pretty much more independent. he could have gone away kids that age -- >> but he didn't. >> but they're not going to babysit him 24/7. and i think this happens over and over. that kids get on the internet they get radicalized and the parents just don't track them closely enough to even know that that's happened. >> the awareness of what's going on with social media. a 20-year-old is a different animal than a 12-year-old, but it just shows everything going into awareness, from law enforcement to parents, obviously there are changes that are needed. tom fuentes, thank you very much and jim arkedis. this morning belgian prosecutors say they've arrested a man linked to the partner of amedy coulibaly. the terrorist who killed four people in the kosher grocery store. last friday according to a french newspaper. security services identified a fourth suspect. they're identifying a fourth suspect today. and we're seeing new surveillance video from inside the besieged market. you can see the hostages there grouping together. all of this as two of the murdered cartoonists, "charlie hebdo" columnist and a police officer are laid to rest. john berman joins us live from paris as he has been all week. john every single day, it seems there's more than comes out in this investigation. what's the latest? >> yeah. more leads from more locations, alisyn. truly fascinating. the latest comes from belgium. an arrest in the town of charlevoix where this man has been arrested on weapons charges. why? the guy turned himself in apparently had bought a car from the girlfriend of amedy coulibaly, hayat boumeddiene, the woman now on the run in syria. they bought a car from her, they searched this guy's apartment, what did they find? they found documents that link this man to some weapons owned by amedy coulibaly. he is now being held this suspect in belgium, on weapons charges. it shows you how big the web of this investigation is growing. you have an arrest in belgium. a man being held in bulgaria. a girlfriend on the run in syria. and you have this claim in yemen of responsibility for being behind the whole attack. a huge investigation. chilling surveillance images from inside the kosher market in paris, captured terrorists amedy coulibaly. his three-hour siege that killed four people. coulibaly can be seen dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, wearing what appears to be a bulletproof vest. in the aisle, a child abandoned stroller lying on the floor, two people he gunned down when he first burst in. the body closest to the camera believed to be that of an employee johan cohen. he reportedly grabbed one of coulibaly's guns, but it jammed he was shot to death. more than an hour into the standoff coulibaly ordered some hostages to disable security cameras in the building. >> i think this person was trained, he was somewhat sophisticated. >> as the investigation continues into how he obtained weapons, a french newspaper acquired a copy of a loan application. coulibaly borrowed around $7,000 back in december. cnn has not independently confirmed the authenticity of these documents. this as another french newspaper, "la parisienne" claim french authorities search for accomplice to coulibaly. shooting and wounding a jogger south of the park last week. the ammunition used in the attack was the same as that used in one of coulibaly's guns. >> the sort of lone wolf gets more difficult for law enforcement to follow. they're spread out, so many more of them to follow. >> since the terror last week more than 50 judicial proceedings have been opened in france for inciting terrorism and racist or antisemitic comments or actions. many proceedings involve graffiti on mosques. this country remains on high alert as the funerals for the victims killed in the attacks continue. we heard just moments ago from u.s. secretary of state, john kerry, who is in bulgaria right now, he is traveling here to paris later today. the secretary of state says he is coming to this country to give the people of france what he calls, a big hug, after last week's attack or i suppose in french that would be a grande embrasse. the secretary of state does speak perfect french and i think he will be welcomed here by the parisians. >> we hear that they are looking forward to his visit, even if they think it is several days late. good morning to you at home. topping our headlines, four top officials in the secret service are being reassigned in a major management shake-up. the agency's acting director says change is necessary following a series of embarrassing security lapses last summer. let's get the latest from our michelle kosinski live in the white house with details. director clancy said this was coming. >> ever since the now-infamous white house fence jumper incident in september exposed an array of deep-rooted problems at the secret service, we've seen the need for change here. the director said that a french perspective is needed. the question has been out there, who would be held accountable. the director did lose her job and now we see the of the top-ranking secret service employees, the assistant directors of investigations protection public public affairs and technology reassigned not fired, but reassigned. and a fifth person has retired. so after the series of security breaches and embarrassments the acting director said this was devastating. and the independent panel's review after the fence-jumper incident voeed that the agency was quote starved for leadership. that there was low morale, a chronic lack of training and short staffing also an unlocked front door at the white house. the panel recommended that the fence outside the white house be four feet taller but so far, we haven't seen a change there. michaela? >> we'll wait to see who is appointed to those new positions, michelle kosinski with the latest. indonesian divers searching for bodies in the fuselage of airasia flight 8501. a military jet found the wreckage two miles from where the tail of the aircraft was discovered. investigators are examining the contents of the black box recorders, which could reveal why the plane went down killing all 162 people aboard. pope francis has arrived in philippines for a five-day visit, he received a lively welcome from more than 1,000 children gathered to perform a traditional dance. his visit has been declared a national holiday in the philippines, most businesses and roads in manila closed down. pope francis says his visit is designed to add momentum to the growth of catholocism in asia. yosemite's el capitan has been scaled many times before but not quite like this. two americans are the first to free-climb el cap's granite wall. free-climb means they only used their hands and feet to climb. it took them 19 days to reach the peak. only 3,000 feet up. they got a lot of achecolades, but probably none better than this president obama tweeting his congratulations, saying you remind us that anything is possible. they tried before they failed there were injuries, failed attempts, but they did it this time. >> it does look like one of them has a hangnail though. he has a band-aid on one of his fingers. that's the injury he got after this incredible climb. >> apparently at night they would file down their fingertips. >> imagine the parents, the families of those guys waiting for this to happen. >> oh god. it's so nerve-wracking we're so leap for them and proud of them. >> congratulations, glad it's over. well it has been a bitterly cold start to january for much of the country. but milder temperatures we hear, are on the way. meteorologist, let's see, chad myers is keeping track of all of this. >> what is the myers mile? >> it will be 80 in havana. it just depends on where you're going. a nice day in puerto rico. but i know you weren't impressed, chris, yesterday, but you're ten degrees warmer than yesterday. but alpena almost 30 degrees warmer and chicago, it feels like a heat wave to 45 eventually. st. louis, 45. even minneapolis, above freezing for the first time in two weeks. first time above 32 morning or night, for the first time in two solid weeks. so yes, here we go. d.c. you're at 43. that is exactly normal. boston new york 36 for today. christopher charles, i know you weren't impressed yesterday. but hey, you know what, you get what you get and you don't pitch a fit. that's what they say in kindergarten kindergarten. we're going to be all the way into the 40s by sunday. a cold front keeps you cool for the rest of the weekend. for your saturday. but look at that. 46 for your little jog up on the east side christopher charles parkway there. we're going to give you. >> i'm sensing a little tune coming from you, chad everett. >> is that your middle names. >> is charles your middle name? 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ask your doctor about farxiga and visit our website to learn how you may be able to get every month free. the massacres in france started a global conversation about freedom of speech and the importance of protecting it. but let's be honest -- even our closest allies in the middle east do not impressive records on this issue and today shockingly repressive acts are going on in places like saudi arabia and even turkey. let's bring in middle east analyst robin wright the author of "the islamists are coming: who they really are." robin, nice to have you with us this morning. tomorrow in saudi arabia a blogger will be publicly flogged for the second time in two weeks, he's scheduled to be publicly flogged every single friday for the next five months. for the crime of having a blog that does things like report and poke fun at saudi arabia for its ban on valentine's day. how do you explain what's going on in saudi arabia? >> well this is tremendous hypocrisy. saudi arabia was one of the first arab countries to come out and condemn the attacks against "charlie hebdo." but when it comes to its own population it refuses to allow even a modicum of free speech. a young blogger, father of three, had a website called liberal saudi network. it often had the same kind of religious sarcasm, very mild though. he poked the religious police in saudi arabia for patrolling candy stores and flower shops. before valentine's day, which is considered an infidel celebration in saudi arabia or at least by the government. people celebrate it anyway. and he was, he also on his website said that jews and muslims and christians and people of other faiths are all equals as human beings. and for his boldness over very basic statements he has been sentenced to 1,000 lashes a ten-year prison sentence and a quarter of a million dollar fine. and the united states has condemned this and called for the brutal punishment to be abdicated. but the saudis take him out from his cell every friday to a public square so his punishment can be viewed widely by the saudi people. >> at one time he was going to be eligible for the death penalty, but they backed off from that. however, his wife today, says that she has spoken to him, he's in a lot of pain as you would imagine and that he is deteriorating. she doesn't know that he will survive actually 1 a,000 lashes. is this an anomaly or does saudi arabia routinely punish writers and bloggers like this? >> it's very repressive when it comes to anyone who veers from the basic saudi doctrine. and wahabi islam is the most conservative the most fundamentalist of all the islamic sects, it's no accident that the al qaeda operatives of osama bin laden grew out of the wahabi fundamental view of the world and islam's unique role in human history. >> let's move on to turkey. which as you know is often held up as the this paragon of secularism. what's going on with freedom of speech there? >> there again, you saw the prime minister of turkey show up in paris and march alongside all the world leaders. and yet at home. a court yesterday banned the publication of any of the "charlie hebdo" cartoons that were that were in the first issue since the attack. on any turkish website. there was a police raid as well on a paper that was going to publish versions of the cartoons. the paper decided to put them inside and were eventually allowed to do that. but there is you know the most popular tweeting trend in turkey yesterday was "charlie hebdo" should not be distributed in my country. and you see this real tension between the condemnation of violence and the support of free press. >> and it's not just since "charlie hebdo," many journalists in turkey have been jailed. so what should the u.s. do about its so-called allies in this regard? >> well this is a fundamental question in some ways the united states needs both turkey and saudi arabia for a lot of different reasons. including the fight against extremists. turkey borders syria and iraq and of course is taken in hundreds of thousands of turkish syrian refugees it is critical as a nato ally. on a lot of different fronts saudi arabia because of its oil. we've always looked the other way. this is a conundrum. but it's certainly clear that enough has not been said about this issue, whether it's in washington or paris. >> we appreciate you speaking out about it robin wright her book "the islamists are coming." can you find it online. chris? new images of the carnage left behind by boko haram in northern nigeria. the problem is no one is stepping in to stop it. why isn't the terror group a higher priority? how did the terrorists in the paris attack fund the plot? how did they get the cash? we're going to discuss this next. introducing data stash. now at t-mobile, all your unused data rolls forward to the next month. we'll even get you started with 10 gigabytes of free 4g lte data. data stash. only from t-mobile. welcome back it's just 6:30 in the morning, i know you're running around this is worth a moment. we're seeing with a nigeria and frankly the world has failed to stop in nigeria in the form of boko haram. amnesty international published this satellite image this shows a nigerian town that's been wiped off the map. thousands of homes, businesses damaged or destroyed. and of course the fate of the families in many cases is just too horrible to describe. nigerian military officials report another boko haram attack has been thwarted. but clearly the situation is out of control. nic robertson is in northern nigeria for us. nic, what is the situation? >> we've been talking to soldiers here chris, and what they tell us is a very very worrying and troubling picture. they say they're being outgunned, outmanned, outresourced by boko haram. when they get on the battlefield. boko haram, they say, have big anti-aircraft guns on the backs of trucks. weapons that are accurate up to three-quarters of a mile. the soldiers say they only have small, ak-47s, weapons that are only useful up to a few hundred yards. they only have 60 bullets when they go into battle. boko haram they say have many more bullets, they put down more firepower. the soldiers for the most part are forced to withdraw. the soldiers even have to pay for their own uniforms they don't have flack jackets and helmets in many cases, they've been eaten from the battlefield by boko haram. their morale is low, this is one of the reasons that boko haram is able to make the gains they're making and that the military successes are really rather few and far between, chris. >> i know it's a very dangerous situation on the ground thank you for being there, you have the military and the political. you have goodluck jonathan. talking about france but not talking about what's happening in his own country and the international community says not asking for help in the way that maybe he should be. thank you for reporting, stay safe. let's get over to mick. here's a look at your headlines, an ohio man is behind bars this morning, for allegedly plotting an isis-inspired attack on the u.s. capital. officials say this man, christopher lee cornell, was planning to detonate pipe bombs targeting lawmakers that he considered enemies. and then shoot people as they fled. 20-year-old came to the fbi's attention several months ago. for his alarming social media posts talking about violent jihad. secretary of state john kerry arrives in paris today in the wake of the terror attacks in paris. he wants, he says to gig a big huff to all parisians when he gets there. in addition to paying his respects we're learning that secretary kerry may meet with iran's foreign minister in paris tomorrow for nuclear talks. a "washington post" journalist detained in iran for months has been indict and will stand trial. now it's not clear what jason rezian has been charged with. if tehran moves ahead with the prosecution, it could complicate president obama's efforts to forge a nuclear agreement with iran. indianapolis colts linebacker josh mcnairy is facing a felony rape charge. a woman claims he sexually assaulted her after the two met in bar last month. the 26-year-old is also charged with criminal confinement and misdemeanor battery resulting in bodily injury. the colts meet the new england patriots in the afc championship game this weekend. the nfl says the matter clearly is under review. those are your headlines. they pulled off the worst terror attack that france has seen in decades, where did the suspects get the money? 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>> the u.s. believes that al qaeda in yemen gave this guy, cherif kouachi, $20,000 seed money for the plot against "charlie hebdo" magazine. he travels back to france and appears that the brothers eventually burn through that money. because they have to borrow money from coulibaly. and coulibaly reveals this in the video, had to give the brothers some money so they could finish buying their weapons. >> we'll get to coulibaly in a second. one thing we know he gleaned, cherif traveled under his brother, said's passport. significance there? >> he was under control in france he had his passport confiscated. this was the only way he could get into yemen. get into these camps. >> let's talk about the brother, or not the brother, the accomplice but then again, we want to know accomplice a known person to the brothers. amedy coulibaly. who you mentioned before was borrowing his own money. some $7,000 loan which couldn't have been a flag in france necessarily. but now we find out there was this loan. talk about the significance here. >> he went to a bank in northern france and applied for a 6,000 euro loan. perhaps to get money to give to the brothers so they could buy weapons. perhaps to give it to his companion, hayat boumeddiene. so she could travel to syria. it's not clear at this point. we've seen these kind of fraudulent loans in a bunch of other terrorism cases before. you know in new york in 2009 there's the plot in the subways, he suspect got $50,000 for credit card loans which he used to travel to pakistan where he got training. there's a track record of these guys using the western financial system against itself. >> let's talk about the tracking we put together the map of the characters and the suspects and the people involved in this plot. the two named -- the kouachi brothers we know obviously, they're going to be looking at all of their points of contacts. how do they determine? somebody they knew somebody they might have been very close to and somebody that was a contact they were close to or could have been an accomplice. >> it's a giant spider web of connections they're looking into. and this is very clear to the viewers, this is a network. this is not like the boston bombers, brothers working on their own. >> this is a network, a cell. a lot of these guys had connections dating back to 2005 when a lot of them wanted to fight in iraq to kill american forces over there. one of these guys jamal begal, part of the al qaeda setoff in pre-9/11 afghanistan, he went to bin laden's house in afghanistan where a senior al qaeda operative, abu zubaydah launched an attack. >> we've seen the video of the two, hayat boumeddiene said to be the partner of amedy coulibaly. we saw video or a still image of her traveling with this man, what do we know about this individual? >> we know very little about him. >> the shadow figure at this point. >> he's suspected of radicalism ties to this group. what we're seeing is a whole bunch of people getting out of dodge in the weeks before this attack. we've seen this guy joaquim, arrested in bulgaria trying to get into turkey. some of these guys in syria already, the groups over there, whether it's nusra or isis are going to roll out the red carpet for them. >> al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is said to have said yes, we take full responsibility and we financed the kouachi brother's activities in paris. but they point to fact that coulibaly was merely a coincidence, they said we congratulate him, but he was merely a coincidence. what does that tell you? >> one of the hypothesis is that al qaeda in yemen recruits these two brothers these two brothers recruit their friend who they've known for the last five years into this plot. so there's this coalition on the ground in france between an isis sympathizer, and people who were recruited into al qaeda in yemen. back in the middle east isis and al qaeda in yemen, they can't stand each other right now. think there's little chance that this was a formal joint operation between the two groups. but on the ground, the friends who have been connected in plots in the past all of these three guys were involved in a plot to break an algerian terrorist from jail in 2010 they cooperated again. they clearly felt they could trust this guy. they could get money from this guy. because he was a hashish dealer. he was able to raise money that way as well. >> paul cruickshank, and the concern is who he then inspired who is still around. and who they haven't made contact with. all right, paul cruickshank great to have you here. thanks for walking us through this. if we're talking about terrorism, you got to talk about politics because they go hand in hand. and the republican presidential field already crowded for 2016. is that a win for democracy? 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sergeant pepper. >> what's going on margaret with the republican side? how come we're seeing jeb and rand paul and mitt romney and chris christie and everybody throwing their hat in? >> the fact we have a crowded primary is not necessarily news the fact that it's this crowded early, it's much earlier than anybody anticipated, because jeb bush threw his hat in the ring that sped up everybody else's calendar. chris christie had been thinking woe make a decision by the spring that timetable has moved up. as well as the other candidates. >> what does it mean that jeb saying or initiating whatever verb we're using this time why didn't that make people not get in? what does it mean they're getting in even though they got in. does it mean they don't think he's strong? >> the reason that jeb getting in moved the calendar the rush for donors got serious. the candidates especially those on the center right said i'm not going to let him -- >> you know the calculation. john's getting in it's real? let's back off. you know that's usually the way the calculus goes here. >> other republican candidates think that jeb has vulnerabilities. jeb is a bush. jeb has supported things that the republican base have not supported. common core immigration reform and so i think the reason other candidates think that they would, are throwing their hats in the ring because they think he has vulnerabilities, they would be better. that's why mitt romney has called all of his advisers and is revamping the engines. >> and there's a yolo quality to all of this right now. you have a bunch of people running for president, it's like hey, you only live once let's get in the pool. maybe i'll end up veep. that's happening. >> where's the rnc in all of this alisyn? aren't they policing this? >> well republicans' philosophy is more the merrier. let's have a robust debate. but rans but rans preeb is -- >> they're trying to control the parameters. s did not going to be a circus of 20 debates like you had last time where it just goes on and on and on. that's what the republicans -- >> you said laugh time. that was good for sirius xm. isn't that the victory for democracy, having as many debates as possible? you get to vet your candidates? people know who you really are. >> i 100% agree with you, but the republican party, too much scrutiny. too much time spent debating. they want to control the process as much as possible. the biggest concern is it gets out of control. that means more opportunities for candidates to screw up. the more debates the better. but this will be one crowded stage and the range is going to be wide. >> what about the second tier i guess if you call them those candidates ben carson mike huckabee do any of them cancel each other out. >> i don't know that mike huckabee is second tier. >> you're right. >> carly fiorina, thinking if you lose a senate seat you can run for president. do they cancel each other out? >> they're pretending they're running for president, but the consideration is to be for vice president, that's a whole definitional second tier and then you get the folks, it's just bucket list if not now, never. >> the nolo? >> no the yolo. >> i think you're trying to put stink on the former governor of new york by using his middle name elmer. don't sleep on him. what do you think it's going to cost? i keep hearing these numbers, you know that -- >> people keep saying it's $1 billion. >> $1 billion? >> that's what they're saying now. >> because ads are so expensive. >> we're trying so hard not to get into a money in politics conversation. >> i think nothing matters more now. i really do. >> you're right, money sin credibly important. my husband and i absolutely disagree on the roll of money in politics i think if there's transparency and increasingly more and more transparency that money is okay. democratic donors in the 2014 cycle far outspend republicans on hard dollars. >> and there's situational ethics in terms of the outrage, when it's a liberal billionaire, they don't mind so much. that said there are 100 people in this country who drive elections and everyone who is running for president can't wait to sit down with them one-on-one this he don't give a damn about the guy at denny's, the money is running the timing of the cycle. don't kid yourselves. >> it is about the money, but all the super pac money that mitt romney had, didn't win him the election. the voters dollars work you can't buy elections. >> you feel vindicated by the loss of mitt romney last time? >> the integrity of america is absolutely intact and the fact a that we have very expensive elections doesn't undermine democracy. >> that's the perfect note to end on. margaret hoover john avlon, thanks so much. >> voter rate going down money spent on elections, going up. we can debate it on sirius xm. >> hey, i like it come on any time. the terror threat in this country -- >> the 20-year-old ohio man apparently inspired by isis. >> accused of planning an attack on the u.s. capitol. i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. the paris attacks were planned for years with orders coming directly from al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. >> you better believe that there's concern right now. >> i'm going to shoot you. i will shoot you. hands up! >> officer grant morrison sobbing after taking the life of an unarmed man during a traffic stop last april. >> i thought he was going to pull a gun on me. this is "new day," with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota and michaela pereira. good morning, everyone. we're just peeling back the curtain a little and watching how we send people off. yes. like that thanks so much for joining us. we want to tell but the breaking news because an ohio man is in jail this morning for plotting to carry out an isis-inspired attack on the u.s. capital. federal authorities say his plan to surround the building with bombs and then shoot people as they ran for their lives. this 20-year-old was on the fbi's radar for months because of social media posts he made talking about violent jihad. >> we've got the latest for you now. let's get to alexandra field live in cincinnati. what do we know? >> hey there, chris, whatever he may have written online christopher cornell's father says his son wasn't capable of pulling off an attack. he says his son barely left the house, he had only taken a recent interest in islam and he had never even mentioned isis. but when cornell turned up at this gun shop two miles from his house, authorities decided it was time to step in. an ohio man now in custody for allegedly plotting an isis-inspired attack at the u.s. capital. officials say christopher lee cornell was planning to detonate pipe bombs around the building and shoot people as they fled. the 20-year-old came to the fbi's attention several months ago for alarming social media posts, talking about violent jihad. in an unundercover operation, the fbi said cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. a criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the united states. but wanted to wage jihad on his own, writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the islamic state here and plan operations ourselves. is he researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. wednesday, cornell purchased two m-15s and 600 rounds of ammunition from this gun store in cincinnati. before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. the gun store owner, who had been cooperating with authorities, described cornell's demeanor. >> there wasn't really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in something like this. >> his parents, devastated and in shock. >> i'm just heartbroken. i want to give him a big hug and bring him home. because he ain't out to hurt nobody. >> he may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable. and i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. >> john cornell says that his son recently took up an interest in islam. but had never mentioned isis. >> he explained the peaceful side of islam to me you know and he never showed any, any signs of any kind of violence or anything. i mean quiet, shy, good kid. >> cornell is facing some pretty serious charges, but law enforcement sources tell cnn that lawmakers were never in any real danger authorities were closely tracking his every move. cornell will in court tomorrow for a detention hearing. a pretrial hearing will start next week. chris? >> an important distinction, stand raxt authorities say people weren't in danger because they were tracking him. not because he wasn't planning to do damage. thank you for the reporting. we also have the latest on the paris terror attacks, we're learning new information about accomplices that may have aided the terrorists. good morning, john berman. >> developments coming in from all over europe this morning, including word of an arrest in belgium. in the town of charlevoix belgian officials have arrested a man who they say bought a car from hayat boumeddiene, she is in syria. she sold this man in belgium a car. they searched this man's apartment and they found ties some documents that tie that man to the weapons used by amedy coulibaly here in paris. so a possible connection to another suspect in belgium. all that chris, as we're getting a new look at the terrifying moments inside the grocery store where amedy coulibaly killed four people. chilling surveillance images if inside the kosher market in paris capture terrorists amedy coulibaly. his three-hour siege that killed four people. amedy coulibaly can be seen here dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, wearing what appears to be a bulletproof vest. in the aisle, a child's abandoned stroller. lying on the floor, two people he gunned down when he first burst in. the body closest to the cam ray, believed to be that of an employee. he reportedly grabbed one of coulibaly's guns but it jammed he was shot to death. more than an hour into the standoff coulibaly ordered some hostages to disable security cameras in the building. >> i think this person was trained, he was somewhat sophisticated. >> as the investigation continues, a french newspaper acquired a copy of a loan application. coulibaly borrowed around $7,000 back in december. cnn has not independently confirmed the authenticity of these documents. this as another french newspaper, "la parisienne" claims that french authorities have identified an accomplice to coulibaly. police suspect the man may have been responsible for shooting and wounding a jogger in a park south of paris last week. the ammunition used in that attack was the same as that used in one of coulibaly's guns. >> the sort of lone wolf smaller attack gets much more difficult for law enforcement to follow. they're spread out, so many more of them. >> since the terror last week more than 50 judicial proceedings have been opened in france for inciting terrorism and racist or antisemitic comments or actions, many proceedings involve graffiti on mosques. this country remains on high alert as the funerals for the victims killed in the attacks continue. >> u.s. secretary of state john kerry is on his way here to paris. he arrives in a few hours. he will be the highest-level u.s. official to come here since the attacks of course he faced a lot of criticism, along with the president for not being here at the unity rally last sunt sundae. the secretary said his goal when he comes to france later today and tomorrow is to give the people of france chris, a big hug. >> and certainly it is needed john that's for sure. and what's going on there, reverberating back at home in the u.s. in many different ways. alisyn over to you. >> let's talk about it and bring in independent senator from maine, angus king a member of the senate armed services committee and the intelligence committee. senator, thanks for joining us this morning. >> thank you, alisyn. >> let's start with the breaking news this 20-year-old ohio man was arrested for a plot that he said he was going to perpetrate on the u.s. capitol. you and your colleagues were the targets. how seriously do you take a plot like this? well i think tough take it seriously. you can't really tell whether this young man hadden the capability to pull this off. but what you're see something a kind of a continuum from the elaborately planned 9/11 attacks, through what happened in paris and we're talking about all the links between the brothers in paris and coulibaly and aqap in yemen in those kinds of things it was kind of loose coordination some funding. and then you got the lone wolf. and each one has its own characteristics. and each one, they get progressively harder to to predict and prevent. it's really a break, a lot of cooperation between law enforcement, fbi, local law enforcement, sheriffs office local police in cincinnati. that foiled what appears to be at least you know he was buying guns at least appears to be some credible plot. these are very difficult. and the lone wolf is the toughest of all. and i'm afraid that's the world we're in. we're just going to have to be be vigilant. that's that's the answer. there's no simple answer to this alisyn. >> senator, you're just touching on exactly what con found the general public. it's impossible to know whether or not this is just an impressionable oddball who was aspirational, could never really have pulled it off. he was best friends with his pet cat as we've learned. or if this is a lone wolf who then can hold people hostage and kill them in a grocery store. how do you ever figure out which one he was? >> well you know we're going to go through a court proceeding to try to determine that. to some extent. but you're absolutely right. i'm not sure there's a bright-line distinction between an impressionable oddball who has m-15s and is trying to work out how to make pipe bombs. and a cold-blooded jihadist. you know there's, there's a crossover there. how do you categorize the two brothers up in boston at the boston marathon? the point is we live in in dangerous times. on the other hand the, i think i hate to use the term "good news" it's not really good news at all. but for example, the two brothers in france were on the no-fly list they would have had a very hard time getting over here. the guy in cincinnati was caught at an early stage of his planned operation. so it's not like we're defenseless, but it is something that is is going to be a constant kind of concern. and it to me alisyn it goes to a deeper question. that is how do we deal with this radical ideology that's driving young men particularly into this kind of extremism, and, we've got to talk about what we do to deradicalize. for example, these brothers at least one of them they think developed this radical ideology in prison. in yemen. the british are now developing a program to deradicalize or to anti-radicalize their prison system. think that's something, that's the kind of thing we have to think about. but we've got to go deeper than just police fbi, c.i.a. and military. we've got to talk about how do we stop this movement toward radicalization. because otherwise, you know this is going to be a 100-year war. >> not only that, we've also had another conversation happening here on "new day," this week we've had a couple of your colleagues, two senators on who say that we are doing sort of a half-hearted fight against isis. they believe, in the middle east. we've had tom cotton on and john mccain. who say that it's time to get serious about really truly stamping out isis or al qaeda. or whatever extremist group you want to talk about in syria and iraq. and that they believe that we need to actually have more u.s. soldiers on the ground there to do it. what are your thoughts on that? >> well i'm going to be seeing john mccain later today and i know we're going to be talking about this. but you know we've been in the stamping out business for the last 12 or 13 years. and it hasn't worked all that well. i'm just not sure i don't agree. i mean i think part of the problem is the more we we the u.s. and the west are active and particularly with troops on the ground the more it becomes a recruiting tool for the extremists and the more of them that come. you remember the old story, when we were kids about the hide raydra where you cut off one head and two grow back. i support the airstrikes in many ways we've slowed isis if not stopped them in terms of their progress in geography in iraq. but the next step of rooting them out, door to door in mosul, i think it would be a huge mistake to make those u.s. troops. number one, i don't think it would work. number two i think it would backfire. number three, i don't think the american people are ready to undertake that. i'm just i think it would be the wrong, the wrong move. because as i say, it's easy to say something like stamping out. but we found that it's harder. we thought al qaeda was disabled. we've been taking out their leadership all of a sudden here's this plot in france that was at least facilitated by al qaeda, based in yemen. al qaeda springing up in other parts of the world, boko haram down in nye jeeria we're not going to be able to take them out by killing them one at a time. that's not going to work. what is the basis of this ideology and dealing with the true weapons of mass destruction. the real weapons of mass destruction, are unemployed 22-year-olds who fall for this radical ideology and we've got to figure out how to counter that. >> senator angus king thank you so much for your perspective. we're talk to somebody about that very thing coming up later. but right now a look at your headlines. a major shakeup at the secret service, four senior officials have been reassigned following a string of embarrassing security lapses. the agency's interim director says change is necessary. a report last month from an independent panel described the secret service as insular and starved for leadership. five yemeni inmates held at guantanamo bay have been transferred overseas. at least six years after the pentagon cleared them for release. four will go to owe man, one to estonia, that lives 122 prisoners there. the move has createding an anywhere congress. pair of explosions filling a subway station in chile with smoke. officials believe two thieves blew up two atms and fled with cash. this is the second set of explosions to ratdle santiago's subway system in two months. in september police used a home-made bomb injuring 14 people. we're about an hour away from one of the most anticipated events of the year. the announcement of the academy award nominations, who will get the call? we'll take you live to los angeles for the nominations announcement in our 8:30 a.m. half hour. a reminder for to you set your calendars, the 87th academy awards, sunday, february 22nd. are you going to reach in your pockets and do a little wagering? >> no i'm here to talk about wins who doesn't get nominated. >> i haven't seen enough of the movies yet. i'm into it but i haven't seen the movies. >> let's get through today and then we can discuss. >> i sense a lot of hesitation either you're in or out. i'm in. >> i'll be in tomorrow. there is some riveting video of a police officer who breaks down after killing an unarmed man in montana. how do police officers make these split-second decisions? and how do they cope with the consequences? some familiar words in washington immigration showdown. how hard will the new republican congress fight president obama's executive actions? john king takes it on for you, on "inside politics." 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[ gunshots ] >> it only takes seconds, this is a billings police officer making a traffic stop last year. the entire incident recorded on his dash cam. >> what are you doing? why are you moving your hands around so much. you're making me nervous man. >> he's talking to 27-year-old richard ramirez. >> hands up. hands on the [ bleep ]. get your [ bleep ] hands up. i'm going to shoot you. i will shoot you. hands up! >> in less than 30 seconds ramirez lies mortally wounded. >> moments after making the decision do pull the trigger, officer morrison breaks down. ramirez was unarmed. but the officer later said he had no way of knowing. >> i thought he was going to pull a gun on me. in just last week a coroner's jury ruled officer morrison's actions justified. >> >> that's the back story of the situation, you see what's making it so impressive is what the officer officer winds up doing afterward. let's talk about it with a former nypd police officer. thank you for being with us we often go into the justification, they had a coroner's jury they made their decision when you watch this officer, what is it a window into? about police life that we don't often see? >> well a couple of things chris, most important thing to take from your viewers need to take from this is there's always an information asymmetry when it comes to a police stop. what i mean is the people in the car in that car, in any car, they know something the police officer doesn't. they know whether they're armed or unarmed, they know their intentions they also know about the police officer, they know the police officer is armed. but the police officer approaching the car, which i've done many times, doesn't know any of that. so the responsibility is not with the police officer, it's with the people in the car. to put their hands on the steering wheel, turn the interior lights on roll down the windows and let the officer know through that signaling that they have no ill will and no intentions. >> but people put it on the officer, you're the one who is trained, you're the one who gets the qualification in using the weapon. this is your job. you come up there, you're not supposed to be skittish or vulnerable to the kinds of reactions that the remember person would because you're a cop, is that fair? >> no you're not suppose to be skillet skittish but you're not supposed to be shot either. if you're not willing to show me your hands like the office anywhere the scenario there and you've been arrested for armed robbery in the past which is what i got from my view of the video, that says to me why are you not willing to show me your hands? and you're making furtherive movements and gestures i don't want to second-guess him in that scenario. i don't know what i would have done. but the circumstances there certainly lead me to be suspicious of why he's zog what he's doing. >> in too many of these cases we see there's no exchange between the officer and the suspect or victim whatever they become bc in that scenario. that's shooting here there's a lot of dialoguing going on. how does that fact interior the analysis of justification? >> well did says to me that the officer is doing his best to say, show me your hands, show me those danger-presenting objects that are going to potentially manipulate a weapon and he's doing his best to get him to do that. no officer i know chris, or ever met in my 15-plus years in law enforcement was ever even mildly interested in being involved in some kind of a shoot-out this isn't some heroic gesture as you can see by the reaction. >> you're not soldiers you're not trained to kill. police officers are trained to stop. i know you believe that i know that a lot ofofficers say that. two points the first is the humanity. sv different, but when you see the pain the anguish that this guy is going through, i know some of you dismiss that and say what the about the other person's family. you're right, the ramirez family and how they feel they lost someone. there's no winners in this. but is there fear every day? is there pain of outcome because we don't often see because of the blue line or the men involved or whatever. >> >> that's great point, chris. police officers we're not military officers here. we're not trained to kill. they're trained to stop what's happening. this is not a war, it's a police public service. i know a number of people in law enforce. and in the military who have been involved in shootings, fatal and not fatal. i can tell he from speaking to them they were changed people. one in particular the guy was never the same. weigh involved in a nonfatal shooting and the subject survived. but it this isn't the kind of thing you just let go. it's not like having coffee with a friend. et cetera a lie-changing event. >> i have a lot of friends on the job and to a man they always -- and woman -- they always say, i just want to come home. it's easy to think that's exaggerating the point. but when you see things like this it hits home. one bad fact this is not the first time this officer was involved in the shooting who of of someone who wound up not having a weapon. last time it was a b.b. gun. the officer shot that person as well they wound up dieing from their wounds what does that tell you? is that bad luck or training or this particular officer's discretion? >> you know what chris, i don't know it depends, the precinct i was in with the new york city police department was very busy it was a 7 a precincts in east new york brooklyn. there were a number of officers who had been involved in multiple shootings, it was a fact of them being in a busy area so there's a lot that goes into it. it's easy to chalk talk it after the fact. but i really don't know why he was involved. having a b.b. kbungun is a weapon. no one can tell it's a b.b. gun from a distance. >> this is something that just gives us another window into the scenario. dan bongino, thank you for the perspective. this is an evolving discussion we see it way too often. there's a lot that goes into it. what do you think? what is the latest scenario dell but what you perceive as a problem and maybe potential solutions? tweet us you know how to get me @chriscuomo or facebook.com/newday. alisyn? is there a mitt romney backlash? 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sometimes the subjective analysis gets tough. i watched the movie. my wife loved it because it had franco in it. >> he's dreamy. >> i felt like wow this was a lot of fighting and risk over this. >> of course but we i support the right to make offensive movies but i need a little less of that one. let's see how john king feels about it "inside politics" on "new day." good morning, john. >> good morning, alisyn chris and michaela. >> i thought your review of the movie was actually overly kind. >> oh! >> i agree with the first amendment stuff. but i don't know about the james franco thing. dreamy? >> the ladies like him. the ladies like him. >> you can't hate what you don't understand. >> there you go i've been put in my place, discipline accepted. with me this morning to share reporting and insight, nia malika henderson of the "washington post" and john henderson of the washington "journal." the state of the union address is coming up. the president got thumped in the election last year. how much mojo does he have. sit down with working women in baltimore say the federal government should subsidize sick leave. last week he was on the road talking about how the federal government should help states subsidize free community college for two years. with a bigger republican senate and bigger republican house, does the president have a prayer of getting this stuff passed? >> not at all. this is like the christmas list you draw up when you're five years old and you ask for a pony you ask for the dream house, you ask for everything and you don't get anything really. in this case the state of the union, this is the president putting the marker down for his vision but very rarely do things laid out in the union addresses, even though we cover them actually really end up happening. >> he can't be doing it for fun. i mean he thinks these are important things. is there anywhere on those issues in particular where he's going to be able to do business with the republicans? is this more about setting, okay now that you have two branches you own the congress essentially, republicans, i'm going to keep drawing sharp contrasts with you, saying i'm for this you're against me. >> he'll be doing it on his own, executive action federal employees getting benefits he'll be able to do very little with republicans. this is more about his legacy. he's also trying to change the bully pulpit in an interesting way. this sthot going to be a state of the union like we saw with bill clinton, a little less so with george bush with a laundry list he'll try to do more framing and context and forward-looking vision of his party and his legacy. >> the pew poll has the president at 47% approval 48% disapproval. he was way under water all last year he's about at parity. the republicans have more power, maybe the president gets a little leverage. >> should stand up to republicans and say, you hate what you don't understand. >> another issue he'll have to deal with i don't not sure if it's a fight between the republicans and the president or the republicans and the republicans. the house went on record saying the president's executive actions to allow undocumented to stay in the country and not to deport them but to allow them to have a status so they can work. listen to john boehner. mostly a partisan vote some democrats voted with the republicans, a few republicans voted no. listen to john boehner, the house has no choice but to confront the president. >> we do not take this action lightly. but simply there is no alternative. this executive overreach is an affront to the rule of law and to the constitution itself. >> his fight is more with the senate mitch mcconnell is it not? because mitch mcconnell doesn't want to go this far? >> boehner is right in the sense that there was no alternative. he had to do this coming out of the house, this is what folks on the right especially wanted him to do it's going to be hard. and the senate can you imagine republican senators voting to essentially defund the department of homeland security right after we've had all of this news about what's happened over in paris? it's just hard to -- >> i got to push back. this is not a boehner versus mcconnell. this is the establishment wing of the republican party versus the extreme right wing that wants to take the party off the rails. they can't be this anti-immigrant this anti-hispanic with the way the country is going. can you quibble on the policy be opposed to the policy. but to stand up and say it's an affront to the rule of law and the president is taking unconstitutional action. >> and mcconnell will be on the establishment side i think we'll see a lot of republicans. >> the president may be doing the wrong thing, but it's not beyond the rule of law, that's dangerous language. >> one of the republican senators who will have to deal with this was on the road in new hampshire. if you think back old enough to remember ronald reagan once talked about welfare queens he thought there were people bilking the system. listen to rand paul campaigning in new hampshire. the senator gearing up to run for president in 2016 talking about people who he believes are gaming the disability system. >> all of these programs there's always somebody who is deserving. but everybody in this room knows somebody who is gaming the system. what i tell people is if you look like me and you hop out of your truck, you shouldn't be getting a disability check. we all know people who are horrifically disabled and can't work but if you have able-body able-bodied people taking the money, there's not enough money left for the people who are truly disabled. >> i'm sure there are a small percentage of people gaming the disability system and i'm sure there are a majority of people who get the benefits. why is a guy running for president with all the issues we face whether it's taxes and spending medicare and social security whether it's how to balance the budget or not to balance the budget. overseas threats, why are we talking about this? >> this is part of what you've heard from conservatives, this whole idea of takers. you heard mitt romney in 2012 go there with the whole 47%. that's what rand paul is doing there, appealing to a certain set of americans who, you know in some ways are playing grievance politics these are white working-class men and women who feel like there is this subset of a population that are takers and they're taking advantage of the situation, a drain and drag on the system and the budget. >> that's the political reality and democrats have played it up. that's why bill clinton signed a welfare reform law. i think this is less of a dog whistle to african-americans, which is what with welfare queens i think this is actually neighbor versus neighbor. i come from michigan, spent all of december up there. they complain the fact that their neighbors are gaming the system. there are a lot of people who know friends and relatives gaming the system and i think rand paul is connecting with that. >> let's get quickly to the romney backlash. mitt romney said on friday to a group of donors after saying no for months i'm thinking about this and now is reaching out to former staff members, talking to fundraisers, thinking about running a third time for president in 2016. rupert murdoch has something to do with another network, i forget what it's called. he said he had his chance he mishandled it. i thought mitt romney was a terrible candidate. through his newspapers and fox network, has some influence over conservative voters is that the mainstream republican view a terrible candidate? >> in some ways yes. and that was the view last time as well that he is the last guy standing i guess we'll vote for him. you hear people saying he's a decent guy, but he had his chance he's a decent guy, but he didn't run a great campaign last time. but i mean to romney's credit it was a billion dollar campaign. he was able to raise the money. he's one of the only republicans able to do that. >> the question is does romney listen to it he'll have a speech on friday in san diego to the republican national committee. it will be interesting to see if it's just an exploration or if he's all in. ron and nia malika coming in. bill clinton was on seth myers last night. the question for seth myers, make sure when you ask a question like this you get your date exactly right. listen. >> i want too get away from politics for a minute and talk about real estate. do you think you might live in a different house in 2016? >> i hope not, because 2016 is the election year and i don't have any place to move. >> 2017 would have been a more interesting answer. >> aha, very clever. math may not be his strong suit. thanks so much john. the father of the ohio man who allegedly plotted a terror attack on the nation's capital, says he had no idea about his son's plan. how can parents spot warning signs? 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>> this is a very common theme to hear that somebody who seems like the nicest guy, quote-unquote as the father was saying never left the state. so he probably was spending a lot of time online on social network and peer grouping also online. this is how it happens, you lock yourself away. you isolate yourself in a limited and restricted peer group. you come to accept their ideology and you're off. >> but wait lots of kids do that, mubin, but they don't get wrapped up in plots to bomb the u.s. capitol. >> well radicalization is an individual process. every person is going to react to it differently. for example, when we see atrocities taking place around the world, everyone responds to it in a different way. depending on what's happening in your life you will respond to it more intensely than other people. so i'm going to look to see, he probably has family issues this is very common. young people and parents, you add, you start to add clusters of behavior and then you're going to start to see indicators towards towards violent action. >> mubin, i don't know if you had a chance to see and hear the powerful video. the more whose sons planned to travel from chicago to syria and join isis. >> we condemn this violence in the strongest terms and we condemn the brutal tactics of isis and groups like them and we condemn the brainwashing and recruiting the children through the use of social media and the internet. and we have a message for isis for mr. baghdadi, leave our children alone. >> a tearful leave our children alone. is the draw of this this extremism stronger than a mother's love of a parent's love the support of a community? >> well young kids especially even up to 20 especially a kid described as a big momma's boy. they don't listen to their parents. there's a huge disconnect with culture, especially. not just in white america, but in minority communities as well. your first, second generation who are here from where ever. their kids might not be feeling like they belong. they might not be integrating properly. there's usual lay divide between the parent and the children to the point where these groups and these networks of individuals, whether social or in real life they become your new family. it's no different than joining a gang or a cult. >> you talk about the importance of not just finding the terrorists but getting to these vulnerable people. the vulnerable population before they become terrorists or radicalized. and you pointed us to this guide from the university of liverpool. i think we have a full still to show what we're talking about. i want you to walk us through this quickly. level one, concern and consultation. there's something there that is a flag to somebody about behavior of a young person. >> yeah this is not about finding terrorists this is about, it's a vulnerability assessment as to how kids could become vulnerable to recruitment by extremists and so that graph is useful. if you look at the first category consultation that's something that community organizations can really get on. so for example, if the police arrest someone or there's some kind of criminality link to it they can then kind of channel the person to a community organization a religious scholar, a social worker psychologist to try to counsel the person see what's happening in their life. >> when you move on to the next step -- >> intervention and monitor. >> this is where law enforcement and intelligence agencies will start to pick up chatter, social network use. maybe they've been doing surveillance on some individuals and this new kid pops out of the blue. this is where there's more government involvement. and if you look at the third category this is criminality. it's criminal behavior and if such a tool is being used in the community, the issue would be that this is a, where you're basically required to report to authorities. it's no different than in the school where they see that kids are being assaulted or abused. there is a duty to report. those are criminal criminal activities criminal behaviors. and this guy by liverpool was developed like a number of years ago, it has five years of testing. >> field testing we understand. >> yeah. field testing. and the uk is using this a lot. they've had problems with radicalization and young people being radicalized. but again, this is just one of the tools that are out there for parents, especially to use. it's a public document and they're encouraged to use it. >> mubin shaikh thank you for helping us begin to understand the process that can happen to a young person becoming radicalized. we'll talk to you about it again, i'm sure. stick around everyone we'ring about to have a live interview with two mountain climbers who have just done something no one else ever has. they'll be with us, live. hi, guys. so you're looking for a loan? 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>> i just want to give him a big hug and bring him home. >> chilling surveillance inside the kosher market. >> coming up right now in hollywood to hear the nominations. among the expected best picture nominee, "boy mood." >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo, alisyn camerota. >> 20-year-old ohio man has been captured a man who was allegedly about bomb the capitol. he was going to kill people he considered enemies. >> the suspect got the fbi's attention after posts on social media promoting jihad. he was heavily armed and ready to pull off the deadly attack. let's get right to alexandra field in cincinnati tracking the latest developments for us. >> reporter: authorities had been watching him for months but they finally arrested christopher cornell two miles away from his house outside of the gun shop. he bought two weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition the final piece of evidence in their investigation which led them to believe he was serious about planning an attack. but his parents say this is a kid who didn't have the capability or the resources to pull off an attack. an ohio man now in custody for allegedly plotting an isis inspired attack at the u.s. capitol. officials say christopher lee cornell was planning to detonate pipe bombs around the building and then shoot people as they fled. the 20-year-old came to the fbi's attention several months ago for alarming social media posts talking about violent jihad. in an undercover operation the fbi says cornell told an informant he had contacts overseas that he had aligned himself with isis and believed lawmakers were his enemy. a criminal complaint says cornell did not think he would receive authorization to conduct a terrorist attack in the united states but wanted to wage jihad on his own writing, i believe we should meet up and make our own group in alliance with the islamic state here and plan operations ourselves. he had researched the targeted government buildings and the construction of pipe bombs. wednesday cornell purchased two m-15s and 600 rounds of ammunition from this gun store in cincinnati before fbi agents arrested him in the parking lot. wkrc obtained this image of his arrest from a customer inside a nearby store. the gun store owner who had been cooperating with authorities described cornell's demeanor. >> there wasn't really anything about him that would have suggested he was involved in something like this. >> reporter: his parents, devastated and in shock. >> i'm just heart broken. just want to give him a big hug and bring him home because he ain't out to hurt nobody. >> he may have lost his way somewhere in there, but i believe he was really vulnerable and i believe he was coerced in a lot of ways. >> reporter: john cornell says that his son recently took up an interest in islam but had never mentioned isis. >> he explained the peaceful side of islam to me and he never showed any, any signs of any -- any kind of violence or anything. i mean quiet, shy, good kid. >> reporter: attempted killing of a u.s. officer, that is one of the charges cornell faces. he will be in court for the first time tomorrow. what is really key in this case here in identifying the suspect was the help the informant gave the authorities. that's why they were able to watch him for months and law enforcement tell cnn that lawmakers were never in fact in any imminent danger. >> thank you for the reporting. we have new information about the terrorists who murdered four people inside a kosher grocery store last saturday. let's get to john berman with more. john what do we know? >> reporter: good morning, chris. yes, a new development. a new development that turns our eyes towards spain, specifically madrid. cnn has confirmed from spanish security officials that amedy coulibaly, the man who killed four people in the kosher market was in madrid about a week before the attack. he drove there with his girlfriend or partner, hayat boumeddiene. they arrived in madrid on december 31st. they left on january 2nd. he coulibaly came back to paris. she, hayat boumeddiene went on to istanbul. from there she is believed to have headed to syria. there is a third person with them in madrid say the spanish officials. what is unclear is if that person is a person seen in the video in the is stand bool airport with hayat boumeddiene. or is it amedy coulibaly. another key question according to someone close to the security situation here in paris told me is why madrid? is it possible they just wanted one last trip to a nice city before he was heading to his almost certain death in some kind of terror attack or was it to connect with perhaps more people involved in a terror cell in that city? madrid like so many cities across europe chris, does have people who have returned from the battles in syria and the middle east. there could be people there whom they met with. there have been several people, according to this one guy i talked to who said that many people have returned from the middle east very recently to madrid. so the possibility of meetings there something they are looking into very closely right now. >> all right, john. again, it's not about the size of this connection, what was done it's how many it took to get this done. that's what obviously is occupying the authorities. thank you for staying on top of it my friend. we'll be back to you later in the show. alisyn. chris, here to weigh in on the terror investigation and to speak about what the president will focus on is valerie jarrett. good morning, ms. jared. >> good morning, alisyn. how are you? >> i'm well. let's talk about all of the breaking news we've been hearing this morning and in the days prior. first, let's start with this foiled plot against the u.s. capitol, this 20-year-old ohio man has been arrested as he tried to buy guns. he said he wanted to attack the capitol and to kill congressmen and women. and when you couple that with everything that's been happening in paris and the massacres there, i can imagine it must be an anxious time inside the white house. tell us the conversations you're having. >> well of course it is. first of all, i want to compliment the fbi and all the local law enforcement teams that worked so vigilantly to capture this person. so yes, we have to be on high alert, cooperate and be aware of what's going on around you. fortunately this issue resolved itself very well thanks to great efforts of law enforcement. >> of course the investigation into what happened in paris and the massacres there continues. we know the secretary of state, john kerry, has arrived in paris. he says he wants to share a big hug with the french people. do you and president obama regret not sending someone to paris sooner? >> well, i think as we said certainly we would have liked to have participated in the parade. i remind you that attorney general holder was in paris for a very important meeting together with his colleagues from around europe and around the world to take a look at what we can do to make sure we're cooperating fully. i think we certainly got the substance right but it would have been great to participate in the parade and we're delighted secretary kerry was there now. >> was there consideration to have eric holder participate in the unity march? >> i'm not aware of that. he had pressing issues to get back. he dropped everything to fly over there at the invitation of the french to participate in the meeting. i don't know the facts about whether or not he was asked to stay. >> let's talk about the big domestic issues. one big thing on the front of everyone's plate now is immigration. >> yes. >> just yesterday house speaker john boehner came out and basically called out the president for what he considered over reach with executive action. let me play for you what john boehner said about the president yesterday. >> to think that the president of the united states actually studied constitutional law is one thing. he doesn't just teach or learn constitutional law, he taught it as well but now his actions suggest that he's forgotten what these words even mean. enough is enough. >> john boehner says enough is enough with executive action. what's your response? >> well first of all, yes, the president was a constitutional law scholar. no he hasn't forgotten a thing. he is confident based on counsel that he's received from the justice department as well that what he did is well within his legal authority, very well within his legal authority. i remind you that the senate over 2 1/2 years ago passed a bill on comprehensive immigration reform and we waited and waited and waited for the house to take action. rather than trying to reverse what the president did which will strengthen our immigration system keep america safe why not pass a bill? pass their own bill. if they're uncomfortable with the executive actions, then they should take action themselves and we would love for them to do that and more importantly the american people have been waiting for them to take action. so the president believes let's not deport families and break up families let's focus on felons. let's strengthen our border. let's make sure we hold people accountable. let's sponsor a bill to help people get right with the law, pay taxes and want to be members of our society. we've always been a nation of laws and a nation of immigrants. we can do that. the senate had demonstrated that it's possible in a bipartisan basis so let's encourage this new congress to do the same. let's get this settled on a comprehensive basis once and for all. >> ms. jarrett, let's talk about what you and the president will be focused on specifically today, and that is how to extent sick leave for working families. >> it's interesting. i'll give you some statistics. all parents work in 60% of families. >> that's a bhig change since 1965 when it was only 40%. fewer than 60% of working adults had any sick leave. we are finding people are responsible for their parents and elder care is important. they want to make sure for workers and families we are providing the kind of benefits that recognize the fact that we don't just work. he's supporting the healthy parents act. it provides seven sick days to every american. 40 million americans don't have a single day off with pay whether they're sick their child's sick or their parents are sick. we want to encourage paid leave. so the federal government is contemplating now a policy let's not wait for them. so the president is encouraging states and cities across our country to pass laws that would provide both sick time paid as well as family leave paid and he's also signing a presidential memorandum that would provide federal employees with the ability to advance their sick time and take it for paid leave for six weeks and calling on congress to pass a paid leave policy for federal workers as well. and the reason why behind all of this it's not just good for workers but it's good for the economy. study after study shows that employers who provide these benefits are more productive and more profitable whether it's a small business a large business it doesn't matter. >> do you anticipate any push back from congress on the president's signing the presidential memorandum on this initiative? >> well, i think clearly it's well within his authority to sign the presidential memorandum. i think what we would really call on them is to recognize the fact that with these changing demographics in the workplace, if our u.s. employers want to be globally competitive, they have to offer the kind of benefits that allow them to compete for, to attract and retain the best talent. there's a range of issues that we've been focusing on that grew out of the working family summit that the president hosted earlier in the summer so it's workplace flexibility, equal pay, increasing the minimum wage child care and paid sick leave and paid sick time. these are all important benefits to have a productive work force. >> valerie jarrett, senior advisor to president obama. thanks so much for taking time for "new day." >> you're welcome. thank you, have a great day. >> let's get over to michaela. headlines, washington post journalist retained will stand trial. it's unclear what jason ressin has been charged with. the pope speaking out today about those terror attacks in france telling journalists aboard a flight to manila there are limitations to free speech. he said people should not provoke nor insult other people's faith. the pontiff is on a five day tour of the philippines. quite a changing of the guard. they're being reassigned that follows a series of embarrassment and security lapses. they say change is necessary. a report by a special investigative panel described the secret service as quote, starved for leadership. you know that game hungry hungry hippo? >> sure. >> have you heard of the hungry angry hippo? >> yup. >> a tour guide in zambia sped up his boat just in time because this unbelievably fast hippo charged towards it. incredibly it surfaced near feet from the boat. we have to run the video again. it's going to come here. wait for it. oh, my goodness. >> it was hiding under there. >> the guide says normally hippos are not aggressive unless they have babies and the babies are with them or they feel threatened. he says he has been chased on more than one occasion. i was thinking about how i like to be on the hudson river. i'm glad there's no hippos. >> i think there's a lot of data. they kill more people than any other animal. >> you, look. >> hippos they get a false good rap. they have a nice smile. >> yeah. >> pandas too. he thinks that -- >> you know what jump in a cage with a panda and see what happens. >> let us know what you think about the cute panda or dangerous. meanwhile, we keep hearing that the economy is booming. why aren't wages climbing? 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let's discuss with somebody who knows. larry summers, former treasury secretary under president clinton and former director of the national economic council under president obama. mr. summers, mr. secretary, thank you for joining us. you on a trans atlantic board that you chair along with the ex-checker in the british parliament ed ball. it's called the exclusive prosperity commission. you have a new report coming out with recommendations of how to help reduce growing income inequality spurring middle class growth. let's put your suggestions, sir, into context with where we see the problems. for example, valley jarrett was just on "new day." we know her importance to the president. she cites the problem very well without right now offering from the administration a solution to that problem. she says all parents now work in 60% of families but they are not seeing their wages grow. larry, why is that? >> you know, chris, these problems were not made in a month or a year or even in a decade and they're not going to get solved overnight, but you look at some countries like australia and canada that have seen patterns of wage increases for middle income families who live in the same world of globalization and technology that we do so there's no reason for fatalism. this is an issue that can and i believe will be addressed. >> give -- please. so give me the big fix because what are the impressive numbers we see? unemployment's going down but not under employment. people are working harder. they're taking temporary jobs. more hours, less pay. how do you fix it? >> chris, let's not forget that we are at a very different place than we were five years ago. we have a long way to go but we are at a very different place than we were five years ago. what we need to do now is address the long standing structural issues. let me give you some examples. >> please. >> we live in a moment where we can borrow money as a country for 1.8% and where we've got a massive construction unemployment rate. there is no reason why that should not be the moment when we fix kennedy airport, when we fix tens of thousands of schools across the country where the paint is chipping off the walls. our infrastructure investment rate has never been lower and the need has never been greater. >> why? >> infrastructure investment puts people to work. it generates a further multiplier effect as the people who are put to work spend money. it makes our economy function more efficiently. >> so why isn't it happening? >> we're in a just in time economy. we need a transportation infrastructure that can move things efficiently, and it takes a burden off my children's generation because if we do the necessary things like fixing kennedy airport now, that burden won't be placed on their generation when the time comes. >> so what's the solution larry? why isn't it happening? is it because it's perceived as government spending? why isn't it happening if it's such an obvious solution? >> i think it's -- i think there's a perception on some people's part that anything the government does is waste. i don't think the hoover dam was waste. i don't think the interstate highway system was waste. i don't think the basic research that led to the internet was waste. of course we've had important reforms that control earmarks that stop bridges to nowhere, that discipline the congressional process. of course we need to do what was done during the recovery act, which is put the progress of every project on the internet so people can follow it every week or month. transparency is a huge antedote to incompetence and inefficiency. infrastructure is one piece. >> okay. >> a second piece is we've got to empower work. we can't treat work jersers as just another commodity subject to market forces. the minimum wage is way lower than it was when ronald regan was president and there was nothing bad happening to employment because of the minimum wage when he was president. we have allowed the ability of unions to organize workers to completely erode in this country. valerie is right. in fact if you give the right kinds of protections that let people take time offer when they have a pressing family -- >> right. >> -- need more people take jobs more people enter the labor force, you get more workers and that ultimately increases -- >> right. >> -- the scale of the economy. >> but, larry -- >> yeah. >> -- here's the concern with that. right now minimum wage is largely going to be tied with what the states want to do right? that's going to be a hard thing to create one pattern with but you also have this fundamental pattern of what is allowed to be rewarded in your economy. you're saying value workers, but we've moved completely the opposite way. look at the disparate betweenity between wall street and main street. look at jampie dimon, even after current conditions no one went to jail he still says banks are under assault. in the old days you dealt with one reg guulateorregulator. they're not lending to anybody they don't want to. every business gets reward for cutting its labor costs. how do you change this dynamic where the banks are complaining, businesses are complaining and they get what they want which almost always means that the worker loses? >> there's no single step there. i'll give you an example of one thing that we recommend in the report. people get bonuses in the financial sector. that's probably okay but they shouldn't get the whole bonus this year. a bunch of it should be held aside and invested for them and if it turns out they did something wrong or if it turns out that one of their investments goes very wrong, then that bonus should be clawed back. that would give them a stake in not just what happens this year but in the longer term health of their institutions. that is the kind of thing that regulators need to push and pursue. of course we need to avoid duplication. of course there's no reason to be punitive for the sake of being punitive. look, the country has been through the ringer on this financial crisis and part of the reason it was through the ringer on this financial crisis was that there wasn't enough regulation in advance and that the regulators weren't using the authorities they had. so the pendulum is shifting towards more regulation and i think that's appropriate. that doesn't mean that it doesn't need to be monitored very carefully, but we do need to be prepared to hold people responsible. we do need to make sure that our corp rans governance institutions are focused on the long term health of companies and not just on share prices in the next day and the next month. >> larry, it's great in theory. we're certainly now seeing it play out in practice. they have their new report out. we encourage people to look at it and judge for themselves. larry summers, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. and the nominees are -- in a matter of minutes we'll find out who was nominated for a 2015 academy award. we'll go live to los angeles for the big announcement. i like to think of myself as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national. i can bypass the counter and go straight to my car. and i don't have to talk to any humans, unless i want to. and i don't. and national lets me choose any car in the aisle. control. it's so, what's the word?... sexy. go national. go like a pro. i've smoked a lot and quit a lot but ended up nowhere. now...i use this. the nicoderm cq patch with unique extended release technology helps prevent the urge to smoke all day. i want this time to be my last time. that's why i choose nicoderm cq. ♪so nice, so nice♪ ♪sweet, sweet st. thomas nice♪ ♪so nice, so nice♪ ♪st. croix full of pure vibes♪ ♪so nice, so nice♪ ♪st. john a real paradise♪ ♪so nice, so nice♪ ♪proud to be from the virgin islands♪ ♪and the whole place nice♪ to experience your virgin islands "nice", book one of our packages today. well, a mortgage shouldn't be a problem your credit is in pretty good shape. >>pretty good? 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>> because they've had to settle mortgage fraud allegations, they've had to settle all kinds -- oh, my gosh. the number of different investigations are mind blowing. jpmorgan chase jamie dimon said they're under assault from regulators on all fronts. the oscar nominations are about to be unveiled. we will have them for you live right after this quick break. over $98 million dollars and creating over 2100 jobs. from long island to all across upstate new york, more businesses are coming to new york. they are paying no property taxes no corporate taxes no sales taxes. and with over 300 locations, and 3.7 million square feet available, there's a place that's right for your business. see if startup-ny can work for you. go to startup.ny.gov. in a race, it's about getting to the finish line. in life, it's how you get there that matters most. like when i found out i had a blood clot in my leg. my doctor said that it could travel to my lungs and become an even bigger problem. so he talked to me about xarelto®. >>xarelto® is the first oral prescription blood thinner proven to treat and help prevent dvt and pe that doesn't require regular blood monitoring or changes to your diet. for a prior dvt i took warfarin, which required routine blood testing and dietary restrictions. not this time. while i was taking xarelto®, i still had to stop racing, but i didn't have to deal with that blood monitoring routine. >>don't stop taking xarelto®, rivaroxaban, unless your doctor tells you to. while taking xarelto®, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. xarelto® can cause serious bleeding, and in rare cases, may be fatal. get help right away if you develop unexpected bleeding, unusual bruising, or tingling. if you have had spinal anesthesia while on xarelto®, watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle related signs or symptoms. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. tell your doctor before all planned medical or dental procedures. before starting xarelto® tell your doctor about any conditions such as kidney, liver, or bleeding problems. xarelto® is proven to reduce the risk of dvt and pe, with no regular blood monitoring and no known dietary restrictions. treatment with xarelto® was the right move for me. ask your doctor about xarelto® today. big, big morning in hollywood. the 258th academy award nominations are underway right now. for the first time ever all 24 categories are being announced live in a two-part news conference. directors alfonso curaron and j.j.abrams have announced some. then chris pine and cheryl boone isaacs will unveil the rest. best actor, best picture. we'll bring down all the nominations with the cnn entertainment commentator and senior west coast editor of "vanity fair." 20 seconds until it happens. any big predictions before that happens? >> it's really exciting this year because i think we're going to get some first-timers coming into the oscar race. there's a possibility for jennifer aniston to get nominated. also on the guy side you have benedict cumberbatch. >> i'm going to interrupt you. let's go to beverly hills to listen to the nominations live. >> academy president cheryl boone isaacs and chris pine. >> welcome. what an exciting morning. thank you, alfonso and j.j. for kicking it all off. chris, let's continue. for performance by an actor in a supporting role the nominees are robert duval in "the judge." ethan hawk in "boyhood." edward norton in "bird man." or the unpicks pekted virtue of ignorance. "fox catcher." ." and j.k. simmons in "whiplash." >> for performance by an actress in the supporting role we have patricia arquette in boy hood laura dern in wild keira knightley in the imitation game, emma stone in bird man or the unexpected virtue of ignorance and meryl streep in "into the woods." >> for achievement in make cup and hair makeup and hair styling, bill core so he and dennis lydiere for "fox catcher." frances han nonand mark culier for "the grand budapest hotel." and elizabeth and david white for the guardians of the galaxy. >> for achievement in costume design the nominees are -- >> we're going to jump in right now as they carry on with these other announcements. we have some news here that we'll hash out with krista smith who joins me again. we heard the best supporting actor and best supporting actress, robert duval, ethan hawke, mark ruffalo, j.k. simmons. these are all very familiar names in hollywood. >> yes, they are. this was pretty much set from a while ago. there's no surprises really in this category. mark ruffalo in "foxcatcher." j.k. simons this was a big deal for him. a small movie out of sundance. "whiplash," it's a big moment for him. obviously robert -- go ahead, michaela. >> interesting to think of all the work that he's done in television finally getting this big, big nod not only from the globes but the academy here. >> yeah i think there's two stories here it's really j.k. and robert duval who's in his 80s who has been acting for what is it five decades at such a high level. i think he's so beloved in this community. it's nice to see him get that nod. >> on the actress side patricia arquette keira knightley, meryl streep some people not loving her. >> it wouldn't be the oscars if meryl streep wasn't nominated. i don't even know how many at this poinl. is it 19 or 20? >> we've lost count. >> yeah. but it's great for laura dern. that's kind of a surprise. she was on the cusp maybe was she going to get in or not for residentialce reese witherspoon's "wild." >> i was thinking of the tremendous career emma stone is having and to see her nominated for her work is fantastic. >> yeah i loved "birdman" and emma stone did something that no one has seen her do before. completely different departure for her and she just nailed it. also ed norton was fantastic. i loved "birdman" and i think we're going to see michael keaton get a best actor nomination as well. >> we have best actor, best actress of course best picture. a lot of people have been wondering. there's been a great slate of films this year. some of the films that a lot of people haven't had a chance to see. some films that have been out for a while. i'm curious what your thoughts are on the contenders for best picture ahead. >> well i'm really curious to see if "unbroken" gets a nomination. obviously people really like it. it's out there. people are going to see it but i haven't seen her get any love yet from any of the other -- the gilds. you haven't seen it mentioned a lot. "selma" it seems odd to me it hasn't gotten some of the awards earlier on. i'll be curious. >> i'm going to jump in once again because we're about to make more announcements. actress in a leading role let's take a listen. >> the nominees are marion cotierre in two days one night. if he lis sit at this jones in the theory of everything. julian morin, "still alice." rosamyn pike in "gone girl" and reese witherspoon in "wild." >> for performance by actor in a leading role the nominees are steve corrow in "fox catcher," bradley cooper in american sniper. the imitation game. michael keaton in bird man or the unexpected virtue of ignorance and eddie redmain in "the theory of everything." >> and, finally, we are pleased to announce the film's selected as the best picture nominees. they are "american sniper." clint eastwood robert lorenz andrew lazar, bradley cooper and peter morgan producers. "birdman or the unexpected virtue of ignorance." john lescher and james w.scotchapol producers. "boy hood." richard link leer and kathleen sutherland producers. "the grand budapest hotel" wes anderson steven rales and jeremy dawson producers. "the imitation game" nora grossman edu ostraskowsky. "selma" kristina colson oprah winfreyde winfrey, d.d. gardner. "the theory of everything" tim bev vin, eric fellner, lisa bruce and anthony mccartin producers and "whiplash" jason blum helen esterbrook and david lancaster, producers. >> for a complete list of all the nominations please visit oscar.com. the president of the academy and chris pine talking about the nominations. we have so much to go through. some great, great news here. we're going to discuss it in a moment with krista smith and discuss our oscar nominations. >> announcer: the nominees is brought to you by the all new volkswagen gulf family 2015 mow the tore trend car of the year. isn't it time for german engineering? why did a panel of 11 automotive experts... ... name the volkswagen golf motor trend's 2015 car of the year? we'll give you four good reasons the all-new volkswagen golf starting at $17,995. there's an award winning golf for everyone. you get sick you can't breathe through your nose... suddenly... you're a mouthbreather. well, put on a breathe right strip and instantly open your nose up to 38% more than cold medicines alone so you can breathe and sleep shut your mouth and sleep right. breathe right. just moments ago at the samuel goldwyn theater in beverly hills, we heard the golden globes nominee. guess who the cat dragged in? nischelle turner cnn contributor. >> guess who's back. >> and entertainment tonight host. ladies so many things to crunch through. nischelle, you were there in the room. "grand budapest hotel" and "birdman" nine nominations each. it's a great movie. it really is but some people think, wow, why do you love it? it's funny, quirky all things that the academy loves. i'm not surprised by the amount of nominations for it or "bird man" because "bird man" is making a lot of love. they see themselves in michael keaton. he's trying to get his fame and his glory back. they love this movie. i will tell you though a couple of things jumped out at me right away. yes, those movies got a lot of nominations but i was surprised by the amount of love for "american sniper" it didn't through the rest of the award season but today the academy gave it a lot of love. bradley cooper seemingly knocking david oyeleloyo out of the race. he didn't get a nomination for his role as dr. martin luther king jr. in "selma." jennifer not getting a nomination for kate. it seems marianne cotillard. it's been an interesting morning but a good morning. >> this is the importance of deciding academy voters and the foreign press association who decides the globes. >> right. the foreign press, i think that's basically made up of about 90 journalists that come together and decide what they want. the academy, you have everybody, all the actors are voting for the other actors. so it's like nischelle was saying you look at these movies. they are really well performed like "birdman" and also the love for "american sniper," "grand budapest hotel." actors love actors. the marianne cotillard came out of nowhere. they thought it was going to go to amy adams or jennifer aniston. she's a big surprise on that one. >> nischelle, i'm all about who you two think is going to win here. but i want to ask about "unbroken." >> yes. >> i think that's the most phenomenal survival story i've ever read key word read. has not gotten the nod anywhere? >> a little of both chris. i'm surprised, too. in the early nominations this morning we did see unbroken get nominated in some of the lesser categories. i thought could this be a trend for the movie in some of the bigger categories. we did not see that with directing. we did not see it with best picture. the academy can name up to ten movies for best picture. i thought maybe they would squeeze "unbroken" in there. you can put ten pictures they only put nine. we did not see that there. yes, it is a surprise for me. as well as no nomination for "gone girl." i thought that would get a nomination as well. there have been some things to chew on this morning here. this is what we love about this time because it sparks the conversation and we talk about it all the way to february 22nd until the awards. >> and, nischelle, i want to get back to jennifer aniston for a second. she's been on a bit of a movie blitz for her movie "kate." and for her not to get any award, is that a surprise? >> a bit of a surprise because she has definitely been campaigning for this. a lot of times, i remember last year we were talking, chris, a lot about "wolf of wall street" and how leonardo dicaprio did not like to campaign to get a nomination. jennifer aniston says forget that i am campaigning. she felt like it was her signature role she did a great job and she felt like she deserved a nomination. i think that was definitely a bit of a surprise. the folks at american sniper did a late oscar push. they've been on a blitz. i interviewed bradley cooper on monday morning and sienna miller for this movie. they are everywhere talking about this because it took him two years to get this movie made and if you know chris kyle's story, i mean it is an amazing story. talk about a survival story with "unbroken" this is a survival story. a man who survived four tours of duty coming home to be murdered by a veteran he was trying to help. it's a wonderful story. bradley cooper is great in it. he really is. >> chris at ta krista i want to go back to the best picture. you have the theory of everything talking about the tremendous life of stephen hawking. "the grand budapest hotel," we love that. but "boyhood," this film took 12 years to make. you knew that academy members had to vote for a project that was this i don't know robust. >> well of course. it's so ambitious to do this just that you're going to hire a 6-year-old actor and assume that you're going to be able to be with him for the next 12 years and that he would actually stick with the project. >> yeah. >> as with ethan hawke and patricia arquette. this is a tremendous nomination. richard linkletter he's a low key guy. everyone is rooting for him. the movie is so moving. >> it is. it's a great film. >> i loved it. >> i have to cut you off, ladies. we could talk about this all day. we know that the oscars are happening. our thanks to nischelle turner and krista smith for crunching through all of this. we want to hear from you at home. let us know what you think on social media. big day in hollywood. a lot of excited folks in hollywood. you got that bit of news but there's a lot going on in the world. let's get you to the "newsroom" with carol costello right after a little break. nutes the american red cross responds to a home fire or other emergency. you can help. please donate now. ♪ ♪ happening now in the "newsroom," attack arrest. >> an ohio man now in custody for allegedly plotting an isis-inspired attack at the u.s. capitol. >> a clear picture emerging this morning of christopher cornell close to his parents playing video games. his best friend a kitty cat. his father this morning saying his son was entrapped. >> he was definitely set up. >> forced resignations. >> the agency was, quote, starved for leadership. >> a secret service shakeup. five now out after the white house fence jumper and leadership blunders abound. is this

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