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Shaming their sons name. Well hear from them coming up, but heres a look at everything that happened overnight. We pray a blessing over here. Overnight in ferguson impassioned prayer, clergy and police hand in hand. God bless you. God bless you. Protesters now peace marchers lining the street. As others pause in solemn reflection, leaving roses as part of a makeshift memorial for Michael Brown jr. These sounds of calm now set the scene here in ferguson as Law Enforcement begins to pull back. Missouris governor ordering the National Guard to gradually draw down. As we see the folks getting calmer, fewer arrests, fewer problems here, that mission, were going to draw down off that, we dont need the same force strength. This as new information clarifies reports about officer Darren Wilsons condition after the shooting. Cnn was told officer wilson had a swollen face not a fractured eye socket and a new eyewitness Michael Brady said he saw the beginning of the tussle through his apartment window, and it looks like officer wilson may have gotten hit. Did you ever see mike brown do a motion where he was going to hit this cop . That maybe was going to happen. That may be why the tussle was going on. Meanwhile, new details about dorion johnson and the eyewitness to the shooting. According to police documents johnson was arrested in 2011 for theft and making a false report to police. Now as peaceful memorials take the streets where violent clashes once broke out, captain ron johnson commend the community for another night of calm, a coloring book box of crayons and sock pocket on display where handguns and molotov cocktails set just a few days ago. This is what defines a community. This is truly the community of ferguson is what we see on this table today. Three big moments. What happened at the car . Was Michael Brown jr. Running away when the firing started from the officer, and what was the ultimate thing that led the officer to take his life . Michael brady, the witness that you were hearing in this piece is key on this. Well go over that later in the show so stick by for that. Theres also new questions emerging about the key witness to the shooting in the situation, and that is the friend who was with him. His name is dorion johnson. Now his past has been called into question because the man who says he was shocked by Michael Brown jr. s attempt to steal from a show was busted in 2011 for theft and making a false report to police. In fact, theres a warrant for his arrest right now in jefferson city, missouri, not only that, but the medical examiners findings may challenge some of johnsons story, that brown was running away with his hands up when the police opened fire, so how much does any of this hurt his credibility if this goes to trial . We took the questions to johnsons attorneys. Did you know anything about your clients criminal background before today . You know, 9 clients criminal background is really a red herring here. This is a case where you have two innocent unarmed Citizens Walking down the street who eventually had to flee for their lives unarmed with their hand in the air. Criminal background or not everyone is entitled to constitutional protection. This Police Officer cannot be judge, jury and execution, criminal, a student, honor roll, whatever, the point is you cant gun down innocent person. Understood, credibility, especially key, especially in assessing testimony. When they hear about the criminal background and type of crimes involved does it hurt your clients credibility . Its something he took into consideration. He met with the fbi, the prosecutors office, the representative and detective and at that time over a week ago he laid out his whole life to them. They asked him about his criminal background, the matter he had a warrant out against them and talked to them at length and in detail. If you are counsel and this case goes to trial and your client comes up and takes the stand and says what his testimony is about lets start with the robbery. He had no idea what was going on of he doesnt know why mike brown did what he did and oppose counsel said you had no idea, havent you been charged with a larceny before . Havent you been charged with making false statements to the police before, isnt that very damaging . Not at all. His credibility in this case has nothing to do with what hes been charged with in the past. It has to do what he saw here, seeing his friend get murdered in cold blood by a Police Officer. You would have to be naive, counsel, to think that this wont try to be used against your client out here but also in a court of law. And since you open the door lets go on in that room. When character happens, if you open the door to saying they have good character then they attack you with exactly Something Like this. Lets open the door and come into the room. What did he do . What is it that he was charged with . Hes with a group of guys that went into an Apartment Building and while they were there somebody grabbed up a few pieces of mail. Went to the ymca to work out a little bit. Somebody report that had they took the mail. The officer comes to the place where they are, he says whats going on here and they wind up charging him with taking a piece of mail and then they ask him, well, who are you, they have already two pieces of his i. D. , they say are you dorion johnson and they say, no, charge him with making a false statement. All of that is going to come out, too, and well see what the jury thinks about that. But to do devils advocate, you know why im asking you. I hear all of it and accept all of it and as opposing counsel they will say the kid is a liar. I cant believe what hes saying here. Hes just saying whats convenient. What does that mean . What it means is this. In the jury system, and, unfortunately, thats whats happened in this process. If we have we have two young man chased after to be hunted down by a Police Officer, one of them murdered in the street and this becomes about their past or this becomes about what happens at a store. None of this is what it should be about, and thats exactly what i would tell any oppose counsel who wanted to bring up these things. I would say, of course, you want to distract from the truth because the truth is two innocent young men were fleeing for their lives when one of them got gunned down right there in the street for no reason at all. Now his past certainly doesnt justify that. Being in the store picking up a few cigars even if that happened doesnt justify that. Nothing justifies, that and that is what i would say to anyone who tries to make this about a past or character or reputation. Lets make it about justice. Lets make it about the truth. Fair statement, counsel. Did the authorities when he went and did the interviews, they had access to what his record was . They not only had access to it they talked to him at length about it. They knew about it. Had an opportunity to ask him whatever it is they wanted to know about it. They wanted to know what happened. They were fine with it. They were fine with it. They understood it and moved on to the next issues. And they still offered him the opportunity to not be charged after he gave their story meaning they must have found some credibility to it. Made the disclosure at the opening of the meeting and at the end of the meeting he was designated as a federal witness. And you believe they had every ability to know about what were discussing right now and could have made a different judgment if we saw fit. I disclosed that matter in detail to the county prosecutor mcculloch two days before, and he said that was not of his concern. The people who needed to know about the past of your client knew in advance. Absolutely. Hes not hiding anything. He hasnt hidden anything from anyone. He has nothing to hide. He and Michael Brown were innocent victims here, and so the fact that whoever the powers might be want to make this about something other than what happened by bringing up the past, as you put and as the former mayor put, when in fact that was disclosed to the right people, never hidden, never shied away from, i think underscores the fact that we should not be focusing on their past. What we should be focusing on is what happened in this street. And, again, to the speculation that there have been story changes, that the client has not been consistent with what he said about the matter, what do you want to say on record about how strong a story his stood up over time and what the reaction to it. The story at its core is not changed. And what the witnesses saw, two men were fleeing unarmed down the street when a Police Officer started shooting and walked over to Michael Brown and as he was on the ground dying when the Police Officers continued to shoot into him. Thats undisputed. That hasnt changed and thats not inconsistent. The bottom line is legally Michael Brown and dorion johnson come into this situation with this Police Officer clean in terms of who they are. Its all about what happens in the moment, kate. However, at trial when you assess testimony credibility is key in terms of how believable somebody is, but you do have to remember that the story that dorion johnson has told doesnt exist in a vacuum. Theres so many other eyewitnesses and theres a lot of corroboration involved, but its certainly going to make the investigation more challenging. Still is shocking, chris, that the attorney general said that the fbi has conducted hundreds of interviews already, at least for the part of their investigation so thats exactly to your point of all of the eyewitnesses that are going to be interviewed as part of this process. Well get back to chris on the ground in missouri in just a moment. We also want to look at this, a startling warning from the pentagon about the terror group isis. Secretary of defense chuck hagel saying the u. S. Needs to take a cold steely hard look at isis and get ready, days after american james foley was beheaded by the militants, and as u. S. Air strikes on isis targets continue in iraq. The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff warns defeating the terror group wont be possible unless its presence in syria is also addressed, a serious statement coming from Martin Dempsey. Barbara starr has much more for us from the pentagon. Reporter good morning, kate. The question is could isis come to the United States and attack here in the pentagon isnt ruling anything out. As isis continues its murdering rampage, alarming words from the u. S. Secretary of defense about the threat the group poses to americans. Oh, this is beyond anything that weve seen, so we must prepare for everything, and the only way you do that is you take a cold steely hard look at it and and get ready. Reporter but ready for what . U. S. Officials insist there are no isis sleeper cells in the u. S. Right now, but u. S. Intelligence agencies are worried some americans fighting with isis overseas could come back to this country and carry out attacks. They are beyond just a terrorist group. They marry ideology, sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously wellfunded. This is an organization that has an apocalyptic end of days Strategic Vision and which will eventually have to be defeated. Can they be defeated without addressing that part of their organization which resides in syria in the answer is no. That will have to be addressed on both sides of what is essentially at this point a nonexistent border. Reporter for now, u. S. Military strategy remains limited to air strikes inside iraq, not in syria, isis home base, but there has been the first u. S. Military mission into syria with the acknowledgement of a failed july 4th raid to rescue james foley and other american hostages. The pentagon insists it wasnt an intelligence failure. Intelligence doesnt come wrapped in a package with a bow. It is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. Reporter u. S. Officials say that they are looking at what to do about isis, maybe expanding air strikes in iraq and maybe even considering air strikes across the border in syria, but they say all of this just options, just ideas. No decisions have been made yet. Kate . Barbara starr at pentagon for us, thank you so much, but important, as chuck hagel said, michaela, that all options are on the table, a statement in and of itself. And its a very real concern, imminent i think is probably the part thats most chilling to me. Lets take a look at your headlines and sort of playing off of there, the parents of james foley, the american beheaded by isis, have released the final email they received from his captors. The terrorists told him he was going to die as retribution for u. S. Air strikes in iraq saying, quote, he will be executed as a direct result of your transgressions towards us. Foleys former employer global post says they put the full text online in the sake of transparency, and in the meantime weve learned that pope francis has spoken with foleys parents. He called them thursday offering his condolences. Breaking news this morning from ukraine, a russian convoy carrying humanitarian aid has started crossing the border into Eastern Ukraine according to a russian official. The trucks are making their way to the rebelheld city of luhantsk but red cross is no longer with the convoy as well because of continued fighting. More than 20 trucks had been cleared by customs based on the assumption that the red cross was with them. To the middle east, israel stepping up air strikes on hamas targets in gaza. Overnight Israeli Forces attacked targets mainly on vehicles and motorcycles. Dozens of palestinians were killed in the latest round of violence. Meanwhile as egypt attempts to end the conflict falter, the United Nationss says the u. S. Has joined the european effort to come up with a resolution that will call for a sustainable ceasefire and advance the goal of longstanding peace in the region. The prisoner swap that freed Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl in exchange for taliban leaders wasnt just controversial, it was illegal, according to the Government Accountability office. It says the pentagon broke the law by failing to give relevant congressional committees 30 days notice and spending more money than authorized in order to conduct that transfer. Repercussions to come from that. Would i say so. If youre going to sue the administration, get in line at this point. Thats a good point. Join the club. Next up on new day, we turn back to ferguson, the Michael Brown investigation moves forward in ferguson with calls for a special prosecutor and new questions about the credibility of witness statements. What does all of this mean for the case . Plus, more on those warnings coming from the pentagon about the danger posed by isis. Is the u. S. Doing enough to neutralize the Terror Threat and will u. S. Policy change at all in light of the beheading of american james foley . Hey pal . You ready . Can you pick me up at 6 30 . Ah. boy im here im here cop too late. I was gone for five minutes ugh move it. Youre killing me. You know what, dad . Im good. dad it may be quite a while before hes ready, but our Subaru Legacy will be waiting for him. vo the longestlasting midsize sedan in its class. Introducing the allnew Subaru Legacy. Its not just a sedan. Its a subaru. Hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection . Yeah, we help with fraud protection. We monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. Wow youre really looking out for us. We are. And if there are unauthorized purchases on your discover card, youre never held responsible. Just to be clear, you are saying frog protection right . 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Buy three Johnson Johnson first aid products and get a free bag. Help keep teeth clean and breath fresh. Buy three Johnson Johnson first aid products with beneful healthy smile snacks. With soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,its dental that tastes so good. Beneful healthy smile food and snacks. Welcome back to new day, a night of calm here in ferguson, missouri, but there is growing debate over several key issues in the Michael Brown jr. Shooting case, including the credibility of witness statements and whether officer Darren Wilson was injured, and if so, how badly, and if so how relevant in any struggle with brown. Now a source has told cnn that wilson did not suffer a fractured eye socket despite reports, so lets figure out what this will all mean because there is a grand jury going on right now, and it is going to be presented with evidence once a week in this matter, so we have paul callin, cnn legal analyst, mo ivory, an attorney and radio host. Thanks for being here with us this morning. Lets start with Michael Brown<\/a> jr. These sounds of calm now set the scene here in ferguson as Law Enforcement<\/a> begins to pull back. Missouris governor ordering the National Guard<\/a> to gradually draw down. As we see the folks getting calmer, fewer arrests, fewer problems here, that mission, were going to draw down off that, we dont need the same force strength. This as new information clarifies reports about officer Darren Wilsons<\/a> condition after the shooting. Cnn was told officer wilson had a swollen face not a fractured eye socket and a new eyewitness Michael Brady<\/a> said he saw the beginning of the tussle through his apartment window, and it looks like officer wilson may have gotten hit. Did you ever see mike brown do a motion where he was going to hit this cop . That maybe was going to happen. That may be why the tussle was going on. Meanwhile, new details about dorion johnson and the eyewitness to the shooting. According to police documents johnson was arrested in 2011 for theft and making a false report to police. Now as peaceful memorials take the streets where violent clashes once broke out, captain ron johnson commend the community for another night of calm, a coloring book box of crayons and sock pocket on display where handguns and molotov cocktails set just a few days ago. This is what defines a community. This is truly the community of ferguson is what we see on this table today. Three big moments. What happened at the car . Was Michael Brown<\/a> jr. Running away when the firing started from the officer, and what was the ultimate thing that led the officer to take his life . Michael brady, the witness that you were hearing in this piece is key on this. Well go over that later in the show so stick by for that. Theres also new questions emerging about the key witness to the shooting in the situation, and that is the friend who was with him. His name is dorion johnson. Now his past has been called into question because the man who says he was shocked by Michael Brown<\/a> jr. s attempt to steal from a show was busted in 2011 for theft and making a false report to police. In fact, theres a warrant for his arrest right now in jefferson city, missouri, not only that, but the medical examiners findings may challenge some of johnsons story, that brown was running away with his hands up when the police opened fire, so how much does any of this hurt his credibility if this goes to trial . We took the questions to johnsons attorneys. Did you know anything about your clients criminal background before today . You know, 9 clients criminal background is really a red herring here. This is a case where you have two innocent unarmed Citizens Walking<\/a> down the street who eventually had to flee for their lives unarmed with their hand in the air. Criminal background or not everyone is entitled to constitutional protection. This Police Officer<\/a> cannot be judge, jury and execution, criminal, a student, honor roll, whatever, the point is you cant gun down innocent person. Understood, credibility, especially key, especially in assessing testimony. When they hear about the criminal background and type of crimes involved does it hurt your clients credibility . Its something he took into consideration. He met with the fbi, the prosecutors office, the representative and detective and at that time over a week ago he laid out his whole life to them. They asked him about his criminal background, the matter he had a warrant out against them and talked to them at length and in detail. If you are counsel and this case goes to trial and your client comes up and takes the stand and says what his testimony is about lets start with the robbery. He had no idea what was going on of he doesnt know why mike brown did what he did and oppose counsel said you had no idea, havent you been charged with a larceny before . Havent you been charged with making false statements to the police before, isnt that very damaging . Not at all. His credibility in this case has nothing to do with what hes been charged with in the past. It has to do what he saw here, seeing his friend get murdered in cold blood by a Police Officer<\/a>. You would have to be naive, counsel, to think that this wont try to be used against your client out here but also in a court of law. And since you open the door lets go on in that room. When character happens, if you open the door to saying they have good character then they attack you with exactly Something Like<\/a> this. Lets open the door and come into the room. What did he do . What is it that he was charged with . Hes with a group of guys that went into an Apartment Building<\/a> and while they were there somebody grabbed up a few pieces of mail. Went to the ymca to work out a little bit. Somebody report that had they took the mail. The officer comes to the place where they are, he says whats going on here and they wind up charging him with taking a piece of mail and then they ask him, well, who are you, they have already two pieces of his i. D. , they say are you dorion johnson and they say, no, charge him with making a false statement. All of that is going to come out, too, and well see what the jury thinks about that. But to do devils advocate, you know why im asking you. I hear all of it and accept all of it and as opposing counsel they will say the kid is a liar. I cant believe what hes saying here. Hes just saying whats convenient. What does that mean . What it means is this. In the jury system, and, unfortunately, thats whats happened in this process. If we have we have two young man chased after to be hunted down by a Police Officer<\/a>, one of them murdered in the street and this becomes about their past or this becomes about what happens at a store. None of this is what it should be about, and thats exactly what i would tell any oppose counsel who wanted to bring up these things. I would say, of course, you want to distract from the truth because the truth is two innocent young men were fleeing for their lives when one of them got gunned down right there in the street for no reason at all. Now his past certainly doesnt justify that. Being in the store picking up a few cigars even if that happened doesnt justify that. Nothing justifies, that and that is what i would say to anyone who tries to make this about a past or character or reputation. Lets make it about justice. Lets make it about the truth. Fair statement, counsel. Did the authorities when he went and did the interviews, they had access to what his record was . They not only had access to it they talked to him at length about it. They knew about it. Had an opportunity to ask him whatever it is they wanted to know about it. They wanted to know what happened. They were fine with it. They were fine with it. They understood it and moved on to the next issues. And they still offered him the opportunity to not be charged after he gave their story meaning they must have found some credibility to it. Made the disclosure at the opening of the meeting and at the end of the meeting he was designated as a federal witness. And you believe they had every ability to know about what were discussing right now and could have made a different judgment if we saw fit. I disclosed that matter in detail to the county prosecutor mcculloch two days before, and he said that was not of his concern. The people who needed to know about the past of your client knew in advance. Absolutely. Hes not hiding anything. He hasnt hidden anything from anyone. He has nothing to hide. He and Michael Brown<\/a> were innocent victims here, and so the fact that whoever the powers might be want to make this about something other than what happened by bringing up the past, as you put and as the former mayor put, when in fact that was disclosed to the right people, never hidden, never shied away from, i think underscores the fact that we should not be focusing on their past. What we should be focusing on is what happened in this street. And, again, to the speculation that there have been story changes, that the client has not been consistent with what he said about the matter, what do you want to say on record about how strong a story his stood up over time and what the reaction to it. The story at its core is not changed. And what the witnesses saw, two men were fleeing unarmed down the street when a Police Officer<\/a> started shooting and walked over to Michael Brown<\/a> and as he was on the ground dying when the Police Officer<\/a>s continued to shoot into him. Thats undisputed. That hasnt changed and thats not inconsistent. The bottom line is legally Michael Brown<\/a> and dorion johnson come into this situation with this Police Officer<\/a> clean in terms of who they are. Its all about what happens in the moment, kate. However, at trial when you assess testimony credibility is key in terms of how believable somebody is, but you do have to remember that the story that dorion johnson has told doesnt exist in a vacuum. Theres so many other eyewitnesses and theres a lot of corroboration involved, but its certainly going to make the investigation more challenging. Still is shocking, chris, that the attorney general said that the fbi has conducted hundreds of interviews already, at least for the part of their investigation so thats exactly to your point of all of the eyewitnesses that are going to be interviewed as part of this process. Well get back to chris on the ground in missouri in just a moment. We also want to look at this, a startling warning from the pentagon about the terror group isis. Secretary of defense chuck hagel saying the u. S. Needs to take a cold steely hard look at isis and get ready, days after american james foley was beheaded by the militants, and as u. S. Air strikes on isis targets continue in iraq. The chairman of the joint chiefs of staff warns defeating the terror group wont be possible unless its presence in syria is also addressed, a serious statement coming from Martin Dempsey<\/a>. Barbara starr has much more for us from the pentagon. Reporter good morning, kate. The question is could isis come to the United States<\/a> and attack here in the pentagon isnt ruling anything out. As isis continues its murdering rampage, alarming words from the u. S. Secretary of defense about the threat the group poses to americans. Oh, this is beyond anything that weve seen, so we must prepare for everything, and the only way you do that is you take a cold steely hard look at it and and get ready. Reporter but ready for what . U. S. Officials insist there are no isis sleeper cells in the u. S. Right now, but u. S. Intelligence agencies are worried some americans fighting with isis overseas could come back to this country and carry out attacks. They are beyond just a terrorist group. They marry ideology, sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously wellfunded. This is an organization that has an apocalyptic end of days Strategic Vision<\/a> and which will eventually have to be defeated. Can they be defeated without addressing that part of their organization which resides in syria in the answer is no. That will have to be addressed on both sides of what is essentially at this point a nonexistent border. Reporter for now, u. S. Military strategy remains limited to air strikes inside iraq, not in syria, isis home base, but there has been the first u. S. Military mission into syria with the acknowledgement of a failed july 4th raid to rescue james foley and other american hostages. The pentagon insists it wasnt an intelligence failure. Intelligence doesnt come wrapped in a package with a bow. It is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. Reporter u. S. Officials say that they are looking at what to do about isis, maybe expanding air strikes in iraq and maybe even considering air strikes across the border in syria, but they say all of this just options, just ideas. No decisions have been made yet. Kate . Barbara starr at pentagon for us, thank you so much, but important, as chuck hagel said, michaela, that all options are on the table, a statement in and of itself. And its a very real concern, imminent i think is probably the part thats most chilling to me. Lets take a look at your headlines and sort of playing off of there, the parents of james foley, the american beheaded by isis, have released the final email they received from his captors. The terrorists told him he was going to die as retribution for u. S. Air strikes in iraq saying, quote, he will be executed as a direct result of your transgressions towards us. Foleys former employer global post says they put the full text online in the sake of transparency, and in the meantime weve learned that pope francis has spoken with foleys parents. He called them thursday offering his condolences. Breaking news this morning from ukraine, a russian convoy carrying humanitarian aid has started crossing the border into Eastern Ukraine<\/a> according to a russian official. The trucks are making their way to the rebelheld city of luhantsk but red cross is no longer with the convoy as well because of continued fighting. More than 20 trucks had been cleared by customs based on the assumption that the red cross was with them. To the middle east, israel stepping up air strikes on hamas targets in gaza. Overnight Israeli Forces<\/a> attacked targets mainly on vehicles and motorcycles. Dozens of palestinians were killed in the latest round of violence. Meanwhile as egypt attempts to end the conflict falter, the United Nations<\/a>s says the u. S. Has joined the european effort to come up with a resolution that will call for a sustainable ceasefire and advance the goal of longstanding peace in the region. The prisoner swap that freed Army Sergeant<\/a> Bowe Bergdahl<\/a> in exchange for taliban leaders wasnt just controversial, it was illegal, according to the Government Accountability<\/a> office. It says the pentagon broke the law by failing to give relevant congressional committees 30 days notice and spending more money than authorized in order to conduct that transfer. Repercussions to come from that. Would i say so. If youre going to sue the administration, get in line at this point. Thats a good point. Join the club. Next up on new day, we turn back to ferguson, the Michael Brown<\/a> investigation moves forward in ferguson with calls for a special prosecutor and new questions about the credibility of witness statements. What does all of this mean for the case . Plus, more on those warnings coming from the pentagon about the danger posed by isis. Is the u. S. Doing enough to neutralize the Terror Threat<\/a> and will u. S. Policy change at all in light of the beheading of american james foley . Hey pal . You ready . Can you pick me up at 6 30 . Ah. boy im here im here cop too late. I was gone for five minutes ugh move it. Youre killing me. You know what, dad . Im good. dad it may be quite a while before hes ready, but our Subaru Legacy<\/a> will be waiting for him. vo the longestlasting midsize sedan in its class. Introducing the allnew Subaru Legacy<\/a>. Its not just a sedan. Its a subaru. Hey, i heard you guys can help me with frog protection . Yeah, we help with fraud protection. We monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. Wow youre really looking out for us. We are. And if there are unauthorized purchases on your discover card, youre never held responsible. Just to be clear, you are saying frog protection right . Yeah, fraud protection. Frog protection. Fraud protection. Frog. Fraud. Frog. Fraud. I think were on the same page. Were totally on the same page. At discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Fraud protection. Get it at discover. Com this is the first power plant in the country to combine solar and natural gas at the same location. During the day, we generate as much electricity as we can using solar. At night and when its cloudy, we use more natural gas. This ensures we can produce Clean Electricity<\/a> whenever our customers need it. Uh, hi. Im here to drop off my password . Im sorry, im just here to whats the password. Uh,synergy . Datafication gamification university of phoenix has had alumni at every fortune 100 company. So we can help open the door to your future. Go to phoenix. Edu to get started today. Glass on floors. Daily chores. For the little mishaps you feel use neosporin to help you heal. It kills germs so you heal four days faster. Neosporin. Buy three Johnson Johnson<\/a> first aid products and get a free bag. Help keep teeth clean and breath fresh. Buy three Johnson Johnson<\/a> first aid products with beneful healthy smile snacks. With soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,its dental that tastes so good. Beneful healthy smile food and snacks. Welcome back to new day, a night of calm here in ferguson, missouri, but there is growing debate over several key issues in the Michael Brown<\/a> jr. Shooting case, including the credibility of witness statements and whether officer Darren Wilson<\/a> was injured, and if so, how badly, and if so how relevant in any struggle with brown. Now a source has told cnn that wilson did not suffer a fractured eye socket despite reports, so lets figure out what this will all mean because there is a grand jury going on right now, and it is going to be presented with evidence once a week in this matter, so we have paul callin, cnn legal analyst, mo ivory, an attorney and radio host. Thanks for being here with us this morning. Lets start with Dorian Johnson<\/a>, key witness, there with Michael Brown<\/a>. Nobody closer than he and nobody should understand it better than he. However, his past, 2011, a larceny charge, also lying to cops, falsifying a false report. Lets do the upside on this to his credibility and the down. Paul, you take the upside. What is this going to mean for any defense of the officer . How will they use it against him . Well, a very good defense attorney is going to say that this attacks his credibility, his believability in a very, very serious way. The report in question indicates that not only did he lie about his age in committing a theft of mail which, by the way, is also a federal crime, but he also lied about his name, and a warrant had to be issued for his arrest. Now, when hes interviewed by federal authorities in the current case, hes offered essentially a deal. He says that he was told that nothing will happen to him, so now Defense Attorneys<\/a> will say hes testifying this way because they made a deal. Now you have to combine that, of course, chris, with the fact that, unfortunately, the victim in the case, Michael Brown<\/a>, when they bring in the Convenience Store<\/a> robbery, they are going to say he had just committed a robbery in the Second Degree<\/a>, by the way, a very serious crime under missouri law, 5 to 15 years is the penalty for robbery in the Second Degree<\/a> or a strong arm robbery. That will get to the jury and be presented to them, and i think its going to be a big weakness in the case. Mo ivory, i can hear paul callin telling his law students, the latin phrase if you lie about one thing we must assume youre lying about everything, but the past is the past. Doesnt this come down to what you saw on this day and what was done to you on this day, not the past . Well, it sure should, chris, but will it and does it when it comes to these kinds of cases and especially when were talking about a black victim at hands of the police so i am concerned about it, and i continue to be concerned about how this information is being disseminated because the police knew about this when they interviewed dorian, but now just, you know, several, you know, days later, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten days later now its coming out that he had a past and they knew about it. This is continuous activity to taint a jury pool. Its rachel gent ill all over again, make him a criminal on the stand, before he gets on the stand and im concerned and not giving the exact same attention about the lie about the eye socket with Darren Wilson<\/a>. Who is the liar there, are we attacking darrens credibility when it comes to that . Getting back to one point that mo raises. Ive defended a lot of white defendants, and they get attacked just as viciously for this kind of an arrest so i dont think this is a racial thing. This is a credibility thing and, you know, i think it has nothing to do with the race here. This is lawyers this is a standard tactic if theres a prior conviction, you attack a witness based on the prior conviction. Sure, and i understand that, and i do think its a legal tactic but race does have something to do with this. Were not at a trial yet, the beginning of a grand jury and certainly dont even have an arrest and were already talking about the main witness past . I mean, come on, it absolutely has to do with race. Ive taken positions in my discussions that we shouldnt be making our mind up about this case at all until we have all the evidence and we still dont have all the evidence. The point is as we learn, we want to provide context and thats what you do. You take it step by step and you leave the conclusions for the end. For instance, mo ivory, the autopsy, medical examiner comes out. It seems if you look at the first two autopsies, its fairly consistent that the Bullet Wounds<\/a> seem to be coming from the front. Theres some discussion of trajectory but mainly they come from the front. That has been assumed to be a thorn in the side of the theory that Michael Brown<\/a> was shot from behind. I would submit its not, and mo ivory, i would want you to take this position if you agree. It doesnt mean he wasnt fired at while running away, it means he may not have been struck while running away, isnt that a fair distinction . Absolutely, and its a fair distinction to say he could have been struck with that one bullet that the autopsy that was done by dr. Badden who was unsure whether it came up with a hand up or from behind so if we take the idea that it was from behind, well then that one shot came from behind, he turned around and the other ones came from the front so to make the assessment that the eyewitnesses say he was shot from the front but first had his back turned, that that testimony is not consistent i think is absolutely wrong. Everything that ive heard the eyewitnesses for the prosecution say seemed very consistent to me, that there was a shot from the back, he felt it, he turned around and then he was shot from the front. Thats very consistent. Well, you know, on i want to follow up on Something Else<\/a>. Sure. I want to follow up on Something Else<\/a> which is this. A lot is being made of the officer being injured. I would set aside whether its true, whether its not, whether he was hit after the fact because i dont think its relevant. I think too much is being made of whether or not hes hit, paul callin. I want you to analyze why it matters i think it works against him if he was hit in the car because it suggests that he might have been in a rage and thats why he chased and shot after the kid. What does it matter if he was hit . I dont agree with you on that, chris, and i also want to go back to something mo raised on that very issue. The officer is not releasing the information that his eye socket was broken. I dont know where that information is coming from. It has nothing to do with him. Thats true. And his role in this case so we have to wait for his testimony, but assuming he was injured, and there seem to be a lot of reports that his face was swollen, maybe lacerated, well find out, that indicates, and this is what the defense will say. That indicates that Michael Brown<\/a>, who was at that point a robbery suspect at least in his own mind because he knew he had committed the strong arm robbery struggles with the officer to stop the arrest and the officers gun goes off in the process. It was such a severe struggle that the officer is injured. Now this officer is going to say, of course, i thought i had to take my gun out because i was fearful that he would attack me again. He had injured me in the car, so i think the injury will play in the officers favor in a trial in this case. And, chris, let me just well leave it there. Give me a quick point. To say that we dont know that the officer is saying the information about his eye socket. Its true, we dont know, but why do we have the benefit of the doubt hes not the one disseminating the information . We dont know anything about what hes saying so he could have told the police that he had an injury to the eye socket. How do we know that they checked it . How do they know there was a medical report . How do we know anything so to say its not coming from him is giving him the same benefit of the doubt we continue to give him so we dont go against his character, but unquestionable about Darren Wilsons<\/a> character and his credibility . They have a word for that in the court system which is called the presumption of innocence. I totally understand that, and the presumption of innocence has been following him forever. That presumption of innocence has not been given to Michael Brown<\/a>, the dead boy in the street, nor to the eyewitnesses that are coming forth with their stories about what happened. And they are not they are not thats all im saying. They are potentially not on trial in the matter. Its the way the system works. Thats true. What they say could be broken down in the same way what Darren Wilson<\/a> says so they are in effect on trial as well. Right. Paul is speaking to the analytics of tactics of trial, mo. Youre going to the idea of what the narrative is surrounding it. I get it. Just for the audience. You both get it very well. Youre both polished pros. I get it. Thanks for taking us through it this morning. There will be more rounds of this as we learn more and we get everybody ready for what may or may not happen in this prosecution. Lets take a break right now. When we come back, well have more from here in ferguson, but first isis, obviously the new focus of the war on terror. The defense secretary chuck hagel now says they are large, they are wellorganized and, quote, beyond just a terror group. So the question is obvious, how will the u. S. Deal with the threat, especially in the wake of the beheading of journalist james foley . Whats next coming up. So i can reach ally bank 24 7, but there are no branches . 24 7 its just im a little reluctant to try new things. Whats wrong with trying new things . Feel that in your muscles . Yeah. I do. Try a new way to bank, where no branches equals great rates. Welcome back. The top pentagon official sounding the alarm this morning saying isis poses a dire threat that the United States<\/a> must take seriously. Secretary of defense chuck hagel says the u. S. Must be prepared for everything when it comes to the militant group. Listen. They carry an ideology, a sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously wellfunded. Oh, this is beyond anything that weve seen. Quite a startling warning. Lets talk about the threat from isis extremists with harris rafiq, outreach officer and antiextremism. You heard that warning and they went on and on and one warning from another coming from the pentagon quite frankly. Secretary of defense saying oh, this is beyond anything that weve seen. Do you agree . Oh, absolutely. This is 21st century jihad. What is different . Can you lay that out . Whats different about isis now . Okay. Essentially what is different is they have over 1 billion worth of assets. They are wellfunded. They are operating as a corporate entity. They are getting out to people. They are using social media. They are more barbaric than anything they have seen before. They will go to no ends. They have had children in photographs and images with severed heads. They have obviously had the gory and gruesome beheading of the late james foley. They are ready to do whatever they need to do and what we see different now is they have the strategy. They have the motivation. They have the funds and they are actually well, well organized, and this is something weve not experienced before. Before we had al qaeda who were operating as cells and inspiring other groups. We had al shabaab, boca haram, et cetera. These guys are much more organized and created an Islamic State<\/a> that i dont recognize and majority of muslims dont recognize and some do. This is the problem weve had, islamist ideology, including the muslim brotherhood, in the uk and around the world sowing the seeds. So many people taught since then were wrong that theres an utopian islamic caliphate. Now theres a guy who claims hes got one, got some means and won some battles and many more people saying we believe in the islamic caliphate, why dont we go join them. Let me ask you about this. You talk about them being wellfunded. We discussed this last time, and you say again 2 billion in assets. Thats an eyepopping number. That gets to my question which is when it comes to the case of james foley, we have learned that there was a ransom request of 130 million. Does ransom play a large role in the funding of isis . Where are they getting their funding, in other words . Isis basically were part of al qaeda in iraq and they were kicked out, and they have a history of funding themselves through extortion, through blackmail, through kidnapping. They used to extort money from the oil field the people who run the oil fields in the iraqi region. I remember a story where they actually wanted, demanded half a Million Dollars<\/a> a month from one particular organization, and they were paying it, and then when they wanted 1 million a month the organization actually brought all its staff back and said no, no, no, well take half a million so they have a history of blackmail and extortion. Other areas that they are getting the funding from, now that they have captured the oil fields in northwest iraq, they are actually selling oil on the black market, and its estimated, and i think we talked about it before, that its estimate that had they are earning anywhere in the region of 1 billion a day from selling oil in the black market and, of course, they have the bank in mosul that they have raided and theres a different numbers of what sort of different figures of the amount of money that was there, but some people were say there were 800 million and 900 million worth of liquid cash available there and they took that. Yes, extortion and blackmail plays a key part, and historically thats played a key part in the way that they fund themselves. Of course then the question is what do we do about it, we being all the western allies, the United States<\/a> and its western allies . I mean, the focus the u. S. Policy so far has been largely the focus of containing the threat, not necessarily defeating isis, but also in this press conference, this press briefing, we heard from the joint chiefs chairman Martin Dempsey<\/a> when asked about do you have to go in and address part of this organization that resides in syria . He says you cant defeat them without doing that. Do you agree . Oh, absolutely because what will happen is that once were arming arm the peshmergas in kurdistan, the only option under the cover of air strikes from the usa and its allies, the only option that they will have is to go back into syria. Now, imagine imagine if this happens and isis sort of capitulates a little bit and all the foreign fighters that we have fighting in the region are sent back to their home countries. What do we do then . Our security agencies will not be able to cope. Well have a number of european and american and western jihadis with passports that will allow them free travel. This is a longterm battle that we have to have some strategies in place of what are we going to do when they actually go into syria, and, secondly, how are we going to tackle the hearts and minds . We have a number of people in the u. S. And a number of people in the uk over the last 10, 15 years who have been taking this battle of hearts and minds forward. Sheikh qabbani in the usa who ive had the pleasure of meeting and they are not getting the support from the government, from the white house and from other places to take and be empowered to take this battle forward. Thats what we need to do. We dont win the hearts and minds of people long term were going to carry on losing. That is a terrifying thought and a huge task ahead in winning the hearts and minds. One thing to have a military campaign but its another to take on the task that youre talking about right there. That is long term. Haras rafiq, great to see you as always. Thank you so much. My pleasure. Coming up next on new day, the parents of Michael Brown<\/a> talking to cnn, the emotional interview including his mothers heart wrenching account of the moment that she learned her son had been killed. That is ahead. Imagine the luxury. Of not being here. The power you want with the fuel economy you dream of. Performance with a conscience. This is volvo innovating for you. train horn vo wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. Norfolk southern. One line, infinite possibilities. Good to have you back with us here on new day. Heres a look the at your headlines. Breaking news this morning from ukraine. A russian convoy carrying humanitarian aid has started crossing into Eastern Ukraine<\/a>, this according to a russian official. 34 trucks are making their way to the rebelheld city of luhantsk and now 90 more are moving towards the border, but red cross is no longer accompanying these trucks as planned because continued fighting in the area between Ukrainian Forces<\/a> and the rebels. The red cross was supposed to be with the convoy as part of a russianukrainian agreement. In the middle east, israel is stepping up air strikes on hamas targets in gaza. Overnight Israeli Forces<\/a> attacked militant targets mainly in vehicles and on motorcycles. Dozens of palestinians killed in the latest round of violence meanwhile, as egypt attempts to end the conflict falters, the United Nations<\/a> says the u. S. Has joined the european effort to come up with a resolution that will call for a sustainable ceasefire and advance the goal of longstanding peace in the region. Texas governor rick perry will be arraigned in an austin courtroom today, but he will be 2,000 miles away in New Hampshire<\/a>. Perry is traveling around the country, exploring a possible 2016 run for president. Grand jury indicted perry last week on charges of abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant. Perry for his part has pleaded not guilty. He did have his mug shot and fingerprints taken earlier this week. A federal judge has declared floridas ban on samesex marriage unconstitutional, but the judge did put the marriages on hold for now pending appeals. A total of 19 federal courts have now weighed in on the issue, all reaching the same conclusion, to strike down state laws barring gay and lesbian couples from tying the knot. All right. Lets take a look at weather right now. Meteorologist intrapetersons is keeping track of it all for us. Heading to the weekend and you just whispered to me thunderstorms. Already said the t word. Take a look right around chicago, look at all of the lightning that continues to flash in the region. In fact, a lot of flooding concerns are imminent in that area with over four inches of rain having fallen around the midway area. Well be watching as the northeast gets better. High pressure will build in as we go towards the weekend. Saturday and sunday looks good and, unfortunately, around the midwest, a lot of instability out there, more showers as you go through that weekend. A lot of heat is out there, one of the reasons that we talk about that threat for thunderstorms so even a Severe Weather<\/a> threat will be there, greenville, wilmington, Severe Weather<\/a> threat and back again towards the plain. But it is the heat. Talk about how warm it is, warmest its been all year, so the hottest day all year will be for little rock, indianapolis, memphis and jacksonville today. Thats the kind of heat were talking about, so with the heat advisories in place, thats the actual high and hearing some more of this, dulles 100 degrees today, but it will feel even warmer when you add in the humidity. Another major thing well be watching. 60 chance that were talking about development out in the atlantic. Latest models look good. They will be curving these out to sea. Not complete agreement just yet so something well be closely watching as we go to the next several days. We dont want another system but were getting very close to peak system. Heading right into it. On temperatures, been a relatively mild summer. For the northeast its been great, but, unfortunately, the south is burning up, literally. And so dry out west, too. Yeah. Complete opposites really. Thanks, indra. Yeah. Coming up next on new day, an emotional new interview with Michael Brown<\/a>s parents. Youll hear his mothers heartbreaking account of the day, the moment, that she learned that her son was killed. At od, whatever business youre in, thats the business were in. With Premium Service<\/a> like one of the best ontime delivery records and a low claims ratio, we do whatever it takes to make your business our business. Od. Helping the world keep promises. But do you know whats the in your skincare . Neutrogena naturals. A line of naturally derived skincare with carefully chosen, clinically proven ingredients and no harsh chemicals. Healthy skinstarts from within. Neutrogena naturals. Welcome back to ferguson, missouri here as we start your new day. The National Guard<\/a> still behind us, about a dozen Police Cruisers<\/a> just came to the command center as the community is far calmer, but theres still a question of how long it will last, and for all the doubt that is on the ground here, one thing is for sure. Michael brown jr. s life ended far too soon. At just 1 years of age, the unarmed teenager was shot and killed almost two weeks ago and is said to be buried monday. His mother and father sat down with Anderson Cooper<\/a> and opened up about how the loss of their son has changed them forever and what the outrage and all that followed has done to help and hurt and what justice they seek now. This is obviously every parents Worst Nightmare<\/a>. Mike, how do you get through each day . I dont. I just glide through, you know. Not to see him physically moving around again in my life, thats a heartbreaker for me. Its painful, you know. I just i cant really explain how i really feel about this, you know. Leslie, does it seem real . Nope. It still doesnt . How are you getting through each day . Prayer, family, support. You both met with the attorney general yesterday, eric holder. How was that . What did he say to you . He just kind of talked to us from a man with kids hisself perspective. He talked to you as a parent . Yes. Did it help . It actually helped me because he he has our support, you know. Hes supporting us, and he said hes not going to hes not going to stop. Hes going to help us all the way through. Did it make a difference that he came here, that he looked you in the eye and met with you privately . Yes, he did to me. In what way . Because you can read a person, and when you are looking at them and they are looking at you, and your eyes, it puts some trust back there that you lost, and he did and assured that it will be a fair and thorough investigation. Do you believe, do you have confidence in the investigation . Up until yesterday i didnt. You didnt . But just hearing the words come directly from his mouth facetoface, he made me feel like one day i will, and im not saying today or yesterday, but one day ill they will regain my trust. The grand jury just started yesterday. Yeah. We learned it may not be until october that they come up with a decision about what they are going to do. Obviously you want answers now. Right. Are you ready to are you able to wait . I want everything to i dont want to rush judgment. I want everyone to take their time so there will be no mistakes and get it done right. Youve talked publicly about justice. You want justice. For you what is justice for your son . For this guy to go to jail so we can have some type of peace. Hes still Walking Around<\/a> with pay. Thats not thats not fair to us. Were hurt and he has his life. Our son is gone. Do you actually go to the scene . Yes. That terrible day . Yes. Did you see your son . Well, when i when we arrived, he was covered up, so i didnt see him how other people seen him laying in the street. Did it upset you that he was left out for so long . Yes. Did that is that something that still upsets you . Yes. We couldnt even see him. They wouldnt even let us see him. Just left us out there four and a half hours with no answers, with nobody tell us nothing. Leslie, were you there as well . Mmhmm,up. I cant imagine as a parent standing there as the hours tick by. Right. Before even getting there, somebody call you on the phone and tell you Something Like<\/a> that and you are miles away. Its terrible. Nothing will ever take away the loss that these two people have suffered, and yet to hear from the father, he doesnt want any rush here. He wants everything to take time that it needs so that its all done right. The parents of mike brown jr. , and there is new information into the investigation of their sons death. We are going to have that for you and a lot of other news that youre going to want as you start your new day as well so lets get to it. In order for us to move forward, then were going to have to build some trust. 12 days after the shooting death of Michael Brown<\/a>, people here are so angry, and they want answers. For you, what is justice for your son . Hes got to go to jail. Isil clearly poses a longterm threat. Ive been told with no uncertainty there are isis sleeper cells in this country. Two americans receiving treatment for ebola have recovered. Im thrilled to be alive, to be well and to be reunited with my family. Good morning and welcome back to new day. We are in a much calmer ferguson, missouri this morning. The crowd now marching for peace. Only seven people arrested, and we will wait to see what will come after the anger, kate. The situation, chris, calm enough that missouri governor jay nixon has now ordered the National Guard<\/a> to start withdrawing, to begin the process, and they are expected to begin that process of leaving later today, chris. Were also learning new information about the officer involved, Darren Wilson<\/a>. His condition, for example, after the shooting, a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation tells cnn officer wilson did have injuries to his face but not a fractured eye socket. There were many reports to the contrary, but thats what we are told so the big mystery remains what prompted the shooting and was brown complying with police . On that part lets get to George Howell<\/a> who has the latest for us. Reporter chris, good morning. A day of calm, a night of calm. Its something that many in this community had hoped for, but lets take this moment now to reset, to review the case in full and the various conflicting points of view. In the center of canfield drive, this memorial marks the spot where Michael Brown<\/a> was shot and killed by a ferguson Police Officer<\/a>, but after nearly two weeks exactly what led officer Darren Wilson<\/a> to fire at the unarmed teen remains unknown. One thing that is not in dispute by many accounts is where everything happened. We know that officer wilsons car was just about here where im standing, and mike browns body was found right over here where this memorial is, about 35 feet away. The one thing thats still unclear is exactly where the officer was between these two points when the shots were fired. Eyewitness Dorian Johnson<\/a> was with brown on that day. He turned around with his hands up, beginning to tell the officer that he was unarmed and to tell him to stop shooting, but at that time the officer was firing several more shots into my friend. Several key points are in dispute. Among the scenarios was brown shot from behind . Was he the aggressor, or did he die with his hands up . At least two witnesses, Tiffany Mitchell<\/a> and p. J. Crenshaw. He runs and gets out of his vehicle and follows behind him shooting. Turned around and didnt reach for anything. He put his hands into the air being complaint, and he still got shot down like a dog. And then theres officer wilsons account retold by a friend saying it was Michael Brown<\/a> who was the aggressor. So he stands up and yells freeze. Michael and his friend turn around and michael starts taunting him, oh, what are you going to do about it, you know . Youre not going to shoot me and then all of a sudden he just started to bum rush him and started to come at him. An unknown man in his words captured by this video also seems to suggest that brown was coming at the officer. He starts running. And another witness Michael Brady<\/a> tells chris cuomo that wasnt the case. Does the word charged fit what mike brown was doing . Charged, no, like want to charge towards the officer . Yes. No, no. So now whats next . We understand that the process to examine evidence has already started, the st. Louis county prosecuting attorney saying hes targeted midoctober before the grand jury has examined all of the evidence in this case, so the process under way now. People in this Community Just<\/a> have to wait for that process to happen. Chris . You know, george, as we both know, thats how it is with grand juries. They only meet one day a week which is why there was a lot of pressure on the prosecutor to just charge as a right of his own. He chose not to do that. Chose the grand jury. Thanks as always. Reporting is great. Well be back with you. Lets bring in one of the attorneys for Michael Brown<\/a>s family, daryl parks. Thanks for joining us. Lets check some of the boxes as people bring out sources of potential controversy. Lets start with the autopsy. Okay . Every time we hear about the autopsy, heard about one from the family, one from the medical examiner. The shots are in the front, not from behind. Maybe a couple could be from behind but maybe, maybe not. Oh, that disrupts the idea that he was shot at from behind. A point youve made to me that i would like you to make now is you have to distinguish between being hit from behind and being shot at from behind and maybe the officer just missed. What is the take on the analysis . Correct. The witnesses corroborate that some shots were fired at michael as he ran away. The autopsy showed that theres a possibility that one of the shots may have come from behind, the shot to the right arm. Those are the only shots that possibly could have come from behind. Then we have michael turning around, surrendering to the officer and not running away by surrendering to the officer. In the course of that he is shot several times in the front during that time. He at some point starts going down, and the officer continues to shoot him as the officer comes upon him. Thats the account that i heard from the witnesses and the autopsy. And the question then becomes why did the officer need to shoot him in that final moment when he was when that were facetoface, facing each other though still at a distance. Now, Michael Brady<\/a> gives a strong account of this and keeps telling a consistent story, he stands by it. The problem is with his account, as you know, he did not see the moment that Michael Brown<\/a> jr. Stopped running away and wound up facing the officer. He did not see whether he had his hands up or whether he was rushing him. He only saw him once he had already been shot. What do you take of that hole in his story . Well, i think although he doesnt see when Michael First<\/a> turns around, he does see the latter part of the altercation in terms of when michael has been shot and when the officer delivers the last couple of shots. The important part from the autopsy, chris, is that the examining doctors believed that the fatal shot that took michael down is the shot to the apex of the head because you cannot survive that shot. It automatically takes you down so that had to have been one of the last shots fired, thus taking him down. The importance of that though is the angle of that shot that went to the apex of his head. It goes from a back to forward position and that makes it so critical because his head had to have been in a very, very down position putting the officer over him for that bullet to go from back to front. Michael brady makes his testimony, his witness, makes that point. He says that he watched those shots and when the last shots were fired, while he couldnt tell where Michael Brown<\/a> was being hit, he did see that he stopped immediately with the last hit, you know, which does go along with what youre suggesting, and the point that you make, i believe, you tell me, is that an overs doesnt have to account just for shooting, he has to account for each shot . Well, certainly. I think its rather clear that certainly theres a situation that happened within the car and then clearly at a certain point mr. Michael brown leaves the vehicle and starts running away, and i think thats a distinctful point here because the officer then has to get out of car. It means he has to open the door, get out of the car, put his foot on the ground, pull a gun up. He cant open a door with the gun out, so he gets out of the car, and then shoots in the direction as the kid is running away. I believe at that point alone that is a violation of his civil rights because that use of force for a person who is going away from you was not necessary. Right. You made that when we first heard the reports about the what happened to his eye socket that have since been greatly rebuked as far as i can tell from our reporting, it does not seem like that happened. Maybe he got xrays done, but there doesnt seem to be any reporting right now to support any extreme injury. You said it doesnt matter to you whether or not the officer was hit in the face, whether he has a broken orbital bone, doesnt matter to you in your analysis of whether or not this was a justified shooting because, why . It didnt take that level of force to apprehend this suspect. There was nothing that had happened there that the officer would have believed that he was in any type of fear that required him to use his firearm immediately for a person who is going away from him. I want to also make a comment on what you said about the officers injury. I knew all along, you know, part of our practice we do some matters that involve a lot of medical injuries, and when i saw the video of the officer standing outside and i watched his demeanor and i watched how he, you know, interacted with the other officer, it didnt appear to me that he was a person suffering in any type of way, shape, form or fashion. You dont see him putting his hand up to his face as if he is in some pain. For the injury that they described, obviously there would have been tremendous pain that would have made anyone need to, you know, put the and there, to bandage it, you know. There would have been blood or, you know, he probably obviously something happened but it wasnt to the level that many tried to describe it earlier this week. Especially when you add in the point that Michael Brown<\/a> then took off from the car, so even if he was a threat at that point, the threat, youre arguing, would have ended. Let me ask you to speak to one other point before i go. Listening to the parents, they both said, hey, justice for us is this being done right. Lets everybody take their time. I know everybody is calling for more now, more now and an arrest now. Not us. Take the time. We want it done right. Do you think the message that needs to come out from you and others who support the family is lets trust the process now . Lets trust the u. S. Attorney general to oversee and make sure its done right so that you dont undermine confidence in what comes next . Well, youve got to be careful there. Remember, we have a system of government that gives both systems the right to investigate this case, and the federal aspect of it is rather limited in terms of enforcement of possible criminal laws. The states component is the part that has the far wider latitude in terms of its charging capability. Thats what makes the states part of the case so, so important. Let me give you an example, chris. In a normal situation, a family who has suffered a death and a person has died, they normally receive some type of victims advocate contact from the state attorneys office. That hasnt happened in this case. They are not treating this family as if they have been victimized. They are treating the officer as hes victim, and we have a big problem with that. This family has suffered the biggest loss any parents could ever v. They are the victims and deserve all the rights that a victim should have in this situation. Well, there is absolutely no question that Michael Brown<\/a>s parents have suffered a loss, and they did nothing to deserve that, no question about that. Counsel, thank you very much for joining us. As always, well be speaking to you Going Forward<\/a>, no question about that either. Thank you. Thanks for joining us on new day. Kate, over to you. Chris, thanks so much. This morning were also taking a look back at this story and getting a closer look at a disturbing email from isis militants written just days before james foleys murder. His family released the email from his captors that also confirms that the terror group demanded a ransom of more than 130 million for his release. A much closer look now at this live from london right now. Its an unbelievable email. Reporter it is and its very horrible to read it when we know what happened very shortly afterwards. Ill read a quick excerpt. It said today our swords with unsheathed towards you, government and citizens alike, and we will not stop until we quench our thirst for your blood. You do not spare our weak elderly women and your children so well not spare yours. You and your citizens will pay the price of the bombing, the first of which being the blood of the american citizens james foley. Hell be executed as a direct result of transgressions towards us. Very similar language to what we actually heard on the video and, of course, we know now that the man in that video, who appears to have carried out the killing is speaking in a british accent, and this is why investigators here are trying very hard to track down who this man, is match the audio and video recording there with their database here and see if they can find out among hundreds of jihadis they have been tracking if this man is one of them, if he can be identified. Also wonder if thats possible, if they are able to do that, if they can also lead them to maybe where the other captives are being held. The process is obviously a very sensitive one. Thank you so much for that. Were staying on this story and taking a look at a lot of other headlines. Watching the situation in ukraine and russia along the border there, a little bit of an update. Breaking news from ukraine. A russian convoy carrying humanitarian aid has crossed the border into Eastern Ukraine<\/a>. The trucks are making their way to a rebelheld city. Ukrainian Officials Say<\/a> 80 more are now headed towards the border. However, the red cross is no longer accompanying the trucks as planned because of continued fighting in the area between Ukrainian Forces<\/a> and rebels. More than 30 trucks have been cleared by russian and ukrainian customs based on the assumption that the red cross was traveling with them. In the middle east, Israeli Forces<\/a> fired off another round of deadly air strikes on hamas targets in gaza, and this morning hamas media reported the group executed 18 people suspected of being informants for israel. Meanwhile, palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas<\/a> insisting there is no alternative to egypts plan for a longterm truce. He is in cairo for a new round of peace talks this weekend. A government watchdog says the secret deal that freed Army Sergeant<\/a> Bowe Bergdahl<\/a> in exchange for five taliban prisoners back in may was illegal. An investigation by the Government Accountability<\/a> office found the pentagon broke the law failing to give congress the required 30 days notice and spending more on the transfer than authorized. Texas governor rick perry will be arraigned today on felony charges that he abused his power, but instead of being in court perry will be almost 2,000 miles away in New Hampshire<\/a> testing the waters for a possible 2016 president ial run. He has a series of campaignstyle visits scheduled in key nominating states. Perry was booked, even had his mug shot taken earlier this week. He says, however, hell fight the charges, quote, with every fiber of his being, a bit of a grin there for the cameras just for added effect. Quite a mug shot. Coming up next on new day, well go back out to chris who is in ferguson for us, but, first, well also be talking about the u. S. Issuing a new warning about isis. The pentagon says the terror group is beyond anything this country has ever seen. What makes these terrorists so powerful . Were going to talk to the pentagon spokesman about that and also what the u. S. Is going to do about it. What are you doing jake . Hang that in your own tree. 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His comments come days after isis savagely executed american james foley and threatened the life of another american, steven sotloff. Lets discuss this with admiral john kirby. Great to see you, admiral. I want to get straight to it because ill tell you, a lot of people were surprised at how strongly and forcefully the secretary and the joint chiefs chairman came out and spoke yesterday in that press briefing. Right. When you hear from the secretary of defense you need to take a cold, steely, hard look at it and get ready, get ready for what . Get ready for all the options that are available to the United States<\/a> government, to International Partners<\/a> to deal with a growing threat like isil. These are not just people that are threatening the security of people of baghdad or iraq or the region but they have the aspirations of attacking western regions as well. They have global aspirations, and i think he was speaking to everybody, not just americans, but people around the world, that this is a threat we need to take seriously. You want to take it seriously and even use the word imminent when they are talking about this as well. You heard from the joint chiefs chairman and this has stuck with a lot of folks and requires us discussing this. He acknowledged that isis can maybe be contained for some period of time, isis cannot be defeated without addressing its elements in syria. Is it seen as inevitable by the pentagon that the u. S. Will have to strike in syria . Well, kate, we dont telegraph punches here in the pentagon so i wont speculate about any future operations one way or the other, but what i would point you to is the other thing that the joint chiefs chairman dempsey said is the only way these guys get defeated is when their ideology can be rejected and that can be best through Good Governance<\/a>, both in syria and iraq, and thats why weve been pushing so hard on iraq to form a unity government thats inclusive and responsive to all iraqi citizens. We dont see that from the assad regime in syria. But the real answer, the longterm strategy is to defeat their ideology by Good Governance<\/a> and responsive politics. But in facing a very near term and immediate threat from isis that we see, i totally respect not telegraphing troop movements, if you will, but when the secretary says they are looking at all options when pressed about strikes, what are the other options if a strike isnt one of them . Well, look, i mean, again, he said all options are being considered, and i wont delph into each one of those options. Were a Planning Organization<\/a> here at pentagon and have to be ready for all that kind of stuff. What they also said its going to take more than military action to deal with the threat that isil poses to the region and frankly to western targets. Its going to take diplomatic energy, Political Energy<\/a> and economic and informational. Its not just going to be about the military and the president has been very clear about the mission that were conducting inside iraq right now. Theres not going to be a military solution to the trouble and the threat that isil poses inside iraq. But this also seems like quite i dont even want to call it an admission, but an acknowledgement of the reality on the ground when for a long time all weve heard, and weve heard from the administration, they have stressed over and over again, that this will be, especially in iraq, a limited nature of this engagement, the limited nature of u. S. Involvement over there, no troops on the ground, but then you seem to have something that has changed for the secretary of defense and the joint chiefs chairman to come out and acknowledge that you cant really take on isis unless youre going to be looking into syria. What changed . Nothing changed, kate. Weve always known that their sanctuary in syria was a problem, their resourcing from syria was a approximate weve always known this. Weve been watching isil now for many, many months and the fact that they sort of were able to sprout out of syria was not a surprise to us, but syria is a very complicated problem, and, again, the real root of the issue in syria is the assad regime and the joint chiefs and secretary said that yesterday as well. Is there be a acknowledgement that we would be looking at a different situation today if the choice had been made to go in and harm and arm some of the vetted rebel groups . Would isis be as strong . Would their growth have been so fast if rebel groups would have been armed . Ill tell you, its not a good exercise to get into armchair quarterbacking and doing hypotheticals about the past. All we can do here is consider the present environment that were dealing with and the future threat that isil poses. Again, weve got a very clear set of missions that were accomplishing in iraq, very discreet targets that we can go after and authorizations to do that, and thats what were focused on right now at miller, i want to get your take were looking at the most immediate threat in that region and americans are wondering how immediate threat is to the homeland, to the u. S. The governor of texas, rick perry, he spoke about the threat to the United States<\/a> by isis in talking about the border. Let me play you a little bit of what he said, and i want to get your take. I think theres the obvious grave concern that because of the condition of the border from the standpoint of it not being secure and us not knowing who is penetrating across that individuals from isis or other terrorist states could be and i think is a very real possibility that they may have already used that. Is that a serious concern of the pentagon . Well, again, we have concerns about isils growth and their strength and their global aspirations. Which is coming through the border with mexico. Ive seen no indication that they are coming across the border with mexico. We have no information that leads us to believe that. That said, we do know they have aspirations to hit western targets and its something, as secretary hagel said yesterday, that weve got to take seriously and with have to try to be ready for it. Do we have any real accounting . Whats the best estimate of how many people with american passports are sympathizing with isis and are real threats to the United States<\/a> and are over there right now . I dont have that number. I dont have a hard and fast number and you bring a really interesting point to light, the growth of foreign fighters inside the isil. The british are investigating to see who the murderer was who killed jim foley because of his british accent. When we were in australia a week and a half ago, the australians publicly and privately with secretary hagel raised this issue of concern over australian citizens becoming radicalized and joining isil. Its a problem in many countries, and we face that problem here in america. Its just hard to get our hands around it. Absolutely. Rear admiral john kirby, always great to have you. Thank you for your time again. Thanks, kate. Coming up next on new day, where is Darren Wilson<\/a> . Hes not been seen in public since Michael Brown<\/a>s death, his supporters have also been taking to the streets. Were going to be live in ferguson with the very latest. From 2000 to 2011, on average 17 manufacturers a day shut down in america. Theres no reason we cant manufacture in the United States<\/a>. Here at timbuk2, we make more than 70,000 custom bags a year, right here in San Francisco<\/a>. We knew we needed to grow internationally, we also knew that it was much more complicated to deal with. 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This comes a day after an israeli air strike killed three hamas leaders, and overnight Israeli Forces<\/a> launched another round of deadly air strikes on hamas targets in gaza. The remains of 20 malaysian victims from downed flight mh17 finally arriving home this morning. Malaysian officials received the flagdraped coffins at a ceremony of Kuala Lumpurs<\/a> airport. Today has been declared a national day of mourning in malaysia. There were 43 malaysian passengers aboard flight 17 when it was shot down over Eastern Ukraine<\/a> in july. The Obama Administration<\/a> is putting new limits on renewing prescriptions for the commonly used painkillers in an effort to curb widespread abuse. The dea will reclassify hydrocodone, things like strike dan, putting them in a category reserved of medical substances with the highest potential of harm. People will get a maximum 90day supply before they need a new prescription. These new rules will take effect in 45 days. Weve been noticing how high the increase of Prescription Drug<\/a> abuse has been. Its huge. And they are trying to figure out what to do. And the number of deaths, a huge number, and it really goes underdiscussed i believe. Really does. Lets take a turn. Can we turn to the most awesome thing. One of the more cooler things. My father gets so excited, loves the Little League<\/a> world series. Fullgrown men, so excited. The run for mone davis and her team from philly has come to an end at the Little League<\/a> world series but i would say theres a lot to applaud in all of the performances. They played better than any of us, andy scholes, in the bleacher report. Can probably throw heard than i can, up to 70 miles per hour. Not probably, lets just be honest. Yes, definitely, definitely can throw harder than me but thats for another time. Unfortunately, we wont get to see mone davis pitch another time at Little League<\/a> world series because philly, her team, they ended up losing last night to chicago. They were playing the Team Jackie Robinson<\/a> west, an Elimination Game<\/a> and errors in the field, they would be costly for philly. First inning, the ball gets thrown right by davis at first base. Chicago took a 22 lead on that play. Fill woe make it close, but they ended up coming up short losing 65 in the game so Jackie Robinson<\/a> west, the team comprised of all black players from the south side of chicago moves on to play las vegas in saturdays championship game. Should be a great matchup. Week three of the nfl preseason kicking off last night with the eagles and state. Bell and blount both playing in this game less than 48 hours being cited for marijuana possession. Bell probably wish he wasnt playing because he got his bell rung by ryans on this play in the First Quarter<\/a>. Ryans was flagged for an illegal hit. A scary moment if youve got lesean mccoy on your fantasy team, left the game in the First Quarter<\/a> with an injured thumb. Xrays were negative and eagles say its no big deal. Turning to bleacherreport. Com this morning. Chris rock was taking in yesterdays yankees game when a foul ball headed his way. He ended up with it and thats a nice thing giving it to a kid sitting nearby. If you take another look. Instead of going for the catch when the ball was coming his way, check out rock, he just gets out of the way. I dont know about you guys, but to me a foul ball is all about going for the glory, going for the catch. Nope, nope. Actually getting the ball is, you know, second place for me. Youve got to make the catch. I respect absolutely respect that, but you know if you do not have a mitt. That hurts. Theres a potential for real injury here. Yes, but thats why its so much better if you do make a catch with the bare hands. All about the glory. I love it. So manly, doing worse than, that id be the girl crawling over the seats to get away from the ball. Id make a deal with the people sitting on either side of me. If the ball comes towards us, i duck and you protect the ball. Protect the moneymaker. Andy scholes, good to see you. Well see you a little later. Coming up on new day, the other side of the ferguson story. Officer Darren Wilson<\/a>. Where is he . He hasnt been seen or heard from publicly since the incident. What we know about him coming up. And really an amazing story we have been following. They beat almost insurmountable odds, the recovery of two americans that were infected with ebola. Were going to speak with one of the doctors who was part of the team that cared for both of them. [ dog barks ] [ male announcer ] imagine the cars we drive. Being able to see so clearly. To respond so intelligently and so quickly, they can help protect us from a world of unseen danger. Its the stuff of science fiction. 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At discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Fraud protection. Get it at discover. Com welcome back to new day, calm here in ferguson, missouri, but what comes next after the anger will probably matter the most in the outcome of this investigation. Questions continue to pile up and many are about the Police Officer<\/a> who shot him. Who is officer Darren Wilson<\/a>, as with the deceased and his friend, there are competing notions of what he did that day and in the past. Hes made no Public Statement<\/a> or appearances since the shooting nearly two weeks ago. There was one radio interview and there was report of a severe injury leaked from inside the force that cnn reports is not credible. So what do we know . What should we know, what matters . Lets bring in liz brown, a columnist for the st. Louis newspaper and a criminal defense attorney. Good to have you here. Good morning. Great to be here. Lets start with the initial notion. Okay. Where is the officer . Heres a statement against interests as a media type, right . Okay. He doesnt have to be out. Supposed to be done in the investigation. Supposed to be quiet. As attorneys i marvel how many people we get on tv and what they want to discuss. Should it count against him hes keeping a low profile . We have to analyze what that low profile looks like. Last sunday i saw a copy of the incident report written by him. It was blank and empty. Nothing there. Hes a 28yearold person. One would think that there would be stuff about him all over the internet, but nothing is there. You couldnt even find a picture of him. Why . Because we dont care, because we want to focus on brown and Dorian Johnson<\/a>, or do you think its because it hasnt been supplied to us as other things have . I think its because it hasnt been supplied. There were five days before we knew his name. Perhaps somebody went in and scrubbed his office off of the internet. I mean, how can a 28yearold leave no footprint on the internet . How much is okay because of the presumption of innocence . That hes one that will be on trial, Michael Brown<\/a> may not, but perhaps in some kind of a social trial thats fair or unfair. Hell actually be on the trial so you give him the benefit of the doubt. Im a criminal defense attorney and appreciate and certainly expect that his attorney would want him to not say anything and for him to have the presumption of innocence. But whats happening here seems to be a little bit different. Its almost like instead of a Witness Protection Program<\/a> we have a defendant protection program, that there is no information out there for any of us to look at or make a decision upon. I dont know if its coming from his attorney if its coming from the prosecutors office, getting a helping hand to hide himself to keep the evidence out there, keep the evidence from coming out there, thats a big problem. Is the Police Department<\/a> covering up for one of their own . Ish. Youd a blank incident report . They will say were the little guys, were ferguson, we often da fever to st. Louis county. If you dont live here, we all happen to learn, you know, this ive had to learn there. Theres so many different municipalities around here. Ferguson says we defer to st. Louis county all the time. They would do the report. Its not unusual, and you say . I say in this case for a blank, for absolutely nothing to be written by a little municipality its unusual. Then you get into whats legal versus whats fair in this media trial. Right. That goes on. What do you think, a lot of time out here as responsible journalists have. I know this. He did this. I heard him say this and i heard him say that. Weve been slow on that. On the part of Michael Brown<\/a>, people say, hey, you know, he had no record but he had a juve record and it was for this and for that. Do you think all of that should come out . Do you think its fair . I think that a juvenile record is protected by law. I dont think its fair for a juvenile record of anyone to come out, but i think that if there are reports in the public about the treatment of this particular officer with another person, i absolutely think that that is fair. I think that it is relevant and i think that it is fair because, again, the deceased is not going to have an opportunity to defend himself and there are going to be people eventually perhaps that come out and say other things about Michael Brown<\/a>, maybe they will, maybe they wont and certainly the media is going to report that, anything outside of a juvenile record so certainly in the court of public arena i think that it is appropriate and its fair that if there are people who have stories to tell about how this officer treated him. If there are Police Officer<\/a>s that have stories to tell about what it was like to ride with him because there are stories as well about what it was like they are not an easy nut to crack, as you know, doesnt mean that the media is not trying to do its job. Youre trying to get it, too. They dont talk very often, reaching out to try to get people to bolster his profile, but thats part of it, too. You want everybodys best food forward. Let me ask you something though. As you look at situation here on the ground theres been a lot made of the injury. I get why it would matter to people, shows that mike brown is a bad guy, how much does it matter in the legal analysis if this was a justified killing . You dont get the Death Penalty<\/a> for hitting a cop. You dont get the Death Penalty<\/a> for shoplifting so it matters. It i mean, it matter in the sense if we look and talk about it and enhance it in a way that it makes certain that mike browns reputation is affected by it, thats problematic, but if we talk about it in terms of what the Police Officer<\/a> did and what the Police Officer<\/a> didnt do then its not. Another point that youve been making, if you want the piece to be maintained everything has to come out so people have confidence and trust that its being done the right way so the more you know the more you can feel its being done the right way. Well all keep going after it. Youre doing a great job. Thank you very much. Let us know when were not getting it right. Criticism from the inside is often helpful. All right. Well take a break here on new day. When we come back, Something Else<\/a> is very high on the concern list. Catching ebola is one of the new fears we have to worry about especially because were told that theres no cure. 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Im thrilled to be alive, to be well and to be reunited with my family. I am forever thankful to god for sparing my life, and im glad for any attention my sickness has attracted to the plight of west africa in the midst of this epidemic. I yelled out loud when i saw how healthy he looked. The other american, Nancy Writebol<\/a> being treatment, she was actually discharged earlier this week. Both writebol and brantly were given an experimental drug that may have saved their lives. I want to bring in somebody very special, an Infectious Disease<\/a> physician. He was part of that team that cared for both patients. Doctor, this is very exciting to speak to you today. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you for having me on. I know every patient to you is very special, but two very, very special patients left your hospital this week and you were part of their care. Tell me about your interactions with them. They were quite they were quite special and it was wonderful to interact with them. I was the physician on call when the unit was activated, when our team was activated and therefore, i had the honor of being the admitting physician for the first patient. And it was quite a great experience, because our team had trained for these sort of activations, these sort of patients for several years and we were finally able to use all of our training to care for two wonderful patients. We were really shocked when we saw those images, very few of us will forget of dr. Kent brantly working under his own power, albeit in the white jump suit, trafd to the hospital. Talk about the recovery, just three weeks in the hospital. I know you cant speak specifically about the treatment they received but give us an idea of the daytoday reality for them when they were in the hospital. Of course. So the patients, once they were admitted to our unit, were able to be monitored by monitoring devices that we use here in american hospitals, such as monitoring their heart rates, their Blood Pressure<\/a>, their oxygenation levels, as well as being able to get laboratories every day on them to monitor their electrolyte levels, kidney and functions and cell count levels in their blood and therefore, we were able to intervene on any abnormalities there very readily, and on a da toy day basis, and therefore able to tailor the care of both patients to their individual needs on that day, which is sometimes hard to do in resourcelimited environments. Thats the point people are making about the scene here in america, as opposed to west africa. Now look, these were two different patients, 33 and i think Nancy Writebol<\/a> was in her 60s, yet they both recovered. We know they both had zmapp. Do you feel that was the key, early sw Early Intervention<\/a> or the aftercare they were getting at emory . Its hard to comment on the effect of any experimental medications. They by nature are experimental and we dont have the day to ascertain what effect they have and how much it influenced the outcome we have in these two patients. Hopefully in the future, there will be additional studies done on this medication as well as other upcoming experimental medications, and well be able to really understand which medications should be used, at what point in time in ebola infection. As dr. Ribner said yesterday during the press conference, we really believe that the aggressive Supportive Care<\/a> that we were able to deliver to the patients was effective in their good outcomes. I also think we had a Wonderful Team<\/a> of physicians, nurses, laboratory personnel, who were all able to intervene to help these patients and i think that was a big part of it. I need to have a real talk with you here for a second. What also amazed us was the fact that all of you were, of course, smiles to see dr. Kent brantly looking so hardy. You hugged him. We have been told how infectious this disease is and how it could be transferred from bodily fluid or whatever. This is a big statement. All of you, all of the physicians, all of the care team hugged him. Theres no chance, theres no chance this virus lingers in him . So he is not at risk to transmit this infection to anyo anyone hes coming in contact with. I dont think we planned the group hug, but it was a really rewarding moment for all of us, and its one of the things we look forward to as physicians, being able to shake hands and hug our patients as theyre recovered and heading home. All of us have families and friends at home, and so if we thought this, either one of these patients were at all a risk to our community we would have kept them in the hospital for longer until they were not at risk but were confident theyre not a risk to anyone. No longterm side effects, we feel confident the both of them will be healthy Going Forward<\/a> . As with any such viral infections, once the patients recover and if they dont have any damage to any organs at the time of recovery, they should go on to a full and healthy life. Wonderful. Dr. Aneesh mehta, thank you so much, joining us from Emory University<\/a> hospital, the int feck, disease unit. Obviously doctors will look to see what they can learn about this Going Forward<\/a> and learn lessons how theyll treat patients in west africa as well. Great Success Story<\/a> there. 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Announcer this is new day with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. Good morning, welcome to new da day. I hope friday is treating you well on this august 22nd, ferguson, missouri, is different this morning. The mood and momentum has shifted, after two weeks of outrage following the Police Shooting<\/a> of Michael Brown<\/a> jr. Kate . Another big development, missouri governor jay nixon is now ordering the National Guard<\/a> to start withdrawing from the town of ferguson, and they are expected to start leaving today. Reporter browns parents are speaking out to cnn as they prepare for their sons funeral on monday. They reveal that the recent violent protests did not help them or their cause. They denounce the violence for shaming their sons name but were now hearing calls for peace and unity, and theres a new focus here on justice and an investigation thats just heating up. Every Commanding Officer<\/a> under him. Reporter overnight in ferguson impassioned prayer, clergy and police hand in hand. God bless you. Reporter protesters now peace marchers lining the streets. As others pause in solemn reflection, leaving roses as part of a makeshift memorial for Michael Brown<\/a> jr. These sounds of calm now set the scene here in ferguson, as Law Enforcement<\/a> begins to pull back. Missouris governor ordering the National Guard<\/a> to gradually draw down. As we see the folks getting calmer, fewer arrests, fewer problems here, that mission, what were going to draw down off that, we dont need the same force strength. Reporter new information clarifies reports about officer Darren Wilsons<\/a> condition after the shooting. Source with detailed knowledge of the investigation tells cnn officer wilson had a swollen face, not a fractured sigh socket as some media were reporting. Meanwhile, new details about Dorian Johnson<\/a>, Michael Brown<\/a>s friend, and the eyewitness to the shooting. According to police documents, johnson was arrested in 2011 for theft, and making a false report to police. Credibility, however, key, especially in assessing testimony, when they hear about the criminal background and the types of crimes involved, do you think it hurts your clients credibility . I think its something they may take into consideration but remember he met with the fbi, the justice department, the prosecutors representative, detective, and at that time, over a week ago, he laid out his whole life to them. They asked him about his criminal background. They asked him about the matter that he had a warrant out against him. He talked to them about it at length and in detail. Reporter now as peaceful memorials take the streets where violent clashes once broke out. We are mike brown. Reporter captain johnson commends the community for another night of calm, a coloring book, box of crayons and sock puppet on display where handguns and molotov cocktails sat just a few days ago. This is what defines a community. This is truly the community of ferguson is what we see on this table today. Reporter and now as you have peace on the streets, you can shift the energy and the focus to the investigation, and the moments leading up to Michael Brown<\/a> jr. s death, are still very much a mystery. We do know what the key moments will be, what happened at the car, what happened in the pursuit of Michael Brown<\/a> jr. , and what caused the officer to shoot and kill him. Now, Michael Brady<\/a> is a young man who has come forward as someone who saw the incident almost from beginning to end. There has been a lot said about what he knows, but it didnt come from him, so we took it step by step to test what he did and did not see and hear. Judge for yourself. First i was inside the house in my ped room and i hear an altercation. I looks out the window and i see some kind of tussling going on at the window. Reporter you see hands going both ways like this . Just in and out the window, because im from like 100 feet away. Reporter can you see the officers face . Not exactly, no. Reporter can you see mike browns face . No, not exactly. Reporter do you ever see the officers hands, excuse me, but up around his neck . No. Reporter do you ever see mike brown do a motion where hes going to lump this cop, hit him . That might have was going to happen, that may be why the tuling was going on. Reporter high voices . High voices. Reporter the chance the officer was punched in the face do you believe there was a chance he was punched in the face . Yeah, thats a possibility. Reporter okay so thats going on as you come and start watching. Now what . Like i said, after the tussling going on in the window, all of a sudden takes off running. Reporter they both take off running. Umhum. Reporter why . Im not even sure why. Im not even sure why. Reporter thats interesting because you know what the speculation is, that there was a gunshot that sent them running. You heard no gunshot . I didnt hear no gunshot in the vehicle. Reporter but for whatever reason you dont hear it. I didnt hear that. Im in the window. Reporter they take off. The little guy goes behind a car . Yeah, his friend, he runs behind a twodoor white car, hides behind the truck looking at the officer thats shooting, watching to make sure the officers not coming towards him. Reporter okay you say thats shooting. So the big guy, mike brown, he takes off running more in a straight direction away . More in a straight direction. Reporter and what is the officer doing . The officer, hes out of his vehicle. Hes most likely now past his own vehicle. Reporter so he is also running . Hes basically taking large steps, not running. Reporter is the weapon out . Yes, has the weapon drawn out. Reporter he has his weapon out as mike brown is definitely running away . With his back turned, yes. Reporter is he talking . Is he yelling . Thats what i dont remember if he was yelling out stop or anything. Reporter but it yyou rememb this and mike brown is faced the other way and theres this. Hes like i said 20 feet down already. Reporter okay. So a taser wouldnt have even touched him. Reporter and then what happens . Hes away from his own Police Cruiser<\/a> and i notice that he walked past the friend that ran reporter doesnt even look at him . Right, he doesnt even look at him. When i gets outside, mike brown, he definitely looked ahead already because now hes facing the officer. Reporter okay lets stop right there. You saw the officer taking large steps, you saw the officer with the weapon drawn. Yes. Reporter he did not fire at that time . No, he fired. He tired. Reporter thats important. He definitely fired. Reporter so mike brown is running away. Yes. Reporter the officer is out of the car. Yes. Reporter the weapon is delaune. Umhum. Reporter and you see and hear him fire at mike brown while he is running away . Yes, umhum. Reporter absolutely . Absolutely. Reporter he is hit, now facing the officer. The officer. Reporter what is the position of the . Er is . The officer still got his gun drawn at a distance, still about 15, 20 feet away. Reporter okay, mike brown is hunched over. Hunched over like this, like he was already shot when i comes outside so now hes facing the officer, i remember him taking two small steps like he was, he was going down anyway, he didnt look like he was going to give up, because he was already hurt. Reporter whats the loaded word . The loaded word is charged. Does the word charged fit what mike brown was doing . Charged . No. Like charge toward the officer . Reporter yes. No, no. Reporter absolutely no way . No, there was no way. There was no way. He was already like this, and the officer took like three or four shots at him, and thats when he went down, just like how he reporter so as hes going in the motion youre describing you see and hear the officer fire again . Yes, before he went down. Reporter to are sure . Yes, before he went down. Reporter what happens . The closest he got to Michael Brown<\/a> other than the window was like five feet after when hes dead, hes standing over him. Reporter is he trying to talk to mike brown . No. Reporter is he trying to assess injuries on mike brown . No. Reporter did his face look beat up . No, it dont. Reporter does he look distressed, does he look upset . He looked kind of lost. Reporter maybe shock or something . Kind of like reporter how many sounds do you think you heard when he was running away and the officer was shooting . Probably, i was thinking of four shots the first time. Reporter there was more than one . Yes. Reporter more than two . Yes. Reporter and then when he was like this, how many . Im thinking four more. Reporter and the only unknown is in that one moment of what you say four, five steps of yours between when mike brown was definitely like this. Right. And like this. Right. Reporter what happened in that moment, you dont know but otherwise youre sure. Right. So what do you make of people coming out and saying the officer says that he charged him . Do you think thats a convenient story . What chance do you think there is that its true . No, it just cant be. Why cant it be . We missed that moment from your own observation. Why do you not believe it . Because of the distance from the officer and mike brown, because you know, the 25, 20, 30 feet. So your point is you didnt see it, but in the time that you covered the distance, you dont think it was enough time for mike brown, that distance from the officer to get that much more . I dont think so. Reporter all right now remember, im testing this as an attorney for what you would see as this gets brought into trial, so kate, heres what we know. What does he not provide . He doesnt see how it starts, irrelevant. He sees what happens at the car, he sees if theres a hit in the face relevant, he sees the pursuit of Michael Brown<\/a> and actually firing highly relevant and troubling. The moment he misses, though, and its so odd, he sees so much, but he doesnt see the one thing that may matter the most, in the time that it took him, Michael Brady<\/a>, to travel from one room to the next, which is just moments, he doesnt see what made Michael Brown<\/a> jr. Stop from this motion and come back to where he was facing the officer, and thats where you get into the charge versus turn to surrender, and thats going to be a very important moment of analysis, but other than that, he is a very powerful witness. Hes been interviewed a lot by different agencies, and hes expected to be used even more. Interviewed by a lot of agencies, and all of this comes in the context of this is all going to be going, is going to go before the grand jury, thats the first step, and then this all becomes as youre talking about relevant or not, if this goes to trial, all of this important to remember in the context youre offering, chris. Well get back to chris on the ground in ferguson, doing great reporting, of course, for all of us. Lets turn now to a disturbing warning from the pentagon, though, about the terror group isis. Secretary of defense chuck hagel sounding the alarm days after american james foley was beheaded by the militants. During a press briefing hagel stressed that the u. S. Needs to take a cold, steely, hard look at isis, and also, he said, get ready, and as u. S. Air strikes on isis targets continue in iraq, the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, Martin Dempsey<\/a>, warns defeating the terror group will not be possible unless its presence in syria is addressed. Cnns pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr<\/a> has much more for us live from the pentagon. Good morning, barbara. Good morning, kate, alarming words from the pentagon leadership. Where are we on all of this . Officials tell me all options remain on the table for how to deal with isis, but it is not yet clear whether that would include u. S. Air strikes inside syria. As isis continues its murdering rampage, alarming words from the u. S. Secretary of defense about the threat the group poses to americans. Oh, this is beyond anything that weve seen, so we must prepare for everything, and the only way do you that is you take a cold, steely, hard look at it, and get ready. But ready for what . U. S. Officials insist there are no isis sleeper cells in the u. S. Right now, but u. S. Intelligence agencies are worried some americans fighting with isis overseas could come back to this country and carry out attacks. Theyre beyond just a terrorist group. They marry ideology, sophistication of strategic and tactical military prowess. They are tremendously wellfunded. This is an organization that has an apocalyptic end of days Strategic Vision<\/a>, and which will eventually have to be defeated. Can they be defeated without addressing that part of their organization which resides in syria . The answer is no. That will have to be addressed on both sides of what is essentially at this point a nonexistent border. For now, u. S. Military strategy remains limited to air strikes inside iraq, not in syria, isis home base. But there has been the first u. S. Military mission into syria with the acknowledgment of a failed july 4th raid to rescue james foley and other american hostages. The pentagon insists it wasnt an intelligence failure. In intelligence doesnt come wrapped in a package with a bow. It is a mosaic of many pictures, of many factors. So again, where are we on all of this . Some officials are saying the next step could possibly be stepped up u. S. Air strikes in iraq against isis positions. The intelligence they say is showing that the air strikes that have been conducted are having some effect on isis positions and isis personnel inside iraq, but still the major strongholds, the home base of isis across the border in syria. Kate . And barbara, the pentagon spokesman saying earlier on the show that yes, all options they are looking at all options, though. He would not go into further detail what those options include at this moment. Barbara starr at the pentagon, thanks so much, barbara. Michaela, a look at other headlines . 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Welcome back to new day. A night of calm in ferguson, missouri, as important issues develop in the Michael Brown<\/a> shooting investigation including questions surrounding the credibility of the key witness, the key eyewitness, browns friend, Dorian Johnson<\/a>, and whether officer Darren Wilson<\/a> was injured. How seriously was he injured in his reported struggle with Michael Brown<\/a>. Source has told cnn that wilson did not suffer a fractured eye socket, despite others, some reporting that. Lets bring in sunny hostin, cnn analyst and former prosecutor and mark geragos defense attorney and cnn analyst. Lets start with the account, not the account of Dorian Johnson<\/a>. The cop supposedly had a broken eye socket. Thats second. You leave this, when you sit in this chair, you start the segment. We can change seats. You want to do it . I just want to know one thing, how many times i love it when the cops always say i have an injury, im injured off duty, its always that same b. S. That theyve got. This is he had a swollen face. In 90 of thehe cases. First it was a socket injury, now were hearing maybe just a swollen face, maybe he was treated the at the hospital, maybe not. I dont know that we can put too much stock in that. You cant because thats usually, they concoct that, the cops always concoct that and thats the reason they get a i dont know they always concoct that. For this argument, for the matter of argument here, if he had, if it was, i dont know how you describe, definition of fracture. Swollen or the definition of serious injury is but if he had a swollen face, is that important . Yes. Yes, thats important because he has to show that his, that he didnt use excessive force, that he was in fear for his life, eminent danger or Great Bodily Injury<\/a> or death, but i dont really think that that is what this issue turns on. I think the case really turns on whether or not the eyewitnesses testimony will be found credible and what has been troubling to me, quite frankly, is the new narrative out there that you cant trust any of the eyewitness testimony. Ive heard at least five eyewitnesses to this shooting and theyre not different. Theyre all saying the same thing that Dorian Johnson<\/a> is saying. Theyre saying that there was some sort of struggle at the car. This is the argument that youre going to hear from the prosecutors. Its true. The defense is going to have a field day with the witnesses. You really think theyre going to have a field day . The defense will have a field day with the witnesses. The biggest problem for the defense in this case is not so much the witnesses, its the number of shots. The number of shots is really troubling. I mean, if im defending this officer, i can do, ive got no problem if theres only two shots. Six shots is a real problem in this case. Its a problem especially, though, mark, when you have in conjunction with that five, at least five at this point, eyewitnesses whose stories in my view are basically identical. You know why the officer off lawyer is not going to worry about that . This is the prosecutors Worst Nightmare<\/a> you can tell me, you have all of these guys being taped. Doing interviews. Doing interviews and everything else, thats a prosecutors Worst Nightmare<\/a>. Theyre all saying the same thing. There are inconsistencies you can exploit. If they could be exploited they would be. They absolutely will be exploited. There really arent inconsistencies. What the prosecutor always says. The story with the witnesses is there was a struggle at the police car. Michael brown starts running away with Dorian Johnson<\/a>. How do you deal with Dorian Johnson<\/a> . He gets his hands up and continues to be shot. That narrative is the same. How do you deal with fordori johnson . The fact his past is coming up . It would be troubling if his story was markedly different from the four other witnesses in the fight. It makes him more credible. I dont think thats true and ill tell you why. Dorian johnson is an essential witness for the prosecution. No matter what everybody else says. Because he was there. He was there, he knows what happened before, during and after and hes the only guy who does. The fact that hes got a history of giving false statements is going to play large, but ult ma thely whats going to happen is, ultimately whats going to happen is if they file a case there will be so much squirmishing over had this. His attorneys say his past has nothing to do with it. It does not nothing to do with it. Youre going to keep it out . Maybe not but he has one incident of filing a false police report. It will be brought up if theres a trial. Theres no way theyll be able to keep that out, no way. It doesnt matter because all of the other eyewitness stories are completely consistent. Mark, what are you talking about that you think if theres an indictment, if an indictment comes down, the officer will argue that the process has now been completely tainted because of the pressure to bring criminal charges. Yes, that will be the first challenge legally is that if the grand jury indicts f the grand jury had too much pressure, when you have even if that indictment doesnt come until midoctober, november . Absolutely because theyre going to say the process is tainted, the fact that youve got the attorney general there, the fact that theyre going to argue every time somebody says we need justice, that means we need an indictment, we need criminal charges, that theyre teledwr telegraphing that, the people think if i dont bring an indictment theres going to be a riot. How does the county prosecutor deal with that. I agree with mark. The bottom line its a prosecutor that brings cases and the prosecutor in this case didnt need to bring this in front of a grand jury. Bottom line they could have just chose on it charge. I think what is fascinating is that the prosecutor, quite frankly, even kept this case. This is a case that really screams for a special prosecutor. It really, i think, sort of watered down all the tensions in sanford when you had angela corey come in and thats what should have happened here. What people dont remember is this same issue came up during o. J. They started in front of the grand jury. The argument was at that time they went to the judge, who was supervising the grand jury and said, you cant do this in front of a grand youjury. Theres too much publicity and pressure. Bob shpi row ended up doing the preliminary hearing. The same argument has been made before and it would surprise me i think that the prous coup theor has got a real problem here. I dont understand, it makes no sense to me and god forbid that i agree with sunny, but i feel terrible we agree. Im cringing. Were both cringing. I do understand, its a copout to go to the grand jury. Sure. You can then say because the prosecutor can get a grand jury to do anything i want. If i wanted to indict your unborn baby i could do it, but in front of a grand jury. Admit it. Sunny true. The prosecutor can get the grand jury to indict, he can get them not to indict and if they dont indict, what is he going to say . I let the people decide. What can they do now . The grand youry jury is he should step aside. And have a special prosecutor assigned and go about bringing charges. We have no suggestion that will be the case and the governor said he is hands off. Can we also agree on one other thing . Yes. This governor is really, is really not ready for prime time. What do you mean . Why . Because the governor is the one that makes the choice whether or not to assign a special prosecutor and relieve this prosecutor of his duties and hes not doing that. I think hes handled this just abysmally. Improper. Yes. All right. We agree i know, twice in one day. Were just going to end it right there. Guys great to see you. Welcome back from vacation even though you could barely take it because we had you on all the time. Coming up next on new day, much more come out of ferguson, well hear from Michael Brown<\/a>s mother as she describes the moment that she learned to her son had been killed, her tearful, very emotional but very important interview coming up. Also this, hamas reports it has executed several people suspected of being israeli informants, they say. Is it retaliation for deadly air strikes . [announcer] play closegood and close. Help keep teeth clean and breath fresh with beneful healthy smile snacks. With soft meaty centers and teeth cleaning texture,its dental that tastes so good. Beneful healthy smile food and snacks. A sense of calm returning to ferguson, missouri, about two weeks after a Police Officer<\/a> shot and killed Michael Brown<\/a>. Missouris governor now ordering the National Guard<\/a> to start withdrawing. A new warning from u. S. Defense officials about the terror group isis. Defense secretary chuck hagel says isis poses an eminent threat to the United States<\/a>, saying this is beyond anything we have seen. Ukraine security chief is calling it a direct invasion, 34 trucks carrying humanitarian aid have crossed the border into Eastern Ukraine<\/a>, 90 more are on the way, but without being escorted by the red cross as adwreed up agreed upon. The government says the army swap for Bowe Bergdahl<\/a> was illegal citing a lack of congressional notice and unauthorized use of funds. Texas governor rick perry will be arraigned in austin today on charges of abuse of official capacity and coercion of a public servant. Perry maintains that hes done nothing wrong. Instead he will be 2,000 miles away in New Hampshire<\/a>. We update the five things to know so visit newdaycnn. Com for the latest. Kate . Thanks, michaela. To the middle east where hamas reports it has executed 18 suspected israeli informants. It comes just one day after israeli air strikes killed three hamas commanders. The militants warned israel will pay the price for their deaths. Cnns karl penhaul is live in jerusalem with more. What more are you learning . Reporter kate, hamas made that aunnoment a short while ago over hits tvsation, the al aqsa tv station. The 18 they described as collaborators had been judged by a revolutionary court. It didnt go into the weight of evidence it was against these people but it said they were executed by firing squad. It said that hamas blamed them for collaborating with the israelis effectively spying for israel, that it led to a number of hamas military operations having to be aborted and the destruction of homes and infrastructure. It made no direct link to the death of three senior hamas military commanders in a predawn israeli air strike on thursday, but of course, this is a stark warning to any potential spies in the midst of gaza, that this is the fate that will befall them if they dare to collaborate with israel. Also in another news while hamas is continuing to fire rockets towards israel, and that has led to the suspension of israels planned start of the soccer season, and also the International Airport<\/a> on high alert in case of any rocket attacks there. Kate . The quiet of just what was just days ago with the ceasefire and the talks continuing in cairo now absolutely shattered it seems. Karl in jerusalem, thanks. Coming up next on new day, an emotional interview with Michael Brown<\/a>s parents. They talk with Anderson Cooper<\/a> about their loss and also the justice that they want for the officer who shot him. That are acidic. 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His mother and father are unquestioned victims in this situation, and they sat down with Anderson Cooper<\/a> to talk about losing a son who was about to leave for college, and what the outrage and all that has followed has done to help and hurt and what justice they seek now. This is obviously every parents Worst Nightmare<\/a>. Mike, how do you get through each day . I dont. I just glide through, you know. Unless i see him physically moving around in my life, thats a heartbreaker to are me, its painful. I just i cant really explain how i really feel about this. You know . Leslie, does it seem real . Nope. It still doesnt . How are you getting through each day . Prayer. And support. You both met with the attorney general yesterday, eric holder. How was that . What did he say to you . He just kind of talked to us from a man with kids his self perspective. He talked to you as a parent . Yes. Yes. Did it help . It helped me. Because he has our support, you know . Hes supporting us, and he said hes not going to stop, hes going to help us all the way through. Did it make a difference that he came here, that he looked you in the eye, that he met with you privately . Yes. Yes. It did to me. In what way . Because you can read a person and when you looking at them and they looking at you and your eyes, it puts some trust back there that you lost, and he di. , do you believe, do you have confidence in the investigation . Up until yesterday, i didnt. You didnt. But just hearing the words coming directly from his mouth, facetoface, he made me feel like one day i will, and im not saying today or yesterday, but one day theyll regain my trust. The grand jury just started yesterday. Yes. We learned it may not be until october that they come up with a decision about what theyre going to do. Obviously you want answers now. Right. Are you ready to, are you able to wait . Yes, i want everything to i dont want a rush judgment. I want everyone to take they time so there wont be no mistakes and get it done right. You talked publicly about justice. You want justice. For you, what is justice for your son . For this guy to go to jail. So we could have some type of peace. Hes still Walking Around<\/a> with pay, thats not, its not fair to us. You know . Were hurt. Aint no telling what hes doing but he has his life. Our son is gone. Did you actually go to the scene . Yes. That terrible day . Yes. Did you see your son . Well, when i got, when we arrived, he was covered up, so i didnt see him how other people seen him laying in the street. Did it upset you that he was left out for so long . Yes. Did that, is that something that still upsets you . Yes. We couldnt even see him. They wouldnt let us see them. They just left him out there, four and a half hours. With no answers, nobody tell us nothing. Leslie, were you there as well . Umhum. Yep. I cant imagine as a parent standing there as the hours tick by. Right. 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As prominent civil rights leaders descend upon ferguson to protest the shooting death of Michael Brown<\/a>, many have asked who are the civil rights leaders for the next generation, the new generation, dare i say, the Younger Generation<\/a> . Here to discuss some under the radar candidates who already are making a big impact, carlos watson, making an impact of his own, cofounder and editor of ozzie. Com. We like to look forward and think about what the next steps are, right . Right, indeed. You brought some names to us. I did and whats interesting is there may not be classic civil rights leaders whether we think about dr. King or reverend jackson or others. We have the attorney general of california. Shes a bit of a rock star in california. President obama tipped his cap to her a number of times. Number of folks said if eric holder were to retire after the 2014 election she could be the next attorney general. We know how important that person can be in pursuing justice. Female and interesting diverse pack ground. Mother, indian, professor of law, shes been very active on Police Brutality<\/a> issues for quite a well, first in San Francisco<\/a> and now as californias 32nd attorney general. Also not afraid of taking on the big banks and the mortgage industry. That was interesting to watch bank of america giving back billions of dollars to homeowners. You could argue she drove that in many ways, it was her lawsuit along with other state leaders that helped kick it off. If someone is willing to wade into big issues, housing or administration Kamala Harris<\/a> might be one of them. Phow about lupe very welalde. Youre hard to impress. Shes the single most impressive person ive met in the last 20 years bar none including a couple of president s. She defines beating the odds, a group of Migrant Workers<\/a> walk to school was a c student, made her way through, ultimately went on to graduate school, became a Senior Leader<\/a> in the dea and even the department of homeland security, gave it all up a year before having a full pension to run for sheriff of dallas county. Now, she wasnt just running for sheriff of dallas county. She was running a am works latina, open lesbian. Im not talking about in San Francisco<\/a>, im talking in dallas, she won and in her third term now. Talk about being a change agent from the inside, the importance there. I think look, when we talk about issues of Police Brutality<\/a> and obviously the jury is still out in this case but we know there are a whole suite of cases here, i think were clearly going to need leaders and Law Enforcement<\/a> to be a part of it. It wont just be people from the outside, but people on the inside, like lupe valdez. My next candidate, its yours, i like to pretend they are because i control the wall. Jeffrey canada. I touch the nose and tell us more about this man who is making big changes. Without a doubt. Immortalized in the film waiting for superman here in harlem, a native of the bronx, jeffrey canada has said its not only important to help our children with education, he started with a small area in harlem and expanded it to about 100 blocks, working with over 10e,000 students but he said if we get our students through high school and on to college and this program has about a 95 success rate in getting kids accepted to college, he said thats not enough. He said there have to be jobd in the neighborhood. Sure. He said there have to be safety and roads that work and services that come together and its a real Overall Community<\/a> empowerment approach and one thats important. What youve seen is that the harlem renaissance, the new harlem renaissance is built upon the, that he did. The key here is can he replicate is to other areas. President obama is betting that he can, jeff just stepped down after 20 plus years as ceo, and president obama just a couple years ago said i hope we can take the harlem model and take it to about 20 cities around the country. He could help in a bunch of places. I want to talk about education and ports of education. This fellow here, you hear about stories like this in hollywood, gangster. Harvard econ professor now. From that to that . Tenured at 30, graduated from college two and a half years. Roland fryer, progrardon me. He was named a macarthur genius. He said let me apply it to schools and help some of the poorest children around the country by adding more tutors, more longer school days. s grrr i have is. Getting kids excited. A lot of professors talk about ideas, there are a handful that actually implement. The president of the United States<\/a> today is a former professor, but roland has been given control of about a couple dozen schools in houston and denver, so rather than just talk about it, hes being asked to show results. What i love what hes done, too, hes taken these existing schools, didnt shut them down but basically started from it the ground up, and implemented aggressive changes to get them to be Top Performing<\/a> schools. Heres whats important, hes been working with not only the superintendent in these two places, the Teachers Union<\/a> and often so much of the challenge for helping some of our kids in the poorest neighborhoods is that theres been a battle often between the Charter Schools<\/a> and the Teachers Union<\/a> or between socalled reformers and the Teachers Union<\/a> but rolands one of the few able to bridge the gap and weve got to watch his experiment because its that kind of thing that will give opportunities to a lot of our kids. Youve had the sense of getting to know these people in doing the research. Yes. What is a common factor, they dont take no for an answer, or they just have Unlimited Energy<\/a> . What do you think the common factor is here . I bet you at least three things. One is that they all seem to care and care deeply and care in a very personal way that wont allow them just to follow the rules. Number two is that all of them to some extent have this some personal experience with noting with the conventional choice so i think theyve had a greater openness and third i think all of them have not just had mentors but really good supporters, people i like to call angels, jeffrey canada has been the biggest angel and supporter and mentor for roland fryer, just as an example. I appreciate that. I always get a handshake instead of a hug. I try not to give you my germs. Now you got them, too. Its friday, ive got a weekend recovery. Im good. Im good. My man right here. Good laugh. Good to see you. We have to keep looking forward and keep striving for change. Indeed. Coming up in the midst of this weeks chaos between Police Protesters<\/a> in Ferguson Well<\/a> share about a group of volunteers that really stood out trying to make their town a better place. Ooh, this week we need some good stuff, boy do we have it. , we hh fraud protection. We monitor every purchase every day and alert you if anything looks unusual. Wow youre really looking out for us. We are. And if there are unauthorized purchases on your discover card, youre never held responsible. Just to be clear, you are saying frog protection right . Yeah, fraud protection. Frog protection. Fraud protection. Frog. Fraud. Frog. Fraud. I think were on the same page. Were totally on the same page. At discover, we treat you like youd treat you. Fraud protection. Get it at discover. Com we need a good stuff more than anything. We have been reporting on the angst, distrust in ferguson, missouri. In chaos we also know that we can find order and thats where the good folks from the church of god and christ urban Initiative Come<\/a> in. During this weeks protest they got up bright and early before the birds to do their part to restore order to the streets, cleaning up the mess from the night before caused by the protesting that we know at times turned violent. We have what we call opportunists that came out and theyre littering and destroying property, but we want to show the community that were here to support them. Vital to point out these folks arent doing it alone. No, they had members of the missouri Highway Patrol<\/a> joining in the effort to keep ferguson clean, a striking picture of Law Enforcement<\/a> and civilians working together, inspiring hope in a place that needs so much of it especially now. Kind of the perfect way of showing what a mess that weve been watching unfold and theyre doing their little part to try to pick it up. Absolutely. We have to remain focused on that, building together. We were just talking about that, exactly right. A lot of people are doing just that. It has been good but a long week. We hope you had a good one. Thank you for joining us. Well hand you over to the capable hands of our friend Carol Costello<\/a> in the newsroom. Thanks so much. Have a great weekend. Newsroom starts now. Home and the calamity a quiet night in ferguson as new questions emerge about one of the key witnesses to the shooting. Will someones past throw the Missouri Town<\/a> back into chaos . Plus sleeping in america, the terrorist group isis, new details on their threats. Do they have cells right here in the United States<\/a> . New questions and new concerns. There are fighters with western passports coming into our way. Lets talk, live in in cnn newsroom. Captions by vitac www. Vitac. Com good morning, im Carol Costello<\/a>. Thank you so much for joining me. We do begin in ferguson, missouri, where Dorian Johnson<\/a>, the young man who was with Michael Brown<\/a> when he was shot and killed by officer Darren Wilson<\/a> finds himself under knew scrutiny. The 2011 mug shot is surfacing along with revelations he was busted in 2011 for theft and","publisher":{"@type":"Organization","name":"archive.org","logo":{"@type":"ImageObject","width":"800","height":"600","url":"\/\/ia804507.us.archive.org\/19\/items\/CNNW_20140822_100000_New_Day\/CNNW_20140822_100000_New_Day.thumbs\/CNNW_20140822_100000_New_Day_000001.jpg"}},"autauthor":{"@type":"Organization"},"author":{"sameAs":"archive.org","name":"archive.org"}}],"coverageEndTime":"20240617T12:35:10+00:00"}