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>> reporter: actions are speaking far louder than words right now, kate, and rockets are flying. in the three hours, four hours in fact since that truce was supposed to kick in. hamas and its allies, islamic jihad, have fired 20 rockets skywards towards israel and that being confirmed by the israeli military. moments before we were to come to hour, i guess with two miles down that direction, we saw a single rocket arcing its way towards israel. now, israel, yes, initially did accept this egyptian proposal and said it was prepared to call a truce in its nine-day offensive on the gaza strip, but also in the last hour or so across that way towards northern gaza we've seen two plumes of smoke rising up in the air there. that is an indication to me that israel has retaliated with a couple of air strikes there. the israeli military so far though, not confirming that they have attacked new targets once again in the north of the strip here. also in the last few moments israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu saying that if hamas rejects this offer of a truce, then that gives him international authority to come in here and take measures, all the means he sees fit to try and degrade hamas' capabilities to try to stop them firing any more rockets into israel. back to you, chris. >> all right, karl so netanyahu is saying more. if peace is the aspiration peace is the immediate goal. egypt was the best hope. let's bring in our contributing editor from "atlantic media" and senior fellow for the new american foundation. peters, let's set the stage here. proportionality obviously the big thing when there's conflict. israel yesterday mistakenly reported that there will h been deaths in israel. none so far. some reports of light carpal tis, accurate? >> right. >> now, on the other side from the ministry of health there, close to 200 deaths, 1,400 injured, many women, children, civilians, schools supposedly damaged. it takes us to the issue of proportion proportionality. how does that play here? >> right, this is always the problem for israel. israel does send leaflets and phone people in order to get them to leave their building so as to order to try not to kill innocent civilians but gaza is a very heavily crowded place and when you launch all of these missiles, a very intense a raj by israel, more intense than in previous conflicts, you'll kill a lot of innocent people and that undermines israel on the world. on the other hand, israel has a very effective iron dome program and the hamas rockets are very inaccurate and primitive so every conflict like this, we've seen a huge disparity in death toll. >> and reading a lot of the israeli commentary on this. the question of don't forget who started this comes back. is that a legitimate question to ask, and is the answer that gaza started this, that hamas started this? >> it's always complicated. what happened, remember, go back to the kidnapping of these three israeli teenagers. benjamin netanyahu accused hamas and then launched a major operation against hamas, including re-arresting prisoners who israel had released. hamas saw that as an unfair attack upon them because they claimed they weren't behind the kidnapping, at least not hamas' central leadership. israel had said they, and that was the context that led to us this rocket fire so it's often hard to decide where to really begin. >> but it's important because for a lot of our audience they are coming to this fresh. >> right. >> exactly why is this happening. by taking that one step back we can now get to where we are right now, cease-fire. we thought egypt was the right broker. certainly it worked under morsi, waiting to see what happened under al cece. tell us about that. >> there's an egyptian government with a much more hostile relationship. remember, mohamed morsi was from the muslim brotherhood. >> why are they seen as best hope? >> because they have the capacity to enforce the checkpoint in rafa that connects the gaza strip to egypt, very important to both hamas and israel. hamas desperately wants that open. it's their lifeline to the world but israel sees egypt as having the ability to stop rockets from coming through that checkpoint. that's what gives egypt the unique leverage. >> and on the other side it was hamas to look to the u.s. to having unusual leverage with israel but now we have on both sides trouble. netanyahu says i don't think -- in effect, i don't think a two-state solution is going to work. we'll hold on to the west bank, and secretary kerry is saying i'm not going over there yet. what does this mean? >> in an era in which the united states has diminished leverage in the middle east. >> because? >> because of the iraq war, which weakened us, because we were not able to succeed in the peace process and also because were now trying to deal with all of these crises, look at john ker kerry's travel schedule, afghanistan almost falling apart, iran falling apart, syria still totally out of control and american's bandwidth is not that great and that's what you're seeing here as well. >> the idea that a two-state solution is off the table, do you buy that? >> this i think is a very important and underreported development. benjamin netanyahu's comments here saying on friday that because of this israel can never give back security control over the west bank. i understand his concern, security concerns. there is a very frightening kind of regionalism kags right now, but if israel is going to permanently control the west bank, then you're going to have a one-state solution that as john kerry and barack obama have repeatedly said will lead to israel having control over millions of people who lack citizenship or right to vote or it's the end of a jewish state and that's a very grim scenario i think. >> does not sound like a peaceful one. >> and i think it will be a recipe sadly for future war. >> and to just review what's most recently reported, gaza still firing rockets and now reports from ken penhaul, that they have now offered a cease-fire. >> also following more news this morning out of russia. at last ten people are dead after a moscow subway train derailed in the middle of rush hour. emergency officials say 120 more have been injured, some 50 of them critical. phil black is live with more from the scene. what is happening? alo is developing as we speak. >> reporter: subway accidents in this city are almost almost ominous news because recently they have been triggered by terror attacks. not so this time, according to russian officials. they are saying it was just a derailment. not saying what the cause was. the human cost, at least ten dead. officials expect that to rise. 120 injured, most in hospital and 50 really fighting for their lives right now, and the rescue operation is still going on underground behind me where emergency workers here have told us there is at least one person still trapped that they are trying to get to. they think there could be more there as well. so a significant accident striking here. not a terror attack, which is good news, but any sort of disruption to the moscow metro system is significant. incredibly busy. carries as many as 10 million passengers a day. kate? >> amazing, when you see pictures coming out of there looks like the trains are piled up on top of each other. phil, we'll get back to you. phil black on the scene. thank you very much. the nfl is dealing with a federal drug probe this morning. the dea launching an investigation into the alleged abuse of prescription medications. it follows a class action suit by former nfl players claiming the league failed to warn them about possible long-term effects from painkillers and other powerful drugs that they were given so that they could stay in the game. susan candiotti is following the developments for us. susan? >> reporter: hi, kate, first the concussion lawsuit settlement and now this. the dea is starting to take a hard look at which drugs and many that are being doled out to nfl players by doctors and asking can it be justified tackling what players claim is a huge problem that's taking its toll on them. pain is part of the game, and so are drugs to make that pain hurt less. hydrocodone, valium, percodone and now federal agents want to know are nfl players getting illegal painkillers and other powerful drugs to keep them on the field and in the game? >> here's anti-inflammatories, you need some help sleeping, here's sleeping pills. >> reporter: cnn has learned the drug enforcement administration is investigating whether team doctors and trainers can document pills they are prescribing, looking for records of physical exams and authorized prescriptions of all those powerful drugs. jeremy newbury played for the 49ers, raiders and chargers. >> they are handing out this stuff all together and then, you know, a lot of times you're on a team plane and washing it down with beer. >> reporter: newbury is one of the named plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit filed in may. the suit says he suffers from kidney failure, high blood pressure and violent headaches as a result of drugs he took while in the nfl. the suit accuses the leaving handing out pills without prescriptions and no warnings about risk of addiction or drug interactions. to coat, keep the nfl's flood of dollars flowing. in part the d.e.a.'s investigation stems from that lawsuit which also claims former chicago bears quarterback jim mcmahon was put on a cocktail of drugs, taking up to 100 percocets per month. >> in the nfl there is this need to get men back on field as quickly as possible, and any decision that isn't able to do that for team that they are employed by could be replaced. >> reporter: former nfl running back jamaal anderson told cnn in may it's tough for players to just say no. >> you can't make the club in the tub. you don't want to necessarily be known as a guy that will be hurt. >> reporter: when the suit was first filed, the nfl does not respond to cnn's request for comment. we asked them to tell us what they wanted to about the dea investigation, and their senior vp of communications told me we're unaware of any such investigation. michaela. >> curious reaction. susan, thanks so much for that report. appreciate it. 12 minutes past the hour. a look at more your headlines. the united nations has pulled its staff out of libya as violence there intensifies. a militia shelled tripoli airport destroying 80% of the planes parked there and damage the control tower with several rockets. more than a dozen people have been killed in fighting in benghazi and tripoli since sunday. in the meantime, a suspect in the 2012 terror attack has been found dead. they say his body was found in an eastern libyan city. more stunning allegations against the v.a., a veterans affairs whistleblower says workers in philadelphia altered dates on disability claims. kristin rule told the house veterans committee they were changed by years in some cases to make it appear they were being processed faster. the agency inspector general testified nearly $400 million in improper payments could be sent out because the rush to satisfy claims is happening without verifying medical records. prosecutors are wrapping their obstruction case against a college friend of dzhokhar tsarnaev and releasing a new video of the accused boston marathon bombing, seen him walking into a gym with a man currently on trial. he's accused of taking evidence from tsarnaev's dorm room and throwing it away. tsarnaev is awaiting charges on marathon bombing charges. and a survivor has announced the birth of their daughter. a message posted on his facebook page says that the baby's name is nora. everyone is happy and healthy. you'll recall he was the young man at the finish line when the bombs went off. he very well became a symbol of inspiration after that tragedy and proof that life goes on, and the birth they now have to celebrate baby nora. >> always beautiful to have a baby come into your life. i remember after 9/11, very different situation obviously, but babies that were born during 9/11, diane sawyer, i was at abc news tet, they followed those kids for years and years to show how they would grow through that experience and be different, and, you know, i got married two months after 9/11, such a desperation to have something good happen after something bad. great for that family. that baby will mean a lot more to much more than even you. >> welcome nora. >> the weather ain't a happy one. look at the map. should be filled with little yellow circles called the sun. however, instead, you're seeing it for yourself, cold, that "l," means low pressure, rain, violent wind, downpours, damaging hail, all threatening millions across the country, and just as this unusual blast of blue you see there is roving in. last night heavy rain washed out parts of the countries from the rockies to the northeast, so, let's get to meteorologist jennifer gray in for indra petersons. do me a favor, tell us why this is happening and then what's going to happen. >> well, we have a cold front, and that's what's basically calling that cooler air to filter in. it's caused a lot of these storms, and a large portion of the country is dealing with this. it's having an impact because of this front. today the focus is going to be in the northeast, d.c., new york, philly, all the way up into the northeast. large hail and damaging winds. a slight chance of a few isolated tornadoes, but the main threat today will be the large hail and damaging winds. i know you are sick and tired of the rain but guess what's it's still going to impact you. going to have flood watches in effect all the way through. possibility of 2 to 4 inches possible through thursday and this is for boston all the way down through new york, a possible 2 to 3 inches as you head down to d.c. so this is through the next couple of days. but behind that front, the cooler air filtering in. temperatures on the chilly side this morning, believe it or not. middle of july, chicago waking up in the 40s and bismarck and rapid city, mar get 45, today and 43 tomorrow. guess what, chris and kate. chicago, today, you'll only get up to around 70 degrees. >> as george howell pointed out, chicago, they have a pretty short summer, he was hoping that it turns around quickly. thanks, jennifer. >> when 70 is the downside, you're in good shape. >> on lake shore drive, kind of perfect. >> take 70 all day. >> coming up next on "new day," the border crisis. more and more children being held in processing centers along the border and really in various places in the country. their futures uncertain. we'll talk to a republican congressman who had an inside look at one of these detention centers, a look that not many people have been able to get. >> a star-studded new ad honoring derek jeter, aka the captain. we'll show you the clip that has everyone talking, even sox fans. that's "the bleacher 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(soothing sound of a shower) with millions of reviews, tripadvisor makes any destination better. but you're not done. capella university can help take your career even further, with the most direct path to your point "c". capella university. start your journey at capella.edu. welcome back. the first group of undocumented women and children from the recent surge have been deported back to hundred dras. officials say this was just the beginning of more deportations to come as the u.s. tries to stem the flood of migrants coming from central america. still, future of tens of thousands of children being held in processing centers remains uncertain. republican congressman jim bridenstine of oklahoma, you were able to get a look at one of these intention centers where many of these women and children are being held after some back and forth as we talked earlier this month. you were able to get in. what did you see? >> well, i think that the concerns that a lot of us have were validated. a lot of these children had been abused on the way to the united states, and i'm not talking about a small number. a significant percentage of them. they didn't give me, you know, specific numbers as far as the percentage, but they did say it was a good portion. and, of course, the big concern i have as well is who are the children being released to once they are in these detention centers. the facility i was at had released over 500 children, and those children in many cases are going to sponsors that are illegal aliens in our country currently, and, of course, when you're trying to get a criminal background check on someone who is in our country illegally, and in many cases they are from countries, you know, where they don't keep good record on folks, it's very difficult to find out who these children are going to. and, of course, a lot of these children were brought to the united states by coyotes and transnational criminal organizations in northern mexico. there are friends and relatives here in the united states illegally, paid the coyotes or criminal organizations to traffic those children here, and then ultimate ly these children are sometimes going to sponsors that have been involved in that kind of activity. this is devastating. the ones -- i'll tell you this. this is an important point. the ones that actually made it to the united states are the lucky ones. there are a lot of people who don't make it here. they end up dying on the way or in some cases put into forced labor, forced prostitution or sold in the slave trade, so we've got to deal with this situation in a very seriousious w way. >> absolutely. as the surge has been coming in, the concern is they don't have space or the staff and personnel to care for these children once they have made it over while they are being processed. what were the conditions like in the facilities? >> inside the facility i was impressed with the staff. i was impressed with the quality of care. they had over 80 medical professionals there, they had numerous counts of scabies and other children, and they had those children quarantined. they are taking it very, very seriously and i think they are doing very good work to make sure that the children are cared for. that's what most of us are worried about. certainly the ft. sill facility is one of the better ones in the country. that's the one that i visited. i've heard there are others that they don't have nearly as good accommodations as the ones as the children at ft. sill have. but there's a lot of children there, not a whole lot of space, but it seemed like they were comfortable. they were being well taken care of and medical professionals were taking it very seriously. you were able to talk to at least some of the children that were there. what did they tell you? >> well, it was interesting. you know, the translator, you know, announced something, and i don't speak spanish so i didn't know what it was, and all of a sudden the children just started clapping, and i was surprised to see that, and i said what did you say? they said that you're a member of congress and you're here to check on their well-being, and i was impressed to see that -- that the children understood that and they were pleased to see that officials at the federal level are taking a very detailed interest in this operation. >> did you speak to any one of them? did one of them tell you a story that is sticking with you after you left? >> well, through the translators they told stories of how they got here. a lot of them were brought, you know, by traffickers, coyotes or some kind of person who was paid to bring them here. some of them just came on their own which in many cases is even more dangerous. one of the challenges we have to communicate here is that, you know, people talk about the crime in honduras, the crime in el salvador. it is far more dangerous to pay a transnational criminal organization to traffic your child or your friend or relative to the united states than it is for them to stay at home, and -- and these organizations, these criminal organizations in northern mexico, because we have, you know, an insecure border on our side, they have taken control of it on the southern side. >> congressman, let me also ask you because we're running short on time, i want to get into a couple different things. you spoke with the children and it does strike you not really many people have been able to get into these facilities to see these conditions. it's become very political and partisan. it's one thing to maybe say on house floor send them all back. it's probably something very different to be faced with those little faces and to see what they are going through and to hear their stories. did you speak to them? did you convey to them that you want them -- that you think they still need to be sent back? that probably was tough for you. >> well, we are all interested in the well-being of the children, and i can tell you when you walk into this facility and you see the kids it absolutely breaks your heart. you cannot help but feel empathy and sympathy. the challenge here is if we don't start securing the southern border and letting people know if you come you can't get in or if you do get in you can't stay, if we don't do that more and more children will be made to suffer. it creates the scenario where more kids are going to be, you know, killed in northern mexico. look, as soon as these transnational organizations in mexico get control of these children they extort people, and if you don't pay them enough money, your child could very well either end up dead or sold into the slave trade or congr-- >> congressman. >> yeah. >> this is a talking point at this moment to say that we have to secure the southern border. you've seen something that not many of your colleagues have. what are you going to do to do just that? what are you going to do to secure the border? >> well, there's a couple of things. i think the first thing we have to do is make sure that people understand that if you get here you're -- the children that get here are not going to be released to illegal aliens in our country. if we do that, it stems a lot of this tide. at the same time, if you look at the southern border of the united states, you know, it is very poreous. i used to do counterillicit trafficking operations for the united states navy. all the drugs and all the people smugglers, they were taking everybody to northern mexico because that's the easy access point into the united states. what we have seen that works is a double layer fence with sensors and rapid response teams. we've seen that in san diego. >> that costs a lot of money. that likely will cost far more than the $3.7 billion that many of your budget hawk colleagues are baling at right now that the president is requesting. >> i don't hear too many people talking about, you know, the challenge with the money. the problem here is the policy that is related to the crisis. what are the policies that have created the crisis? how do we change those policies? i think everybody wants to solve this problem, and ultimately if we spent money to solve the problem i could be for it. what i don't want to do is spend money to expand the current programs that have resulted in this crisis. >> you can use your experience to work with on a bipartisan basis to get a conclusion to this, a resolution to this and find a solution to this crisis sometime they soon, especially before you all leave for your month-long congress break. congressman, thank you for your time and thanks for coming back. >> of course. >> chris. >> coming up on nude day, a terrible subway crash in moscow. ten killed and hundreds others injured. many fighting for their lives. we'll take you inside that crash. plus, did the nfl drug up their players to keep them on the field despite knowing the risks? an explosive question the dea is investigating. a lawsuit is in the works. we've got a former player. we'll get his perspective straight ahead. 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>> did i hit another one? >> amazing, amazing. huge achievement, no question, but probably going to be overshadowed at the all-star game this year and here's why. tonight at the game one of the brightest stars ever to shine may be making his last turn on the national stage. we're, of course, discussing derek jeter, the legend of the storied new york yankees. we bring in andy scholes with this morning's bleacher report. everyone will tip their hat tonight to be sure. yes, my friend? >> yeah, they certainly with. a special moment. i'm not even a yankees fan and looking forward to this. jeter will be hitting lead-off for american league squad so you can guarantee when he comes to the plate in the bottom of the first inning there's going to be one long-standing ovation. now nike, they have filmed an awesome tribute video for tonight. it's going to air in the commercial break before jeter's first at-bat and here's a sneak peek. >> now batting for the yankees, number 2, derek jeter. number 2. >> the ad, from red sox fans to mets fans, everyone realizes that jeter has meant to the game over the year, tiger woods, jay-z make appearances, along with jeter's mom, she's in there as well and it will be a pretty special moment when he comes to the plate. fans are looking forward to it as well as players on the field. troy tulowitzki will be the starting shortstop for the national league squad saying he's the reason he's a shortstop, the reason he wears number 2, and it's going to be awesome to be on the field. >> there's a generation of players who wear 2, you know, because for a long time the dream of a baseball player was to be shortstop for the new york yankees, and this guy has done it the longest and the best it's ever been done, ever been done. whether you like the team or not. >> his name is so commonly known. >> it's huge. >> can't even say a bad thing about the guy. >> well, we could find something. >> the media has tried, and this is a guy who stood up on and off the field, he just has. boy, his girlfriends are good looking. >> there you go. >> he should marry and have kids. >> that will stick. >> that's going to hurt. >> thanks, andy. >> it will be a big moment tonight and then we'll have to see who is the next great. that's beautiful thing about sport. >> who is the next great? 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how do you know they? >> reporter: well, they do have indications that there was an electrical failure of the system before the crash which can affect breaking and can affect deceleration and acceleration in the system. so there's a lot going on other than that that wouldn't indicate that there's kind of terrorist activity. >> so electrical failure. why would that happen? >> well, it is could be because of the fact -- i mean, this system is -- while it's a museum piece, a beautiful pews piece of work, then tire system, but a modern marvel it really isn't. it hasn't been updated for quite some years. it's overstretched. 9 million passengers a day using the system, almost twice what the new york subway has as far as ridership, so it's a very stressed system that's being used 24/7 in ways it wasn't really designed to do so the system is getting old and needs updating. >> critics have been complaining about the maintenance of it. i imagine it is hard when you have that kind of volume, 9 million people a day. how do you get a time when you can get in there and do it? that's no excuse. they have to take care of that system. >> it's a matter of public safety certainly, and the fact that it's gone on for a long time is a problem. know, most of their fatalities historically have been slips and falls and people falling on to the tracks because of just the way that it's designed. it's very kind of hazardous so they don't have as far as the number of ridership versus accidents, it's been very low but this one is certainly the most severe and most deadly. >> given what you know, was it a matter of time before something like this happened on this busy overstressed system. >> well, yeah, i think it is, there's a little bit to know about the safety culture over there. as you look at this investigation in the united states what, we do first is we investigate the accident and we look for ways to improve safety. we have a very open and transparent culture about -- i made a mistake or there was some kind of an issue going on. there's some kind of things that can be criminal and punitive, and this one is already a criminal investigation. even though that we know it was a system failure. >> already a criminal investigation. we'll obviously keep watching that situation. >> we know where the accident occurred. it happened near one of the stations there in moscow that is the deepest. i think it's a 275 feet deep, the deepest metro station in moscow and we know that's hammering rescue efforts and one person that we're understand that they are working to get to. 275 feet, is that standard? i understand it's the deepest in mexico. give us some sort of perspective on that. >> well, it is one of the deepest actually in the world, and partly that's because they tunnelled under existing infrastructure that was there already, so that is a difficult thing to get, to but what's hampering the efforts mostly is the fact that as the accident happened the cars wedged each other in, they kind of smashed together and made it almost impossible to get in so they are using whatever they can to try to tunnel people to get in there. they don't think there's any more than four or five people left in the wreckage at this point but it's a very serious situation. the death toll could rise. >> and the fact that it happened during rush hour. 9 million people a day. i think that's something that's tough to let sink in. >> thank you, david souce for joining us this morning to update us on what's happening. they are tasked with protecting and helping the health of the players. but did doctors give nfl players powerful drugs just to keep them on the peeled? 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>> well, there are two things that i've heard from the players to whom i have spoken. the first action is the addiction. they say they were given too many pills and built up too high of a tolerance and now they have had to turn to street drugs to cope with the pain, kidney failure, high blood pressure, violent headaches. these are some of the symptoms they now face every day because they took too many prescription drugs. the other thing, and i think this is the thing that every nfl player has gone through is prescription drugs that now allow a player to play through injury. we're always taught there's a difference between pain and injury. pain you can play through. injury you should not. players who are masked -- have their pain masked are able to play through injury that they shouldn't, yet guys who have said they have played with broken legs, a guy like richard dent works has nerve damage now because he played through an injury he should not have. i think that's the main issue here, chris. >> were you on this number of players who was offered pain meds when you were playing and did you accept them? >> it's an interesting thing, you know, how time happens and serendipity. it was a few days ago my wife just threw away an old pill bottle that i had. it had 100 codeine in it and something that i was given, that i was able to take when i was wanting to, and fortunately i didn't. if i had gone through that whole bottle at will, i probably would have had some serious issues, maybe even to this day, and so i know that these prescription drugs are given out in high volumes, and too often, so i think this is definitely something that the nfl should look into what these clubs are doing and what they have been allowing in the past. >> let's try to check off some of the boxes of resistance here first, bob. why the league and not the individual teams? >> well, the league is actually the deep pockets in this case so this is a matter more likely based on the individual teams, and coy would probably point out some teams have a deeper culture than others but for the tort lawyers and the dea the league is the one because they have the ability to solve the problem. >> can the league solve what individual teams to? >> by rule they would be the ones who could make the most difference. >> and then just procedurally, this dea investigation sounds good for the players on the face of it, but it may lock down a lot of witnesses because now it's not just about me pissing off the league. i may get prosecuted for what i say. >> absolutely. nothing is better if you're a plaintiff in a lawsuit to have a government investigation. this one does exactly that. it will shut down information, and the other part of it is because some of it came from teams but some of it may have come from other players, a lot of people will be not talking about this. >> now the big point of resistance that i want to get your take on. i am a failed football player and rugby player. i know that you get hurt. i know that you can take things and continue player. i did it. it's an assumption of risk, isn't it? mean, especially at this level. you know you're the biggest, the fastest, the strongest. you know it's available. coy, you just said yourself you didn't take the pills, so why should the players who make that choice now get to basically come back and say i want to be held harmless from my own choice and paid off for it? >> well i think there's shared responsibility. ultimately it could be up to the players to say no to drugs. i know, it's cliche but this is potentially the case. >> or go after the players union. why aren't they going after their own union? >> that's right. >> and i also think, chris, that these players are under pressure to perform. i know that there are players that i've spoken to who say they were forced back on to the field, and it was basically said to them that if they didn't get out there to perform they would find someone else, and you can't make the club in the tub, that's how the saying go so the players feel that they have to do whatever they can and whatever they are told to do to get back out there and do their job. >> seems different than the concussions. >> the concussions i feel like you have a lot of leverage with the science. i didn't know. when i used to get my bell rung, your drop shoulder and it goes away in 10, 15 minutes, they say it's okay. there you maybe have a much more constructive lawsuit of you held things from me you should have known. do you see that here? >> a very difficult lawsuit for the plaintiffs. the investigation may open up some windows where there was misuse on the team level. a very lawsuit for the plaintiffs to win because of the assumption of risk and the fact that the players took the drugs, took them after their career in dosages they shouldn't have been given so it's easier for the league to push it off on the teams and maybe a few rogue doctors and trainers. >> one thing i will say, guys, is that there was some irresponsibility that i've heard from some players. i talked to players, chris, rob, who were given viagra, not because they needed it, not because of a medical condition. they were given this drug simply because they could have it from team doctors. now, if these medications that weren't needed for any sort of medical reason were given freely, how much more freely were the prescription drugs that could help these players perform on the football field, so this is an issue that i think we're going to see a lot revealed, and these players are going to reveal a lot about the culture of the prescription drug problem that's existed in the nfl >> you take away the viagra from the players, coy, may be a marked man, i'll tell you that right now. i also think this takes us to a bigger situation, not the viagra comment that totally flustered me of how we take care of retired players. a lot of these issues go to the same threat basis i played this game. i gave myself to you. you made a torn of money off me and now that i'm retired, what's in place to help me deal with what i sacrificed during my play so it's a continuing conversation. we'll see what happens with the dea side as well. coy, thank you very much for the perspective and talking to players for us. bob, thanks for helping us understand what happens going forward. the conversation will continue. >> all right. just one story for you this morning as you begin your "new day." there's a lot of news so let's get right to it. israel approved egypt's proposal for a cease-fire, but hamas' military wing has reject it had. >> it's a joke. someone is trying to just play games. a significant accident striking here at peak hour. >> our board remembers not open to illegal migration. >> round them up and ship them back. sounds like we're dealing with cattle. >> bystanders struggle to stop an alleged carjacking while a woman and child were still inside. >> i seen a car in the back seat choking out the driver. good morning. welcome back to "new day," and there is breaking news. it's the cease-fire that wasn't in the middle east. overnight israel accepted the terms proposed by egypt to ease tensions with hamas, but hamas called the proposed cease-fire, quote, not worth the ink it's written with. so the quiet did not last long. israel has launched an air strike on gaza after 35 rockets were reportedly launched into israel. >> meanwhile, pack here at home president obama has beganbacked israel's right to defend itself from what he calls inexcusable attacks from hamas. how are the latest developments being received in the middle east? where do they go from here? let's get straight over to wolf blitzer who has been reporting on the ground for us. he's also joined by the spokesman for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. wolf, this is the first israeli response to the talks of this cease-fi cease-fire. >> reporter: that's right, kate. it's been five hours since the cease-fire supposedly went into effect. the prime minister's spokesman mark regev is here with us. we know the prime minister is in tel aviv over at defense ministry, five hours. what's the latest information, first all, you're getting because rockets still seem to be coming into israel from gaza. >> the prime minister took a decision to accept the egyptian cease-fire proposals. our goal ultimately is defensive. we want to protect the people of israel from those incoming rocket attacks from gaza. now, if it's possible to do that diplomatically, we'll support that. the problem is so far it's a one-sided cease-fire. we've halted all offensive operati operations against terrorist targeting in gaza. >> there's been no israeli air strikes over the past five hours. >> correct. we haven't initiated any offensive operations against terrorist targets, but there have been some 40 rockets fired at israel, and this can't go on. >> how much longer are you going to give it before israel starts those air strikes once again? >> i can't answer that question. i don't want to answer that question and give a specific number. i can say the following. it's just unsustainable. now, hamas has to immediately abide by the cease-fire and stop all rocket fire against israel. otherwise israel reserves the right and i believe we'll have strong international support for acting to protect our people. it's not the first time, wolf, we've tried to de-escalate through diplomatic processes. ten days ago, a fortnight ago there was an attempt by israel to de-escalate, and then the answer we received from hamas is more and more rockets. >> if hamas decides to honor the cease-fire, at least for the time being, egypt says a high level israeli delegation should go to cairo and a high level hamas delegation should go to cairo and then you work out the details of that. >> we're open to a long-term mechanism to give quiet to the israeli public. an end to the missile strikes. if that can be achieved diplomatically, that's good. if diplomacy fails and hamas continues to try to kill our people we'll act to protect them. >> do you see a difference between the political wing of hamas and the military wing of hamas because the military wing is making these very blunt statements. they reject it. don't hear a lot from the political leadership of hamas. >> you know, for israel there's one important thing that counts, and that is are those rockets being fired or not? now if those rockets stop being fired, that's one situation. if the rockets continue to be fired at our people, we will be totally within our right to act to protect our people. now let's be clear. israel has accepted the egyptian cease-fire. if hamas ruins this opportunity, we expect that they will be widespread, a very wide consensus in the international community in support of israel continuing the operation. >> one final question. are you sure hamas is launching these rockets, because there have been reports that islamic jihad also has that capability in gaza? >> as you've said, hamas itself has had some problematic statements. let's be clear. hamas runs the gaza strip. it's not a dem industry in gaza. they rule the strip with an iron fist. if they want to stop rockets being fired, they can do it. so far they have done not enough. >> all right.regev, you're head to the ministry in tel aviv and the prime minister has around-the-clock meetings going on. >> we're working on the diplomatic front but it's clear a cease-fire cannot be one-sided. >> mark regev, the spokesman for prime minister benjamin netanyahu. kate, back to you. it looks like that cease-fire is five hours in place yet. the israelis haven't yet started their attacks but if the rockets come in, presumably they will. >> absolutely, wolf. maybe a quick follow-up you could ask of mark, he says that they have not launched any offensive attacks but with the attacks coming from hamas, have they responded at all because we have reports on the ground that there have been attacks in gaza. that's a good question. when you say israel over the past five hours has not launched any offensive attacks, have you started defensive attacks, in other words, if there's a launching that you detect, will you go in and preempt? >> we will obviously keep that fluid. i mean, we have to protect our people. i was speaking just a moment ago to the israeli defense forces, and there's no information whatsoever of any action taken by israel against hamas, against the terrorists in gaza. we were giving and are giving this cease-fire ample opportunity to succeed, but our patience, like anyone's patience, is not unlimited. >> what's your bottom line message to hamas rate now? >> the rockets have to stop, one way or another. either they will stop because the cease-fire works or they will stop because israel will take steps to protect our people. >> mark regev, once again, thanks very much. >> thank you. >> there you have it. it's a very fluid situation, i must say, kate, and we'll have to monitor it literally hour by hour but minute by minute and see what's going on. i'm standing other in tel aviv over in jafa and over the past hours i've been here i've heard several booms, presumably the iron dome missile defense systems taking out some of the incoming rockets and missiles. you get used to it after a while. >> wolf, excellent reporting on groun. thank goodness are you there to get that first response coming from the israeli government, mark regev, spokesman for prime minister benjamin netanyahu speaking to you. wolf, thank you so much. >> all right. we're following other breaking news this morning. at least 15 people now dead after a metro train in moscow derailed in the middle of rush hour. more than 100 people have been injured, some 50 of them critically. phil black is there with more. phil? >> reporter: chris, good morning. yes, this has now become a recovery operation. the rescue phase has finished. the emergency workers here believe that they have got everyone out who was alive or simply injured. they are now down there underground cutting through the wreckage of the subway train, trying to access the bodies, the ones they can't get to easily which gives a sense of just how significant and how powerful the impact was that took place under ground here during that morning rush hour, the peak hour period. there were hundreds of people aborted subway on this line at the time. they all came stumbled up to the surface, very chaotic scene, a lot of walking wounded, bleeding, stumbling, people not kuwait knowing what had happened and more than 100 people in hospital and more than 50 are said to be fighting for life. officials say this was a derailment. crucially they say it was not a terror attack which is always everyone's first fear here because terrorists from the caucasus region of russia have struck with devastating effect on russia's moscow subway system in the past. not this time but still a very significant human cost. chris, back to you. >> keep us up on that situation. appreciate it. now let's go to the latest crisis along our southern border. 2,100 honduran children and 17 mothers have been deport. their plane touched down late yesterday. more information about that. that means there's still tens of thousands of kids up in the air in conditions that are often not open to inspection, making matters worse, only 12 working days left until congress takes their month-long vacation. we're all over this story. it couldn't be more urgent. let's get to the white house with correspondent michelle kosinski. michelle, just to set it up for us, any chance that the president will say don't go on vacation when kids are being held in pens? you've got to solve this situation. >> reporter: we'll see about that, chris. i mean, as of this week the administration has lived up to its goal of starting at least to speed up the process for these people at border and send them home, but that also treads a fine legal line. now there's some criticism from democrats as to what kinds of terrible conditions are we sending them home to. also, some fallout over how to humanely house and care for these kids and families in the meantime. >> reporter: the border is tense, flooded, but the chief of homeland security had this to say after meeting with house democrats last night. >> the message that i and others have been sending is that our borders are not open to illegal migration. we will send you back. >> reporter: later today, texas senator john cornyn and representative henry cuellar plan to introduce their bipartisan bill to treat kids from any country the same and send them home more quickly. well, now, more families are being flown back to central america, the first group to honduras monday. that's part of the government's sped up process to deal with the problem while the administration urges congress to vote on funding and authorizing even more action, but every action has had a strong reaction, including now in trying to house the unaccompanied children and families seeking asylum. >> what do we want? >> justice. >> reporter: communities have started blocking projects to create temporary housing. that's happened in several states as spread out as california, texas, new york, virginia. the governor of nebraska is angry that privacy laws prevent the government from telling states when children are temporarily placed with families there. >> our concern is the cost, and they are not supposed to be receiving federal or state taxpayer-funded benefits, and the easiest way for us to make sure that doesn't happen is to know who they are. >> reporter: but on the flip side, there's been some criticism from democrats, too. while republicans have rebuked the enormous resources requested, some democrats said really now the administration is not helping these people enough. >> round them up and ship them back. it sounds like we're dealing with cattle. on the one hand they say we want to send kids back as soon as possible, and then they turn around and say, well, but these kids are escaping violence and drugs and sexual abuse and gangs. how do you reconcile those two? >> reporter: right now the law requires these asylum-seekers to have this lengthy legal process, even thought the vast majority of them won't meet the burden for asylum, so the administration has been under this enormous pressure to speed up that process. at the same time though that's not exactly going over well with many latino voters, some whom have called president obama the deporter in chief. kate? >> and congress, they have got three -- about three weeks before they leave for their august break. let's see what they do before then. michelle kosinski, thanks so much at the white house for us. so, staying on this topic, monday's flight touch down in a notoriously dangerous city in honduras known for its very high murder rate. it's expect to be the first of dozens of flights chartered by u.s. immigration officials coming in the coming weeks delivering rthe refugees back t honduras and central america and guatemala. now more on this. >> reporter: good morning, kate. 18 family units arrived from honduras from the united states. i saw the list of those deportees, and i can tell you there was 18 women, 13 girls and 9 boys. now the ages are very interesting because it's women as old as 49 years old and kids as young as 6 months. we saw that woman with the 6-month-old, with the child in her arms. now so what happens? they arrive in honduras and they get processed through immigration, get asked a lot of questions about their experience in the united states but perhaps the key is they get asked about why they left the country and a worker inside that processing center tells me that the majority of the women mentioned that they were leaving violence and that they were leaving poverty here in this country. now, after that they get on a bus and they are on their way. they are free in honduras. we talked to one of those women, and her eyes were swollen. she was very much satened by the fact that she was back in her country and she was with her 6-year-old girl. she told us that they made the trek alone. the little girl said they got on trains which was very scary for her, that they slept out on the woods and that they -- they saw monkeys and snakes, that it was a scary experience for her as well but that's the recurring theme. those are the stories that we're hearing and perhaps most importantly people saddened that now they are deported back into their country, deported back to the poverty and the violence that they were trying to leave behind. michaela. >> and the lens that awaits them has very much been a driving force for many of those people who are looking for a better situation. moep hopefully we'll get more stories from there. thanks for that we are spective. 13 minutes past the hour and a look at headlines now. a flare-up of violence has forced the united nations to pull its staff out of libya. a militia shelled tripoli airport destroying 90% of the planes parked there and damaged the control tower with several rockets. more than a dozen people have been killed in fighting in benghazi and tripoli since sunday. meantime, a suspect in the 2012 benghazi terror attack has been found dead. locals say faraj al chicagoly's body was found in an eastern libyan city. the u.n. security council has approved humanitarian aid to rebel-held parts of syria. the resolution passed unanimously and does not require the syrian government to authorize aid deliveries. syria warns that it will consider any unauthorized aid delivery as an attack. u.n. says more than 10 million people in syria need humanitarian aid after four years of civil war. score one for the good samaritans in southern california. a man allegedly tried to hijack a car with a woman and young girl inside, but, no. a group of men stepped in and made sure that suspect didn't go far before cops arrived. it was all caught on video. >> whoa. >> an heroic effort. watch as thee bystanders struggle to stop an alleged carjacking. according to local reports the suspect, 21-year-old ismael hernandez, climbed into the driver's seat of this minivan while a woman and child were still inside. he tried to take off but hit a pole in the parking lot according to police. that's when witnesses jumped in. >> i seen a guy in the back seat choking out the driver, and there are a couple other people at the window grabbing the keys from him. >> watch again as bystanders drag hernandez out of the car before he could take out. >> i didn't really feel sorry for the guy. >> when overs arrived hernandez continued to struggle and was quickly arrest. his family tells cnn affiliate kgtv that hernandez has been struggling with drugs and alcohol. >> i seen the video. >> as for the woman and child, they were shaken up and not injured. >> i think it's great that people stand up for each other. i know that won't happen in a lot of other neighborhoods. >> how frightening for the little girl, little one, and their mother. nice to know good samaritans jumped in. >> the guy is right. in a lot of neighborhoods it doesn't happen. amazing what people watch and don't know anything about. they don't know how or they are afraid. >> not just one person, but a whole group. >> which was nice. they overpowered him and police arrived shortly after. >> thanks, michaela. >> no problem. coming up next, attorney general eric holder says westerners fighting in syria pose a serious threat to the united states. coming, a counterterrorism expert is joining us on why holder is sounding the alarm calling it more frightening than anything he's ever seen. really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? 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[ female announcer ] over 100,000 businesses have already used zip recruiter and now you can use zip recruiter for free at a special site for tv viewers; go to ziprecruiter.com/offer5. . welcome back to "new day." attorney general eric holder is scared. he's scared of foreign fighters from the u.s. and europe joining the war in syria. why? because he says they are linking up with extremeists, including yemeni bomb-makers and returning home with a mission. take a listen to what he says. >> this is a very real thing. i guess just last month or so the first american became a suicide bomber, so this is not a theoretical problem that we are dealing with. this is something that's very real. >> very real, but not being discuss very much. the question becomes how dangerous is this really? let's bring in philip mudd, a cnn counterterrorism analyst, former deputy director of the cia counterterrorism center. in other words, mr. mudd, you will know the answer. is the attorney general speaking the truth? how serious is this threat, and why are weig four-game it? >> i hate to tell you this, but this is a rare case where i would say after 25 years in government, believe the government official, and the reason is twofold. first, when you're in the terrorism business, and i sat at the threat table with attorney general holder four years ago. when you're in the threat business in terrorism, every person counts. three cases, five cases, ten cases, if you make one mistake on one case, a shopping mall gets shot up. that's a disaster. in this case you're talking about dozens of kids coming home, and in the counterterrorism world that is a flood of people, so the first problem you're facing is volume. the second problem i would mention is time. we've been at this civil war in syria for four years. isis has been on a roll for months. if you consider that already we've had dozens of kids come home. what about 2015, 2016, when does this end? >> all right. so hold on a second, because from my perspective syria is a situation we've backed away from. i mean, it will come as a surprise to most americans to hear that we're dealing with one of the biggest humanitarian crises in recent history there. there are hundreds of thousands of people displaced and fleeing with nowhere to go. you know that breeds extremism and extreme measures to survive, so what are we doing wrong in this situation? >> i think the question about what we're doing wrong goes back to the origins of syria. it doesn't have to do with extremism. it has to do with the humanitarian disaster we faced years ago and the president's decision not to intervene. i'm not here to judge the president but i'm here to say as an expert in terrorism and extremism, when you get a situation where there's a power vacuum in the middle east, people with extremist views are going to move into that vacuum and start to provide not terrorism but security. people vote with their feet when they are facing insecurity. that is, they are not looking for democracy, not necessarily looking for the syrian government to return. they are looking to go out the front door and go to the shopping mall so that they can buy groceries, and that's what the extremists are providing in places like syria and iraq. they are filling a vacuum, and over the course of years they might cement control in those areas and turn their attention to things like how they send more extremists home to places like europe and the united states. >> so you're saying, yes, iraq is a problem if it continues to disintegrate. of course, afghanistan, but syria is where we should be focusing and that's why it's troubling that we haven't been focusing on it very much. take us inside the threat room, mr. mudd, when you're in the threat room and talking terror, what threats are existent in syria? >> we sat there with the fbi director, attorney general, 10, 12 of us around the table, literally a ma tricks of threats, the most significant are problems you're facing in the united states. that's a tactical issue, new york, san francisco, atlanta, sacramento. kids cropping up everywhere. sometimes individuals, sometimes small groups trying to do things like build backpack bombs or find a weapon so that they can shoot up a shopping mall so there's a tactical question about what you do about that? how long do you watch him and how much threat do you sit on and how much risk do you take when you go home every night when they decide not to go shoot something up and then you have a bigger strategic problem and that's where syria and iraq come in. they have to sit there and say okay, the germans, the italians, the russians and british, all dealing with hundreds or thousands of kids in iraq and syria. how do we partner with them so that we can see which kids are going in and which kids are coming out for one simple reason. you don't want to find those kids after they get home. you want to know about them before they get off a plane, because if you only find out after they get home you risk missing a few of them and that's a disaster in the countershrimp world you. >> only have a finite amount of assets, so when you look at, well, you've got the middle east and israel and gaza going at it, lebanon that has its own situation and isis dealing with moving back into iraq now, seems to be doing very well with that, you have afghanistan, do you put syria at the top of the list? >> yes, i would. for the simple reason, look at the problems you talked about, for example, israel, palestine or lebanon. typically not talking about threats to the u.s. homestand. when you're in the security business you have one primary question, when is something going to happen in a u.s. city that damages the lives of men and women and families across country? face a security problem, talking about earlier between israel and palestine. that's not the same as a kid coming home and blowing up the subway in new york city so to my mind i look at syria and iraq realize that not only do we have a volume problem, but as i said earlier, mean, if we're sitting on this in 2016 potentially with hundreds of kids coming home, one of the problems you face, you mentioned resources, you can't take one of those kids off the table. in other words, you can't say a kid who came home in 2014 is okay and in 2016. maybe he'll decide two years after he got home it's time to move. you've got a mushrooming problem with no end in sight. >> hopefully the attorney general talking about it means our homeland security and all the operative agencies have been doling with it already before we hear about it publicly. one thing is for sure. i'm no alarmist but i need to have you, mr. mudd, on speed dial. thanks for giving us perspective. we'll be calling you again soon. all right, kate. >> coming up next on "new day," "inside politics," the border crisis gets worse with more children flooding into the u.s. every day. some facilities are running out of space, but some governors are telling the federal government they don't want the children sent their way. so what happens next? 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>> oh, i think definitely some, but i think that the pragmatists in his caucus will understand that the gop is not going to give him a blank check. there will have to be some back and forth and some compromise here, but it is striking though to watch the politicians who are up for re-election this year. i was at the governors conference and all of those who face the voter this fall, regardless of what state, dan mal eye, an emphatically blue state very different reaction than martin o'malley who is not running for re-election. >> michelle kosinski's piece earlier in the show, tom harkin, democrat for iowa retiring, out there saying why are we treating these kids like cattle? terry branstad, will get some help later this week from chris christie, going out to help money to help branstad campaign. when he gets to iowa, you might remember it's first on the presidential calendar. chris christie thinking about running in 2016. a conservative group running a moderate campaign saying don't trust chris christie as a republican pause he appoint liberal changes. >> instead of liberal democrat for chief justice, tell chris christie our country needs judges who respect the rule of law. >> jonathan, a very modest investment but tells us, we've seen the rick perry and rand paul back and forth. 2016 is well under way. >> absolutely, and christie has got a real wall of opposition among activist conservatives, and the folks who are airing that are real hard-liners and christie is not from their wing of the party. this is one of his big challenges is not only does he have a home state scandal but in some ways even bigger than that, the more structural challenge. party has become a really pure conservative party in the obama era and that's not who chris christie is. he's more of a sort of can do pragmatist, a huge challenge for christie especially in a state like iowa dominated by the right. >> one other dynamic. one of the tropes, there's a wing of the republican party, the professional right, who is committed to attacking the kwish moderate. christie is filling that space. if someone else popped up they would probably ding him. >> interesting to see, this footnote as we move on from chris christie, he signed an executive order saying they will look at the common core, education standards christie embraced and jeb bush embraced, could be an opportunity for chris christie to reach out to the right if he moves away from the common core standards. you were in shepherdstown of the new darling of the left, john kerry was from there, michael dukakis, republicans said romney was from there. faces a huge uphill battle to keep her seat and what does she call on, elizabeth warren? >> the way i see this, citibank, goldman sachs, all those other guys on wall street, they have got plenty of folks in the united states senate who are willing to work on their side. we need some more people willing to work on the side of american families. >> you're in the room, peter hamobai, what's she like on trail in what has become a red state. used to be a reliably blue state, west virginia, how did she play? >> natalie tencan't is down by ten points and who better to bring in to fire them up? >> she was really good in the room. i mean, this room was half empty, and then it started to fill up and all a sudden it was standing room, had to bring in extra chairs. very good in a campaign setting framing these sort of progressive liberal issues as middle class issues, social security, medicare which are very big issues obviously in west virginia, students loans, minimum wage, and the crowd ate it up. they ate up. they really, really liked her. she is much more talented frankly than i thought she would be in a campaign setting. >> and natalie said i'm glad she's here, with her on minimum wage and social security but not on kohl. >> that's tough. when you get beyond and talking about environmental issues and cultural issues that's where democrats have had challenges in those kind of states recent years and the republicans want to maximize the separation on that kind of an issue. i'll tell you what, i don't understand why republicans don't appreciate warren's talents more when it comes to the economic issues, especially in this moment that we're in right now. it's very compelling message, and she is as much of an okie as she is from harvard yard. not somebody that is sort of brahamin and if you watch her on the stump she has some skills. >> she doesn't come off as this cambridge intellectual, very folksy and at the end of the speech this, woman also from oklahoma, rushed up and gave her a hug. i'm also from oklahoma. does have a genuine rapport with audiences. >> interesting to watch post labor day. get yourself a calendar of the big races. >> i'm a red sox fan, i'm going to tip my cat to derek jeter. >> that's good. even john king can. >> a class act. >> it transcends the loyalty of team. appreciate it. even have red in my tie today, you see? 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joining us now is sheriff brady judd from polk county florida where some of these prerp traitors were arrested. sheriff, thanks for joining us and we know you take this very seriously. let's get the right context n.large part our theme parks are safe. so the question becomes what is your concern in this situation? >> well, chris, we know there are child predators, and you remember the bank robber, they asked willie why he robbed banks. he said that's where the money, is so why do child predators want to work around children? well, they do that at theme parks, in schools, and do you know what? the congress has tied our folks' hands. you know, the theme parks, the schools can't do polygraphs to check the backgrounds or we would have more opportunity to discover the proclivity of the child predator which is really a monster that's after our children. i'm going to go after them with a vengeance to protect our children, and we need to do that nationwide, but the theme parks, the schools need help. >> sheriff, first is if you don't have a prior on your record, it's going to be very tough for an employer to know what's going on. you suggest a solution of a polygraph. do you have any proof that a polygraph is effective in flagging somebody as a pedophile? >> it's another tool, chris. we can use polygrafphs and we d before we hire a law enforcement officer. the officer who is going to guard your business and come into your home at night if there's a problem has to pass a polygraph, but the teach their teaches your elementary and middle schoolchildren doesn't have to take a polygraph. the person that's going to be dealing with your children at a theme park can't take a polygraph. it is against federal law. >> why? >> and that's why congress has to act to give us another tool. >> why is it against the law? why is it allowed in some businesses and not others? >> well, it's allowed in law enforcement, but it's not allowed in private businesses. >> okay. >> oh, it's not allowed in schools, and congress set that law in motion several years ago, and you can see the after effect. we've got predators that want to be close to the children so they move near to and work near children in schools and also in theme marks. >> we're aware of that threat. the question is how many are effectively getting in? disney put those arrested on unpaid leave pending the outcome. case and non-of the men supposedly work there now. do you accept as the right conduct from disney? >> i think disney has to and has demonstrated that they are effective in reacting to arrest, but we don't know who they are until we've arrested them. disney, if given the tools, could do a background and see if they have a proclivity for deviant conduct. they don't have the tools because it's against the law. but we all have to work together to protect our children. they are our most important resource. >> right. >> that's why at this agency we go after predators all the time. >> look, that's going to get nothing but applause from people in your constituency and hard to argue against it, but i will have to offer up this one push point, that you know, liberties matter just as much, you know, whether it's the safety of your child or it's the safety and sanctity of your own rights. people have criticized you saying, you know, you've got these guys under surveillance. you've tried some stings on them and even the guys who didn't go for your sting operation, you've kept them under surveillance, and the question becomes entrapment. how do you justify your practices with these individuals? >> chris, thank you for that question. i've been waiting all morning for it. you know, when we put an advertisement on a social media and say, hey, i'm 13 years old and someone comes there and says, oh, i want to have sex, you know, that's not entrapment and the law says that. the only ones that are screaming about entrapment are the perverts and the predators doing this. you know what? i've not had one mother or father complain to me about putting a sexual predator in jail, not yet. the people -- an that's the people who count to me. >> and obviously, and i know yo know -- you know you need to balance the rights of the individuals involved and make sure you make a strong case and the unfortunate thing, as you know very well, sheriff, and as i learned over the years covering the issue, jail often isn't enough. you can't fix an illness just with jail time. we got a lot of work do in this area. thank you for taking it on and let us know how it goes and how we can help in the media. >> chris, you, cnn and keira phillips have been wonderful. you have brought this to the attention of the nation and we will work together to protect our children and protect individual rights as well. >> sheriff, thank you very much. kate? all right, coming up next on "new day," actor tracy morgan talking for the first time since his very serious car crash. why he is now suing walmart over the highway wreck. it's a complete checkup of the services your vehicle needs. so prepare your car for any road trip by taking it to an expert ford technician. because no matter your destination good maintenance helps you save at the pump. get our multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. get a complete vehicle checkup only at your ford dealer. fancy feast broths. they're irresistabowl... completely unbelievabowl... totally delectabowl. real silky smooth or creamy broths. everything she's been waiting for. carefully crafted with real seafood, real veggies, and never any by-products or fillers. wow! being a cat just got more enjoyabowl. fancy feast broths. wow served daily. just weeks after a deadly car accident left him in critical condition, comedian tracy morgan speaking out for the first time and also gearing up for a court battle with walmart suing over the new jersey turnpike wreck that killed one of his friends. cnn's nichelle turner is here with more, speaking out for the very first time. >> happy to report a little good news in this story, we have reported so much tragedy in it. tracy morgan so many of his friends and fans were concerned for him. it was heartwarming to see him with that trademark grin on his face. >> how you doing, tracy? >> hey. hey. urge look good, man. >> reporter: an upbeat tracy morgan, flashing a peace sign and a huge smile as he speaks out for the first time since the horrific accident that nearly killed him. the comedian appeared in good spirits monday morning, moving gingerly and leaning on a walker as he got into a car at his new jersey home. greeting applause from reporters, morgan rolled down the passenger side window exthanking everyone for the outpouring of support. >> how you feeling, tracy? >> you look great. >> okay. >> you look great, man. >> just wondering how you're doing. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> if you've learned anything from me, it's how to do a bad job. >> reporter: the "30 rock" star and former "saturday night live" cast member now recovering at home after his limousine van was rear ended by a speeding walmart tractor trailer on june 7th. morgan spent two weeks in critical condition at a hospital before being moved to a rehab facility for three weeks. he suffered a number of serious injuries, including several cracked ribs a broken nose and a severely broken leg. morgan is now suing walmart, contending the retail giant was negligent and their driver fell asleep at the wheel. a criminal complaint says that driver, kevin roper, hadn't slept in a period in excess of 24 hours before the crash that injured four and killed morgan's friend, comedian james mcnair, known as jimmy mack. roper is charged with vehicular homicide for operating a vehicle recklessly and assault by auto to those he injured. he has pleaded not guilty. walmart has called the crash a terrible tragedy. they say they're cooperating with the investigation and are "committed to doing the right thing for all involved." now, as you just saw there in the video, it does look i can still working at it, it looks like tracy may be making some progress. it is unclear exactly how long his recovery will be but he is healthy enough to continue rehabbing his injuries at home with an, aggressive outpatient program. now, his friend, ardie fuqua, has been released from his rehab facility. good news on both of those fronts. kevin roper, though, could face up to ten years if jail if he is convicted for his role in this accident. his next court appearance has not yet been scheduled. guys, you saw, looks like tracy lost a little bit of weight, but so good to see him grinning and really trying to make some strides forward. >> that smile. >> exactly. >> sure's got a long road in front of him. >> could you tell. yeah. yeah. >> i know you will stay on it. let's take a break here on "new day." hopes for a cease-fire over gaza are fading fast. israel agreed to the terms early this morning but hamas remains defiant and is launching more rockets, at least overnight. we are live with the latest developments. 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[ meows ] the internet of everything is changing everything. cisco. tomorrow starts here. good morning, welcome bhang to "new day "kwgsz, tuesday july 15th, 8:00 now in the east and we do have breaking news this morning. israel accepted terps of a cease-fire proposed by egypt, however, hamas kept firing. the militant group rejected the cease-fire and sent at least 35 rockets so far into israel this morning. >> palestinian source tells cnn, israel responded with an air strike but israel told -- said on our air, israeli spokesman for israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, saying that they have not launched any air strikes since they have accepted the cease-fire. and in the last hour, secretary of state john kerry took hamas for task for refusing to e ingis school late. let's talk more about this with a former u.s. ambassador. thanks so much for your time. good to see you. >> good morning to you, kate, good morning, chris. >> thank you. so, egypt step necessary, puts this cease-fire proposal on the table, hamas rejects it, now we have rockets firing again. what's next? >> what ease next has already happened. last night, egyptian leader assisi announced a cease-fire to go in affect at 9:00 this morning, middle eastern time, israel send the cease-fire, hamas rejected the cease-fire, a total of 50 rockets hit israel from gaza starting at 9:00 and just about a minute ago, prime minister netanyahu announced the resumption of military action by israel defense forces against hamas in the gaza strip. all this happened right now as we're speaking. >> so do we basically just declare the cease-fire, that proposal dead at this point? >> well, right now it's not in effect. the prime minister -- prime minister netanyahu met with the german foreign minister this morning and said if hamas did not honor the cease-fire, if it continued to fire rocket necessary israel that israel would have international legitimacy and justification for not just returning fire but escalating the fighting against hamas. the united states, secretary of state john kerry, has given support, has praised israel for accepting that cease-fire, it was a big risk, but it does not appear to be holding. >> so i mean, it's the same question, but to push you further, what is then going to be the next step? do you expect from your long knowledge of the conflict here that this is going go -- carry on for days and we may see another proposal put on the table? because secretary kerry seems -- he is trying to suggest that these egyptian proposal is still on the table and should still be consider bud it doesn't seem like that's the case at all now. >> well, it still should be considered, but hamas has to be brought around to accepting it. hamas is in a very difficult position, has no regional backers, no friends around. its rocket supplies are being depleted. it's facing increasing discontent from its own residents within the gaza strip, many of whom have had to flee their houses because of israeli retaliations. no one's really coming up to the bat -- to bat for hamas right now. very sigh owe law isolated. maybe there is a considers that hamas has to be backed a little bit more into that corner in order to accept the cease-fire. that has been the pattern in the past rounds of fighting between israel and hamas. hamas has to be brought around to that position. how long it's gonna take, at what price, nobody knows. but politically, very dynamic situation here in israel as well, as the prime minister comes under fire, certainly physically from hamas, but politically from people in his own party who think he's been too forthcoming, too flexible in the negotiations. >> you talk about the price, that is actually something i wanted to get to earlier today, the prime minister said the following, that the purpose of the operation was and remains to restore the quiet and to severely damage hamas. we have harmed them and foiled attempts to attack israeli citizens, but you almost pose a question i want to pose to you, at what cost? there's no -- no one is questioning the right for israel to defend itself, but we are now looking at nearly 200 palestinians killed and hamas is still firing rockets. >> well, if israeli army goes into the gaza strip, kate, that number of palestinian casualties would almost certainly go much higher. israeli air force operates with surgical accuracy and even with surgical accuracy, you have what's called collateral damage, you have civilians who get hurt and even killed. >> do you think that's the next step? >> infantry into densely crowded area. well, there are certainly a number of prominent israeli politician and a large body of the israeli politic here, the israeli public, that says we cannot return to the status quo that existed after 2012, where there's a cease-fire that hamas essentially uses as a shield to build up its weapons supply, get bigger and longer range rockets into its arsenal and then hamas chooses the time to fire those rockets and disrupts life irreversibly. so people are looking to change the status quo. if that can be done through peaceful and diplomat inc., means, it will be much, much better. if it has to be done by alternative military means, again, an increasing portion of israeli public is willing to take those risks. >> do you think egypt is the right mediator at this time, considering it's a very different political situation then previously right now? >> i do and i think that that opinion is shared by policymakers in washington. you know, there was a tense relationship between general assisi, not just in the white house, but with both houses of congress and both parties in congress, it was a pretty bipartisan, rare bipartisan issue in washington. the way that al sissy came to power, seen as far less democratic, smacked of a military coup and again, people on both houses, both parties saying maybe america shouldn't be aiding egypt to the degree it had over the past nearly 40 years. now, i think people in washington and around the region are beginning to look to egypt. egypt leadership again. it has been lacking. there had been a big vacuum there. general assisi is proving without egypt, maintaining stability in this region is all that more difficult. >> seems that brief moment of hope that thing also could be deescalating with israel accepting that cease-fire, seems those hopes are slipping further and further away as we are look ac at very dynamic situation kicking back up as you and i are having this conversation with rockets being fired from both sides now. mr. ambassador, it's great to see you. thank you so much. >> literally. >> yeah. absolutely. >> right. >> have a good day. >> dynamic becoming a word synonym for destabilizing in that situation. but we have another situation we are monitoring where there may be a promise of stability, a breakthrough for iraq's parent. lawmakers there elected a new speaker. could be a big first step in forming a new coalition government. so, there was a closed-door vote and the winner was sunni lawmaker, salim al jab worry. now, this is important, that he is sunni, because that is a big gripe with the current administration. however, the government has not elected a new prime minister and the current one, prime minister, nouri al malaki, is under intense pressure to step aside after his handling of the recent isis insurgency. we will keep watching that. we do have more breaking news for you this morning. because at least 15 people are dead in russia after a subway train derailed in the moscow tunnel. the death toll is expected to rise because emergency officials say more than 100 people have been injured, 50 of them are in critical condition. let's get to phil black. he is live in moscow with more. what do we understand now, phil? >> reporter: chris recall the emergency workers are beneath the ground here , to the west o central moscow. the rescue operation has ended. what they are trying to do now is recover bodies, particularly those caught in the mangled front end of the subway car cut by that derailment this morning. as for the number of people killed it has been fluid, it has been changing through the morning. the most recent figure we have heard here on the ground from senior emergency workers and officials is 15, but there are reports on russian state media it could be as high as 20 people that have lost their lives here today. and the number of injured, that is very high also. it is getting up close to 200, more than 100 in hospital. some 50 of those fighting for their lives in some critical condition. the cause, we were told is a derailment. we don't know if it is because of human error or because of a mechanical failure but i think the key point here is we can rule out, the officials here are saying it was not a terrorist strike, which is some small consolation in this city, when people hear about a subway disaster of some kind, recent history would suggest possibly that it was a terror attack. the most recent one here was in 2010. that killed dozens of people. in this case, it looks like some sort of failing on this city's very hard-working subway system that carries as many as 10 million passengers a day. we don't know the cause but we do know there's been a very significant human cost. chris? >> and that cost is not yet fully known, phil so we know you are monitoring the situation for us. difficult there, because that subway also unusually deep. so we will get back to phil when we have more details. so now, back here at home, the u.s. is sending the first wave of undocumented women and children back to their respective homes. some are already vowing to make the long track back again, a continuing issue, obviously. meanwhile, just 12 working days left for congress to handle the murder crisis before their big, long, august vacation. so, what are we gonna do with the tens of thousands of children languishing on our border? joining us to discuss, cnn political analyst, david gergen, he has been an adviser to four presidents and also cnn contributor and daily beast columnist, ruben navarette. great to have you bothful. the main issue here, again shall, subjective to me, the kids. we had a congressman on today, he went and visited some of the kids. he says he was surprised by the conditions. they are good. he also says, but there are other places the kids are being kept that are not as good, but we don't know what those conditions are. isn't this an unacceptable situation, ruben? >> it s and absolutely, chris, it is unacceptable because this was supposed to be about the kids to begin. it's become about politics become expediency, about what you do in an election year when both parties want to get rid of the problem by getting rid of these kids as fast as possible and granting the white house the power it seeks to fast track their deportations. my friend, david gergen, a nice piece on cnn.com about safe zones. i think we need to have a safe zone around these kids to protect them from politician. >> funny, but actually true. explain to us what your idea is you write today in your op ed about safe zones, david. how would that work and how plausible do you believe it is? >> sure. well, i think it's plausible. it has been done before. plenty of precedent. in the past, on two occasion, the united nations has set up safe zone necessary areas to protect thousands, hundreds of thousands of people that happened first in indochina as the war in vietnam came to an end and, as you know, there were refugees all over the place and there was a lot of danger and the united nations set up what they called a safe zone, put troops around it and people were able to live within the zone peacefully and they escaped with their lives. the same thing happened then in iraq when they -- saddam was gonna go after the kurds in northern iraq and u.n. established a safe zone, put troops in, lo and behold, everybody came through it fine. we had one incident in bosnia when the safe zone failed because there were insufficient number of troops to protect people and it was overrun. >> so, you're saying the -- >> could take the lead and -- well, they have been the u.n. in the past but no reason why the u.s. couldn't work with the host governments to do the same thing. the critical thing, as ruben has been pointing out, is the children. and yes, we want to stop new waves of children coming to our border. yes, we want to stop children leaving our home countries. but we want to do that as humanely as possible. one of the moments that defines who we are as americans. >> right. >> how compassionate are we? how generous are we? a great past in that respect. we ought to step up to it this time. send the children back but put them in places where they and their families can live safely. >> a member of the greatest generation came up to me on the street in tears, saying not since the internment camps of the japanese after world war ii has he seen america disrespect humanity in its most vulnerable form, which is the children, as we are doing now. david gergen, a man who advised presidents that these guys are about to go on vacation when kids are being held in conditions that they haven't even bothered to check out yet? >> i -- you know, hope springs eternal and i still have hope in the next 12 days, they will come to a resolution. but if we engage in mass deportation and send these kids back to very likely death in many, many cases, the shame on us. we will live with that stain for many years. and the piece i wrote on cnn, i recall that ship, that famous ship full of jewish refugees that came here from germany. they were trying to get into the united states. we denied them entrance, they had to turn around eventually, go back to europe and a third of the people on that ship perished. >> you know it's politically charged. which should never forget. and obviously, it's politically charged when you draw any analogy to the holocaust. but without exaggerating the point, ruben, when you see these kids down there -- >> right. >> and i don't care what the lawmakers say some have tried to go, we know congress can get into where they want to get into. the president was 240 miles away, he didn't go by, they are trying to forget these kids to focus on the politics. you think they are gonna leave in 12 days without a solution, don't you? >> i think they will and i think that the reason is that as you say the problem with seek the kids and visiting the centers, you feel compelled to do something about it the last thing congress wants is footage on the evening news is them tour, one of the facilities and calls from constituents what are you going to do about it, protest their office and the like? david's right to bring up the analogy with the st. louis, ship turned around, sent to certain death and never gotten over it. two years ago, i was in jerusalem at the holocaust, there was an exhibit on "the st. louis." the world is paying attention, measuring our character at this moment. we have to as david said, rise to this occasion. we simply during the cold war did not take kids pushed from the east to the west and throw them back over the wall. >> who wins, the governor of nebraska who says i don't have the money this is illegal, don't bring them here or governor o'malley who says you are going to send them back to a horrible situation unless something's done and then that's on us just as well. >> bully or o'malley, opened up a new front against hillary clinton, given these pro-immigrant democrats a place to go and pressure hillary clinton to say why can't you be more like governor o'mallism the governor of nebraska should have gone to law school. these kids respect here illegally, they are refugees. they say you come and surrender, don't evade authorities, surrender to authorities, that's what they did >> the law at hand, david gergen, correct me at hand, but certainly lobbied strongly by both parties but signed, endorsed by government bush, provides for a hearing for each of these kids who maybe a function of trafficking, or look fork asylum that part of the law has to be followed as well, no? >> absolutely. and these kids are due administrative due process, that should be accorded to each one of them and those who have qualified for asylum should obviously grant it. i must say, chris, i continue to believe in the good-heartedness of the american people. i think if appeals were made to families through churches and synagogues and mosques and the like that there are a lot of families who would take in some of these kids. i understand why some small communities in a midwestern state may want to feel that a bus load arrives and what are they supposed to do and that sort of thing, but i -- and why there's some resistance, but i think we can rise above. this i honestly believe that there's still enough goodwill in this country, as divided as we are, as polarized as we are, i think moments we come together and say, listen, let's do the right thing and we ought to be generous toward the kids who are here. we ought to set up a safe zone so we can send kids back and ought to have a deadline, all kids go back after that. we don't have this wave upon wave. that's not healthy for the kids either. the safe zones gives us a way to balance our generosity and humanity with the practical rates you don't want wave after wave. >> and that's obviously the reality. the only way you shore up the the border for real is to disincent advise people to come illegally. if you don't take care of that part of it the other security part doesn't happen what we have seen again. david, ruben, thank you very much for being here. >> it's good to be with ruben. he's a rising star. continues to rise. wonderful. >> we need his voice right now that's for sure, he is speaking for these kids and not being heard. that's for sure. >> the other part is we got to see what's going on in those host countries that are driving people away in such strong numbers. chris, ruben, david, all, such a great conversation. thank you so much. take a short break on "new day." concerns this morning over foreign fighters in syria. why attorney general eric holder is calling threw net threats to the u.s. more frightening than anything he has ever seen. also, another deadly case of brain-eating amean barks officials sending to you the a new warning this morning. tell you what you need to know before you go into the water. 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why haven't we done anything more about it? what will we do now? congressman adam schiff joins us, a democrat from california, also a member of the house permanent select committee on intelligence. great to have you, representative. thank you for joining us. i remember sitting across from the president, talking about the crossed red line in syria. at first, he said let's see what's going on. then all of a sudden, he wanted to bomb syria and all of a sudden, we had found a solution where we would negotiate removal of weapons. now, we have one of the biggest humanitarian crises going on in that country right now, but we haven't heard much about it until now. are you guys on top of the situation there? >> we are on top of the situation, certainly from an intelligence point of view and i think the attorney general was exactly right. this is probably the most significant threat since, you know, the core al qaeda of the last decade. it's a metastasized threat. it's now as you point out, have etch a threat in syria, north afri africa, let's not forget aqap in yemen trying to blow up our aircraft. the big threat, as the attorney general pointed out, thousands of foreign fighters, some from the united states, many from europe, many could come back to europe and then to the united states very easily this is a grave concern that some of those people may come back from europe on planes, attempting to bring bombs. others may come back from europe and attempt another kind of a boston bombing, low tech, but nonetheless, pretty devastating attack on our homeland. >> so did we make a mistake with kind of allowing that situation to fister? >> i'm not sure we made a mistake, but certainly, the situation in syria has grown out of control. i don't know that we have the capacity to control all those events, particularly those that have come about as a result of the arab spring. we certainly can try, we certainly do try, but in the midst of this civil war, there just aren't a lot of good options, and putting in weapons, for example, which is one of the big issue, should we be providing weapons in syria, that's not gonna address the foreign fighter problem. we are still going to have that, whether we are arming the opposition or not, as long as these foreign jihadis are flocking to syria, coming from the united states, europe and elsewhere, this is going to be a major threat. probably, chris, the most significant things we can do are some of the things the attorney general enumerated and that is we got to make sure we partner with europe so that we know who's coming back. need to make sure that they take action against those providing material support to terrorism and support elsewhere, because many of the european countries don't even have the laws to allow them to do that. so there are steps like that that we can and really must take together. >> it's frightening because, on one level, it sounds just like what happened in boston, that you had russia, who supposedly did or did not give information to the intelligence community here about the brothers and the risk and either we didn't communicate it well or we never really got that information, then you wound up having the bombing. so are we capable of dealing with this threat and if so, are we capable of deal with it the way we can? >> we are capable of dealing with the threat but the challenge is they only have to get it right once and have to try to prevent potentially hundreds or even more plots against the united states. you have all the people coming back, foreign fights, others that might not be in the fight there, might be inspired by aqap online and we have to defend against all those things and sometimes you just don't have the evidence to go out and arrest people that you may have a concern about, like we had with the tsarnaevs. even when you get it right, it may not be enough 100% of the time. and that's probably just something we are going to have to live w the good news, and there isn't a whole lot out there, but the good news is al qaeda's ability to mount the massive kind of attack we saw on 9/11 has about seriously diminished, so unlikely to see something like that again, but unfortunately, i think we are likely to see some of the smaller one-off kind of attempts, eitherself radicalized people in the u.s. or these foreign fighters coming back with easy travel, no-visa travel to the u.s. >> am i wrong to say that i'm surprised that i haven't heard more about this? i mean, when i talk to people in your community, not the political side, not the intel yens side, not so say you can't be political an intelligent, i discuss it with that community they say, hey, look out for isis in north africa, watch out what's going on in iraq, we got real trouble here with afghanistan, bleed nothing what we see in the middle east, maybe lebanon, never hear about syria as something the u.s. is going to be very dependent upon. why now? >> well, it's been certainly in the background, i think in the public consciousness all along and the foreground, from the intelligence point of view, very concerned about this but chris, think you are right, eye circumstance the islamic state, whatever you are calling it now, its seizure of vast amount of territory in iraq and syria, the growing regional nature of that conflict, the potential of dominoing into a problem in jordan, that has so sucked the oxygen out of the room that seems to be only where we are focused on internationally and now the fight between israel and hamas, but nonetheless, in terms of the threat to the homeland, nothing really eclipses the threat of those foreign fighters coming back from syria predominantly, now possibly from iraq, and posing a danger to us here at home. >> obviously, what we are aware of in the media and reporting and what we are focus on isn't as important as what you are doing in the intelligence community, so it's comforting to hear you're aware of the threat and doing what you can. representative schiff, thank you very much for joining us on "new day." . >> thanks, chris. >> kate? 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>> sure. every once in a while. >> i think here's the big deal, right? we got the concussion lawsuit. that seems to have more fertile ground, you knew about guys that crushed nuts and you better do something about t do you see a stronger case when it comes to the you will have run tary use of meds to stay on the field? >> a the crux of the question. i don't see a strong case but doesn't mean they don't have a case w concussion lawsuit, it was set and complications, not settled now, got thrown out and have to rework it. it wasn't won. just because the nfl settled doesn't neatly mean they thought they would lose in a case, all these legal hurdles to clear. unclear if this drug suit would clear hurdles and the issue of con tribber to negligence, i think what you were getting at. with the concussion suit, a ton of evidence, the book, the pbs series, "game of shadows" about all this evidence the nfl had, sat on it, kind of made up doctor panels with unqualified doctors, does seem to be a lot of suppression of evidence. is that there with prescrips are drugs? i don't know, could have done things wrong, what the dea is looking into. prescribing them totally, off label, willie nilly, that is bad and maybe leave the nochblt hook but does seem different on the concussions. >> mike, the most basic level is this something that was well known, that prescription pain killers were being handed out like candy and they just kind of -- we didn't talk about it for a long tim? >> absolutely, 100%. there's a war your cull sure, mentality in the nfl. if you know this league, if you know the sport, the players are pieces of meat, the famous ones we identify, most of them are sort of cannon fodder and shoot themselves off with torrid doll or pop pills, the phrase like tick tangs, warren sapp said like candy, that.does up again and again and again. doesn't mean they are going to win a suit. >> couldn't it be complicated as well? >> i see the dea piece accept brahm from the lawsuit. years ago, the san diego chargers were xregted for handing out narcotics or prescription meds without filling out the proper paperwork. i think they will look at the paperwork distributing medications to the players was properly done. that is one issue. long-term wrist of the medications they are taking to get on the field today and that's what this is really b >> mike this is so pervasive, has been so pervasive, does it mean it's not happening today since this lawsuit has been filed? no, that doesn't mean it at all, like the concussion lawsuit doesn't mean the protocols would change h you have to remember with the concussion lawsuit, the nfl wanted to settle it, public outrage about it mothers not wanting kids -- >> nfl more of a reason to fight this one? >> i think so. they might think they have a stronger case. i don't know yet the public outrage is there. that charger suit, that was years ago this has been going on a long time. i don't know there is the cultural shock around this issue. it's a sad story there are victims. but will people not allow their kids to play youth football because nfl players took drugs? it doesn't seem as clear to me as the concussion lawsuit. also from a pr perspective -- >> right. and pr would be what motivates the settlement. >> that's what i'm getting at. >> the question becomes procedurally, are you going after the right person? i know the league is the pocket, but if you're saying that the doctors and the team made you play, i mean, that's really specific. david, what's your take on that in terms of is the league the right target for this? let's say more than individual clubs or even the players union? why not sue the players union and say you should have protected me from this? >> not only is the -- would the clubs be involved but these doctors are independent contractors, so their insurance or their individual practices may be called to respond to this. and it may very well be that a lawsuit is not the proper forum because in the years where there was a collective bargaining agreement in place, this probably goes to some type of grievance under the cbas. so frankly, i would like to see the union step in because this is hard for a private attorney to say, but you don't want opportunistic lawyers creating claims, creating problems, all for a fee and undermining, you know, the quality of the game. i will tell you one thing. by week 14 next week -- next year, next season, you will have players lining up to get tore rad doll shots before they play on sundays. >> the cycle continues and the lawsuits continue. mike pesca, david cornwall, thank you, guys. thank you so much. up next on "new day", a new warning from health officials about a deadly parasite lurking in warm waters. we are going to tell you where another deadly case of brain-eating amoeba has swimmers on high alert today. this summer,now go get him. what we're up against. this mission will take precise handling. let's show 'em what it means to be built ford tough. ready to save the world? 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>> what did you do? >> what did you do, andre? >> not what i did, trust me. the funny thing is this isn't the cleveland lebron left in 2010. in 2010, this was stale place that was economically kind of failing a little bit and kind of trying to find themselves. i think lebron himself will be surprised at the cleveland he is returning to, because there's a lot of other things going on. it's nice to have johnny manziel, nice to have lebron, but i think he is going to walk back into a scenario that will brighten his day. the other thing is a lot of people say who moves from miami to cleveland? the people. we are good-hearted people that are fun to be around. we do have a lake. it is not on fire. >> we do have a lake. >> yes. >> heart, man. you have got heart. >> we do >> andre, andre, andre, is there any split in the city though? sure you're hearing it. people were very, very angry. nice way of putting it. >> including the owner. >> including the opener, basically said good riddance, or something else. >> yeah. >> we all had -- there were a lot of hard feelings obviously back in 2010. all we are known is the video of someone burning a jersey. only three people did that but it was played across the country there are hard feelings, if you look back at the letter he wrote this past friday and even said toward the owner, who am i to hold a grudge, i think that was well put together who ever wrote that for lebron or if lebron said it i thinks that was his way of saying back to cleveland, hey, if i'm not gonna judge on what the owner did, don't judge me, i ammic i was young, made a mistake. 50 years without a championship, guys, we can get over things easier than some. don't get me wrong. some people that hold some regret and anger against him. i think the first time he is on a fast break and he dunks and we win a big game, think that will get pushed to the side. i think cleveland will have a new #forgiveness. here is the question though, all of this, rnc, johnny manziel and football tickets and then you look at the nba and tickets, this is a financial injection, economic boost for the city, all three. >> yes, you're absolutely right. that's another part that's great about this. we have six new hotels going in downtown. we have got a ton of beautiful things going in downtown, but with the return of lebron james, we have been told that it could help up to $500 million per year for our downtown, which is great. we have a medical mart that's coming up. 2016 when the rnc comes here, four big days that the rest of the country can see the good parts of cleveland. i know the easy b roll when you're nationally tore tv when it comes to cleveland, shown it bone-chilling cold, you show our team losing late or you show our river caught on fire. >> 50 years. >> you guys a different look of who we are in the next couple of years. >> and the wild chance, andre, in the wild chance that if lebron takes the cavs into postseason play, that it actually could conflict with the start of the rnc's convention, and then you have got scandal on your hands. >> the team should be solid. >> the team should you can solid. >> kyrie irving, got some money there he gave you some cap space, that's not that surprise. i can't believe you're even listing the rnc as things happy about when you have manziel and lebron. say cleveland and people really fighting with one another. >> we would fight with each other, but the funny thing is when you bring up the whole, you know, could we -- could the rnc be here with the championship game or championship series, that's something that we call oic, only in cleveland. everything set up so well. then you deal with that. but we will be ready. trust us. we want the rest of the world to know. >> a good problem. >> even if we got to play the nba championship outside at a court somewhere, we will do it. >> calling you when that happens, okay, a deal right here, pinky promise. >> i will pinky promise with you. i will be ready to g >> thanks, an drachl >> congrats to you and all of cleveland. >> thank you, guys. .could up next on "new day," another instance of kids being left in a hot car but this one is a very different ending, thanks to the power of the good stuff. that's coming up. amam rich. my social circle includes captains of industry, former secretaries of state, oil tycoons, and ambassadors of countries known for their fine cheeses. yes i am rich. that's why i drink the champagne of beers. free hot breakfast options. hampton, enjoy our you did a great job. it looks good! ...then fuel up with double points or double miles on your next getaway. make every stay more rewarding and feel the hamptonality wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, shopping online is as easy as it gets. carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? 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we will be a tad controversial, tweet us, let us know if you think they did the right thing, certainly the right thing by saving the kids. turn over for much news to ms. carol costello, a bystander doing well all the time. >> absolutely. have a great day. newsroom starts now. happening now in the newsroom, cease-fire. or not. secretary of state john kerry postponing his trip to the region. plus, deported. >> this is the facility where all of the deportees are processed. >> 40 women and children out of america and back in honduras, landing in one of the country's most dangerous ci.

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