trip to the border before heading back to washington where his plan to address the border crisis is far from a sure thing. for president barack obama and texas governor rick perry, the showdown was more of a sit-down. different ends of a roundtable discussion in dallas on the crisis at the border. >> just had a good meeting with governor perry. >> reporter: president later told reporters his beef is not with perry, it's with congress, who has a $4 billion request to deal with the emergency. >> are our folks more interested in solving of problem or more interested in politics? if they are interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. >> reporter: perry was less charitable releasing a statement calling for the national guard and more drones on the border, adding the crisis has been created by bad public policy, in particular the failure to secure the border. back in washington, critics from both parties slammed the president's decision to attend fund-raisers in texas. >> he's visiting democratic fat cats to collect checks. >> reporter: instead of traveling to the border. >> it does bother me. i wish the president of the united states were going down and visiting the children and visiting the site. >> reporter: the president wasn't budging. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo-ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> reporter: but white house officials are worried critics just might kill the border bill. >> the president just asked for $3.7 billion. for less than $20 million we can fly them all back first class so think about how stupid our policy is. >> reporter: as the president told perry he won't use an executive action this time around. >> and hi to remind him i'm getting sued right now by mr. boehner apparently for going ahead and acting instead of going through congress. >> reporter: now the white house is also seeking new legal authorities to speed up the deportations of those children who are coming in from central america because they have special protections under the law. later today a bipartisan bill designed to do just that is expected to be introduced up on capitol hill, but, kate, that bill is also facing opposition, this time from democrats. and you mentioned that hearing featuring jay johnson, he'll be up on capitol hill later today. he's expected to testify according to administration officials that i've talked to that without that money on the border they could run out of space to care for those children very, very quickly. kate? >> both sides saying this is a humanitarian crisis. how they want to deal with it, that's exactly where things split off. jim acosta at the white house, thanks so much. jim, we'll get back to you. i did have a chance to speak with governor rick perry after he had that meeting with the president. here is some of our conversation. you meet with the president after quite a bit of fanfare. he leaves the meeting saying that some of what you said makes quite a bit of sense. how would you describe the meeting. are you guys on the same page? >> i certainly think that what i said made a lot of sense, and i don't know we're on the same page or not. the president said philosophically he agreed with the things that i talked about because i said we need to secure the border. you need to put these national guard troops on there. we need to change these policies that are enticing people to come to the united states, and these policies that i'm talking about are where that if you're from one of the central american countries rather than mexico you're treated differently. these incentives, if you will, that if you come into the united states you can stay. stop those policies and secure the border, and at that particular point in time it staunches substantially this flow of individuals. then the united states border patrol can back to doing what they are supposed to do which is being on guard for those either drug dealers or those with terrorist ties back that are penetrating or attempting to penetrate our border. >> you have requested that he still come down to the border. you're saying that it's very important to see. he says that he doesn't want to be part of theater, that he's not interested in photo-ops. >> it's not theater. >> he's basically saying that's what that would be. >> it's not theater. the american people expected to see their president when there's a disaster. he showed up at sandy. why can't he show up on the border of texas? >> on the issue of border, you're talking about the national guardsmen there, if you have a surge of national guardsmen no matter how many people you put at the border, you've still got to deal with the crisis, the immediate crisis at hand, what to do with the tens of thousands of kids that are already through and already sitting here on our side of the border. what do you do with those kids, governor? >> but you first have to staunch -- that's a symptom. the children are a symptom of policies that have enticed them to come. the first thing you have to do is stop the flow because if we don't, then the problem is not going to be -- >> say you stop the flow though. you know this problem. what do you do with the kids? >> at that particular point in time they can follow the -- the rule of law that we have and process them very quickly and send them back to the countries that they are from. the real humanitarian thing from my perspective is to first not give them reasons to be coming here to begin with. the other one is to reunite these families together, not, you know, continue policies that rip these families apart and send children by themselves or mothers and a baby away from their family. that's not humanitarian. >> one of the things that the president said is a lot of what you have suggested is part of this emergency funding that he's asking congress for. he says it hits the targets that you're talking about, especially trying to get these children through the immigration system faster to process them faster if they do make it over here. are you going to come out and support him to have that passed? >> i'm going to support the president to secure the border because if he doesn't do that first, i'm not sure the american people are going to trust the president, our congress to do what is required. they look back in history which has not particularly treated them well from the standpoint of border security. so when the president -- and the president could do this very quickly, again, and i told him today. i said, mr. president, take the action. i said put the onus on congress, but you first have to act, mr. president. that's what leadership is all about. >> he says -- when talking about congress, he says that he can't put the onus on congress because they are not acting. he says it all comes down to if they want to take action or if they want to play politics, and he is pointing the finger squarely on republicans saying republicans are trying to have it both ways. they want to tell him to do something, but at the same time they want to criticize him for taking unilateral action and sue him over it. does he have a point on that? >> well, i think when you look at the president's actions, particularly on this issue, you have democrats that are asking for the president to come to the border, both congressman vela and congressman henry quellar have asked him to come. >> without talking about the prescription of what to do about stemming the surge, stemming this flood that you think is so important and then also dealing with this crisis of all of these kids on the border, him showing up at the border, that's not going to do anything about it. it's got to be dealt with either with governors like yourself or through congress. >> so actions are really important. >> yeah. >> and unless we see this president acting and the american people are going to think that he does not care about securing the border, i think that's the real political issue for this president. i think it makes sense for a president or a governor to go to the site of a natural disaster armahnmade disaster. i don't understand why the president has dug his heels in and basically said to democrats and republicans alike i'm not going because it will look political. >> on this latest crisis, i have to ask you, governor. you said last month that the administration on this issue was incredibly inept or they are in on this somehow. after your meeting today with the president, which one is it, governor? >> well, i don't know, and that's the reason i asked that question a month ago was why haven't we had any more action out of this administration? and, you know, again, the president has come to texas. the president has gracious and allowed me to give him my insight on this, and i appreciate that, but the fact is he still hasn't acted, and so actions are really important in this process. >> but words are important here as well, and you're saying, as republicans believe, that the president's words and talking about the d.r.e.a.m. act previously, that has sent the wrong message to central america, so words do matter in this debate. do you really honestly believe, as you said in the interview last month, that the administration might be in on this somehow? i mean, you're suggesting there's some kind of conspiracy here. >> no. what i'm suggesting is that this administration and their words and their actions or the lack thereof are part of the problem. i think you're putting the words of conspiracy in my mouth which i did not say. >> no, you actually did say the word i hate to be conspiratorial. >> and i hate to be conspiratorial, i hate to be conspiratorial. i did not say i was. >> how can you move that many people from central america across mexico and then into the united states without there being a fairly coordinated effort. >> i don't know. >> i'm just asking, governor, because words matter. >> i totally understand, but the real issue here rather than getting into a semantics battle is whether or not this president is going to lead this country. >> can you work hand in hand though with the president that you criticize so harshly on an issue that is so important to you? can you get past the politics? >> i did today, so i suspect we will. >> governor, thank you for your time. >> thank you, kate. >> next hour, we're going to talk with a democratic congressman henry cuellar from the state about the new bill that he plans to introduce, bipartisan bill, to change the law which would make it easier to process and deport undocumented children from central america, one of the elements that is part of this, i guess we can say, the prescription they are trying to cobble together to solve the crisis at the border. >> interesting interview. pay no attention to what i said, let's not talk about the words that i actually said out loud. >> words matter on both sides on this, and that's why you've got to ask. >> got to press him on it. in the middle east, more blood shot overnight as we learn that israeli authorities have suspended a police officer whom they say was involved in the brutal beating of an american teenager in jerusalem, and overnight the deadly conflict between israel and hamas has only intensified. more fire exchanged across the gaza strip as the israeli defense system iron dome intercepts rockets over densely populated tel aviv. the death toll, it is climbing this morning. the palestinian president calling the situation genocide. cnn's diana magnay is right on the border between gaza and israel and has literally been watching rockets fly over her head all morning. diana, give me a sense of the latest. >> that's right, john. we just saw four or five go straight up into the air out of gaza in this direction really. we were waiting to see if there was some kind of intercept by iron dome missiles, but there was none, but the rockets seemed to have gone in a direction that we can't identify. iron dome has proven extremely effective in intercepting any kind of rockets that have aimed towards large civilian population areas like tel aviv and jerusalem but the sirens are sounding here as the air raids continue in the gaza strip behind me. let's take a look. overnight israel continued its aerial assault on gaza, striking more than 100 targets. its aim, to reduce the flow of rockets and to severely cripple hamas' operational capabilities. gaza fired dozens of rockets overnight, some hit the ground and others intercepted by the iron dome defense shield. the burning skies above israel's border with gaza a clear sign that this fight is far from over. both sides say the other will pay the price for the continued onslaught. >> what am i supposed to do, just to receive and count the rockets or try to defend our people and ourselves, this is what we're doing. >> we can't start the war today. they started it already several days ago. >> reporter: hamas' rockets scorching israel's countryside on wednesday. militants in gaza released this video on wednesday showing a rocket launcher getting into position, and then firing more than a dozen rockets towards israel. some hospitals there now moving newborns into makeshift icus. as the number of palestinian casualties in gaza continues to rise. over 70 killed and more than 500 injured. people in gaza left picking up the pieces of their shattered homes and livelihoods. now, john, i think you can just see the smoke from where an israeli air strike hit just as we were running that report. the air strikes, as you can see, continuing. the question what is the end game here? israel has been authorized or the defense forces have been authorized to bring in 40,000 reservists. 20,000 have already been called up. ground troops will clearly up the ante considerably if they do move into the gaza strip. if you see a situation where they start having face-to-face combat. it's questionable whether israel has any kind of appetite for a long drawn-out war and what that would achieve, whether it's possible to root out hamas and who might take its place in a very densely populated-year where there are dozen of perhaps more dangerous militant groups. back to you. >> we'll continue to watch this situation and we urge you, diana, to stay staff. headlines now. breaking overnight, a man accused of murdering his four children and the two adults caring for them is now in police custody. the man surrendered after a three-hour standoff in the houston area. he's also accused of shooting his 15-year-old daughter in the head. she survived and was able to call 911 telling police where to find her father. investigators say a domestic dispute sparked this deadly rampage. in iraq, cnn has learned the pentagon is considering using a drone strike to kill the leader of isis. the mission would have to be approved by president obama, this as we learn that sunni militants have seized nuclear materials from a university in iraq. however, two u.s. officials tell cnn the stolen materials are not believed to be enriched uranium, and therefore, it would be difficult to be used to make weapons of mass destruction. >> the u.s. marine imprisoned for driving into mexico with three firearms will stay behind bars for now. the first court hearing for sergeant andrew tahmooressi ended late last night. he'll be back in a mexican courtroom early next month. tahmooressi's defense said there were irregularities with records of the search of his truck. tahmooressi for his part maintains he took a wrong turn on the california side of the bothered into mexico back in march. chinese computer hackers tried to access u.s. government employee data according to the "new york times." in the report federal officials say hackers sought information on thousands of government employees who applied for top secret security clearances. the department of homeland security says there's no indication any personally identifiable information was taken. >> well, it will be argentina taking on germany in sunday's world cup final. plan your day, folks. argentina secured its spot with a 4-2 shootout win over the netherlands. the germans, of course, we know clinched their spot in the final with tuesday's thrashing of host nation brazil. this is the third time argentina and germany meet in the world cup final. they split the first two meetings in 1986 and 1990, and we should also let you -- this final could lead to a holy battle if you want to look at it this way pitting two living popes against one another. pope francis, think about it, from argentina. pope benedict from germany. do you think they will have a little friendly papal wager? >> a wafer. >> sainthood. >> if they have to go to penalty kicks, they both have to shoot. >> interesting. >> is it who has the better shooters? >> getting a call from the vatican, a no go. >> 17 minutes after the hour, the fate of the nba's biggest free agent still hangs in the balance. lebron james, there is so much going on with this guy right now. he wrapped up a meeting with the miami heat president. >> where is he going to take his talents? >> no decision allegedly yet about his future as cleveland fans wait with bated breath to see if their hometown friend will be coming home. >> like the biggest week ever for cleveland. >> right. >> the convention and lebron james. they could just merge the two and he should take the nomination. >> there you go. >> andy, tell us what's going on. >> good morning, guys. you know, in the his trif sports, never has one player been able to hold an entire league hostage like lebron is doing right now. everyone is waiting, holding their breath to see what lebron is going to do, especially cleveland. lebron met with miami heat president pat riley yesterday in las vegas. according to reports he's not made his decision yet. he'll discuss his options with his family before finally making an announcement. the cavs in the meantime, they are doing everything they can, making a big trade yesterday to clear salary cap says so that they are able to give lebron a max contract. of course, the entire city of cleveland on pins and needles. i think they are the front-runners but would be crushed again if lebron decides not to go back. probably expect a decision sometime either today. we know he's going to the world cup final in brazil on sunday so we'll definitely get one before then. again, he's holding up this whole free agency thing so we need a decision sooner or later. don't know what carmelo or chris bosh is going to do because they are waiting for him to go first. >> i think he's going back. can't think of a reason not to. >> i think he's going back. >> i don't know how he can go back. >> what if this is all big fun theater and he stays with miami. >> cleveland would not be happy about that. >> all right. that would be another diss to clevela cleveland. >> andy, what's your guess? >> i think he goes back to cleveland. >> andy agrees with 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that donald thought, you know, very upset by watching her testimony. i think he felt betrayed by it. >> reporter: betrayed because he thought his wife shelly deceived him about why she had hired doctors to examine him. i trusted her. i believed her. i never thought that a woman would not stand by her husband, donald testified. shelly sterling testified he's getting more forgetful. he gets mad for no particular reason. he's just not the same person that he used to be, she said. donald didn't agree saying he is still the man in charge, and his wife could never run all his corporations, including the trust that owns the clippers. to say someone else can take over is ludicrous, he testified. sterling also blasted the nba. he called it a joke, the worst corporation in america, and then made this promise. i will never ever ever sell this team, and until i die i will be suing the nba, he said. >> he's not afraid of the nba. he will make it his, you know, crusade to set the record straight with the nba. >> reporter: speaking of the nba, the judge says he does not think the case will be over by the deadline set by former microsoft ceo steve ballmer who wants to buy the team, but ballmer's attorneys told us they are willing to go into overtime to get this deal done. sara sidner, cnn, los angeles. >> more chance for donald sterling to say more things. >> until i die i will sue the nba. i don't understand what exactly this means for ownership. clearly seems a little unclear. >> right. let's take a look at what's going on with the weather. meteorologist indra petersons is keeping track. >> take a sight that we're sick of. heavy rain, albany from yesterday and strong winds, strong enough to even uproot trees. this has been the concern as we continue to watch the exact same cold front taking its time. very easy to see where the cold front. is a 12-hour loop. that's where the storms continue to fire up. we want this guy out of here. let's talk about the timing and where it is 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suspended a police officer that they say was involved in this brutal beating of an american teenager in jerusalem last week. new airport security measures are in effect for domestic flights. the tsa will now ask some passengers to power up their electronic devices at airport checkpoints to show that they do indeed work. it is an expansion of a procedure affecting some u.s.-bound flights. more details. thought it was just flights originating in middle east and europe coming into the united states. now a change. >> yeah. things that changed just this week. this new security measure though is targeted as a very, very specific group of people, now, if you are on the federal government's watch list, make sure your devices are fully charged because now you'll have to power them up flying out of a u.s. airport or international airport. people who find thim themselves on this so-called select list at airport, they have been flagged by either the government or law enforcement as a potential terror threat. now, you should know that these people already get enhanced screening, but this will be another layer of security. this is all coming, as you mentioned, michaela, after last week the u.s. government stepped up security at airports in the europe, middle east as well as africa essentially to address concerns that terrorist groups are looking for new ways to sneak explosives on to aircraft, so what this procedure really does is try to help them assure that the electronic devices haven't been modified to conceal an explosive device. we should point out that this will only impact about a couple hundred people per day. michaela. >> we should start seeing the changes implemented soon. renee marsh, thanks so much for that. >> john? >> new details in the georgia hot car death case. investigators recreating the sweltering conditions that led to the death of 22-month-old cooper harris. i want to show you a video right now from atlanta station waga. it shows investigators parking the actual suv that cooper was in in the exact spot where it was parked the day that his father left him there. victor blackwell following the story from us from atlanta. what do you have >> reporter: in a few hours police detectives will continue to study everything outside the suv, everything ross harris did, why and when, but now there's a new group of investigators who are studying what happened for the seven hours the child was inside that car, when his discomfort became pain. the pain then became torture and then the torture ended in death. just how hot did it get inside this suv as 22-month-old cooper harris suffered and ultimately died. the estimates are staggering, potentially 140 degrees. now cobb county investigators have recreated a scene that they have described repeatedly but one we are seeing for the first time. in this video from waga we see justin ross harris' suv in the employee lot at home depot on a hot sunny day in the same space where he parked it three weeks prior, and in the back the very car seat cooper was strapped into for seven hours. joseph scott morgan is a forensic scholar and former investigator. >> i think that it paints a really graphic picture for us as the public to get an idea what this child went through and how horrific this death was. >> reporter: in the video investigators with the district attorney's office are seen testing temperatures several times. at 9:30, about the time police say harris pulled into the parking lot and left his toddler strapped in the back seat. at 12:42, when police say harris returned to place light bubbles in the characters and at 4:16, the end of the work day when detectives say harris got in and drove off. >> externally they would have been using an external temperature gauge which is a huge thermometer that they have with a digital readout. interiorly inside of the car, they have temperatures monitors that are set up within the vehicle. my thought is that they are also utilizing more than likely heat sensitive video as well to see the rise and fall of temperature. >> the d.a.'s office has not released the findings of the heat test, but for most people, left heartbroken by this case, the exact temperature is an after thought when compared to the toddler's agonizing death. >> you still have a child that's strapped in a car that's exposed to extreme heat, that i can assure you no adult would be able to endure. i certainly couldn't endure it. >> reporter: now we heard during the probably cause hearing that there were scratches on the child's face, bruises on back of his head, quite possibly sustained while he was in that car seat. of course, we're still waiting for the completion and the release of the autopsy in this case, and police, again, are still looking through computers and cell phones to determine if this was an accident or if indeed it was murder. back to you. >> any way you cut it the death of a 22 thoeld child is simply horrible. victor blackwell, our thanks to you. >> thanks, victor, absolutely. coming up next on "new day," president obama is speaking out on the border crisis and is pointing fingers. who he blames for the problem and what that means for the fight over tens of thousands of undocumented children waiting. ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ hooking up the country helping business run ♪ ♪ build! we're investing big to keep our country in the lead. ♪ load! we keep moving to deliver what you need. and that means growth, lots of cargo going all around the globe. cars and parts, fuel and steel, peas and rice, hey that's nice! ♪ norfolk southern what's your function? ♪ ♪ helping this big country move ahead as one ♪ ♪ norfolk southern how's that function? ♪ welcome back to "new day," everyone. pope mar really raising some eyebrows, making comments about the crisis on the border while saying he was ready to take steps to stop the influx of young immigrants. he really put a lot of the blame, most of the blame at the feet of congress and partisan politics. >> if i sponsored a bill declaring an apple pie american, it might -- it might fall victim to partisan politics, i get that. >> apple pie politics, that emphasis rubbing some politics the wrong way. joining us now to talk about this, our own cnn political commentators kevin madden, a republican strategist, paul begala, a democratic strategist and senior adviser for priorities action usa. hey, paul, it's interesting. the president says that this is all about politics, really anti-obama politics is what he's saying, yet, you know, he removed himself from the immigration debate for a year to let congress work on it, and they still couldn't come up with a solution, so is that really fair? >> well, they couldn't because the republicans are caught in this trap. republican primary voters, not republicans generally, but activists in their party, they really hate the president, they hate, hate, hate the president, and that tea party fringe has pinned down the rest of the republicans, you see it. look, all he's trying to do is pass george w. bush's immigration plan. republicans won't support it even though it was proposed by their president. everything he touches becomes marxism, are we kidding? >> everyone is playing politics. paul, let me ask you of this. one point is that the president he says that he doesn't need to go to the border because he says he's not into theater. i'm not interested in photo-ops, i'm interested in solving a problem. you've called on him to go to the border. i don't know why the president -- tell me why you think the president still won't go because it seems that when it comes to a presidency, you got to do photo-ops, it's what happens. >> and it's not just a photo-op. the meeting with rick perry, that was a photo-op, believe me. i'm serious. if ignorance ever goes to $100 a barrel, the president didn't learn a thing meeting with that guy. that photo-op, theater that you have to do when you're president. if you go to the border, though, the president could do a lot. he could send a message from a more powerful platform to central american folks don't send your kids here. second, he could show americans it's not a border security problem. it's a humanitarian crisis. the kids are surrendering. they are not evading the border patrol. first, he could buck up the first responders. the border patrol agents are heros and there was a lot of political theater and that's what he's doing with governor good hair. >> i'm getting the sense that paul doesn't like rick perry. >> i'm getting the sense they have issues. >> we go way back. >> you've been sitting and behaving yourself quietly. >> trying. >> rick perry was pressing the president to take action. >> yes. >> but the president has pointed out that taking action on his own over the last couple of years has created problems of his own. let listen to what the president said about this. >> governor rick perry, you know, he suggested maybe you need to go ahead and act and that might convince republicans that they should go ahead and pass the supplemental, and i had to remind them i'm getting sued right now by mr. boehner apparently for going ahead and acting instead of going through congress. well, here's a good test case. >> it is a little bit of a mixed message, kevin it. republicans saying, mr. president, you have to take action and when he does take action we're going to sue you. >> that sound bite underscores paul's point there's a lack of leadership. the petulant tone that the president took down on the border, i don't think it served anybody's good. to decry the politics of this by president obama is quite silly. politics and policy, they go hand in hand. any time you're decrying the politics the way the president is, you're losing the politics. the reason he's losing the politics, the president, that is, it's not because his opponents are doing a much better job of solving the problem. instead, he's losing the politics because he's getting criticism from both side. it's not only republicans that are criticizing the lack of action from the president. henry cuellar, louis gutierrez, two very passionate democrats, very strong supporters of immigration reform, they are admonishing the president for his lack of leadership and the fact that he won't go to the border and see this problem, this humanitarian crisis and the border security crisis firsthand. that's one of the big problems. >> let me ask you, kevin, a little bit about policy. governor perry in the interview that i did with him, he said he made it very clear that he wants to first see the border secured. >> right. >> national guardsmen, surge to the border to protect the border and only then do you start dealing with the crisis of what to do with these children, putting them through the immigration system. >> right. >> do you think that is a feasible strategy, a feasible policy position for republicans on this? >> it is, and it also aligns with a lot of what you see with the american public. first they believe that in order to solve the immigration problem that we do have to have a much more secure border. we have a to put resources there and we have to put a premium on securing our border before we can deal with the undocumented immigrants that we have here and the pressure for modernizing our immigration system in a way that recognizes that there are people that want to come here, that there are people fleeing bad situations elsewhere, but also how it fits into our larger economic aspirations as a nation. >> kevin, to paul's point, they are not sneaking in and melting away. they are getting in, getting caught and in some cases turning themselves over. what are 100,000 more national guard troops going to do? >> there's a lot of different opinions up on capitol hill. i think there are democrats and republicans that now want to see the law changed on how we deal with a lot of these children that are coming here without parents, unaccompanied minors, so that's -- look, if the president really cares about solving the problem, is he going to call capitol hill? is he going to bring together a bipartisan group of people to work on maybe that change, to work on harnessing and putting some of the resources down on the bothered in order to solve the humanitarian part of it? it will be interesting to see. right now up until this point in this president's term, which has been six years in the presidency, he either has really bad relationships up on capitol hill or no relationships. that's one of the reasons we're at this point. >> we're seeing that at least in part play out here. paul, kevin, thank you so much. i think one thing that i don't understand is it doesn't seem from what we heard from the president, the reaction to the president's statement yesterday, in the interview i did with governor perry that either side is ready to take the first move. the president made this request, but no one is ready to jump to 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(vo) introducing the all-new subaru legacy. it's not just a sedan. it's a subaru. some "new day" irony for you right now. a man who just co-wrote an ebook on how to survive the running of the bulls in spain was gored on wednesday. bill hillman is currently in a hospital. he is recovering in pamplona after he was gored in the thigh. hillman, who wrote "fiesta, how to survive the bulls of pamplona," joins us by phone right now. bill, thank you so much for being with us. let me ask you right off the bat, how is the fiesta going for you this morning? >> this morning it's been great. you know, i've got a lot of people coming to visit me, some of the great runners, a lot of my dear friends are stopping by and giving me a lot of support and a lot of good energy. >> so what went wrong? >> well, you know, it was -- it was a really dangerous situation which i outline in the book. it's when a bull is separated from the pack. they lose -- >> i think we just lost mr. hillman who was gored in the thigh by a bull. after the bull, as he was saying, was separated from the pack. he did get gored. it's interesting. the introduction of the book written by a co-author. if you want to guarantee you'll survive running the bulls, stay off the street and watch it from the balcony. >> or home. >> or home. >> in america. >> was this his first time? >> no, no, no, this guy is a pro. he said the issue was a bull got separated and other humans fell down near him. we actually have a story on this. our jeanne moos takes a look at the situation. >> reporter: buffalo bill hillman took the bull by its horns all right, right in its thigh. are you on drugs? >> yeah, i'm on a lot of drugs, think i'm on a lot of morphine. >> reporter: that bull didn't just gore anyone, it gored the author of "how to survive the bulls of pam probea" and the bull is now running a book "how to gore a clown running in front of me on a street in spain." bill ranning suspenders got pushed by the guy behind him and then tripped on someone's foot. >> the horn entered on my inner thigh and exited on my outer thigh and then pulled through. >> reporter: do you remember feeling it go in? >> i didn't feel it at all. when he lifted me that's when i realized i was gord. it was actually very slow and kind of graceful to be lifted by a bull, but it didn't hurt at all. >> reporter: he was instantly in shock, didn't feel pain until he was put in an ambulance. doctors told bill the horn missed his femoral artery by about this much. we spoke to bill shortly after he had surgery to clean the wound. >> just part of the run. all the great runners have been gored. >> reporter: this was the tenth year that bill has joined in the running of the bulls. people trip each oh, the bulls trip over the people, the bulls trip over the bulls. they pull the bull's tail to get it away from runners who are down. chapter three of how to survive the bull of pamplona is full of tips such as if you fall down, stay down. instinct tells the bull to jump over the debris. will you be making additions to the book? >> i think the book is very solid and today was a situation where somebody pushed me and i fell over and got gored. >> reporter: bill's prognosis is good, but not the bulls. they almost always wind up dead by the end of the day, killed in bull fights. the animal that gored bill got separated from the herd which sends the bull into attack mode t.trampled another guy after goring bill. will the author be back for the re-running of the bulls next year? >> i can't wait to get back on the street. >> reporter: but give that creature credit. the bull that gored bill hit the bullseye of irony. jeanne moos, cnn, new york. >> he's getting stitches in the europy right now after getting gored. >> all the greats have been gord, he says. >> it's like the news business, right? journalism. >> depends on what you think is great. >> good point, good point. >> that's just some of the news we're following. a lot of more news this morning. let's get right to t. it's the handshake that almost didn't happen. >> are folks more interested in politics or more interested in showing the problem? >> he showed up at sandy? why can't he show up on the border of texas >> reporter: burning skies a clear sign that this fight is far from over. >> we urged them. we warned them. stop shooting the rockets. >> if the israelis continue their attacks, the palestinian people will defend themselves. she has a high-priced prostitute,y had a 51-year-old silicon valley executive found dead. >> it showed our suspect and victim and showed her injecting him with heroin. >> good morning and welcome back to "new day." john berman is here with us. chris is off. we begin with political battle lines now becoming clear on the border crisis. president obama urging congress to take swift action on his $3.7 billion plan, also telling critics and pressing him to visit -- also telling critics who are pressing him to visit the border that this isn't theater. he isn't interested in photo-ops, he says. homeland security secretary jay johnson will push the president's proposed fix during a senate hearing today but he'll be met with plenty of resistance, all of this following president obama's meeting with texas governor rick perry on this urgent issue. senior white house correspondent jim acosta is following all the developments for us. everyone is wondering though what comes from that meeting though, jim. >> reporter: absolutely, what will come, kate? president obama will spend one more day in texas, by the way, doing fund-raising and giving a speech on the economy, but aides say he won't be making a trip to the border before he heads back to washington. after meeting briefly with texas governor rick perry, the president called on congress to act on his almost $4 billion plan to address the border crisis but the president also dug in his heels and defend is his decision to pass on a trip to see the problem firsthand calling that kind of move a photo-op. back here in washington his plan to deal with tens of thousands of children coming into the u.s. from central america faces opposition from both sides of the aisle. even democrats are raising concerns about a white house proposal aimed at speeding up deportations of central american children. top administration officials, as you mentioned, kate, will testify at a congressional hearing on the president's emergency funding request later on today. a top white house official says they will tell congress without the money they could house space to help the children right down on the border. >> for more let's bring in a congressman really at the center of this discussion, democrat henry cuellar from texas. he plans to introduce a measure that would reverse a 2008 law signed by president george w. bush supported by george w. bush at the time that would make it easier to process and deport undocumented immigrants from central america more quickly. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you so much. >> this measure supported by congress nearly unanimous in 2008, again, signed by president bush during the republican administration. it creates this legal process by which these people coming from el salvador, guatemala and these countries having so many problems go through a more lengthy judicial process. what do you think it will do to reverse that? >> well, first of all, the protections of asylum, the protection of credible fear, the protection of being a victim of sex crime, none of those protections are touched. they are there. they are going to remain, number one, but how border patrol interviews people when they first come in, there is a difference from contiguous and non-contiguous country. why is there a difference? why does it matter that if you've had 80,000 murders in mexico but somebody comes in, a child, a mother, an adult, they are treated differently, so all we're saying is at least give the border patrol the flexibility to do those interviews, and anybody that wants to return voluntarily give them that authority like we do with contiguous countries like mexico. again, the protections remain there, and i want to make sure the asylum, sex victims and, of course, making sure that any credible fear claims are protected. >> sex victims and also terrible gang violence, people fleeing terrible situations there. some people say there's a terminology issue here. we keep referring to them as immigrants. are some of these people refugees? >> well, you know, every case is going to be determined. if somebody asks for a hearing and there is a hearing, a judge will make that determination under the law. the law of what is asylum, what is a credible fear and what is a sex victim. those protections are not going to be touched, i emphasize, but why is there a difference for contiguous and non-contiguous countries and that's the only thing i'm saying is let's go ahead and treat every country the same the way we treat mexico and canada. in this case, of course, mexico where they have had over 80,000 murders in the last few years. >> there is a practical difference is they don't border the united states so it does become more complicated to get them back to their home countries. dine feinstein, senator from california compared this -- you know, she eposes right now changing the 2008 law saying it'stant mouth to both loads of jewish immigrants trying to come to this country and getting turned back. what do you say to that criticism? >> well, certainly, again, we're not taking the protections away. i understand. i live on the border. i breathe the air. i drink the water. i've lived all my life. i understand the porter, teamly well, and i will say that, again, why is there a difference with a contiguous and non-contiguous? i understand you have ports of entry, pretty good protocols with mexico. we need to develop the same types of protocols with those countries. a lot of people know this. we are returning about 20 to 25 flies, i.c.e. will return flights back to central america every single week. >> right. >> so we're already doing this, so we've just got to develop the protocols so when we return families or children, we hand them out to the right individuals and working with those governments, and that's why this -- this is a regional issue that we need to look at. >> congressman, i know you understand the problem and know you live on the board they are and see it every day and i also know you want the president to come down and see it for himself. you have been one of many people, members of congress, democrats and republicans, pressuring the president to come look at the problem. last night he reacted to that, really pushing back on you and others. he said this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo-ops. what's your reaction? >> certainly he can go unannounced and not take any cameras like he did in colorado. he can go unannounced. i'm not interested in a photo-op of the president being there. i'm interested in him looking at the kids. the kids that i've talked to, little innocent little boys and girls that have come across and have traveled over 1,000 miles that one-third of the girls have been abused and raped on the way up here. the last young kid was an 11-year-old little boy from guatemala that died of dehydration. that is the face that i want him to see. don't take any cameras, mr. president, but go down there and see what we're facing. what about the non-profits? what about the churches who are running out of money? my border community is a very poor community, but they are trying to do the best out of their own generosity to help, and he ought to at least talk to those leaders, religious leaders and the community leaders in my very poor part of the united states. >> does it bug you that he's calling your pleas nothing more than theater? >> well, again, the president can do anything and can say anything he wants to, but, again, words are important, but it's the actions that i want to see. every president will be defined on how he handles a crisis, and, again, he can either roll up his sleeves and go down to the border. the last time he was in south texas is when he was campaigning in 2008, and that was nice. he's been to el paso, but this is the epicenter is in south texas, and i think he should personally go take a look. he ccan continue sending surrogates down there and continue to say he's informed but if you don't roll up your sloefs and go down there and see the human face of what's happening, not only from the generosity of poor communities on the border, by the way, i looked at his proposal, not a single penny to help the poor communities to address this impact that we're facing, but, again, as a member of the appropriations, we're going to be looking at his proposal. i want to be supportive of the president, but -- but, again, you know, we've got to continue this dialogue and i certainly want to be supportive of what we need to address down there at border. by the way, one last thing. this didn't just happen last night. he's asking for an emergency. if he looks at it, this has been going on for one year or two years. why is he calling this emergency funding when this happened over a year, two years ago and he missed -- basically the administration missed the uptick that we're facing at this time? >> congressman henry cuellar, we appreciate your passion and your continued focus on this issue. thanks for being with us this morning. >> thank you so much. >> kate. let's turn now to the middle east. thanks, john. israeli officials have suspended a police officer they say was involved in the brutal beating of a american teen in jerusalem last week, this as the situation there becomes increasingly more and more unstable. overnight, more fire was exchanged between israel and hamas over the gaza strip, and as palestinian death toll climbs, hamas has boosted its rocket range sending its arsenal deeper into israel. cnn's diana magnay is tracking developments this morning from the israel-gaza border and you're seeing this all happen and play out firsthand, diana. >> reporter: kate, that's right. just behind my left shoulder now you can see a plume of smoke from an israeli air strike which happened just as you were reading that introduction to me, a huge explosion. now the israeli defense forces -- and that presumably there is another strike. i think you can see it in the background, and we've been watching this all morning, a succession of strikes and also rockets coming out other way, tearing over the sky, many of them being intercepted by israel's iron dome missile defense system which has proven extremely effective at stopping any rockets from actually causing damage, intercepting rockets over tel aviv already this morning, and you're right that the range which hamas has been firing is extremely large, a possible range across most of the country. now the israeli defense forces say that they are targeting in those air strikes, things like concealed rocket launchers, weapons, cache, it's possible that the large explosion, the first one, that it was so big hit a weapons cache and then there was a secondary explosion. they have also been targeting what they call hamas command and control centers. often that means nothing more really than the sitting room of a hamas operative, and even thought the israeli defense forces say they make calls to warn people of of an air strike, there are still civilian casualties. there are still children dying in this conflict. the death toll now 76 and clearly it will rise in the gaza strip. kate? >> diana magnay, thank you so. startling to see it play out right behind diana as she's right there on the israel-gaza border. thank you so much. we'll be getting back to you, of course, throughout the show. with us is a cnn military analyst lieutenant colonel rick francona. you don't need to see much more than seeing this and seeing what is playing out behind diana magnay. from what we see and zoom in to show the area, you can see the israel-gaza border, that's where diana is stationed and where she's seeing this firepower being traded become and for the. you really see no signs of this letting up. an important point about this, we've seen this before. the last time we saw this kind of fire exchange was something around november 2012. what's different, it appears this time, is the range, at least one thing that's different, the range of the firepower coming from gaza militants. >> yeah. what they have acquired. syrian-made m-302, long range rocket built by the syrians provided to hamas by the sorryians and the iranians. this rocket can range anywhere in israel. shoots about 100 miles. that's what we're sitting haifa and hedera. >> let's lay it out. previously i understand the firepower hamas had coming from gaza would get the range to about tel aviv, just past tel aviv, and what they are seeing now is the range is reaching some 93 miles into israel which israel says puts two-thirds of its population within range. >> you know, the increased range creates a real problem for the israelis because they have the iron dome, but the only dome can only do point defenses so they have to decide where are we gth going to put these batteries? what cities are we going to defend and you can't defend the whole country. you have to pick these boxes and each box would be about the size of say manhattan. that's what you have to defend. can't defend the whole country and there's a lot of problems with the israelis who say why are they defending those cities and not my city? >> i want to get to the iron dome and how it works in just a second but, first, when you're talking about how this is a new ball game, they are dealing with a different type of range of rocket coming from gaza, how does that change how israel responds? how are they reacting to this? >> well, they are reacting, you know, much stronger than many of us thought. the numbers of sortis that they are putting into gaza right now is astounding. much higher level of operations than they did before because they think there's a much greater threat. >> some of the latest numbers i'm seeing is israel in the last 24 hours hitting over 300 targets. >> right. >> and you've got 100 rockets being launched from gaza, 76 palestinians killed so far. >> but there's a different so far. these are not missiles, they are rockets, no on-board gas oregon. they fire them in the direction of a city hoping that they are going to hit something and it will get through the iron dome. they fire them in volleys hoping to overwhelm the tracking radar for the iron dome. some of them are going to get through. >> let's get to the iron dome. want to get your take, the iron dome defense system and what it is. it's essentially exactly what the word describes, as much as it can be. if missiles are fired and can be targeted then by firepower coming from israel, that's the whole point, that's what it's supposed to do. it is effective. >> oh, it's very effective. >> how does it really work? >> it's nothing more than a radar that -- like our counter battery radar. tracks the trajectory of an incoming rocket, determines where it's going to hit. if it hits within the defended zone, and they have decided we're going to defend this box, if it's going to go into that box, the system engages automatically. >> is there a way to trick it? that's what hamas is trying to do? >> trying to overwhelm it. >> if you fire 40 rockets at one city the iron dome will have to pick which ones am i going to engage. >> as you're saying it's not fail proof because it can't comfort entire country. >> you can't get them all. you can't knock them all down. >> where does this go? how do you see this playing out? it's not going to be easing up any time soon because there is some suggestion or some signaling that there could be a move towards a ground operation which would be a hugest calculation. >> the israelis have already mobilized 20,000 troops. they can mobilize 20,000 more. that gives them the capability to go on a ground incursion into gaza and we see it in 2009, 2012 and can you almost say, well, they are due again. i'm getting the impression from talking to people that neither side really wants to do this. they both feel they are being dragged into this against their will. i don't see a real lost stomach on the part of the israelis to go in there on the ground. they will support the air strikes because they believe they have got to stop these rockets from raining down on the country. >> we've even heard some suggestions, they are just trying to kind of wear out hamas and wear out their artillery. >> well, this is a large number of sortis going into gaza. >> sure s.thanks so much, colonel. thank you, as always. >> today we want to remind you wolf blitzer is going to be anchor "the situation room" from israel. wolf has been there many times and has extensive knowledge of the region, of the ongoing conflict. he is going to be in israel reporting for cnn starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern. michaela? >> we'll look forward to that. great conversation and explanation from the colonel there, kate. thanks so much. let's look at more of your headlines. a gunman accused of murdering six people, including his four children. he is now in custody. he surrendered after a three-hour standoff in the houston area. the suspect also accused of shooting his own 15-year-old daughter in the head. she survived and was able to call 911 to alert police about her father's whereabouts. investigators believe a domestic dispute sparked this deadly rampage. >> in iraq insurgents seize nuclear material from a university in mosul. a letter obtained by cnn shows iraq asking for help to keep it from getting not hands of terrorists. however, the material is not weapons grade which prompts no immediate concern. using a drone strike to kill the leader of isis. much more ahead on "new day." newly released testimony suggests that officials believe two separate groups could have been behind the deadly attacks at u.s. facilities in benghazi back in september 2012. top commanders involved in the u.s. response say the attack on a cia complex that killed two american contractors showed clear signs of military training with attackers likely taking advantage of reports of violence from the night before. that first attack on a u.s. mission killed two others, including ambassador chris stevens. sergeant bowe bergdahl's reintegration process is nearly complete. a military source tells cnn the former taliban prisoner is expected to be assigned to a new army unit soon. he has already taken trips off of his texas army base to get used to everyday life back in america. it's unclear though at this point if bergdahl has had a chance to speak with his family. in the mean phil, this photo has surfaced of bergdahl tschohl showing him posing with a top member of an insurgent group. it's an undated photo posted by the had a the -- by the haqqani network. cnn does not know the picture of this picture. thousands of dinosaur footprints have been discovered in alaska's dinali national park. the 70 million-year-old tracks are so well preserved they actually show details of the dinosaur's skin. scientists say evidence of baby dinosaurs at the site suggest some dinosaurs lived in the far, far north year round back when alaska was a lot warmer. i am volume teeing to go and be the source of the, you know, reporting in alaska. >> you're a tracker. >> you're a dinosaur tracker. >> i'm also obsessed with alaska. i want to do the iditarod. i would like to go up and explore alaska for prints. >> traces of dinosaur skin. they have very nice skin. >> really? 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>> and republicans, many of them rejecting president obama's plan to deal with the influx of children at the u.s. border. what will conservatives do? what's their idea? we'll take a look at all of the ideas "inside politics." really... so our business can be on at&t's network for $175 dollars a month? yup. all five of you for $175. our clients need a lot of attention. there's unlimited talk and text. we're working deals all day. you get 10 gigabytes of data to share. what about expansion potential? add a line anytime for 15 bucks a month. low dues... great terms... let's close. introducing at&t mobile share value plans... ...with our best-ever pricing for business. and welcome back to "new day." here's a look at your headlines. in the middle east, israeli authorities have suspended a police officer they say was involved in this brutal beating of an american teen in jerusalem last week. there are no signs of tensions easing meanwhile between israel and hamas. air strikes are being launched right now at the gaza strip. more than 120 rockets fired into israel in the last day. several of them intercepted by the israeli defense system. just into cnn now, the mother of the toddler who died in a hot car in georgia has just retained a defense attorney. leanna harris has not been charged with anything, but she has been eyed in the investigation. her husband justin ross harris has been charged with murder in his son's death accused of intentionally leaving him for seven hours in a sweltering suv for hours. chinese computer hackers tried to access u.s. government employee data according to the "new york times." in the report federal officials say hackers south out information on thousands of government employees who applied for top secret security clearances. the department of homeland security says there's no indication any personally identifiable information was taken. the first person to legally buy recreational marijuana in spokane, washington just lost his job because of it. michael boyer, a security guard, was featured in local news coverage buying weed on tuesday when it became legal in the state, but immediately after, you kind of saw this coming, his employer asked him to take a drug test which he obviously failed, and he was fired. >> something we'll have to figure out with all this legalization where is going to be the gray line? >> bob boyer is jobless and frustrated. he says he regrets nothing. he's still the first person to buy weed in this city and no one can take that away from him, he says. >> he'll have that and his bag of weed but no job. >> that is something that they need to talk about in colorado as well. it might be legal here, but you need to look to your employer and it still might be their policy. >> there's a big difference there j might want to check that out ahead of time. >> good advice, michaela. good advice, michaela. good advice, check with your employer first. let's get to "inside politics" on "new day." >> whatever michaela tells me to do, i do. it's good policy to go, and, yeah, well, if i -- never mind, not even going to touch that story. not going there. lots to talk about "inside politics" and we'll focus almost exclusively on the crisis to share their reporting and insight. lisa lair and jonathan martin. sometimes the optics get in the way of a substantive conversation and i think that's the case here. president of the united states was in texas yesterday. he did not go to the border. democrats and republicans say go, but the president says that is silly. let's talk about the problem, not where i'm standing at the moment. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo-ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> and i would say rick perry, the governor of texas, who met with the president yesterday, and reeel talk about the policy in a moment and louie gutierrez, democrat, they feel if nothing else the president should get it over with and go there. >> it's not theater. the american people expect to see their president when there's a disaster. he showed up at sandy. why can't he show up on the border of texas? >> what i believe is the president should have gone down to the border. >> but, louie. >> he should have embraced those children and said this is the united states of america. i'm going to follow the law, and i'm going to protect these kids. >> i want to -- i want to -- >> is this, lisa, just a matter now of stubborn pride. the white house says we've sent everybody else in the administration, the homeland security secretary is going back for his sixth, seventh or maybe eighth visit to the border. what is the harm in the president going? do they think it's a trap? >> the issue is that's that it's not a photo -op but it's a bad photo-op. the president wants to make sure it's a crisis blamed equally on the republicans and democrats. they send the president down there, that footage is played again and again as congress drags this out. they keep showing that and, you know, it ends up looking like obama is significantly more to blame. >> he can pick his photo op if he wants to be seen with border security officials, he can do that standing by a fence. this president is contemptuous of the rituals of politics in so many cases. he can't stand the fact that you have to play a certain role, but the fact is, john, as you know, the presidency is about symbolism in a lot of ways, and the president, when there's a crisis of some kind, are expected to be seen there. is it more of a surface thing? is it a photo-op as the president says, okay, that's part of the ritual but nevertheless that's what presidents often do. >> you have a big crisis like this. one of our tests of pop culture is whether it breaks through into late night comedy. talked about this yesterday on the program. not like the president is averse to all photo-ops, fist bumping with a guy in a gorilla suit, drinking beer with the governor of colorado. hard for him to say he doesn't do photo-ops when he's doing photo d.a. ops. jimmy fallon noticed. >> met a guy who came up to him wearing a horse mask. look at the picture. this is -- i don't want to say people in colorado are smoking too much weed, but that was the governor. >> jimmy fallon having a little fun with this, but let's move on to the hard stuff. let's move on to the hard stuff. the president made a point, and i want you to listen to him here. after this meeting with governor perry, a political standoff. governor perry has used this to raise his national payoff. he wants the republican governor to call the republicans in congress and say, hey, wait a minute. if you look at the list of what you say the president should do and what the president says he wants to do, there's a lot of common ground. the president says why can't we cut a deal? >> he suggested, well, maybe you just need to go ahead and act, and that might convince republicans that they should go ahead and pass the supplemental and i had to remind him that i'm getting sued by mr. boehner apparently for going ahead and acting instead of going through congress. >> do they have to at least ask other people to handle this. they so distrust each other that they can't look at a peeves paper. the president says it's open, doesn't think it's the best idea, but open to the national guard which a lot of republicans have said to do. the republicans say this is a cries and you need stricter border enforcement. the president says you need money to get stricter boarder enforcement, have to hire people to put more agents down there. if you want to send the kids home the law requires that most of them get some kind of legal process before you send them home. the republicans think you can solve this by saying no to the president? ultimately they will have to give him some money? >> the politics on this are rough on both sides and the problem is that it's not a political question. it's also a moral question and i think you really saw that come out in the president's remarks yesterday. he looked terrible, looked tired and stressed, and that's because he's sort of caught between what he can do politically which is basically he has to send these kids home and what he is thinking morally which is he knows if he sends these kids home they are likely to face extreme poverty, violence, potentially death and he's really in a tough spot and i think republicans, too, are in a difficult spot and that's why it's such a tough issue on both sides. >> the conservative senator, tom coburn, seen him on many issues, has a heart and he says give them a first class ticket and put them on a plane and send them home. again, the administration says the majority, and we can talk about what that means what, percentage will go home, but these are children in many cases. some of them have some health issues. the law that passed unanimously in 2008 when george bush was president says if they come from guatemala, come from el salvador they get a legal process. what is it that the republicans want to do that this president won't do? >> well, look, the republicans want to try to use this to say this president won't secure the border, that this is his fall and cast blame on him, but the president here i thought was very shrewd, john, yesterday in using the opportunity to visit with governor perry, to use governor perry to say tell your party to give me the money, and then to follow up with that he showed his comment there a minute ago saying i can't just act alone here. the entire rap against me by your party is the fact that that's what i do so he's trying to go through the congress and it was smart of him yesterday to sort of use governor perry as a lever to try to rally the republicans to give him the money to address the issue >> you mentioned it's hard for both parties. is it just distrust that they can't go no a room and sort this out in the sense that if you've got 50,000, 60,000 children at the border and the administration says, and, again, the administration will have to give you a better number at some point. they say a majority will go back, 51%, 85%, but even glenn beck is saying send down teddy bears and soccer balls, and we can laugh about that, but they are children, and the -- the process is so mired in this political silliness and distrust and dysfunction that why can't they go in a room and say, look, we'll go out and fight but first you can't surge the border without paying for it. you can't surge the processing without paying for it, can't put them on a plane and send them home without paying for it. how do they figure it out? >> of course it's not just that there's all this distrust which, of course, there is, after six years of the obama administration where they haven't made much of an effort to reach out to congress. it's also the mid terms, right, so they are both in tough spots here. republicans, most republican districts have a very small numbers of latt nose in their districts. i think everyone is not only -- it's not only distrust, it's also these looming elections. >> so everything gets caught up in our politics. >> can't take two weeks in july and figure this problem out and have an election. >> if they can't figure out a humanitarian crisis of kids 8 and 9 years old at the board we are no parents there, by the thousands, what can they do? >> what can they do? we'll end on that note because that's the question we'll be asking tomorrow and the day after and the day after. >> jonathan, lisa, thanks. >> that's the disfupgs. i get a little craze beit sometimes, but i don't understand. i do get the politics. lisa made a great point this matters to both parties in a turnout year, but if you have a crisis and they agree it's a crisis and a huge problem, can't take a day or two, go into a private room and figure out at least two or three things. >> we were just saying that was an excellent, excellent point and a great conversation. why not just take two weeks in july, ham ter out and then have your election. it's an excellent point. >> because it comes off to the american people that they don't care about it. that's the problem. >> which is why they need to stay on it and why they need to talk about it despite whatever political discomfort it appears to create with them and their base. >> in the absence of it, and as we so in the conversation with rick perry last night, no one is ready to jump first. they are all just pointing fingers right now. >> nobody is ready to go first. >> john king, great to have you with us, a great discussion this morning. >> coming up next on "new day," the leader of isis now under the watchful eye of the united states as officials are considering a lethal drone attack. details on that ahead. 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his appearance for the first time at a crowded mosque in northern iraq raising the question why wasn't he killed outright. >> ready to fire. >> reporter: cnn has learned the pentagon is considering under what circumstances it would recommend to president obama that al baghdadi be targeted for killing by a missile-equipped drone. >> the good thing about going after al baghdadi would be that it would decapitate isis as we know it. >> reporter: u.s. has long had a $10 million reward on al baghdadi's head. no one will directly say he is on a kill list, but u.s. officials tell cnn that intelligence is being gathered on so-called high-value targets in iraq. president obama would have to approve any decision to kill al baghdadi. several conditions would have to be met. first, that he poses a threat to the u.s. pentagon officials have said isis does threaten the u.s. embassy and americans in iraq. then, would the intelligence be precise enough to target him without risking civilian casualties. militants like al baghdadi know the u.s. will not strike a mosque and would not risk killing large numbers of civilians. more difficult to determine, what would killing al baghdadi accomplish? >> killing al baghdadi might cause a problem for the leadership of the islamic state, but it's not going to stop the movement. people are still going to flock to the caliphate. what happens is if you kill baghdadi, you may drive people sitting on the fence to do just that. >> reporter: there's no indication a hit to kill mission against baghdadi is imminent, but the u.s. is collecting all the intelligence it can in iraq, reson sans flights have now increased from 30 a day to 50 a day. back to you guys in new york. >> barbara starr at the pentagon for us. barbara, thank you so much. coming up next on "new day," he's the most famous baby in the world. it was almost one year ago that little prince george made his highly anticipated debut. do we all remember? yes, we do. we take a look back at his big first year. plus, equally important, a pop star busted when this raw tune went viral. ♪ but the stars in the sky look like home ♪ ♪ take me home, take me home >> why her producers is coming to her defense. is that defensible? 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>> a crown, a septer. >> just go to walmart for that one. he's had a pretty eventful year, being born of course, that big trip abroad to australia and new he did loond with his parents. tomorrow cnn is taking a look at the newest royal's big year that everyone watched so closely with personal stories from those who were there, of course, looking into those intimate moments, including with the photographer who captured his christening. he spoke to us exclusively. here's a look at "cnn spotlight: the little prince." >> he really is a charming little fellow, definitely. >> jason bell had a front row seat. he was the photographer hand picked by william and kate to capture this historic event. he told us exclusively about his first meeting with the royal couple. >> i got a call saying, you know, come and have a cup of tea with the duke and duchess. >> reporter: a meeting that went so well, bell was hired and by all accounts was able to deliver, capturing unique, almost candid moments with the family. >> prince just putting his arms up. you can't script that moment. it's a sweet moment because it feels very real. they're real parents and he's a real baby. >> reporter: and the real great grandson of a doting great grandmother, the queen, who bell caught for one moment gazing at george, while everyone else looked at the camera. >> i didn't say to the queen, you know, "you must now look at prince george" but she did and we caught that moment. >> remember, this was no ordinary christening, and no ordinary photo shoot. this day was historic, especially this moment. it's the first time a queen and three generations of heirs have been photographed together in more than 100 years. >> it feels like a moment in time. you know, you know that this person will be king one day, and you know, he is being presented to the world. >> that of course is cnn spotlight, the little prince, airing tomorrow, friday, 10:00 p.m. eastern right here on cnn. it really was a lot of fun to take a look back at the big year of this big little boy. >> hasrd to believe he's already a year old. >> he's a year old, talking complete sentences. >> driving. >> getting ready to rule. can he name all of the dominions in the empire. >> all of the dominions? also looks at how william and kate are doing the royal parenting kind of in their own way. it's the good news story of the year. let's embrace it, people. >> friday we can't wait to see it. you'll also enjoy our must see moment because i believe it might have been picked by you. listen to britney spears' song "alien." ♪ hope the stars in the sky looks like homes ♪ ♪ take me home >> and now feast your ears on the raw audio of that same song that is now burning up the interweb. ♪ hope the stars in the sky look like homes, take me home ♪ >> as you can imagine the response on the internet has not been kind. the song's producer took to his facebook page to defend the pop star saying "i'd like to affirm any singer when first at the mike at the start of a long session can make a multitude of vocalizations in order to get warmed up. i've heard all manners of sounds emitted during warmups. the point is that it is not supposed to be shared with millions of listeners." so here's the question. britney has always been some would say more of an entertainer than a singer. how much does it matter that she auto tunes, and is it just mean-spirited to have leaked this audio? >> it matters roughly zero percent. you are not going to britney spears concert because she's luciano pavarotti. i say this as somebody who saw milli vanilli in concert. she sang a b flat instead of a b, i think it was fine. >> it's mean-spirited. >> it is mean-spirited but you know. >> it's publicity i'm sure she's taking to the bank. >> we don't people to listen to us when we do karaoke. >> or see us without makeup. >> excellent point. i will admit one of my first concerts was a britney spears concert. >> oh, stop. next up for us on "new day" congress considering president obama's $4 billion plan to try to solve the crisis at the border but as thousands of children continue crossing into the country illegally, is this too little too late? plus senator rand paul talks about new efforts to reform the criminal justice system. there's a key word involved here, bipartisan efforts. what was that word? bipartisan efforts. shocking, i know. that's ahead. i've had surgery, and yes, i have occasional constipation. that's why i take doctor recommended colace capsules. 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"true detective" facing off with "breaking bad." will there be any major surprises or snubs? we'll bring it to you live and break them down. >> your "new day" continues right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning, and welcome once again to "new day" everyone. it's thursday, july 10th, 8:00 in the east. john berman is here. chris is off. we begin with the urgent crisis unfolding on the u.s./mexico border with the future of tens of thousands of kids in the balance. president obama's urging congress to take swift action on his $3.7 billion request, also telling critics who are pressing him to visit the border that "this isn't theater." homeland security secretary jay johnson will push the president's plan during a senate hearing today. all of this following president obama's meeting with texas governor rick perry. senior white house correspondent jim acosta is following it all for us. so jim, where do we go from here? >> reporter: exactly kate, that's right, with this meeting with republican governor rick perry behind him, president obama will spend one more day down in texas, but without a trip down to the border. this as the president will be heading back to washington later today with his border plan very much up in the air. for president obama and texas governor rick perry, the showdown was more of a sitdown, chatting in private on marine one, and at different ends of a roundtable discussion in dallas at the crisis on the border. >> just had a good meeting with governor perry. >> reporter: the president later told reporters his beef is not with perry. it's with congress, over his nearly $4 billion request to deal with the emergency. >> are folks more interested in politics or are they more interested in solving the problem? if they're interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. >> reporter: perry was less charitable, releasing a statement calling for the national guard and more drones on the border, adding "the crisis has been created by bad public policy in particular the failure to secure the border." back in washington, critics from both parties slammed the president's decision to attend fund-raisers in texas. >> he's visiting democratic fat cats to collect checks -- >> reporter: instead of traveling to the border. >> it does bother me. i wish the president of the united states were going down and visiting the children and visiting the site. >> reporter: the president wasn't budging. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. >> reporter: white house officials are worried critics just might kill the border bill. >> the person that just asked for $3.7 billion for less than $20 million we can fly them all back first class. so think about how stupid our policy is. >> reporter: as the president told perry, he won't use an executive action this time around. >> and i had to remind him, i'm getting sued right now by mr. boehner apparently for going ahead and acting instead of going through congress. >> reporter: the white house is also seeking new legal authorities for the administration to speed up deportations for the children coming in from central america. bipartisan bill designed to do that will do that later on today. as you mentioned kate and john, there are various senior administration officials testifying on the crisis on capitol hill later today. i've been told by a white house official they are expected to warn congress that unless they get that emergency funding for the border, they could run out of space for all of those children who are coming in from south of the border. john? kate? >> jim, you point out they're introducing legislation but especially these days, that is a far way from getting the president to sign something. >> reporter: doesn't mean it will pass, that's right. >> jim acosta at the white house, thanks, jim. >> reporter: you bet. i had a chance to speak with governor rick perry after he met with the president. here's a bit of our conversation. you meet with the president after quite a bit of fan fare. he leaves the meeting saying that some of what you said he thinks makes quite a bit of sense. how would you describe the meeting? are you guys on the same page? >> i certainly think what i said made a lot of sense, so, and i don't know whether we're on the same page or not. the president said philosophically agreed with the things that i talked about, because i said we need to secure the border. you need to put these national guard troops on there. we need to change these policies that are enticing people to come to the united states and these policies that i'm talking about are where that if you're from one of the central american countries rather than from mexico, you're treated differently. these incentives if you will that if you come into the united states, you can be safe. stop the policies and secure the border. at that particular point in time it staunches substantially the flow of individuals then the united states border patrol can get back to what they're supposed to do, being on guard for those either drug dealers or those with terrorist ties back that are penetrating or attempting to penetrate our border. >> you have requested that he still come down to the border. you're saying it's important to see. he says he doesn't want to be part of theater, that he's not interested in photo-ops. >> that's not theater. >> he's basically saying that's what that would be. >> it's not theater. the american people expect to see their president when there is a disaster. he showed up at sandy. why can't he show up on the border of it etexas? >> do you honestly believe as you said in the interview last month that the administration might be in on this somehow? you're suggesting there's some kind of conspiracy here. >> no, what i'm suggesting is that this administration and their words and their actions or the lack thereof are part of the problem. i think you're putting the words of conspiracy in my mouth, which i did not say. >> no, you actually did say the word "i hate to be conspiratorial but --" >> and i hate to be conspiratorial. i hate to be conspiratorial. i did not say i was. >> how can you move that many people from central america across mexico, and then into the united states without a fairly coordinated effort?" i'm asking you, governor. >> i don't know and there is, i totally understand but the real issue here rather than getting into semantics battle is whether or not this president is going to lead this country. >> can you work hand in hand with a president that you criticized so harshly on an issue that is so important to you? can you get past the politics? >> i did today. so i suspect we will. >> let's talk more about this, bring ruben navarrette, columnist for "the daily beast." thanks for coming back. lot has happened since yesterday morning. rick perry, one of the harshest critics of president obama especially on his handling of the issue and other republicans as well following the president coming tout speak yesterday, john cornyn said this, "texans do not need a lecture from a man who refuses to see the crisis firsthand. president obama can fund raise and issue statements. texans will work to solve the problem." makes me wonder what happens next, rueben? >> right, i think that's a fair statement by senator cornyn and although at the end of the day, texas is going to need the united states government and the additional funding to solve the problem so you sort of have mixed messages coming out of the lone star state but i think what happened yesterday in dallas was not really a showdown or even a sitdown as jim acosta said but it was a show, not a showdown but a show, and i find it interesting that the president said he didn't want to be part of theater by going down to the border but in fact he held this major performance up in dallas, where he and rick perry metaphor 15 minutes at love field, the airport in dallas, 15 minutes, 500 miles from the border. this was really a fraud perpetuated by both men on those of us who would like to see more leadership on this issue. you have this major crisis as we've been reporting for several weeks now down on the border and it really requires that our elected officials bring their "a" game. this wasn't it. >> i'm getting the sense one thing that's become clear after yesterday and my conversation with the governor and hearing from other republicans that no one wants to jump first and take a step here. i want to get your take on one thing that governor perry said to me in terms what have his prescription is, where things need to go. he says that the president should move first, that first you need to put national guardsmen at the border, especially the texas border for obviously his state, and once you secure the border you storm the surge and then you can deal with the humanitarian crisis of the kids here. is that a viable prescription? >> right. yes, it is. there should be national guard troops on the border and not just along the texas border, but you have four border states, it would be good to put some amount of national guard troops on those borders as well in arizona, new mexico and california and here's why. people always have the image and i fall prey to this as well that when we say national guard troops on the border you're going to have soldiers with guns on the border fending off a "invasion." this isn't an invasion and not what would happen. george bush twice before used the national guard and what they did, they went down, virtually unarmed as backup for the border patrol. they fix vehicles, handle clerical work and let the border patrol go into the field and do their job. he ought do it, it makes perfect sense >> listen to what president obama said talking about the partisan politics in washington when it comes to this issue. listen to this. >> if i sponsored a bill declaring apple pie american, it might fall victim to partisan politics. i get that. >> he says he gets that. we all know that politics in washington are more partisan, more divided than they ever have been before, but if an issue like this, that everyone calls urgent, everyone says it needs immediate action and everyone calls a human tare yab crisis that involves tens of thousands of kids, if that can't break through, what's gonna? >> it's an important question and good yes. we hope it would break through and for the good of the country, for the good of the kids and the border states, they can put aside their partisan difference. the president is being hypocritical. if you listened carefully to his comments yesterday frachb dallas he took jabs at the republicans all through the remarks. if republicans had only passed the immigration bill we'd have twice as many border patrol agents, if they could stop playing politics we'd have a deal right now. the president wants to pretend he's nonpartisan and then take the partisan swipes at the republicans. on the other hand the republicans have a dilemma as well, they have a war about to brew, about to start and break out between the border hawks and the spending hawks, and the budget hawks versus the budget hawks. they won't want to spend $3.7 billion but the border hawks realize it's necessary. we'll see the gop sort of devour itself over the issue. ultimately i think the border hawks will win, the president will get his funding. >> the question is, how long will it take? you're also up against a congressional calendar, about to be leaving for the august recess, gets you one step closer to midterm elections and as we well know unfortunately that means little happens. ruben navarrette, great to see you, thank you. >> thank you. let's look at your headlines at 11 minutes past the hour. breaking news, the house side of the u.s. capitol building has been shut down following a construction incident, apparently a piece of ceiling fell down overnight, exposing a chemical substance in the work area. there are reports some workers were removing asbestos. cnn has not been able to confirm that. this situation is not considered suspicious. hazmat crews though are on the scene. in the middle east, israeli officials have suspended a police officer they say was involved in the brutal beating of an american teen in jerusalem last week captured on tape there. this is a new wave of fire being launched right now near the gaza strip. president obama is defending israeli air strikes but is cautioning against a ground attack into gaza. today wolf blitzer will anchor "the situation room" from israel. tune in starting at 5:00 p.m. eastern. you might recall the u.s. marine imprisoned for driving to mexico with three firearms is going to stay behind bars for now. sergeant andrew tahmooressi was optimistic he'd be freed after wednesday's hearing. not so, though. his next court date happens in a few weeks' time. tahmooressi's defense said there were irregularities with search records of his truck. for his part he maintains he took a wrong turn on the california side of the border in to tijuana back in march. those are your headlines. next up on "new day," donald sterling getting back on the witness stand, lashing out against the nba and calling his wife a pig. the latest on the dramatic day in court. at panera bread, we fill our freshly baked flatbread with bold, unflat flavors. like taste inspired by the freshness of the mediterranean. so you always get flavor that's anything but flat. new flatbread sandwiches, try one today. your studied day and night for her driver's test. secretly inside, you hoped she wouldn't pass. the thought of your baby girl driving around all by herself was... you just weren't ready. but she did pass. 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"get away from me, you pig" he said, and then muttered "shelley, how could you lie?" the judge admonished him saying his comments were disturbing. >> it was a shameful display by a seriously demented tyrant. >> i no he that donald felt very upset by watching her testimony. i think he felt betrayed by it. >> reporter: betrayed because he thought his wife deceived him why she hired doctors to examine him. "i trusted her. i believed her. i never thought that a woman would not stand by her husband," donald testified. shelley sterling testified "he's getting more forgetful. he gets mad for no particular reason. he's just not the same person that he used to be" she said. donald didn't agree, saying he is still the man in charge and his wife could never run all his corporations, including the trust that owns the clippers. to say someone else can take over is ludicrous," he testified. sterling also blasted the nba. he called it a joke, the worst corporation in america, and then made this promise. 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>> well the first one was george being the quiet beatle. >> that was well-known nickname. >> why was he known as the quiet beatle? >> because if you look at the pictures they gave you the day before "the ed sullivan show" pictures of george and i and you can see on his face how ill he was. he had strength throat, his temperature was 104 degrees. when the doctor from the plaza hotel said "question immediate to put this young man in hospital, he's very, very ill" and the manager brian epstein just about a heart attack, they almost needed to take him to hospital. anyway, i was there with them and they said okay, move her into the bedroom, give her the medications to take care of him and we'll have him on his feet by sunday night. >> he was quiet because he wasn't feeling well, he was so sick. >> exactly. >> fascinating. >> and the doctor said to him, "try to save your voice. don't say anything." >> you saved the beatles. appearing on "the ed sullivan show." give credit where credit is due. nursed him back to help and they exploded on the american scene with the show and changed the course of the world forever. congratulations. >> but it was a long haul, though, getting that to happen, because back in '63, i had moved into this country in march, and my mom started sending me all of the singles that were coming out, and where the title of my book comes from, i was going to the radio stations and saying "this is my kid brother's band and they're number one in england. maybe you should be playing them here. request. >> what'd they say to you? >> for the most part they looked at me like, who let you out of the kitchen, young lady, that was paing in those days. >> absolutely. it seems almost crazy to think of this, but was there a time where you wondered maybe it won't happen for them, maybe they won't get that big break they need? >> we weren't even thinking in terms of a big break. we were in terms of getting their records played. >> look at that now. >> yes. >> did you ever imagine it would be what it is, and what it was? >> not really. you know, because even years later i was with george and we were watching the films of them come down the steps from the plane >> such iconic images. >> and he said to me, "you know if we had any idea how important that trip was going to be, we probably would have been scared stiff," he said, "but as it was we were jolly little cheeky boys having fun." >> at "the ed sullivan show" when you were there and heard the screams, did you gather that that was the moment, that was a moment? >> yes. you know, it took a long time for this all to sink in. one of the cute things about it, too, was ed sullivan is always known to be kind of stiff. he was having a blast with the beatles, because they included him as though he was one of the gang. >> great. >> let's talk about the scene. >> yes. >> was it always fun? you went on tour with them for years really. >> not actually on tour. what happened was i was accidentally made into a beatle reporter because -- >> i'm sure completely objective. >> absolutely. well, the ohm completely objective one, because i corrected something that had happened, the british ambassador's house the day before, well, evening before we did the colosseum show, i corrected that missed story and the next thing was the producer of that radio station said, will you come done and do beatle reports for us each day because there's so much crazy stuff going about them. you'd be in a position to know the truth. >> you really kept a low profile for a very, very long time. why is that? >> yes, why would you? >> well, my brother, especially after john was killed, my brother said to me, "you know, stay invisible" he said "because there are so many looneys figure because you're connected to me at least they get their name in the paper for five minutes." >> was this a big decision to talk about it and start writing this book? >> well, actually it was at the beginning of the '90s that i decided to, and i talked to george about this, i started, i have two grandchildren at that point. >> congratulations. >> and stopped at that, but i was very, very concerned about the future of the health of the planet, and so i started an environmental organization which was called drop-in, you know, the idea was that dropping out wasn't really a smart thing to do. so at that point i talked to george and i said look, i'm now older than my mom and dad were when they died. i'm not scared, and i think that maybe my connection to the beatles could help to get some, you know, some momentum going. >> attention, sure. >> because paul mccartney concert i was talking to a bunch of the fans, he was doing stuff about peter and friends of the world, friend of the earth, and they were saying, why don't we have a beatle environmental organization and they asked me to start one, so that's what i did. >> louise, we could sit and listen to your stories all day. i'm so glad you're writing this book. it is going to be a read we won't be able to put down. thank you for joining us to tell us some stories about your kid brother. thanks for sharing. cnn's original series "the '60s" airing tonight at 9:00 eastern and pacific. tune in, set the dvr and enjoy. >> the beatles craze. next up for us on "new day," changing the criminal justice system. senator rand paul joins us live to talk about rehabilitating non-violent offenders and bipartisanship. look, there's a democrat and a republican sitting together there. >> no. >> what's going on? 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>> one of the biggest impediments to employment in our country is having a criminal record, so what we said is for people who had non-violent felonies, non-violent crimes, mostly drug possession and minor drug sale crimes that if you served your time, wouldn't we want to you get a job rather than to go back into a life of crime, but you can't get a job a lot of times with a criminal record. this has, i've become very aware of this, i met a lot of people. i go into some communities i meet people who are ministers say i changed my life but when i was 19 i did something wrong and i still have trouble getting employment because of it. so it is a big problem. i think it's the right thing to do, and senator booker has been great to work with and we're happy we have a bipartisan bill here. >> convicted of pot or certain drug crimes wipe it clean. there would be no record of all? >> right. for kids it does it automatically. for adults, it has to be a year after you've gotten out of jail, you have to apply through a judge to get it. we tried to make it as easy as possible, but we still wanted there to be a process and a review process but yeah, i think once you've served your time, you should get your rights back. i think the same for voting, and i've actually worked with the majority leader, senator reid is a cosponsor for restoring rights to people who served their time. >> you found a receptive audience in senator booker, speaking to the white house about this and the attorney general and found a receptive audience there as well. >> i spoke with the president this week about a few of these criminal justice issues. he's indicated a desire to help push some of these issues. senator mike lee and dick durbin have one on mandatory minimums. i worked with senator leahy on mandatory minimums. there's a lot of criminal justice issues, we kind of went crazy in the '80s but we went too far and i think the public is ready to have a little bit more of an understanding position with the law that maybe we should get a second chance >> some of these convictions, some of the people being quharnld these crimes it false disproportionately along racial lines, doesn't it? >> three out of four people in prison are black or brown for non-violent drug crimes. however when you look at drug use across the board, white kids are using drugs as much as black and brown kids but they don't get incarcerated as much. 80% of the public is white so how do we get to three out of four in prison are black or brown? is there a racial outcome to the war on drugs and we need to make sure we're not incarcerating people because of the color of their skin or their economic status. >> a lot of us in the media right now are making a lot out of the fact you're doing this in a bipartisan way. senator rand paul, republican from kentucky, senator corey booker democrat from new jersey, they're working together. oh my god! stop the presses! why does this seem like such a surprise? >> because we hear of a lot of acrimony in washington. i think what you'll find is interesting, i don't want to characterize senator booker but he has the ability to get beyond partisansh partisanship. i perceive myself also, i'm not locked into whatever the party says on every issue. i want to be part of what the party becomes but it doesn't mean that republicans and democrats can't have areas in common. i think criminal justice is one that brings the right and the left together. >> you know, you have been in the senate for a relatively short period of time but your father was in the house. you've certainly observed politics at the national level for a long, long time. have you ever seen partisanship that's so dug in, that's so fierce? >> you know, i think it really has gotten kind of oat of control in the senate where no legislation is moving. it's been a while with a divided government, republican house, democrat senate so it's inevitable a lot of things won't move very quickly but i try to encourage people, and i've talked to the democrat leadership and i'm saying why don't we send some things to conference committee and maybe split the difference. there are some principles on the right to trial by jury i'm not willing to split the difference. however on what the tax rate is to let companies bring money home from overseas, i've told senator reid i'll split the difference. if you want.5 and i want 5, we could go for 7, 7.5 and we could split the difference and a lot of that money, there's $2 trillion overseas but senator reid and i have been talking for about three months about ways to bring that money home and put that tax revenue into the road fund because the road fund is short. >> it sounds like in some cases you're agreeing with something the president just said on the issue of partisan ship. you notice that partisanship is often getting in the way of progress. the president yesterday was talking about partisanship getting in the way of dealing with the border crisis right now. we have a lot of immigrants in this country. the president said "if i sponsored a bill declaring apple pie american, it might fall victim to the partisan issues right now." do you think he has a point? >> i would say there are some that will oppose the president no matter what he says, but i would say that myself and many others are willing to work with him if he wants to actually work with us, but here's the deal. immigration reform has to be a compromise, so for example, or even this situation on the border. it can't be hey, here's what i want, give me everything i want. it has to be in between what democrats and republicans want and there is a way to do it but the only way do you it is you can't be insistent it has to be comprehensive. it may have to be sectioned off into smaller bills to get passed >> i'm asking you this in the spirit of the bipartisan effort that you're involved in right now corey booker. you talk about the bipartisan effort there. we're asking for a bipartisan effort on the issue of immigration. when you hear a republican like sarah palin, the vice presidential nominee a few years ago, say that president obama should be impeached because of what he's done on immigration, does that help the possibility for compromise? >> well, you know, that's not my position, and what i would say on particularly on immigration that we have to figure out if he with want to figure out the solution, part of the problem with all those kids coming up from central america is they believe and they've been told that they've got a free place to stay and the president won't send them home. so we can't send the wrong signals and that's why conservatives like myself who are for immigration reform we say the border has to be secure first before you do anything to accommodate those who are here. >> i agree there's a discussion about the signals and the policy but on the issue of signals, do you think calling on the president to be impeached sends the wrong signal toward compromise? >> it's not my position and i'm not calling for that. >> what is the next thing you can talk about? you're talking about sentencing right now and even talking about that for a long time, talked about marijuana laws, you talked about that for a long time as well. where is another issue you might be able to find bipartisan compromise? >> criminal justice say big one. the other one i've spent the last two or three months on is trying to figure out a way to pay for our roads and bridges, the repatriation, bringing money home from overseas. there's $2 trillion overseas and it's never coming home if we don't change the tax code. the problem in washington is really not acrimony so much as it's status quo. everybody in washington says oh no, we're keeping that for tax reform. guess what? tax reform may never come in divided government. is one item of tax reform and the longer we wait the more likely companies are to move headquarters overseas, to merge with european and asian companies and never bring that money home. so i'd like to see all that money come flooding home. when we did this in 2005, $300 billion came home. there's twice as much money now. i think $600 billion is a lot of money that would come home to help create jobs in our country. >> senator i want to ask you a foreign policy question. the pentagon is discussing the possibility of targeting isis's al baghdadi with a drone strike in iraq. is that something you support from? >> bombs are war and war is supposed to come from the legislature. the congress is specific, they didn't want the president to have unilateral war power. the president has power to repel attack, eminent threats. if we're going to make the decision to go back into iraq i've been saying for a long time that we need to vote again. one generation can't bind another generation. the use of force they passed in 2003 is surely not binding on next generation. we should vote again in congress whether or not we want to go back and get involved in the war in iraq. >> senator rand paul i thank you very much for being with us and i thank you for the picture of you sitting on stage with senator corey booker. i think that's the type of thing we all need to see a lot more of on a wide range of issues so thank you sir. >> thank you. >> michaela? >> couldn't agree more, john. time for the five things you need to know for your "new day." where is my music? ♪ there it is. jay johnson will push the president's $3.7 billion border crisis fix during a senate hearing. house republicans made it clear there won't be a speedy vote. the israeli prime minister vowed to increase the assault on hamas and terrorist organizations in gaza. at least 78 palestinians have been killed in the conflict. pentagon officials say the u.s. is considering a drone strike to kill the leader of isis. the mission would have to get approval, though, from the president. police are now saying that the man accused of killing four children inside a texas home is not believed to be their father. ron lee haskell is accused of killing two adults before he surrendered to police. it is believed he was married to a family member in the home. and at number five the world cup final is set, germany facing argentina sunday, despite a goal-less 120 minutes, argentina advanced to the final by edging past the netherlands in a shoot-out, the world cup anxiety is almost over. we're always updating the five things to know. go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. >> i don't think we'll see a loss no matter what it is like with brazil. >> i hope we don't see a game like we saw yesterday. that bim was bor-ing! >> help us out, please. coming up next, the 2012 prime time emmy nominations. >> 2014. >> hello. it's 8:23 and 2014. thanks, john. our team will look at the nominees and make our picks for winners. when salesman alan ames books his room at laquinta.com, he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. so he knows exactly when he can check in and power up before his big meeting. and when alan gets all powered up, ya know what happens? 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>> you thought it would get nominated. damian lewis not nominated. claire danes was nominated. "breaking bad" nominated, "downton abby" game of thrones, madmen, house of cards and true detective which snuck in and knocked homeland out of the block. >> we get further down this path where cable is dominant. >> netflix is changing this as well. >> this has been the trend since about 2010 that we've seen cable kind of take over the drama categories and you're right, kate, we're seeing netflix make an impact here. >> they have a footprint. >> the definition of tv is changing. >> last year "house of cards" got a lot of nominations and only one win. they didn't win the big drama prize. now they have a chance. >> i'm not sure about that. >> let's look at lead actor and lead actress in a drama. >> lead actor in a drama category, this was also a good one. i think this is one of the more competitive categories. bryan cranston, nominated for "breaking bad" of course, kevin spa spacey for house of cards, matthew mcconaughey and woody harrells harrellson. if matthew mcconaughey wins he'll be the first actor to take home an oscar and emmy in the same year, jeff daniels and john hamm. there was a question if john hamm would be nominated. people ask did we forget about "madmen" apparently not. >> did we forget about "game of thrones"? >> i don't think we forgot in the big picture but the actor categories, yes, they got snubbed. lot of people thought that amelia clark would. we saw damian lewis, like i mentioned before passed over. >> how about best actress in a drama series. >> is this the most competitive race. i wrote down a list of 13 people who could have been nominated easily last night. this was a tough one. claire danes a nomination, michelle dockery, juliana ma marguiles is back this year, robin wright for "house of cards" and kerry washington for "scand "scandal." >> i'm glad to see kerry washington in "scandal" one of the few broadcast network representations. >> and "the good wife," too. >> and lizzy kaplan and "masters of sex" one of my favorites. >> from "mean girls." >> yes, she got her start in "mean girls." >> not necessarily what she wants to be known for. >> comedy categories they have more "the big bang theory" nominated, "modern family" which has won four years in a row. >> stop on that one. can they win five years in a row? >> i kind of hope they don't. i'd be rooting for "veep" and "louie" and "sill vicon valley." >> brian was letting you know "orange is the new black" was nominated for outstanding comedy. there is some controversy >> that say comedy? it's funny. >> a lot of controversy whether it should be in the comedy or drama series. >> is this where they can say it doesn't fit the bill? >> it happens. during the golden globes a couple years ago "the tourist" with angelina jolie and johnny depp was nominated in the best musical or comedy. everyone said hmm. sometimes it happens. they put it in there, they got it in there and got a nomination. >> it's like "true detective" could have been a mini series or drama. hbo submitted it as a drama. >> do you think they need to refine the categories more or are they okay? >> we're in the golden age of tv. we're taking more than ever trying to fit it into relatively small number of categories. >> is it apples and oranges? i wonder if it's fair to the broadcast. "true detective" 12 or 13 episodes, it's like three foe nominal movies and compare that to 23 episodes of "the good wife" it doesn't feel like it's comparable. >> the broadcasters have said that and they'll keep saying that. they televise the emmys every year and oftentimes get shut out. >> brian, don't you feel the viewers are getting to decide if they really like the netfli netflixitization of the definition of television so be it. >> the netflixitization, we don't know how popular the shows are. >> we know 35 million house holds are paying for it. 14 come nations for netflix last year, 31 this year. that says a lot how they're growing. >> lead actor or actress in a comedy. >> real quick, the guys first. jim parsons nominated for "big bang theory" matt leblanc, done cheadle, ricky gervais, i think he knocked jonathan giliccky and william m. macy for "shameless." ulia louis-dreyfus, and amy poehler, i hope this is her year, edie falco, lena dunham and me his ka mccarthy and also taylor schilling. >> you two the dream team. >> this is a lot of good tv. >> "snl" doesn't show up but hit a new record this year also, 185 nominations for "saturday night live." >> show her your cards. >> coming up for us, serving those who serve their country, how one airline went above and beyond to help out a group of stranded veterans. this is "the good stuff" that's coming up. kelley blue book... it's the trusted resource. and now, kbb.com has a whole new way to help you decide on your next new car by showing you what really matters. use 5-year cost to own to compare the long term cost of maintenance, insurance and gas. read reviews. woman: gas milage is awesome. from actual owners and kelley blue book experts. and get the full picture on what it's like to own the cars you're considering kbb.com he gets a ready for you alert the second his room is ready. when sales rep steve hatfield books at laquinta.com, so he knows exactly when he can prep for his presentation. and when steve is perfectly prepped, ya know what he brings? and that's how you'll increase market share. any questions? can i get an "a", steve? yes! three a's! amazing sales! he brings his a-game! la quinta inns and suites is ready for you, so you'll be ready for business. the ready for you alert, only at laquinta.com! la quinta! all right, "good stuff" time. ed to' edition a company that went above and beyond to honor the men and women who served our nation. meet ray, a korean war vet. he traveled to d.c. with a group of veterans to visit the war memorial courtesy of the st. louis organization honor flight. well when the servicemen were ready to head home, had a little bit of trouble with the flight. the plane they were supposed to take was diverted to a different airport by a storm, leaving those veterans stranded in d.c. >> the bad part of it was we had elderly people there that use medication, and to be on time. >> it's a real concern so what did southwest airlines do? instead of saving money and flying the servicemen out the next day, the airline dispatched another plane and found a new crew to personally come to the airport, pick up those honorable veterans and take them on a direct flight home. >> it was fantastic to see all these people appreciating what the veterans done so many years ago. it was a day of, i'll never forget. i'll neve forget. >> treating them like the heroes that they truly are. way to go southwest. nice job. >> way to go. >> that costs money and they did it. >> they're appreciated so many years later that's the truth. they should know that. >> good way to end the show. lot happening in our show and a lot to go. let's go over to "newsroom" with brianna keilar in for carol costello. >> if you've been here in washington, kate, i'm sure you've seen groups of those veterans comment in to standing ovations at reagan airport. >> go so good. >> it's so great, what a great deed they did. thanks so much. >> see ya. >> "newsroom" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good morning i'm brianna keilar in today for carol costello. thank you for joining me. we begin with the owe bamobama administration and all-out push to get congress to approve a nearly $4 billion funding request to help children detained on the u.s./mexico border. today the rees

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