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CNNW New Day June 4, 2014

Bergdahl seen inside sitting in the back seat. Bergdahl dressed all in white. He appears to be nervous, blinking, shaky. Bergdahl seen talking with one of his alleged captors. At one point, the Army Sergeant even cracks what looks to be a wipes flying overhead, a twinengine plane approaching the meeting point. And then suddenly like a scene out of the movies the special forces blackhawk helicopter. Two taliban immediately escort bergdahl towards the chopper, waving a white flag. Three u. S. Special operations commandos approach, shaking hands with the taliban militants. They pat down bergdahls back and immediately begin escorting him to the helicopter. In bergdahls left hand, the plastic bag. The contents. Wave back to the militants as they run towards the chopper. They pat bergdahl down again, this time in a deliberate and thorough fashion, presumably a swipe for explosives right before loading him in. This facetoface exchange lasting less than ten seconds before they were off. A message later emerging, dont come back to afghanistan. Another portion of the edited video shows the homecoming of the taliban prisoners in a separate location. A caravan of suvs pulls over alongside a busy stretch of road. The five Guantanamo Bay detainees exit, hugging their supporters. This video now detailing what is considered a highly controversial exchange. The Obama Administration facing steep criticism for what some say is a negotiation with terrorists in exchange for a u. S. Soldier who some say is a possible deserter. Now, behind the scenes what is so extraordinary about this video, besides the obvious, getting bergdahl back, who were the men that came to get him on that helicopter . All we are being told is special Operations Forces. But what that actually means is they were either s. E. A. L. Team 6, one of the units who have never publicly acknowledged who is never publicly seen. You never see these men in action and now we are seeing them, we are seeing how they do their business. Kate . Youre absolutely right. That is one of the many striking things about this video. And the big part of the story has become Bowe Bergdahls health. I dont think we are able to gauge one way or the other his condition from this video. But what else strikes you of the video, what strikes you do you think theyre going to be looking at . Well, i think they will be looking at some of perhaps how the taliban arranged themselves. One of the things that really struck me, you look at that pickup truck, that silver pickup truck, i wonder if that was part of the prearrangement to make this transfer happen, that they wanted to see the hood of the car up so that they could be sure there wasnt a car bomb under there. There was a lot of choreography, a lot of procedures, a lot of very specific hand gestures back and forth, signaling. It was noisy, windy on that little landing zone. So they had to arrange it. Both sides were going to reassure each other that they werent walking into a trap. What we do know is that the u. S. Had plenty of backup firepower just over the horizon, not too far away. They also had planes overhead keeping an eye a drone overhead, keeping an eye on all of this. There were a lot of eyeballs on all of this. Everybody watching everybody. Thank you for that window into that extraordinary prisoner swap. Barbara starr, thank you so much. Chris . Lets bring in matthew f farwell, writer for the Rolling Stone magazine and he served in the same area as Sergeant Bergdahl. He put a lot of time and effort into a report that came out in 2012 on bergdahl, ran in Rolling Stone. Very insightful at the time. Maybe even more so now. He joins us. Pleasure to meet you. Thank you for your service. Appreciate it. Now youre one of us. Lets talk about what you learned report thong situation. When you see this video, what strikes you about this . Lets look at what we are able to see here as we move the video forward. Lets see. Start playing here. Here we go. Barbara was just talking about the hood was up on the truck. Could be its in the desert and overheating, a prearranged sign. What strikes you . The intensity thats on bowes face, you dont know what hes thinking, he doesnt know that the helicopter is coming in. Remember, hes been in captivity for five years. A lot of assumptions about his health. One of the things he was saying is this was an urgent situation, his health was in great decline. When you see him there, he doesnt seem to be he seems to be able to move under his own power. Just psychologically, you know, coming back in that sort of situation, can you imagine the feelings that go through your head know that youre going back to the states, youre going to have to see guys in your old unit, youre going to have to reunite with your parents, with girlfriends you left behind. The strain on this kid is incredible. Do you think me can in any way be aware of all the drama that is surrounding the circumstances of how he left and, you know, whats thought of him . I would imagine he had fairly good media access even out in the desert. The idea of how this exchange is done, is this what you would believe it would be . You know, or do you think there are special circumstances being used here . I mean, it seems pretty par for the course. Actually seems really professionally done, like it went off without a hitch. Sometimes these guys can be a little trigger happy. Obviously they didnt. What do you make of the idea of how they shake hands with the enemy . Is that typical protocol . Well, ive never participated in one of these, but as a sign of respect and that, you know, its a good will thing, i think thats fine. Them doing the search of bergdahl, also something you believe is standard procedure . Remember, too, that this takes place in Khost Province where the cia failed to search a man coming on one of their bases and he blew up killing quite a few cia officers. Its not necessarily a sign of faith or bad faith in terms of Bowe Bergdahl. Right. Thats just what you do. Just being professional. We understand that one of the things that they did have in that parlay together was, tell us about the condition of the prisoners or anything we have to know about, is there anything thats going on. What do you make of that . I mean, again, it seems like, you know, good brief between the two, opposing sides coming, asking if theres any relevant information, and then getting on their way. Should anything be made of the fact that he is in traditional tribal dress from that region or what do you think of that . No, if anything hes in pretty formal dress. They kind of dressed him up for the occasion. Obviously they made this video for propaganda value. Hes not changing when he gets there. They are. Yeah. Its interesting at the end of this tape they say never come back to afghanistan but they dont seem hostile at all. They seem like theyre reaching their hands out and trying to be as nice as possible, the taliban buys. Its national for actors in captive to have stockholm syndrome as verified psychological phenomenon. Absolutely. And now what is driving a lot of the controversy here is, of course, the release of the five taliban guys. Sure. When you see this, what do you think the value of this to them and what do you think it does to our relative leverage . You know, i dont i dont actually know. I think the interesting thing about this deal is it could have been done two years ago, you know, this exact same deal. And because of pressures from congress and because the white house wasnt willing to pull the trigger, it wasnt. We left bowe to sit in captivity for another two years. When you say this deal could have been done, you believe an exchange could have been done with much lower level taliban guys. No. It was in our reporting it was these five guys. So it was always these guy onsz the table. Right. This was the best deal we were able to cut in terms of what level guy snsz. The best deal would have been three days after he was captured when they wanted 15 lowlevel taliban Prisoners Released from within afghanistan and an undisclosed sum of money. But the army for whatever reason couldnt pull the trigger on that one. Do you think that was a better deal for the u. S. Than this one. Obviously. Because these are highlevel guys. Right. And the guy would have been in captivity for less than ten days. The central question here in understanding bergdahls disposition. Do you believe he deserted . I believe he walked off the base. I think we made that clear in our reporting. Desertion, obviously implies that he had some premeditation and that he intended to completely leave his unit and abandon his post. What do you think . Im not sure. Looking at the condition of the unit, sean smith of the guardi guardian had a good video when he embedded with him. What i saw from serving is an undisciplined unit that had a lack of effective leadership and really didnt seem to have very much control over their soldiers. And so its difficult for me to try to get inside bowes head. You you know the area. You know what it would take to leave the o. P. There. Right. If he left with nothing as they say he did, does that suggest to you someone who is thinking about being gone for any specific period . Its just somebody who is probably not thinking right at the time because the area he left from is about two miles north of a town which every time we patrolled through there we were, you know, amped up and ready to go. It was taliban central town. Senior taliban commander lived right up the mountain valley. There would be hostilities. Absolutely. Last question. We are relying heavily on the interviews and thoughts of other guys who serve with him during that time. Right. What qualifications would you put on what youre hearing out of them in terms of their certainty he desertered, certainty that information was given by him because they started to get much more precise in the attacks and that six of their own were killed in the search for him. So ive got to break that down just a little bit. First of all, i understand why all of these guys are coming out now and coming out very passionately. The pentagon putting a very restrictive undisclosure commitment on troops, 3500 people could not talk about their entire deployment for, you know, going on five years now. And so because there were a lot of politics. Right. Now the bubble has burst. And everyones emotion is coming out. Ive spoken with with numerous guys from the platoon, the unit, all of the way up the level of the chain of command. As far as placing the deaths of those six soldiers squarely on bowes soldier, look, its a bad area. You bring in that amount of american troops, they flooded the zone to search for him. You bring in that amount of americans to any ni bad hostile area, people are going to die. We had four guys dionne my tour in that area. So i, you know, completely respect that but i think its unfair to put that right on bowes shoulders. Any idea that it could have been more precise . Bowe was a private first class. I was a private fist clarst cla that time. My knowledge at that ability basically consisted of keep anything weapons clean and keeping my truck running. You wouldnt know of anything of value . Exactly. They did in 2012 is worth reading again now if youre following the story. Thanks for being here. Im sure well have you back. Amid all the criticism over the deal to free Sergeant Bergdahl president obama is in warsaw, poland, today again speaking right now certainly the newburgh dall video that was just released will be hanging over the president s every move. Now the pentagon is responding to the videos release. Lets turn to jim acosta who is traveling with the president right now with much more. Jim . Kate, thats right. The president is speaking here in warsaw right now at the 25th anniversary of polands Solidarity Movement trirm during the fall of the soviet union. We expect the president to draw parallels with polands experience during that time with the ukrainians experience there with the russian forces. But getting back to Bowe Bergdahl and this video, this remarkable video released by the taliban, i can tell you that the pentagon is reviewing it. They dont doubt its authenticity. They are noting in the video that handover was peaceful and successful. And that really follows a conversation that i had with Senior Administration official yesterday about this exchange. And she was saying to me that this might be really a test case, the first test case for the u. S. And the taliban that they can really do business with one another when it comes to the mechanics of winding down the war in afghanistan. That this transfer of prisoners happened without a shot fired and that, yes, while the taliban, they killed a lot of americans, they were linked to al qaeda and osama bin laden, at some point the war has to end in the words of this Administration Official and feel like this Prisoner Exchange and the hand over of bergdahl over to u. S. Forces demonstrate that, yes, these two sides can work with one another when it comes to ending this war in afghanistan. The next chance will be in brussels tomorrow. He has a News Conference with the british Prime Minister dave cameron and so perhaps he will be asked about it then. Of course we will watch the president for the rest of the week to see whether or not he had that encounter with russian president Vladimir Putin as both of those leader also be add attending the dday celebration anniversary on friday. Bergdahl is only adding more controversy to this trip. The whole piece of the bergdahl conversation has nothing to do with afghanistan but whats going on in cuba and the expectations of the administration and military about whats going to happen with the men who are being held at gitmo in the not too distant future. Thank you for the reporting. Back here at home, another day of dangerous Severe Weather is in store for millions of people in the midwest. There have been nearly a dozen reports of tornadoes across several states. Nebraska is getting hit with some of the worst of 85mileanhour wind gust going through there. Hail the size of baseball. Take a look. Thats some of the smaller stuff. 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Its what makes a subaru, a subaru. You could be hanging ten. What are you waiting for . Seize the summer with up to 40 off hotels from travelocity. Capitol hill. Not just from republicans but also from democrats. Kevin, have you guys been avoiding a little bit of the future reality of what happens with these guys in gitmo . I interviewed senator mccain yesterday, well, theyre going to transferred to the United States prisons. I did homework last night, it is hard to see that that is a true statement. Coming out people close to the situation, they say we have tried the people we can try. Theres every expectation that when gitmo gets closed these people will be sent back into the country. Is is that being ignored by your side in assessing the relative merits of this deal that at least you have strings had not been informed, the person on the phone was not aware he had not been called. The white house has got to be better prepared than that. They have to be. We give them thermonuclear weapons. Theyve got to have their act together. The statue says theyve got to tell them 30 days in advance. Theyre claiming maybe well know that. Well, well certainly know that when the docs of Sergeant Bergdahl come out. This is not a Republican Democratic problem. This is is a separation of powers problem because Congress Passed a law that said we want to know 30 dayses in advance. The white house did brief them about these talks for years, that they were ongoing. Theyre still unhappy they didnt know the details of this, this specific deal that was going to go through. They said they needed it. Both on the hill and in the white house, as soon as you tell people anything, it winds up on cnn. Even the intel . Does that mean you can violate the law . They should have vetod the law. Not necessarily when you tell feinstein and chambliss. Feinstein is a former client. She would never reveal. Six men died. Theres a little bit of head in the sand here. Kevin, how does it help you i wasnt crazy about the deal, i had real doubts about this deal. How does that help your cause . I dont know if it helps the cause. I mean, i think its, if anything, its a window into Hillary Clinton. I mean, 48 hours before she was sort of touting the Administration Line about this and now she is the ever conventional, ever calculating politician trying to drive a contrast with one of the most unpopular political leaders in the country right now with president barack obama whose Approval Ratings are in the 40s. If shes going to break away from this president of Hillary Clinton presidency is going to be a barack obama third term shes got to start criticizing the white house and finding her own space. If anything, its a window into Hillary Clinton. Quick button, paul, because this is the sort of thing im sure she would have said in private had she still been wit

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