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"new day" start right now. >> mall cops came running past us, screaming shots fired and they were telling everyone, run, run, run. breaking overnight, a gunman opens fire at closing time in a crowded new jersey mall. hundreds trapped inside. early this morning, the police confirm the shooter has taken his own life. we hear from terrified shoppers. also breaking now, a denver school surround by s.w.a.t. teams, reports of two men armed inside now in custody. we are live with the very latest. nfl scandal, the dolphins bullying case growing bigger. the nfl now launching a full investigation as disturbing voicemails and texts emerge. your "new day" starts right now. >> announcer: this is "new day" with chris cuomo, kate bolduan and michaela pereira. >> good morning. welcome to "new day," tuesday, november 5th, 6:00 in the east. we're following two developing situations right now. in new jersey, a mall shooting overnight ending 90 minutes ago. police confirm a gunman is dead hours after entering the mall just before closing time and 0ing fire. workers and shoppers were directly in his path. some were stuck in hiding for hours. and also breaking in denver, those two people we talked about are now, custody after an hour ago after a tense standoff at a school. police say the pair broke in overnight and reports they were armed. we go live to denver for the latest on that. first, the latest on the new jersey mall shooting. cnn's poppy harlow is live at the mall in paramus, new jersey. >> no one amazingly is injured in this horrifying event that broke out over night, the gunman, a 20-year-old is dead at this hour. absolute chaos broke out at the mall behind me within a gunman entered just after 9:00 p.m. over 400 people locked inside stores for hours. but eventually, they got out safely. chaos at a shopping center in new jersey overnight. >> we heard four gunshots. and everybody was scared. everybody was panicked. we took everybody, we went in the back of the store, locked ourselves in with 13 people in total, including me. >> reporter: hundreds of police, s.w.a.t. and emergency teams swarmed the southwestfield garden state plaza mall in search of a gunman who authorities believed fired six rounds just before closing time. the suspected gunman, 20-year-old richard shoop was discovered dead just after 3:00 a.m., his body found lying in a remote area of the mall. authorities say he had a self-inflicted gunshot wound. >> originally from washington township, new jersey, now living in teaneck, new jersey. he's 20 years old. his body was discovered just about an hour ago with a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head area. he himself went to the area where he did this. it was a difficult area of the mall, behind some construction. >> reporter: no one else was injured in the shooting. surveillance individuvideo show gunman aimed at security cameras. >> the visor on the mel mhelmet lifted up. he was a while male. he wasn't aiming at anything. he had the gun in his hand aimlessly and he was walking past the apple store. he wasn't yelling. he didn't seem angered. he was just walking. >> reporter: police say shoop was carrying a rifle modified to look like an ak-47, stolen from his brother. >> it would look like an ak-47 but it is not an ak-47. it's where you take the handgun and modify it to make it look like something it is not. but it is a lawful gun owned by the brother. >> reporter: police say shoop has no history of mental illness but say he abused drugs. >> we do believe that the main motive for what he did tonight was suicide, whether self-inflicted or god forbid suicide by cop which no one ever wants to see. it looked like that was his motive. >> reporter: so the question is at this hour, chris, what could have motivated this 20-year-old to do this? police did tell us that they found a note inside the home where he was living. they didn't indicate, as some reports have said, that it was a suicide note. it was a note that led him to believe he would do something like this. we'll learn more in the coming days on that. i can also tell you, it's very important to note, police say he had the opportunity to kill other people in the mall and he chose not to. that is why they say the main motive here was suicide. i can also tell you, police were tipped off by a family member of the shooter. heard about it on the radio, called police shortly after 10:00 p.m. that led them to him. chris? >> poppy, thank you very much. we're trying to figure out what we can as we move along, some big questions raised by this string of shootings we've seen in the past few months. let's bring in harry hauck, a long-time detective with the new york police department, still a security consultant. there's a narrative we see in these situations. this time we seem to have gotten lucky. this guy went in there, wound up taking out only himself. when you're working on the police side, how early are you able to get at someone where there are messages of distress? you get a phone call, we think this kid, he's saying he's going to do things. how does it work from the police side about what you can do and when. >> if you get a call like that, you're getting a heads up. usually you have an address of somewhere you can do, track that person down and get at them before something happens. it's basically what might have happened here. >> how common is it that people come to the police in advance and say so-and-so have been saying weird things, they struggle with drugs, they're disturbed, they're isolated. how often does that happen. >> not off at at uhl. i never had it happen to me at paul. >> we do the say something, see something with packages, is that an area we neglect with people's b behavior? >> looking at this at first blush, it seems like everybody reacted correctly here. that mall had a plan for a lockdown. the first two minutes of an active shooter incident is the most deadliest. that's when most of the damage will be conducted by your shooter. >> why? >> because it takes two minutes for a police response. two to three minutes for a police response. if there's an alarm, an alarm went out through the mall, you have to have a specific alarm saying this alarm says active shooter, lockdown. apparently what some of the people did in this mall was bring their gates down and stay inside their stores. that was a great move. all right? some people were inside the mall also took cover. that's a great move. there's only three things you can do in an active shooter response, okay, the first one is to escape. the second is to hide. and the third is to fight the shooter. >> that's good that they brought down the gates. they had procedures in place. it does seem his intentional was specific also. you heard the witnesses saying he could have done things, he didn't. when you look at the response time, two to three minutes, is that as good as it gets? would it be better to make the harder targets, have more armed security there, would it help? >> two or three minutes is about as close as you're going to get to it unless you'll have armed unit strategically placed all over your city. that's something very hard to do. whether or not the citizens want that. do you want s.w.a.t. teams every five or six blocks in case there's an attack? this is something, you know, it's becoming more and more prevalent. so as a people in the mall and businesses, they should be prepared, have an emergency action plan in the event something like this happens. so if you know how to react, okay, to a situation like this, then there would be a lot less casualties. we're lucky. this guy decided he didn't want to shoot anybody. was he look for a specific target? i don't know. they record a letter that he allegedly wrote. >> maybe he was looking for someone in particular. >> right. didn't find that person. all right, decided to leave -- thank god he didn't want to shoot the place up and kill innocent people. >> harry, thank you for the perspective. it's true, we are seeing more of them. i hope we're learning lessons about how to keep ourselves safer when they do happen. this breaking situation in colorado, a tense standoff between police and two other people ended just an hour ago. they were believed to have been armed. they broke into a school. anna cabrera is in denver and with us on the phone. a lot of details coming out. what's the latest you know? >> we do know the two suspects they have in custody, arrested just within the last hour are a 15-year-old and 16-year-old boy. two boys who police say broke into the school shortly after 10:00 last night denver time and they were carrying what appeared to be rifles. that was according to employees who called police initially to report that this had happened and then was confirmed on surveillance video. they also had backpacks with them. police making the arrest an hour ago or so. they're currently trying to talk to these boys to get more information about what they were trying to accomplish. they're in the process of going through the school right now to see if they left anything behind and exactly what it was they had in those backpacks and guns as well. the area was put on lockdown, reverse 911 calls went out. at this time it's not believed anybody is in injured. certainly no fatalities that we know of or anything like that. we do know there was another school they tried to break into as well early in the evening. they were unsuccessful. it was an elementary school. about a mile and a half away. there are still a lot of questions that police are trying to gather more information from these two suspects. >> anna, it might be too early to know, any word if this is going to impact the schools? are they going to open? i'm sure they're sweeping the schools at the moment. >> [ inaudible ]. >> i think we're having a problem with cell phone connection at the moment. anna, thank you so much. harry, i want to bring you back in. when you hear this, 10:00 last night, two juveniles, two young teenagers breaking into a school what with they believe is backpacks and rifles, how do the police approach this. >> that worries me if they had rifles and if we're able to substantiate that, it tells me one thing, these guys were looking to break into the school, stay there, wait until the kids come in the morning and create an attack in the school. if one of them had a handgun and had backpacks and the backpacks were empty, i'd say they're doing a burglary. the fact they came in with rifles and if we find ammunitions and explosives in those backpacks, it's a lucky day, twice in one day for us. >> it also shows, clearly, the police took it very seriously, s.w.a.t. were on the scene before they had really knew what the situation was. >> sure. something like this, you get a report two guys with rifles breaking into a school, we're going to go back to the active shooter attack in connecticut and you see the fact that maybe they decided, listen, let's break into the school, stay there until everybody gets there and after -- if there's a lockdown, they're already in the school, then they can do the crimes their looking to do. >> very scary situation. the good news, two good things in one day, these two guys are in custody, arrested, a lot of questions for them. >> right, exactly. >> detective, always great to see you. >> thank you. coming up next hour, we'll speak to an eyewitness to the mall shooting in new jersey. he saw the gunman and had to hide for hours. that's coming up just after 7:00 eastern. michaela? data sweeps by the nsa will continue for the foreseeable future. the obama administration says it is looking to reign in surveillance practices overseas. "the new york times" reports the president and his advisers believe there is no workable alternative to bulk collection of data. we're hearing horrifying details from one of the young women held captive by castro. she tells dr. phil she was tied it up by her hands, feet and neck using an extension cord. knight, along with amanda berry and gina dejesus were freed from castro's home in may. details emerging on how that college student in new york city became wedged in a space between two buildings trapped for a nightmarish 36 hours. he told them he was walking on the roof in the dark saturday and didn't see the gap between the buildings and fell. his incredible rescue came sunday after firefighters cut through a concrete wall to free him. houston texans coach gary kubiak expected to remain in the hospital for another day. doctors believe kubiak suffered a mini stroke when he collapsed on the slide of a texans game sunday night. he had a temporary but reversible loss of function. not clear how long kubiak will be away from the team. the answer to all of your traffic jam prayers could be here. a flying car. the aeromobile 2.5 is a hybrid vehicle that apparently switches from a car to an airplane. the vehicle maxes out at 99 miles per hour on the road. that's kind of zippy and soars through the skies at speeds of 124 miles per hour. it seats two people. it's maker says it's perfectly capable of handling parallel parking. sorry, kate, it's only a prototype. >> the holidays are right around the corner. >> just thinking. >> can it take off in bumper to bumper traffic? that's what i want to know. >> i don't know what runway it needs. >> to be continued. let's good to karen mcginnis, she's in for indra petersons. >> new york city, boston and detroit, it's a good thing it's election day today. we have rainfall that's expected to move in, the latter half of the workweek. though we start the morning out chilly, not quite as chilly as yesterday. noticeably warmer. where temperatures are about 5 to 10 degrees, a little bit warmer than yesterday. but a fairly swift moving but vigorous storm system is going to plow across the midwest, produce quite a bit of snowfall in some areas, could see 6 or 8 inches in some of the northern tier states. we have this big dip in the jet stream as it moves towards the east, it's going to move fairly quickly. those mild temperatures you'll see for today and especially going into wednesday, they'll get replaced by cooler, wetter weather by thursday. new york in central park we saw 46 degrees. that was the temperature that we saw yesterday. we'll make it into the 50s for today, into the 60s coming up for wednesday. but then we could see a quarter inch to maybe half an inch coming up by thursday. back to you guys. >> all right, karen, thank you so much. coming up next on "new day," it is election day. and preraces are drawing a whole lot of attention. new jersey and virginia voting for governor, new york choosing a new mayor we'll dig into the choice for voters and what it means for the country. new allegations of a pro football player. he's been suspended, accused of bullying now we're hearing voicemails left for a teammate. we take you inside that dolphins hazing case.

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