standpoint. >> casey jordan, thank you very much. and that's it for me and our special coverage does continue now with laura coates. she's up next live. breaking news, a terrifying manhunt is now over, but there are so many questions that remain. tonight i'm laura coates live. there's been now a stunning end to the manhunt in maine. the suspect in the mass shooting that killed 18 people have now been found dead in the woods near lisbon, maine, with an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. law enforcement telling cnn's john miller robert card was found in an area from a recycling center at which he'd been recently fired. we have no idea how long he'd been found or what was found on his body. we don't know if he was found in an area law enforcement already searched and just missed it or he recently was found there anew. had he been on the run? did he have any help evading police for so long? we have a lot of questions, but there will be a press conference again tomorrow that may shed additional light. there was a press conference, and we're going to unpack that with you here on the program. but two days after he wenten a deadly shooting ram page at a bowling alley and also a nearby bar and grille killing people ranging in age from just 14 years old to 76 years old. we still do not know why he went on this murderous rampage. it is the deadliest mass shooting in this country this year. and that question of why did he do it is going to haunt the people of lewiston and the country as they mourn those they lost as they begin to put their lives back together and unite as a community. maine's governor janet mills saying this just moments ago at the press conference. >> now is a time to heal. with this search concluded, i know that law enforcement continues to fully investigate all the facts so we can bring what closure we can to the victims and their families. >> i want to go right now to cnn's shimon prokupecz who is at lewiston city hall. shimon, you have been following this story as you do from the very beginning. there was just a press conference, you were there with officials. what did we learn? >> so here's what we know. here's a little bit of a time line. it was around 7:45 this evening when police made the discovery of the suspect's body. they confirm it was a self-inflicted gunshot wound. he was discovered while police were searching this area in lisbon, and they found his body. and i want to note to you, laura, this is an area we were at yesterday. we were out on the streets of lisbon yesterday following the police, doing their search. and around 3:00 yesterday we saw them searching this area. today it appears they went back there, and during that search today they found the body. and that is all we really know. police would not answer any other questions. but i think the most important thing obviously to highlight here is that the fear that has been gripping so many communities across maine is now over, and that is such an important part of this. and i want to talk more about that with the mayor of lewiston here who has been dealing with all of this and certainly for this community just how difficult this has been. can you talk about that? >> yes. i mean it's just an incredibly profound sense of relief. the police department, maine state police, and all the federal agency that worked tirelessly over the past couple of days to find the suspect. >> how did you feel, what was it like to get the news that the suspect here was dead? >> this certainly brings a certain amount of closure. and now the healing process can begin. what happened this past wednesday night was just, you know, an incredible act of senseless violence, and our hearts go out to the victims and their families. but one thing is clear, lewiston is strong, we're resilient and i had no doubt we'd be okay. >> reporter: vigils, getting these people together for a memorial, what's the next steps in that? >> there are a number of vigils that are being planned including one this sunday night at 6:00 p.m. at the franco center. details are still coming together, but it is happening. >> reporter: how important will to be for that community to get people together? >> it will be extremely important to bring people together and begin the grieving process and more together. >> reporter: thank you. i appreciate you and all that you've done here. so, laura, that's the important part here is getting this community to start grieving. they've not been able to because they've been living with such a sense of fear. things have been closed down all around them from lewiston to lisbon where the suspect was found. and i just want to briefly note the impact that this has had on that community in lisbon. and i think that's important. people living there couldn't leave their homes. everything around them is closed. there is one super market in that area where people shop at, and finally today the door is opened, and people were allowed to go in and buy stuff. and the lines in there were just incredible. and i spoke to woman who started crying just because of the fear she has felt. and we take these things for granted, but the folks there were finally able to go in and buy food for themselves. it was an incredible moment, and i think for so many of the people here and the families here and the victims' families how important this moment is. and when i walked into city hall today before they started the press conference to see the officials here hugging, sort of shaking hands and the relief they felt knowing this man was no longer a threat was really incredible to see, laura. >> shimon, the cruelty of all this, the terror that lasted more than just the minutes of the rampage but also extended into communities beyond that, all these different people and entities watching their children who were trying to come to terms, parents trying to explain all this. it is such a domino effect we cannot lose sight of. thank you so much for your reporting. brian todd is at the recycling center on the grounds now near where the suspect's body was found. brian, you've been following. what can you tell us about this location? >> reporter: right, laura, we're very near the scene where robert card's body was found. i'll give you the lay of the land here. police are still sealing off this scene. you see them blocking off this road. they're wearing tactical vests and carrying rifles. sealing off this area where the suspect was found a short time ago. what i can tell you is the recycling center where he worked, where he lost his job not long ago is to the right. and the wooded area is just to the right of that, that darkened area behind the walgreens here. i'm going to shift over, and our photo journalist will kind of shift over here. from what we know the maps and our teams here reporting from where he was searching, that wooded area found is back here and kind of to the right behind the walgreens that way. there's another police vehicle sealing off this area so that we can't get any closer to this. but we did despite them giving very few details in that news conference of the discovery of the body, we do know a couple of details. what the state public commissioner did say his body was found near lisbon falls in a wooded area. we believe it's back that way. the boat launch where he dumped his car the other day after the shootings is also that way. there's a walking trail between that boat launch and this area. back behind the walgreens there's a wooded area next to the recycling center where he worked, the wooded area is right there. we know he was found near the banks of the river according to the public safety commissioner at 7:45 p.m. that there's a walking trail kind of between that area and the boat launch where he dumped his car. again, with very little detail to go on of the discovery of the body, you can put a couple of things together. we heard shimon talking about how his team was here at yesterday at 3:00 p.m. you can surmise from that yesterday around 3:00 p.m. they'd not yet discovered the body. that means roughly 28 hours between that time and the time we know they discovered the body is when he took his own life. so it raises more questions. was he here, did he leave and come back from that period? obviously he must have returned here at some point. how far he did go? how far did he venture between those two periods? we don't know. but, again, you can kind of put a couple details together when he found his body and where they found it. not far from the river in lisbon falls in a wooded area, which means it is right back that way probably a few hundred yards. laura? >> brian todd, what strikes me about this of course is that in that interim period of time if people were frequenting that walgreens or in that area had there not been a lockdown, what could have happened. even having one the danger and proximity as well, there are a lot of questions. i want to bring in charles ramsy who's the former philadelphia police commissioner and former washington, d.c. police chief. also with us is senior correspondent evan perez. can we begin with you, chief ramsey, because we'll recall you've had a great deal of experience pursuing man hunts. for example, the d.c. sniper cases and beyond. there's tremendous relief in the community tonight knowing there has been the locating of this individual and that he is no longer alive. you now have a chance to take a second and assess the police response, what do you see? >> well, first of all, there's going to be a lot of information hopefully that comes out tomorrow. we didn't learn very much tonight. >> yeah, why was that, chief ramsey, by the way? why do you think that was? >> i don't know. i was disappointed. i thought we'd get some information, although i know they wouldn't have a whole lot to begin with, but there are a lot of very serious unanswered questions. how long has he been dead as an example? and if he took his own life, self-inflicted gunshot wound, did someone hear the shot? what drew him to that location? there were a lot of questions really i think could have been answered but they weren't. hopefully tomorrow they will be. in an earlier press conference they gave us some information around response times and things like that. remember this is a very small town. not very many police officers, nothing really happened. so i imagine they didn't have very many cops deployed, but they still arrived at the scene, you know, pretty quickly when the calls came in around shots being fired in both the bowling alley as well as the pool hall. so that part of it we'll learn a little bit more about, but i'm more concerned right now about the search itself. did they search that area previously? where exactly was the body? was it covered? i know it's a very, you know, heavily forested area, but where exactly was the body? and again, if he shot himself someone probably would have heard the shot, i would imagine. and -- because you had a lot of people in that area, police officers and so forth. so that's what i would like to focus on tomorrow, actually. >> evan, we turn to you on that because it wasn't that long ago we were hearing about police descending on his last known address and saying things like come out with your hands up, come out where we can see them. they at some point left that area behind and pursued other areas. we didn't hear a lot of why they're not telling information, but you were one of the first people to even identify and break this story that he had in fact been found and he had in fact been found dead. why do you think there has been a relative level of tight lipidness on this? >> i think to be candid i think police -- this trail had gone pretty cold. i mean that is pretty clear. that's one reason you saw the response to the home of one of the residences associated him. and it appears one reason why there was something detected that there was either movement or that there was a heat signature inside or near the home that made them believe perhaps someone had come back to that residence so they needed to know whether it was him, and so there was a full -- i mean there was a full response there. >> there was. >> and you saw all that live on our air yesterday. it gives you a sense today certainly there was a bit of a reset on where do we go from here, and they did do a thorough search. they had dogs. they had everything at their disposal to do a search in that area. again, this is -- maine is very sparsely populated. that area is very sparsely populated. in the end, he didn't go very far it appears. you're just walking distance from that walgreens. you're walking distance from that recycling center. of course a lot of these places were shutdown over the last couple of days because of the shelter in place order, so there might have been less foot traffic in that area, but one of the things i think, you know, shimon i and i were texting about this in the last couple of days. we didn't see -- it was almost like it was not the type of things you see in a manhunt where you see cops going, you know, door-to-door or checking every garage and stuff. and i don't know whether it's because these are small police departments and they don't have enough resources or not, but, you know, it just seemed like they just didn't know where to go and where to look, so they were looking today. they were looking over by the boat launch where the car was found. one of the things i want to hear tomorrow is what drew them to that area? did someone hear a gunshot? was there some other piece of information they got? we do know from the police that the family had been extremely cooperative. they provided a lot of information, which at least helped them understand his mind-set. and one of the big fears was, you know, could he show up somewhere and carry out additional shootings? that was one of the major fears that we heard from officials today. so in the end 7:45 is when they find this body. the question is what drew them there, how long do they believe he's been there? the medical examiner is going to be able to at least identify how long the body -- how long the person had been deceased by the time he was found. >> a time of death or otherwise could be a part of all this. charles, let me get to you on this because when family members and victims are learning about this i suppose there's emotion one being relief this person is no longer a threat, but also the way we think about justice in this country often entails someone is being apprehended, a criminal trial, a prosecution, and however you define justice after that. when you have a suspect who is now dead, does the investigation just stop, or will there be more investigation now into why he had this weapon, about the flagging with the mental health issues? will there be conversations about what was known about him, or does this trail really truly now run cold at this point? >> the investigation will continue, there's no question about that. there's still a lot of loose ends that need to be tied up. they need to complete the processing of the crime scene. they'll continue to investigate how he got his hands on the weapons, this whole issue around his mental health and being, you know, committed for a couple of weeks and so forth. so that's going to continue. you learn from all these cases, and they'll be profiling to figure out his motive and all these kinds of things because they're starting to see a pattern now with these serial killers, these mass killers. and he'll be a part of that, unfortunately that family of folks is growing. the one thing i to want to tip my hat to the department on is the fact they notified the families before they gave it to the press or anyone else. that was absolutely the right thing to do. they've suffered enough. and they should not get this information from the media. they should get it from the department. so i want to commend them for that. there are a lot of questions we still have, but at least there's a sense of relief now. at least there should be from all the residents of maine, quite frankly. and all of us that watch this because i mean you can find of feel the tension yourself even though you're not there. you have something like this, so it's just one more tragedy. and the second part of the tragedy will be are congress and other elected officials will do absolutely nothing once again as a result of this. so that's just an unfortunate side of the story. >> let me add just real quick, laura, i mean i think the families deserve answers. especially the things you raised, the question of these red flags and the flags that people knew something was wrong with this man and, you know, how this managed -- how this happened. these are 18 people who have been killed needlessly, and how did that happen snch. >> just an important question. i will say at least one member of congress in maine, i think it was congressman goldman if i'm not mistaken spoke about having a change of heart as it relates to his prior votes oas it relates to assault weapons bans and the like. we'll see legislatively what might happen next. there is a new speaker in town. charles ramsey, evan perez, thank you so much. we're going to go back with much more on our breaking newews. the suspspect of thehe masass shooootings in m maine foundnd totonight. in the midst of this stunning news, really the stunning news from the entire week, the suspect in the maine mass shootings has now been found dead. we cannot lose sight of the victim in all this, the 18 people you see on that screen, they were killed in a matter of minutes. and each and every one of them mattered to someone. they were part of a family, and they still are. and among them bill young and his 14-year-old son -- 14 years old, aaron, an honor student. they were bowling together when the suspect entered that building. joining me now rob young, bill's brother and aaron's uncle. rob, thank you so much for being with me this evening. i cannot imagine what this week has been like for your family. i know you were extremely close to your brother and of course your nephew. and this is just unbelievable that it's happened, and now that you know that this suspect has been found dead, what is your reaction? >> well, first of all, i'd like to thank the hardworking men and women who have been searching for robert card for three days now. thank you for finding him. it puts closure for us as a family in isancy where we don't have to worry about him hurting anyone else. and it kind of gives us a sense of justice. he's not here anymore. >> when you think about that word, justice, and i often -- i turn that around in my head a lot thinking about as a former prosecutor what it looks like to people, how you can help a community to heal. oftentimes it's through prosecution, but in a case like this, there won't be that. do you feel as though your family has been denied some kind of justice by not being able to understand or hear from him as to why? >> now, i don't think you'd ever get a why. i don't think there is a why on why'd you'd gun down innocent people, a 14-year-old boy. my family had no beef with robert card. we really don't know him. so no why would ever bring my brother and my nephew back, you know. we didn't want to sit through a trial. we didn't want to see all the gruesome details. and, you know, sometimes things are -- with him being in a mental institution, maybe he gets an insanity plea and never sees a day in jail. we just never know how it's going to work. at least for our family this is kind of the outcome we wanted. >> justice is always in the terms of those who are affected. i did notice you called him robby card. do you know him? >> i actually graduated high school with his brother. robby was a grade below us, and according to one of my friends -- my memory's not that great -- we played baseball together as kids. >> oh, my god. really? >> yes. >> that must be adding a different layer of the horror what you've had to experience and just thinking about having known or known of this person in this community of lewiston. i want people to understand, though, what has been a focus tonight on finding this man. i want to focus on your brother, on your nephew and those who lost their lives. when you heard about this, you actually were near baltimore. you didn't even know what happened to your brother, and you traveled hours tuesday maine just to get information at the reunification center. can you tell us about that and what happened? >> yeah. we -- i flew up to maine. my sister drove up from massachusetts on wednesday night or early thursday morning and was at the reunification center and really couldn't get any answers or anything. she was there for about four or five hours, can she ended up leaving. i boarded the first flight i could get out of baltimore into portland -- portland, maine. and i got here around into the winthrop area about 10:30, and we still hadn't heard anything. >> how long until you knew? >> we found out -- the first thing we found out was about 1:00, 1:30 yesterday afternoon when state troopers came to the house. >> and that's when you learned that your brother who i know you're very close to and your son who were quite inseparable and they lost their lives. i can't imagine what this has done to your family. he's survived by his wife and of course aaron's mother as well. how is your family even coping with this? >> we're still in shock. there's no -- there's nothing you can do to prepare yourself for this. cindy, bill's wife and aaron's mom, she's lost everything. her son was her entire world, and my brother was her best friend and soulmate. and they were both taken away. they said good-bye, he went to the bowling alley, and she never gets to see them again. >> rob young, i'm so sorry to think what this has done. and i'm so grateful through you we've heard a bit more about these precious lives that were lost, and i'm just so heartbroken for you, and we'll continue to think about you. and i really truly appreciate you helping people to understand this moment. thank you. >> thank you very much. i appreciate it. >> we have a lot more on our breaking news. this manhunt is over. the suspect in the maine mass shshootings fofound dead t toni. the power goes out and we still have wifi to do our homework. and that's a good thing? 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>> reporter: well, for starters that in some ways this still isn't over because for many of these people they still have relatives in the hospital. they still have friends trying to recover in the hospital. they're still hoping to get good news some of those conditions will improve. of course, it is welcome news that they can breathe a little bit of a sigh of relief that, one, the shelter in place orders are lifted. they may not have to look over their shoulders as much as they have over the last 48 hours not knowing where this dangerous suspect could be, a suspect that police had said was armed and dangerous. and so, of course, that is a good thing. but as we move forward here while it's at least 18 that were killed here, there are countless other lives that touched those 18 that are changed forever. those that survived recounted harrowing, awful tales of hiding while bullets flew near them or over them. and even for family members trying to process how to move forward, one woman, tammy asselin, her cousin tricia asselin, her cousin was killed. >> i never thought that would be possible, no one obviously in a situation like this ever thinks it's possible, but when it happens it's still -- i'm still processing it myself and still trying to get to a point that i can try to learn to accept that, yes, it is real. yes, it did happen. and it's going to take me some time because i go in and out of the emotions and thinking, no, it didn't really happy, it didn't really happen. then i'm constantly reminded it did. yeah, it's difficult. >> reporter: am i essentially becoming a stustatistic? it's something that i'm sure she never thought she would be saying. it's something that so many people, too many people across this country have said at one point or another in the aftermath of shootings like these. i was talking to one resident earlier today and he stressed to me -- he wanted to make sure i understood as we talked about the folks that were killed and also injured and recovering, these aren't just numbers. these are people with separate desires, wants, needs, everything in between. and that feeling is what people here in the community are going to be wrestling with much beyond the 48 hours it took to find the suspect. >> omar, i'm so glad you played that particular clip because i tell you when i watch that interview with kaitlan, i kept focusing on the little girl next to her mother. and she's 10 years old, and i'm reminded every day about that quote that i have children a 9 and a 10-year-old and don't ever forget that someone is looking at you, learning how to be a human being. just thinking about what that looks like for a mother who is struggling with that, trying to come to terms and process a little girl and entire community are trying to make sense of all of this all the time and all at once. omar jimenez, thank you so much. the suspect in the maine mass shooting has been found dead tonight. i'll talk with a lewiston, maine, citity counselolor right after thisis. we are following the breaking news out of maine. a 48-hour manhunt is over. the suspect in the mass shooting that killed 18 people -- 18 people and injuring many others has been found dead in the woods near lisbon, maine. joining me now lewiston city counselor robert mccarthy. councilman, thank you so much for joining us this evening. i mean it must be a sigh of relief that, one, the lockdown is over, that the manhunt is over. but yet the lives that have been impacted and lost here is still so raw. what's your reaction this evening? >> well, first off i want to -- from all the citizens from boston, our thoughts and prayers go out to all of those that were touched by this from them victims to the relatives and the family members and friends who have suffered from this catastrophic event. our hearts are with them. and in the following days and weeks, we need to give them all the support that we can. >> when you think about that support, and normally -- and even using the word normally just now, you know, makes my stomach drop. but we have seen so many tragedies, mass shootings, killings where communities have come together even through vigils, even through being able to see one another, to touch, to know that they are part of a community with the lockdown, with the ongoing manhunt that wasn't able to happen immediately, but there is still now a really big opportunity and a calling for healing to begin. how -- how will that begin in your community? >> well, i think this evening everyone will breathe a sigh of relief and decompress, and in the morning we will start the healing process. the city is organizing fund-raising through a local bank so that there's -- unfortunately there's scammers out there that would take advantage of these situations. so we're setting up fund-raising for the families of those that have been touched by this. we're organizing an all denominational vigil hopefully for sunday night. i know that it was said informally the word was put out to put candles in your window tonight in remembrance, and this was organized before we knew that robert card had been found and he was dead. so there's -- it runs the gamut of everything. it's -- it's tough sometimes for people to reach out because they don't want to intrude on the families that are grieving. so it's a balancing act. but the city through all of this, many businesses that were closed to the lockdown opened just to prepare food to feed the hundreds and hundreds of law enforcement personnel that were here. pulled a tractor-trailer full of water at the command post, and i can see this -- boston is a tight-knit community. we are the second largest city in maine, but we are a close-knit city, and everyone loves to help everybody. >> we do in realtimes what we do in tragedy. lewiston city councilor what you described asked the thoughtfulness, thank you for sharing all of that with us today. >> i just want people to know this isn't the norm for maine. maine on monday was named the safest state in the country, and that this is just -- you just can't imagine this happening here, that we average 22 murders a year and we had 18 in one -- less than half an hour, so it's just surreal to everybody. >> those figures are stunning, and i can't imagine what your community has been through. but you will get through based on what you have said today. thank you so much. >> thank you very much. have a good evening. >> now, as the residents of lewiston, maine, breathe a sigh of relief that the manhunt is over, how do they begin this process of healing? that conversation n with our v own n shimon prokupeczcz is nex. pr >> our breaking news tonight, the suspect in the mass shooting in maine is dead. found with an apparent self-inflirkted gunshot wound. let's not forget there was 18 innocent people that died at a shooting rampage at a bowling alley in lewiston. there are others that are dead as well. it is the deadliest mass shooting this this country this year and yet another community greerving. i want to bring back shimon prokupecz, the latest mass shooting he has reported on. i want to take a moment back. the pulse night club shooting, what happened in uvalde as well, affecting families all around the country who are part of a larger community. what do you feel in these communities when the cameras start to leave? >> well, that's the big thing. that's when the real stories can be told. because that's when the real grieving starts. when these families are all alone, no one's knocking on their door to ask them how they're doing, how they're feeling, what's going on in their lives when the reporters leave when the politicians are not paying attention to them anymore. that's when the grieving begins because they're just alone with their thoughts. and missing their loved ones. and, you know, i covered uvalde as you know, as our viewers know and you certainly saw that there and also uvalde there was just this desperation for answers, families looking for answers. that's going to happen here. they're going to want to know answers. they're going to want to know, why did this happen? how was this man allowed to have this weapon, when they knew he was having all these issues. when we leave and when the politicians don't pay attention nymph that's when the families feel the pain and the loneliness of missing their loved ones. >> it is, it cannot be stated enough, that this will be a process and you have been there, you have shared some of the most intimate moments with these families who begin as strangers and within minutes, they realize that this is an unbreakable bond of just the experience themselves, shimon, the answers that were thought, there will be a press conference tomorrow, a chance to find out how this happened and more importantly perhaps how not to have it happen again. do those investigations continue? >> yeah, i -- look, there's a lot more to learn here and hopefully we'll get those answers tomorrow. and you speak about the community. the mass shooting community, right, the victims, parents, siblings, parents, husbands, wives now have bonds with so many communities all across the country. thousands of people and no doubt they will all be speaking to each other, talking to each other to try to get through this very, very very painful, and difficult time. >> shimon prokupecz, thank you all for shining a light on this information. thank you all for watching. our live coverage continues right after this. .
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