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security secrets. the leaks are the source of how president obama and his aids pick targets for drones. the other detailed iran's nuclear program. the fbi confirmed it is investigating that leak. senator john mccain says the fbi is fine but he wants an outside special counsel to lead the investigation. he said he suspects the obama administration is leaking this information to make the president look good. >> the portrayal of the president in these stories is of why usually nothing short of heroic. i agree with the cyberwarfare but why should we reveal it to the enemy and take credit for something that obviously does not deserve to be well-known? >> president obama's spokesman called allegations of intentional leaking grossly irresponsible. in a very rare show of bipartisan anger, this afternoon, the democratic and republican leaders of the house and senate intelligence committee say these leaks threaten to do iminent and ir represent parable damage to the committee. just moments ago, wolf blitzer asked dianne feinstein if she knows of any incidents where there were leaks. >> yes, i can tell you where lives have been in danger. >> has anyone been killed as a result? >> not to my knowledge. >> do you want to go into specifics? >> no, i do not. >> brianna keilar joins us now. how does the white house answer what a pretty serious allegation for both democrats and republicans? >> i spoke with one senior administration official, john, who insisted that these leaks drive us crazy. that's what i was told. when you look at a lot of these stories, certainly there are many details that raise questions. if some of them are not coming from the white house, they coming from the administration when you talking about some of the classified details. that seems obvious even if they are not coming from the white house. this is a white house that has made a big deal about clamping down on leaks. at this point in time, when you ask, how will you cooperate with these hearings that we know are going to happen certainly on the senate side of the hill, this fbi investigation, there is no comment on that or at this point reaction to these calls from senator mccain and senator chambliss calling for special counsel. >> a bit more on the substance. when they hear people like who have access to this information on capitol hill, they are worried and dianne feinstein says she knows of examples where lives are at risk, do they agree with that? >> certainly, that is a concern. that's why the senior officials said this bothers us very much as well. when you look at the politics of this, the president has a pretty good record on certain things that are sort of indisputable, osama bin laden taking out some of al qaeda's leadership. these are things that serve him well in an election. difficult for mitt romney to compete with. that's an experience president obama has. republicans want to do anything they can to tarnish that. at the same time, when you hear democrats joining republicans with these grave concerns, we heard from dianne feinstein. she said it seems at the very least that information is not being sufficiently held close. that, politics aside, is a very serious charge. >> they dismiss when you hear senator mccain saying he thinks they are puffing their chest an saying, look at what we have done with bra vary doe, the politics, we have enough examples, with he don't need to do this? >> exactly. they say if a reporter is doing a story on counter terrorism, it is their job to weigh in. they are dismissing the politics of this. there are some examples certainly where when it comes to osama bin laden, there is a movie being made. >> brianna keilar, thanks so much for your help tonight. turning to campaign 2012 and the big debate over what wisconsin's recall election teaches us about the climate and the map of the november presidential election. republican governor, scott walker had a resounding victory defeating the efforts by democrats and organized labor to cut short his terms. represent candidate, mitt romney sees a big national win. >> the vote we saw last night in wisconsin said that people in what many have considered a blue state, said we have seen a conservative governor. he cut back on the scale of government and has held out taxes and stood up to the public sector unions and we want more of that, not less of it. >> now, on our cnn electoral map, we have wisconsin leaning blue, meaning leaning obama. we had a healthy debate about whether to make it a toss-up. for now, it stays as is. as republican walker won big, they gave obama a healthy edge. the exit poll number matched a public poll taken in recent days. wisconsin hasn't voted gop for president since 1924. that's 28 years ago. we will keep an eye on it. while there is an opening for governor romney. i am not ready to say it is a toss shall did up. dana bash was on the grown for the recall and is in milwaukee tonight. as we have this debate, what does yesterday mean for november, what's the best republican argument for why they say, this does mean mitt romney can win wisconsin? >> well, several things. they argue basic infrastructure. the fact of the matter is, they did open 25 sites around this state. they opened six months earlier than they normally would have. so that helps them. also, they have identified, they say, 4 million republican voters. that's an important number in any case. in wisconsin, people don't identify themselves when they register by party. also, they say, aside from the infrastructure, pure message. i spoke with reince preef p previs, argued that government should not spend more than it has. that is something that barack obama is going to have to answer for. there is also a sub plot. p previs was not just rnc chair but he was here in wisconsin. he will likely have some say in the money that comes nationally here to wisconsin. >> democrats are back on their heels. what is their best argument that what happened last night has no meaning or little meaning come november? >> it is a tough one, john. the dnc chair, debbie wasserman schultz said it is a test run for november. the republicans were quick to say it is sort of like a north korea missile launch and that it didn't go very well. they argue, at least they try. this did energize their base. they made what i think is a valid point. they say that recalls are simply different from regular elections. it really is a high bar to reach to say that we want a governor out, particularly when there is no corruption involved. at least at this point. that's the case here. they also make the point that the passion that is there for scott walker is not necessarily there for mitt romney. we see that in the exit polls that you just showed a little while ago. the fact is that barack obama is seven points ahead still among wisconsin voters. so it shows that the passion isn't necessarily there. having said all that, there are some candid democrats here on the grown. the man who lost his bid to become the democratic lieutenant governor last night, he told us he is not going to down play it now that they have lost. he said there is a national problem that has national implications an they have an uphill battle. >> 154 days. >> dana bash on the ground. the role of big money and outside money, a huge flash point in the debate. the numbers are staggering. more than $66 million spent heading into the final days. we are sure and you can be sure the final number will surpass $70 million and approach $80 million. of the $66 million in spending already reported, half of the money came from outside of wisconsin. republican groups had a bit of an edge in that regard. about 54% of the outside money went to help governor walker fight the recall effort. what is more staggering is when you look at the candidate versus candidate spending. walker spent more than $30 million to $4 million for barrett. more than 60% of governor walkers' contributions came from outside of the state. a lot was spent on voter turnout and ground operations. that's a lesson likely to shape as we move on to the presidential race. of the $66 million spending tracked so far, less than a third, about $20 million spent on tv ads. nearly two-thirds of that supported republican walker. about half of the tv ad war spent in the final five weeks. you see it lopsided in favor of governor walker. here is a big question, whether that laid spending made any difference or much difference. 86% of the voters who participated say they decided before may, $12 million in late tv ad spending was spent for the hearts and minds of about 13% of the recall voters. our chief political analyst, gloria borger is here. >> a lot of money. how do we spend in future elections? what lessons are to be learned? on the other hand, you say, $11 million spent for 12% or 13% of the population, that's a waste of money. on the other hand, in a very polarized electorate, where there are only a small slice undecided, very much like will be in the presidential race, that's the way it is. >> i don't think anybody that looks at this race is going to say, the lesson here is don't spend any money. i think the lesson here for republicans is that they were finally at parody with the democrats. look back to 2008. a huge disadvantage for john mccain's campaign. they didn't raise the money the democrats were raising. they are not going to make that mistake this time. they had a coordinated efrfort. not only did you have the superpacs in but the republican governors. you had the nra in and lots of special interests and they coordinated. they contacted 4 million voters. only 2.5 million people voted in this election. that gives you some idea. so as far as money is concerned, the lesson here is that more is better. you are never going to convince anybody, even though people say they didn't pay the attention to the ads and their minds were made up. >> what's the policy lesson. governor walker says, i made tough choices and even voters who didn't like those choices applauded me for making them. >> i think there is a lesson in that. i think what they liked about walker is that he had a plan. this is a cautionary note for mitt romney and president obama. they liked a candidate who had a plan. his plan is to reduce the size of government. that also still has a lot of rest son nance. governor walker said, you need to come up with a fiscal plan to save the economy. if you are president obama, maybe you need to start telling people just what you would do in your second term. independent voters like president obama but they don't feel like they have heard enough from him about what he is going to do. >> every family has had to make tough choices. if the politicians don't show that, maybe they won't listen to them. >> and maybe smaller government is better. former president, bill clinton, made a lot of friends. a prominent democrat agrees our leaders need to focus on low taxes and job creation now, before the election. later, former cabinet secretary, the romney campaign's new point man, reaching out to latino voters. 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why does the election get in the way? >> the senators that are sponsoring start-up 2.0 are all new guys. we didn't get the memo we are supposed to take presidential election years off. the bill we have got isn't going to solve all the problems. it looks at where job creation is taking place in the last 20 years. 80% of all the new jobs have come from start-up companies, not just technology companies, restaurant chains, under arm pore, the sportingwa wear companies. we passed a bill to try to get them greater access to capital. it also says, let's make sure we can compete for world class t l talent. when they train graduate students in engineering and science, we train people from abroad. what we are saying is, rather than sending them home, if there are jobs open here that americans can't fill, let them have those jobs here in america and staple that green card to the visa to that graduate degree. if you want to start a business, let's do that as well. if you can show that you can raise money and hire companies here or hire americans here. again, not going to completely move the needle. if you look at where job creation is taking place, this is some place to start. we don't have to wait until after the election. >> you say the new guys want to do this. i am going to say the old guys are getting in the way. whether you talk to your leader, democratic leader, harry reid or when the republicans talk, they would have to go through the house speaker. what you have had, the republicans and house have passed a whole bunch of bills. they would say, they create jobs. the democrats have passed a whole bunch of bills in the senate. they say it is the republicans. the republicans say it is the democrats. why does the election prevent some action. >> it does make you scratch your head. we came together 1 1/2 months ago on the jobs act, the ability for these start-ups companies to raise money in an easier fashion. the president supported it, we passed it in the senate. >> let's focus on harry reid. you are a democrat. when you say come on, give me a chance, why does he say stop? >> he will give us a chance. we need to show some more support. we started with four cosponsors. we have a companion bill in the house. i will get some more additional co-sponsors. we have tech companies and business groups saying this. i think we will get a chance to get it on the floor. we also need, john, to do some of the other things that should be basic blocking and tackling. the senate passed, again, bipartisan, 75 votes, a two-year transportation bill three months ago. this should be a no-brainer. we are seeing the summer season where highway contracts need to be let, particularly in northern states where those jobs can't be done during the winter. we are going to miss the whole construction season if we don't go ahead an give the predict ability on a two-year transportation bill. the house needs to step up. the last one i am going to try to make on this is, we also need this time i get some pushback from both sides. we need the biggest thing of all is to put in place a real deficit reduction plan that will generate additional revenues and do entitlement reforms and try to give confidence to that $2.5 trillion in private sector capital sitting on the sidelines looking for some place to invest. they can't invest in europe, a mess. china, india declining. brazil had a bad quarter. america, if we did a debt deal, america would take off. we have to find the common ground to do that. >> i don't think you have a prayer of getting that big one done before the election, senator. i will stay in touch. i would like to see some progress for the unemployed americans. >> i don't think so, my friend. >> you have got to keep at it, john. we will have more ahead on bill clinton's continuing impact on presidential politics. his mixed message might be a mixed blessing. the enterprise goes where no space shuttle has gone before, upper river on a barge to an aircraft carrier. 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