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CNNW John King USA April 9, 2012



admits to shooting and killing trayvon martin will be arrested and charged. special prosecutor angela corey has chosen not to use a grand jury to investigate the florida teenager's death. it is up to her to figure out whether to file charges against george zimmerman or drop the case altogether. ♪ >> as you can see there, peaceful protests and unrelenting protests marching to the sanford police department demanding an immediate arrest. david mattingly is live in sanford tonight. a lot of people say this was an unexpected move but not the family attorney. let's listen. >> anticipating that there will be no grand jury because the family has always been hopeful that they would there would simply be an arrest. we believe from day one that they had enough evidence to arrest the killer of trayvon martin. >> help us understand, david, why do they think this is good news? >> well, by going to a grand jury, it could have given off signals the prosecutor in this case wasn't 100% certain that she had what it takes to get george zimmerman arrested and then tried for that offense. what this is saying now, though, is by taking this off the table, angela corey is cautioning everyone not to read anything into this about which way her office might be leaning as they continue with their investigation. so at this point no one can really say for sure what angela corey will do. one thing is certain. she is sitting squarely in the hot seat and is taking on that role of the decision maker in this case. she will decide the future of george zimmerman. >> she will be the focus in the days ahead. what about the zimmerman's family lawyer? what do they say? >> well, he did release a brief comment today to cnn. hal uhrig did say he is not surprised. he doesn't know what her decision will be ultimately about how this case is pursued, but he did say it was a courageous move on her part getting back to the idea that she is taking full responsibility for this and not going to a grand jury to make that big decision about whether or not george zimmerman should be arrested. >> and, david, finally, she said she would tray it this way, make the decision. did she give any hint of a timetable? >> no hint of a timetable, and by taking the grand jury off of the table here, there is no schedule now. we knew that a grand jury would have to be called. we knew it would have to be seated. now the grand jury isn't involved she is not only in control of the decision in this case, she is also in control of the timetable. she is going to make this decision when she is ready to. >> david mattingly live on the scene in sanford. bring in senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin and sunny hostin in new york. we just heard from lawyer from both sides. sunny, i want to go to you first. if you're george zimmerman, the man facing the potential charges, is this a good or bad development? >> i don't think you can read into it either way. that's the bottom line. especially because angela corey said from the very beginning when she got involved in this case on march 22nd that in her experience when it comes to the justifiable use of force, which sort of has been banded around in this case from the very beginning, she had never convened a grand jury. the grand jury date of april 10th was the grand jury date set by the predecessor, the former state attorney handling this case, so i think if you are trayvon martin's family or george zimmerman and george zimmerman's family, you really can't read that much into this decision. ats a decision from the very beginning she sort of gave us all notice of. >> and, jeff, stay focused on the law that sunny is talking about, the florida stand-your-ground law that says you can use deadly force if a person is attacked anywhere and has the right to believe, the right he believes is necessary to prevent death or serious injury. if you take that to a grand jury and you're the prosecutor and you think the person acted wrongly f you thought mr. zimmerman should face charges, you're taking a risk when you bring it to essentially a jury, right? >> you are taking a risk and you are also possibly passing the buck. sometimes prosecutors use grand juries as a way of saying, well, i thought the case was worth presenting, but the grand jury decided not to bring it. it is sometimes the way prosecutors use grand juries. here i think the prosecutor does deserve credit for being courageous and saying this is my decision and that's true in the last majority of cases in florida. most cases in florida are not presented to grand juries. they're decided on by the prosecutors, and i think that's probably the appropriate case here. there is no reason to bring in a grand jury. there are not a lot of witnesses here whose testimony is in dispute. the cops can interview people, and present their information to the prosecutor. >> and she was with us a little more than a week ago on this program and i asked her about the highly plit sized nature of this case and so many public figures getting involved and demanding an immediate arrest and this was her take. >> the political outcry makes the job harder because any time there is a misunderstanding of the process based on what we are required to do under florida law, it does make our job more difficult. we think what they will see in the long run is that this is a complicated law. it is an affirm tif defense, justifiable use of deadly force, but we will leave no stone unturned in our quest to seek justice for trayvon and his parents. >> sunny, when you hear that, leave no stone unturned she also said she hoped to have at least a preliminary report within two weeks which means sometimes in the next several days. anything surprise you there? >> well, it does surprise me she used the term seeking justice for trayvon martin and his family. that does surprise me. i think most prosecutors try to stay away from ultimate words like that, seeking justice because that's what the prosecutor's job is of course, seeking the truth and seeking justice. i think something that is also very interesting, john, in this case is had it gone to a grand jury, in florida, a grand jury consists of no less than 15 grand jurors and no more than 21. in order to get an indictment you have to have the vote of at least 12. with a complicated law like this, with the justifiable use of force defense, that's a very difficult concept for lay people, and it is possible that you present a case like that and in front of, you know, 21 people, and you may not get an indictment. i think it was smart strategically actually for angela corey to decide to shoulder this burden on her own. >> jeff, put yourself in the special prosecutor's shoes for a moment. what is she looking for now? do you believe they has the information she needs or is the public scrutiny in this case in a way helping her? >> i think that is really the key question here. what is the evidence? we have talked about this case a great deal. obviously it is a horrendous tragedy when a 17-year-old boy goes to buy skittles and winds up getting killed, but the key moment in this case between when zimmerman calls 911 and when the shots are fired, what happened then? we don't know. presumably she has gone and found witnesses. she has gone and found any sort of evidence relating to those key moments and that's what matters most, not what we think, not what the protesters think, the evidence, that's what she's going to get and i hope it leads her in a clear direction one way or the other. >> we will find out. some people say not soon enough. thanks for your help tonight. now turning to a maj overseas development. at least 143 people died across syria today despite the government's promise to implement a peace pln and its promise to start pulling fighters out of population centers by tomorrow. instead, the killings reported again today in a half a dozen cities. violence also spread across the borders are turkey and lebanon. 19 wounded when gun fire hit refugees trying to make their way to a camp across the turkish border. in just a moment susan rice tells us whether there is any hope at all for a diplomatic solution to the crisis. >> should the syrian government yet again refuse to implement its commitments, make promises and then break them and continue and escalate the killing, then i think it will be clear to all that there isn't yet a prospect for diplomatic solution. >> ambassador rice has tough warnings for north korea and isn't alone. the worldwide pressure to stop the launch of a rocket capable of carrying weapons into space. fore! no matter what small business you are in, managing expenses seems to... get in the way. not anymore. ink, the small business card from chase introduces jot an on-the-go expense app made exclusively for ink customers. custom categorize your expenses anywhere. save time and get back to what you love. the latest innovation. only for ink customers. learn more at chase.com/ink a living breathing intelligence bringing people together to bring new ideas to life. look. it's so simple. 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[ speaking foreign language ] >> don't want to answer that? >> a country obsessed with self-defense and presenting a strong face to the world, this they argue is money well spent. anyway, as we are constantly reminded, this is a satellite launch, not a missile test. >> despite north korea's assurances, the skepticism is going to remain, particularly from the united states, always weary about the intentions of an unpredictable country. stan grant, cnn, north korea. >> the senior advisor for the strategic international studies is the author of the "impossible state", and you see the footage and the rocket and you hear the south korea ans saying a possible nuclear test. what are they doing? >> i think as the piece said clearly, they're doing a satellite launch this time. the concern of the united states and others in the international community have is they can launch a missile, a ballistic missile using the same technology so that's what we're testing as they put this satellite into orbit. >> if they follow it up with a missile test, and what does that say about the untested leader? >> he is trying to do two things. he is trying to establish himself in the country as a bony afined nuclear weapons state and and the other is he is trying to consolidate his power. it is a young and untested leader and he has a lot to prove to people older than him, generals and others, and the af north korean. >> sometimes in the past and you know this from working inside the government, some people say north korea does these provocations like a screaming child, to get attention. is that what this is about, to get back into negotiations or is this more about domestic politics, do you think? >> i am concerned that it is more than just that this time. it is in part because the provocations are coming so closely together. the obama administration may see two ballistic missile tests, attacks on south korea and two nuk already tests and it is a come pabl r pact timeframe so i think they are moving in a different direction and want to assure everybody they have the ultimate security guarantee and now a nuclear weapons state. >> if you sit in the national security council meetings and the president wants a recommendation, what is it. >> it is the land of louzy options. you have to go to unsecurity council and get them to stop this launch which won'ting successful and you have to work on china to get the chinese to pinch them harder to get them to stop doing these. >> i read the recent essay. you say it should be obvious why wouldn't china want to be tougher. the problem is they don't want to pinch them too hard so the regime collapses and then you get a military ally of the united states directly on china's border. it is something they don't want to see. >> fascinating. thank you so much for your help. a warning to russia and china from the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. susan rice says they have blood on their hands and the navy takes quick action to compensate people that lost their homes there in friday's jet crash. welcome back. here is lisa sylvester with the latest news you need to know right now. >> hi, john. good to be here. an oklahoma judge today set bail at $9 million each for the suspects in a string of shootings in tulsa. jake england and alvin watts are accused of shooting five people in a predominantly african-american neighborhood last friday. three of the victims died. prosecutors are considering hate crime charges. post to england's facebook page just before the shooting used racial slurs in describing his father's killing by an african-american man two years ago. the navy is wasting no time in compensating victims of friday's fighter jet crash into a residential area in virginia beach. payments will begin at around $2,300 per person and that amount will increase based on the number of family members. in a statement the navy wrote we owe it to everyone affected by friday's accident to help them get their lives back together. amazingly, no one died in the crash. facebook is going to buy the widely popular photo sharing service instant gram for $1 billion. it let's smartphone photographers customize pictures and share them with friends. this is facebook's biggest buy yet. insta gram has 30 million users. mark zuckerberg broke the news on his facebook page saying it will offer users the best photo sharing experience. another mega millions winner claimed their prize. we still don't know who it is but maryland lottery officials say they will share the story in a public news conference this morning. no word if it is the mcdonald's workers that made waves saying she bought one of the three winning tickets. each one of those tickets is worth over $100 million after taxing. a mystery will be solved. >> are you going to be at work tomorrow? >> i will. >> so it is not you. >> definitely not me, sorry. i guess it is not you either. >> i will be right here. congratulations to the lucky winner. >> somebody is lucky. >> maybe they will buy us a beer. still ahead president obama's upcoming push to raise taxes on minimum millionaires and the political twist on the latest release of videos showing government workers making fun of wasting your money. everything that i've gained in life has been because of the teachers and the education that i had. they're just part of who i am. she convinced me that there was no limit to what we could learn. i don't think i'd be here today had i not had a wonderful science teacher. a teacher can make a huge difference in a child's life. he would never give up on any of us. thank you dr. newfield. you had a big impact on me. if you want a luxury car with a standard power moonroof, your options are going to be limited. ♪ if you want standard leather-trimmed seats, you're going to have even fewer. ♪ and if you want standard keyless access, then your choice is obvious. the lexus es. it's complete luxury in a class full of compromises. see your lexus dealer. in the half hour ahead strong words from the u.s. ambassador to the united nations. she tells russia and china they have blood on their hands. the truth about where president obama is making wealth an issue in the re-election campaign and outrageous videos of government workers making fun of their job. this time pay attention to who leaked them and why. tomorrow is the deadline for syrian forces to begin pulling out of cities across the country, but over the weekend syrian officials began imposing new conditions including insisting they get a written commitment from opposition groups to lay down their weapons and no let up at all in the violence. check in with the u.n. ambassador susan rice. if the syrians fail to keep their word, what happens then? >> john, we have been watching this situation with great concern as it obviously has been a window in which the sir can government is escalated the violence rather than diminishing it as they're required to do in order to adhere to commitments tomorrow. from the u.s. point of view we'll view these developments as a blatant breach yet again of the syrian government's commitments, and we think that requires a significant response from the international community. the question as always will be whether russia and china which have been reluctant to hold syria and the government accountable will be ready to do so now. >> and that is the big question, but let me ask you, answer the critics who say the united nations and kofi annan have been played and the death toll has gone up by more than 1,000 and that asad used this did i diplomacy as cover to kill more people. >> i don't think it is a question of the united nations or ann an being played. i think both in the security counsel and the annan himself have been clear i'd about the syrian government, its motives and behavior to date. the question is whether there is still the opportunity, however slim, for there to be a diplomatic resolution to this over year-long conflict. the u.n. estimates over 9,000 have died ore the year and indeed a result of brutal government intent on using all kinds of violence to inflict its will. the worst case scenario which still may not most likely scenario is this evolves into full scale civil war. the reason why the international community has given annan and his plan backing it it remaining the really practically speaking the last viable chance for there to be a negotiated settlement. should the syrian government yet again refuse to implement its commitments, make promises and t

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