continue to cooperate with that investigation as it moves forward. it comes a short time after the university president announced another member of the football team's coaching staff is out. assistant coach mike mckwaery put on administrative leave. he reported seeing the defensive coordinator at the team coach jerry sandusky but mckwaery reported it not to the police but to head coach joe paterno. there's outrage over what prosecutors believe was a cover-up at the school. former top two university officials face criminal charges. tonight, penn state's interim president says there may be more revelations and more victims. >> it's certainly appears from what we know, we do not everything that has happened, obviously, we have seen the presentment to the grand jury, clearly this is an ongoing investigation. it appears that some individuals were afraid to make known what they have seen. >> all this the same day the mother of an alleged victim came forward to tell her story. with her voice disguised, she told good morning america, when. >> i asked who who he was looking up. he wanted to see if jerry was on there. and i said, why would you look him up? and he said, i don't know. he's a weirdo. and i proceeded to ask him, if there was something that he needed to tell me. at that point, he didn't indicate anything. i called the school and expressed my concerns. i told them to my son to the guidance office and talk to him. they called me that it was very important that i get there immediately. at that point, i kind of knew what it was about. >> this evening, penn state students will hold a vigil for for the victims. sarah, twient start on campus there, the statement from coach paterno's son, he would like to speak out but he can't because of the legal process and he's hiring a high-powered defense attorney. what does that tell you? >> we really don't know. attorney general has made it very clear that joe paterno is not a target of this investigation, he'll probably be a witness and he cooperated fully, so, you know that move it could go either way, i think that a lot of people in a situation where it has been this tense and this many -- much more public outrage to get an attorney just to consult. he's also probably going to be one of the key prosecution's witnesses against athletic director tim curley and gary schultz. some concern that you want to get some counsel and some help in your testimony. >> trent, come innen that point, is it a safety valve? standard operating procedure? or as the university goes back to square one and retrace who knew what went when, is this a sign that perhaps even the attorney general at the moment that the coach is not a target, things could change? >> john, i think frankly, you know, what joe paterno is doing is well within his rights and clearly within his best interest. he's not hiring any lawyer, he's hiring the lawyer who george bush sr. hired to represent him in the iran contra affair. he didn't hire any lawyer inspect guy, this lawyer is going to be charged with task of the responsibility trying to clear coach paterno of any charges of perjury and obstruction of justice. they're going to go to square one. i'm not so sure that joe paterno is out of the woods. if he was given graphic information from this graduate assistant, that there was sex going on in the shower, then coach paterno was obligated to take that information and give it in the same graphic detail that was give on the him. if he doesn't do that, under pennsylvania child protection services law, he's violated law the law. if there are any inconsistencies that joe paterno has violated the law. so, look, it goes to the issue of what did he know? when dehe know it? i'm not sure if there was inconsistencies between what mcqueary and what joe paterno told the grand jury and what joe paterno told the at the let ing director. if he down played it, it looked like it was horse play, the reality that explain why the athletic director didn't also didn't take this to authority. frankly he didn't get the information that he should have gotten. >> and roxanne, you're a former penn state cheerleader, your involvement with espn, you have been calling for the coach to step aside. when you hear it, joe paterno, 46 years head coach, iconic figure on your campus hiring a hi high-profile criminal defense attorney, what goes through your mind? >> i don't think he's out of the woods yet. i don't think this is just offensive move by him. i don't think we have the whole story. i don't think he's out of the woods yet. i'm not the legal expert here. but i agree 1,000% what he just said. i think there's more to come. and he needed a top-notched lawyer because these are serious, serious allegations. >> sara, coach mcqueary placed on indefinite leave. one of the witness to one of those horrible incidents back in 20 # 02, is this being done to safeguard him, could he too be facing legal issues that could reflect on the university? >> well, you know the only thing that we know from today is that governor tom corbett in a press conference right before the new university president's press conference, said there were some issues regarding whistleblowers and some question of who was going to be a witness in this case when they were deciding what to do with mcqueary's stay does as an employee of penn state. so, you know, i think that this mcqueary story is evolving. yes, there were threats made against him. the reason last night they said that he wasn't going to be on the sidelines or in the box coaching at saturday's game. now we're finding out today, late today, that he's on paid administrative leave and that's indefinite. >> trent, if you believe the grand jury report and other things that have been reported he's an eyewitness to a child sexual assault, he called coach paterno, not the police, what is his legal liability? >> you know, look, john, he has fundamentally according to law, he's not violated the law, he had an obligation to report this to his authorities. but it's hard to imagine, most red-blooded american men, it's hard to imagine that you could watch a child being sexually assaulted and not do anything. whether he's violated the letter of law there's an argument that he may be did not. but he clearly violated the spirit of the law. there was something not right here. i'm not certain that we have seen the last of mcqueary being potentially indicted in this case. >> under the cloud of all of this, lot of questions about the future of the program the future of the coaching staff, there's a game tomorrow, a prominent sports columnist of the boston globe, wrote this -- it's still not too late to fire the coaching staff, cancel the game and cancel the season. penn state has to a deliver and restore some of its soul. you agree with that? >> i have a lot of respect for dn. i agree with him. those thoughts ran across my mind, too. i don't want to any way cheat the players who, you know, worked really hard this season, i think that really takes a backseat, i just don't how we can go into a game with hundreds of thousands people cheering, wearing all blue, very se celebratory with this hanging over. very serious and very sad allegations hanging over the university. i don't like how it looks at all. >> sara, you're standing on the campus the evening before this big game, normally a very festive time on campus, what is it like tonight? >> you know, it's a little bit quiet here tonight. especially for a friday night before a football game. this was supposed to be a huge football game. the last home game of the season and the first home game against nebraska since nebraska joined the big ten. this is supposed -- tomorrow is supposed to be huge. now it's huge in a different way, not so fun way. we did hear from president rodney erickson, there were some factions of students wearing all blue in support of the victims. what we also need to look for whether or not there are going to be protesters. what the security is going to be like. are people going to show up for this? there's a high focus on security because of all of those concerns. i think that tomorrow, you know, could be unlike any other football saturday ever in happy valley. >> sara, trent and roxanne, thank you for your help. thanks to you all. president obama is due in san diego any time now, first stop on a nine-day trip. up next, we'll ask cnn's fareed zakaria what he wants and what he's liking to get. ♪ you want to save money on car insurance? no problem. you want to save money on rv insurance? no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things? fuggedaboud it. this is new york. hey little guy, wake up! aw, come off it mate! geico. saving people money on more than just car insurance. there's ed tonight of a significant reshuffling of the republican presidential race. new numbers explaining why rick perry is trying a mix of humor and humility in a bid to save his faltering campaign. the stab at late-night comedy. >> listen, you try concentrating with mitt romney smiling at you, that is one handsome dude. yeah. i wanted to help take the heat off of my buddy herman cain. >> okay. >> and it's not every day that you hear a big state governor and candidate for president says this -- >> you know, i said something at the orlando debate that was arrogant. >> or this -- >> i want the people who disagreed with me on that day to know that i'm sorry. >> here's why perry is so sorry, a new poll out tonight stacks the gop field this way -- former massachusetts governor mitt romney at 23%. herman cain at 17%. ron paul at 10% and rick perry in single digit. safe to say, newt gingrich senses an opening. >> i believe that everybody who has assumed that one particular former governor of a neighboring state, was automatically going to dominate new hampshire. is in for a great shock. because i think we can have an honest debate about what we need in washington and what we need in america and i have a hunch that we're going to do very well appealing to the people. >> is the gop really ready to go back to future with speaker newt gingrich? with us a little bit later susan molinari. i want to show our viewers governor perry walking out on stage last night on david letterman. we have his video -- no, we don't have that video i'm told. he makes this appearance last night. humor is a great gift in politics. self-deprecating humor. >> i got to say i have heard a lot of reporters saying today that he probably had better press yesterday than candidates have had one in single day than in the last six months. looking at the ratings of to show, 2 1/2 more times people saw him do the mea culpa tour than his debate flubs. >> james, humor helps. another thing that helps is money, the big question, perry has slipped into single digits. lot of his national fund-raising might dry up, he wants to move the poll numbers up, he's spending almost $1 million on an add. first candidate to go national with commercials. here's little snippet of that ad. >> i'm curious what did your wife say to you last night. >> last night? my wife said i loved you. >> that's not the commercial. to drop $1 million on fox news right now, tells you what? >> you know, it tells me that he got money, he raised a lot of money and he's in the doing very well and he's not going to do very well for the simple fact that he's completely ill-suited to do. he can't run for president. he doesn't have the skill, he doesn't have the ability to be on a national stage, that's clear to everybody and it's abundantly clear to the primary voters. he can't buy his way out of this. i respect his campaign for trying this. it's evident that he's in over his head by 1,000 miles. >> congresswoman molinari, you're a romney supporter, let's start with rick perry, james said that he's in over a mile. we have watched as the republican electorate who will be the guy that let romney -- let them fight it out, do you think perry is done, when you look, he has money, but he has a good infrastructure and he's a big state governor, he has herman cain and newt gingrich ahead of him? >> right now he's done, because we have seen the flavor of the day change so much, next week is going to decide an awful lot for the voters. how will he do in this debate on sunday on foreign affairs? but i also think he has to get his numbers back up. you have been talking about the new polls that show him going down. does herman cain survive another week? can newt sustain where he is right now? i think this next week is going to show. >> let's show the poll numbers again -- congresswoman, you served with speaker gingrich in the house of representatives. he left under not the best of circumstances. but he has performed very well in these debates, is the republican party ready to go back to the future or is this a holding place for voters who are still looking? >> you know, newt is the person that i think who can be absolutely very smart and has done very well and acquitted himself very well in the debates. i think at a time, if he is still at this level, first of all he doesn't have the money the rest of the candidates, we know that he doesn't have the organization f he becomes a serious contender just like with herman cain or rick perry, once you get higher up there the background, the history all comes out again. how long can you sustain that background at this level. >> herman cain at 17%. this poll was completely conducted after sharon bialak came forward. there are the numbers. look at these numbers from a new cbs news poll tonight. women who support cain for the republican nomination. in october it was 28%. now it's 15%. that tells you, even though in the national polls that he's doing okay, he's still got a problem. >> of course, he has a problem. as you recall, after we went through some of this, we had a problem after that, too, we were able to come back, i'm doubtful that cain can come back. the amazing thing about these polls, romney's numbers are 23 plus or minus one. the most consistent thing that you see in polling, it's literally every time, never a surprise about to romney, at what point does he bust above 25% in his polls. he can't do. i'm fascinated to hear what susan think about it. it has gone on for a long time now. >> at what point does he start give them money bachmann, santorum in the race? if you're looking for this person for a long time, perry is spending nationally on fox hoping that he can boost his numbers. herman cain is still it for the moment. newt gingrich is the guy on the guy who will be the consecuti k second -- conservative alternative to romney. >> start averaging in the polling, mitt romney hasn't gotten 25%.00%. you see rick perry on an upswing along with newt, people are still trying to find someone besides mitt romney. >> volatility is the catch word in republican politics. thanks for coming in on a friday night. big debate tomorrow night. cnn debate next week. this race is playing out, it's interesting. president obama is on his way first to hawaii and then to asian. we'll ask fareed zakaria about the china challenge, next. 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