stoically as the verdict was refld he was then handcuffed. they denied his request for bail pending sentencing. >> dr. murray is remanded to the custody of the los angeles sheriff with no bail. and in the interim, he is to be kept in the care and custody of the sheriff. >> also tonight, a chicago woman accuses republican presidential candidate herman cain of an unwanted sexual advance. sharon said she came to washington to ask cain for help finding a job. she said he first shock her by upgrading her hotel room to a suite and then she says, he shocked her again. >> he suddenly reached over and he put his hand on my leg. under my skirt and reached for my genitals. he also grabbed my head and brought it toward his crotch. >> bialek said she wants just one thing from mr. cain. >> to come clean. just admit what you did. admit you were inappropriate to people. >> the cain campaign said it never happened but the statement tonight does not answer whether cain knows bialek or whether he was with her on the night in question. he remains the front-runner but tonight the new numbers stug mounting allegations are taking a toll. more on that breaking news in a moment. first the very latest on the day's other big crime and punish many drama. the verdict against dr. conrad murray. the jury of seven men and five women deliberated for nine hours, capping 23-day trial. murray now faces up to four years in prison and a loss of his medical license. now that he has been convicted of involuntary manslaughter. the prosecution case that murray caused jackson's death by recklessly and repeatedly giving the entertainter surgical anesthetic propofol for treating insomnia. there was a large crowd outside the courtroom. most of them jackson fans who greeted the verdict with cheers and applause. was justice served? ted rowlands was outside the courthouse. two days of deliberation, a pretty quick verdict. a surprise to anybody? >> reporter: well, no. because of the timing, john. the fact that this jury wasn't out three, four, five days and they came to a unanimous decision i think most people figured that there would be a guilty verdict. of course, you never know until you hear it. however, it seemed as though the defense team was ready for this. it seemed as though dr. conrad murray was ready for it. when they put him in handcuffs, he got out and was heading out. he turned and looked at his mother, he looked at his daughter who was crying on the second row on the defense side. and he sort of gave them a knowing nod as if to say, it will be okay. his girlfriend nicole valley res who testified in this trial and has a child with conrad murray said i love you. as for the jacksons, there was an audible reaction from la toya jackson and/or kathy hilton who were sitting together. but for the most part, the jacksons were somber. they did however exchange hugs after the jury left the room with david walgren, the lead prosecutor who did an outstanding job in this case. mrs. jackson stopped and hugged the prosecutor before she left the courtroom. murray now has been taken to the l.a. county jail. he will be there until he is sentenced. on the 29th of this month. >> and watching that at the very end as the judge was wrapping up the proceedings, it was interesting to watch the deputies handcuff dr. murray while he was still seated in the chair. normally they wait for him to stand up as the proceedings are ending. back on the 29th, sentencing then. that is the issue, right? he faces up to four years in prison. are there any other questions to be answered between now and that next court appearance? >> reporter: the big question is the state of southern california broke. a lot of nonviolent offenders are getting light sentences because of that. and or are not going to state penitentiaries. so will this judge give them maximum four years and will he end up serving his time in a county jail? or go to the state pen? >> questions raised by ted rowlands. great job covering the trial. now joining us to ago little deeper, legal contributor for "in session." and sunny hostin. i start to start with you. what sealed it for the prosecution? >> it had to have been the pharmacy records. four gallons of propofol delivered to conrad murray's, not his clinic or a hospital but to conrad murray's girlfriend's house. and then of course, transferred over to michael jackson. it was the trail. i wrote this on the daily beast today. it was the trail that conrad murray left for himself that really was his undoing. those pharmacy records. his phone and e-mail records. that show he couldn't possibly have been paying attention to michael jackson those final few hours of his life. he was on the phone and he was sending e-mails on his imphone. >> let's follow up. i want to you listen to the testimony of the cardiologist who was part of the prosecution's case, making the case that number one, dr. murray was negligent for giving michael jackson the drug in the first place. then he goes on. >> if the patient michael jackson was able to administer to himself either lorazepam and or propofol without conrad murray's knowledge, doesn't that by necessity mean conrad murray was neglecting or abandoning the patient for that to happen without dr. murray's knowledge? >> yes, sir. i want to -- again, i didn't think i said this, but when you monitor a patient, you never leave their side. especially after giving propofol. >> stacey, the expert witnesses for the prosecution painted a pretty damming picture of dr. murray's behavior and his demeanor. >> absolutely. when you had dr. steinberg take the stand and then dr. schafer, they basically laid out the case themselves did not just saw it was one issue that substantially caused the death. they gave a litany for a number reasons why there was gross negligence. it wasn't just giving propofol. it was leaving. it was not having the proper devices. not having staff. not calling. so all of these issues led to the guilty verdict in this case. >> and sunny hostin, i want to you will have to another one of the expert witnesses providing what the prosecution, this methodical case to say he was a bad doctor to begin with. at the very end, incredibly negligent. >> it's your opinion that conrad murray will still be a direct cause of michael jackson's death, correct? >> yes. >> why is that? >> that's because he is a physician who has brought propofol into the room, started an intravenous and provided access to propofol, to a patient who may in fact be developing a dependency on sedatives. and he has been entrusted by michael jackson to look after his safety every night. he has failed that responsibility while enabling the administration of intravenous propofol. he is responsible for every drop of propofol in that room. >> sunny, in this case, we watch in these high profile cases, in this case they kept a pretty fair sxoe damning focus. >> they really tried this very leanly. they did not overcharge it. many say there was enough evidence to charge second-degree murder. and i think that is action raxt b , i think that was accurate but they went with manslaughter them did not have a fall back charge. so this could have been an acquittal. the jury had no other choice. i think the prosecution did a superb job of leanly trying this case. not overcharging it. focusing on conrad murray and the deviations from the standard of care. this really sounded in medical malpractice, a lot of those cases are very complicated. they're not user friendly. not so in this case. the prosecution team did a wonderful job of making the evidence very, very simple for this jury. and eighth ten-hour deliberation in a case like this is actually quite good. >> and one of the questions the prosecution team faced after the trial, they went at the trial them did face questions. should they have charged it up higher? should they have pressed ahead? do you think they could have made that case? >> i'm still a prosecutor. i supervise the unit in the state attorney's office. quite often, people want us to take it to a higher level. even in the casey anthony case. people said they overcharged, they overcharged them didn't in this case themselves analyzed evidence the. it wasn't when they came in and decided to willy-nilly go through. they analyzed. they looked out to see which would be the best charge to go in front of a jury with. certainly they could have made a case. it is implied, malice second-degree. and his actions could have said there was implied malice. but this was the way to go for a jury to understand, it was gross negligence and to point out all the issues that he was negligent. >> this is the state of california versus dr. conrad murray. the defense tried to make it conrad murray versus michael jackson. trying to make the case that michael jackson did this. that it was his behavior. he was the one who was an addict. he was having not only the propofol. where did the defense in your view fail? >> i think they had a no win case, honestly. the state of california led by jerry brown, their attorney general, has let it be known now that these doctors to whom the celebrities go while they're doctor shopping are not going to be allowed to get away with it anymore. david walgren is a perfect example of the perfect golden boy prosecutor. he didn't overcharge. he said let's get him on what we can get him on. and i think when david walgren looked at the jury and said, you know what? nobody long exactly what happened in that room between conrad murray and michael jackson. but the very fact is, that conrad murray brought in the propofol. he brought in the lore as pam, it wouldn't have been there unless he did it. the defense didn't, how can you argue with that? you can't. >> stay with us. before we go to break, several members of the jackson family and some of his friends spoke to jane velez-mitchell of our sister network as they left the room. >> justice was served. yes. it wasn't enough time though. >> what would you say -- >> michael is with us. michael is with us. >> tell us what you would say to america. >> just thank you so much. i'm just happy it's over with. nothing will bring him back but i'm happy he was found guilty. >> thank you, america. thank all the fans. thank the prosecuting team of i want to thank you. jane. i love you. >> what would you say to michael? >> i'm going to say something. michael loves everybody out here. we all love him. and guess what? he was in that courtroom and that's why victory was served. >> still to come, dr. sanjay gupta joins us. and here's quae. if michael jackson can pay $150,000 a month to get drugs whenever he wants, how many other doctors are there just like that in hollywood? three years from now, a 2011 ford fusion is projected to be worth more than a 2011 toyota camry. any thoughts on this news? are you sure? i'm absolutely positive. fusion is projected to hold its resale value better than camry. ♪ you want to save money on car insurance? no problem. you want to save money on rv insurance? no problem. you want to save money on motorcycle insurance? no problem. you want to find a place to park all these things? fuggedaboud it. this is new york. hey little guy, wake up! aw, come off it mate! geico. saving people money on more than just car insurance. a los angeles jury convicts conrad murray of involuntary manslaughter. jackson died of an overdose of a powerful sedative called propofol which is used in operating rooms for anesthesia. witnesses claimed he obtained large quantities of drug. and they said even if jack injected himself know dr. murray should still be held responsible. >> he has been entrusted by michael jackson to look out for his safety every night. and he has failed that responsibility while enabling the administration of intravenous propofol. he is responsible for every droch propofol in that room. >> cnn medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is with us now. also, the criminal defense attorney, and diane diamond, a special correspondent for "newsweek." she is the author of be careful hue love. i want to start with you. when you watched the prosecution lay out this methodical case saying number one, dr. murray is responsible. number two, even if michael jackson somehow injected himself, dr. murray is responsible. as a doctor, a member of the medical community, what went through your mind when you heard all the things dr. murray did. i would say crossing the line from caregiver definitively. the prosecution made its case to the jury, to killer. >> two years ago, this was so hard to hear for the members of the medical communicate. that propofol, a medication that most doctors who work in hospitals know and know quite well. that it could be thought to be used this way outside of a clinical setting inside someone's home. designed to give sleep. it was so strange. but very specifically, besides the fact they said this was something that most doctors would never do. they said here's why. because you need to have proper resuscitation on standby. you need proper monitoring equipment. you need to have someone always present. oxygen, all these thing there. thing that you find in a clinical setting in a hospital. they made the case and they explained why it was so problematic for propofol to be administered this way. >> and trent, you're a defense attorney. you've handled high profile cases. did the defense fail in some way or did this just, was this stack against them? >> stacked against them. from the very beginning, my suspicion was that the defense would probably at some point enter a plea. try to get a plea deal before this case found its sea legs. they really did not. going forward, i think what that for conrad murray really was arrogance got the best of him. i think arrogance got the best of him and his defense team at the very outset of the case. the bifggest part of the case ws the two-hour plus interview that he gave to law enforcement at the time he was arrested. he wasn't arrested. at the time that he was asked to give a statement and they nearly arrested him they didn't and he gave the statement and he went on and on. his lawyers allowed him to talk. endlessly over that period of time, he gave incriminating information that really ultimately led to the prosecution having some of their strongest pieces of evidence. >> those recordings were damning. that was evidence the if you will, laid out in a methodical way. then there was the emotion. all this happened. michael jackson's death when he was planning this big comeback show. the prosecution also entered this into evidence. >> the emotions there, the drugged out voice of michael jackson making the case that he wants this comeback show be the best in the world to prove he was the best in the world. from an emotional standpoint, i think it's pretty obvious. why was that important for the prosecution to get that in? >> the prosecution wanted the jurors to see that this is a doctor who said he wanted to try to help this person. he's in a drugged out state and he orders all that propofol. and look at the state of mind that this person is in. so this was very important for the prosecution. i think it was also very important for the prosecution to show consciousness of guilt in this case. without the outright confession, his omissions alone were as good as the confession was. the idea that he hid part of the drip. the idea that he never told anybody involved in this indication that might have been able to help that he gave michael jackson propofol. and i think that was huge for the jury to see and it showed consciousness of guilt on his part. but humanizing michael jackson, letting the jurors hear what he was really ball was huge for the prosecution. >> in one way it does humanize him but it is also pretty horrifying. in the idea that michael jackson is a grown man. a lot of this were his decisions. i'm not skewsing anything dr. murray did. when you hear what dr. murray did and then you their michael jackson. this is a bizarre world. >> it makes you wonder about that comeback tour. 50 concerts? it sounds like he could not even do one concert. i think the most important piece of evidence put in was that tape of michael jackson. because it was taken in may. early may. he didn't die until the end of june. this doctor, for some reason tape-recorded him and he knew what kind of shape he was in. he knew he was drug dependent or drug addicted. he knew his health was failing. and yet as walgren said, what did he do? he ordered more propofol and more benz over diazepine for michael jackson to die jefls i think trent is exactly right. that tape of murray plus this tape of michael jackson sealed the deal. conrad murray locked himself in early. i only gave him 25 milligrams of propofol and i was only gone for two minutes. the rest of the testimony proved that that just wasn't true. it just couldn't have been true. >> dr. gupta, is there a message to the medical community in this message? or is dr. murray so far out there, that there is nobody else throughout that needs to learn this lesson? >> a little of both. when i first heard this, i was talking to you. it was so bizarre that it was hard to fathom that someone would think of abusing propofol in this way outside a clinical setting. propofol isn't even considered a controlled substance. it is in hospitals and clinics will but the fact that people would take that medication and use it in the home. it seemed almost unimaginable to a lot of people not to say people haven't abused this drug in hospitals but not like this. there is also a message. it you've alluded to it already. about these doctors for hire. he's the hollywood doctors as they're being calledism interviewed some of them myself. they are plentiful in many cities across the country. what exactly is their obligation? what are they doing? and how do they not let things like this happen just because someone has resources or wealth will. >> thank you. he will stay with us and be with us in the next block. be sure to watch tonight at 11:00 eastern. for a special report, michael jackson, the final days. the postal service is critical to our economy-- delivering mail, medicine and packages. yet they're closing thousands of offices, slashing service, and want to lay off over 100,000 workers. the postal service is recording financial losses, but not for reasons you might think. the problem ? a burden no other agency or company bears. a 2006 law that drains 5 billion a year from post-office revenue while the postal service is forced to overpay billions more into federal accounts. congress created this problem, and congress can fix it. michael jackson's personal physician is in jail tonight and face up to four years in prison after facing involuntary manslaughter charges in the death of pop singer. the defense argued it was his own fault and contended dr. murray was trying to wean him away from it even though he helped jackson get that drug. for more on hollywood drug culture, we're joined by dr. drew pinsky. still with us, trent copeland. dr. drew, let me go to you first. how many dr. muirs are there out there? if dr. murray had said no, could michael jackson have found another? >> absolutely. not only could he have found another, he certainly could have found people as you hear with dr. klein giving him the demerol on a regular basis. found people to giving others. they get substandard care. those of us who provide care, it is the standard of careful every time somebody seeks anything special or out of standard, out of the ordinary, they're much more likely to get something substandard. the other issue is once say, dr. murray or any of the others in this town get ahold of somebody and realize they're in over their head with addiction issues, they need to assemble a team. that's where this went off the rail. these people were not consulting with the appropriate people that could have poten