Reopening the economy and specific to schools, what would have to happen first for school to open specifically in new york city in regards to the planning . They have to work together. You can open one system lets see, gears this is an analogy. Transportation and economic and and schools. They all intermesh, you have to turn the other two gears. You cant tell me to go back to to work. You cant tell me to go back to work in new york city if you dont have the Transit System operating. I take the train from west chester to new york city. I cant go back to work. Unless you want everybody to drive which would be pandamonium in four minutes. If you want me to go back to work, and children are not back to school, whos watching the children . People didnt want to close the schools because they said hospital workers wont be able to show up because the children will be at home. If hospital workers dont show up, we have a major problem. Our major concern was collapse of the hospital. All of these things have to be coordinated and coordinated on a statewide basis. There were Many School Districts that disagree. We have 700 School Districts in the state. All the School District makes their own decision. I know. In a situation like this, you cant have 700 School Districts making all the decisions. You can consult and cooperate and etc. We have to have one plan at the end of the day because we have to take new york and try to coordinate it with new jersey and connecticut and delaware and pennsylvania and rhode island to the best we can. And this virus does not understand. Schools and transportations and jobs they dont work on a county basis. It does not work that way. Suffix county, thats a nice lineation. The entire metropolitan area and you go upstate, you can argue there should be a differentiation based on numbers or differentiation and thats going to be the conversation when we bring connecticut and new jersey and pennsylvania, rural parts of the state. We have metropolitan area. Thats all going of to be talked through and reconcile. We are talking to a number of states and we want to coordinate as much as possible. Focusing primarily on our tristate area. The more we can. You also have to balance the complexity and unwillingness of coming up with a plan relatively quickly so that we can agree on. Well try to work with everyone but again you have different states and different situations and you have to prioritize where you really need coordination. We need coordination for connecticut first and for most. Thats where our work force comes from. You have a total interconnection among those things. People live from connecticut and they drive to new jersey. There is a total interconnection among them. Thats the primary place for coordination. If i tell you the announcement today, why would you come here at 2 00, except for my humor. You can have a hot spot depends on how you define hot spot. Hot spot within five miles or 100 miles . It depends on how you define hot spot . Is it 2 people or 25 infection rate . You have clusters that pop up of course the state. As soon as you see some smoke and you see a little fire, run out of there as fast as you can. In buffalo we have had clusters that popped up, nassau and suffix and rochester and rockla rockland, they all have clusters. When you say you believe the worst is over, are you encouraging the kind of behavior that you are trying to prevent, this optimism for people to get out of their home. No, thats why i have said it 50 times, stay the course, take precautio precautions, stay inside. Thats why i have said it 100 times to repetitive levels. Facts are facts, i am not going to lie to the public. Numbers are numbers. I need the public to believe in the credibility of what we are doing, right . Credibility comes from two elements in my opinion. Are you giving me all of the information or are you spinning me . Are you deciding that you cant tell me facts because i may become too optimistic. Are you manipulating me with giving me information which is what i think you suggest. No, you get all the facts. I am not worried that you cant handle information. Second, what i am proposing you do is drawn from those facts here is all the information, i work for you and i give you all the information no spin and no gloss and no sugar, no glazing, hear the facts. I am not worried that you cant handle the facts or you are being optimistic or irrational. Hear all the facts. Second component, here is what i propose based on those facts. I think it is the intelligent response to those facts. I hope you agree with me that it is the intelligent response and follow the proposal because i need you to follow the proposal because it is all about you. If you, the public and the people decide to social distancing. If the people dont decide to stay home, nothing works. I can never mandate 19 Million People, you must stay in your house. New yorkers can say um, i think you are being overly dramatic or too political or you dont know what you are talking about. What do i do with 19 Million People . Go out and arrest 19 Million People . They have to believe it. So they get all the facts. I am not going to shape the information they get. Here is my policy based on the numbers. Here is what i suggest and i hope you think it is not only creditable but competence and smart. I hope you accept it. Thats the best i can do. Democratic governor new york andrew cuomo, he opens saying he has some good news. The curve of new york continues to flatten. And he showed you the cases recently flatten. You can see the u. S. Death toll at 22,154 on the side of your screen. New york state tends to be running around 47 and 48 of the National Death toll there. The challenge moving towards a reopening slowly but cautiously. This is time for effective government. Lets discuss with our cguest, dr. Brillent. When they have an apex or a plateau, it looks like if you look at the last five or six days they have a plateau. It is encouraging news but you are no means out of the woods. You are exactly right. Lets take a step back, we did not know physical distancing would stop or help us stop this virus. We look now at this plateau. We have a tool that works. It is not going to reduce the number of cases or deaths on its own. Now that we have this beginning of a plateau, this is not a time to pull back that tool. It is the time to pull it down. Lets find out all the clusters and find the contact and test them. Lets quarantine those and then we can decide where and how we can led up. Lets not slow down and double down. Lets talk about that. You understand and most people watching we learned terms and learned of social distancing and we all learned new terms of this new normal. Nobody knows how long well be at the plateau because nobody has been here before. We are a novel coronavirus. Hes talking about a long period of time. Only when we have a vaccine, a year or a year and a half away. Hes talking about the interim period. He says we need more testing. New york has been a leader nationally and new york leading the country of the number of te testing. His whole new paradigm of if you are going to put people more out on the streets and starting people to go to work, whos most essential and how often do you take peoples temperatures. Walk us through the challenges ahead. I live here for ten years and working on a smallpox program. That kills one out of three. You can see on peoples faces it was not asymptomatic spread but we learned something. When we thought we are in the clear and we led up and we stop finding cases and went away and looked the other way, the virus came back. The density of susceptible has hardly been touched. It is hardly been touched we have learned how to pace the epidemic. We should use the breathing space that we have to find every case of the cluster and find out a vaccine where we have a strong tool in quarantine. Find every case and test them and contact them and quarantine. Thatll get us through the time we need through the antivirus and vaccine. Thatses the new normal. We are not ready up to the point that you can do that testing and identification and quarantine those in needed. Dr. Larry brilliant. Lets bring in our correspondent kaitlyn collins. The medical conversation there with dr. Brilliant. You heard dr. Cuomo said it is his job getting people to back to work. Hes thinking about it but he has to be careful. Just before the president of the United States tweeting out this is my decision, not the governors. Thats my paraphrase of the president s two tweets. Thats what hes saying in his tweets. Cuomo never mentions President Trump and he did say a few other regional partners, hef was goin to try to do it not with the president but with a group of governors. The optimum is to have a coordinated original plan as you can. I understand the coordination can be some what of an oxymoron but to the extent we can work with connecticut and rhode island and delaware and pennsylvania, i want to. It is smarter for everyone and for people of their state and the people of my state. This is a time for smart competence effective government. Thats his take. This is one line of those two tweets. It is the decision of the president. The governor clearly does not see it that way. Thats what we have been hearing from many governors. Theyre the ones making the decision here. Since the president floating the easter deadline which has come and gone reopening the country. A lot of people saying theyre going to make their decisions based on the data they have. The president declared this morning he has the power to entrepreneur up the states and the country. He was not the one that closed them down. It was the governors. Some of them were very belated on doing that including my home state alabama. One of the last one to issue a stayathome order. People in that state were going out and doing things despite those federal guidelines that the white house put out because their governors have not put something out. These governors are going to look at the white house for guidan guidance. They have been saying that multiple times and not only when it comes the gears in the hospital. They want to know how the federal government is planning this. We know that comes as a president is preparing to open that task force. Trump is saying he does have the authority, we have not heard any governor agreed with the president on that. Before that we only heard them say really theyll be making their own decisions. Ultimately it is going to come down to the people. When they feel confidentabmfort to work and going to the stores freely. Thats what makes the ultimately decision of opening up the country. It is the consumer. The president seems to have a different opinion at the moment. Well see. Kaitlan collins. When we come back, rick san torn is joining us. Confident financial plans, calming financial plans, complete financial plans. Theyre all possible with a cfp® professional. Find yours at letsmakeaplan. Org. Theyre all possible with a cfp® professional. There will be parties and family gatherings. There will be parades and sporting events and concerts. To help our communities when they come back together, respond to the 2020 census now. Spend a few minutes online today to impact the next 10 years of healthcare, infrastructure and education. Go to 2020census. Gov and respond today to make americas tomorrow brighter. Its time to shape our future. 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And of course we did not get to the president s guidelines until a month after that. Why does he get so mad when his people tell the truth . Well, i think thats what upsetting him. If you look at the time when the commission recommended, there were maybe half a dozen or a dozen of people died in the country from the virus. When it looks like there was not a whole lot concern would have been a very unusual thing to do and unwarranted thing to do at that time. I think the president looks like he was ahead of the curve as you know and he talks about it all the time. Imagine if he would have done this, he would get criticized for this, too. We need a team that looks forward instead of trying the second guess everything. No disaster of the history of this country. They are all talk. He also does some good things and he seems to be on a good footing right now. I hope you are right. The exercise of our democracy and the sense that the documents of the New York Times story, the transparency of government. I get it. When the middle of a crisis and you are the president , you dont want to talk about that now. You want to talk it later. He was right, Chuck Schumer calling him racist. That was the right call. It is fair to say when he made that right call. He did not take urgent step to ramp up testings and do a few other things that may have helped him or would have helped him at the time. Look, i dont think the president gets a perfect score on his response but he gets some high marks for doing things that were controversial and lower marks for not heeding the advice on something early on. Overall what hes done is hes broken the glass and he allowed the government function in a way they have not to expedite a lot of things moving forward from testing and therapies, i know the fda is working overtime. I know personally because i have been involved with some companies that are trying to work this tchlt they are bending over backward to make this therapy available and i think the president deserves the credit for that. Help me out for this. You are a constitutional conservative and you have different views on federal powers. The president tweeted that it is his call, we live in a 50state republic. I spoke to many governors and Governor Cuomo of new york just saying this is up to me and i am going to try to work with my Partner Partners in the region. The president cant order the reopening of the american of the economy. Thats correct. The president can set a tone. If the president goes out and says in these particular areas whether it is geographic al that we have morre robust testings. There is a big effort out there trying to get businesses to do testing on their own and not to send people to the hospital just to do screenings so their employees can feel safe coming to work. Everybody from Major League Baseball and manufactures looking at employees to see how they can giver them a security. The president can set a tone for that. He should not try to over law. It wont work. What he can do is set a tone. It is time to start to get back to work and we need to work with governors regionally and to be able to activate certain areas and put protocols in place and to give people comfort. Kaitlyn says it best. Just because people athe presid to go back to work, theyre not going to go back to work. Theyll want some level of comfort. Senator santorum. Thank you. Well see how this sorts out in the days ahead. Senator, i really appreciate your insight. A new warning that the drug that the president often talks about or at least one of his relatives, chloroquine. Veterans, how can one phone call save you 2000 a year . By refinancing your va loan at todays incredibly low rates at newday usa. Newdays va streamline refi is the quickest and easiest refi theyve ever offered. You can lower your payments by this time next month without having to verify your income, without getting your home appraised, and theres no money out of pocket. Call newday right now. A new study warns against using high doses of chloroquine to treat coronavirus. President trump quoting it is as game changer for covid19. Sanjay this is a study in brazil that was called up abruptly. What they were seeing were scary. It was. I should preface by saying it is a small study and it did not and was not randomized and did not have a placebo control to this. It was so early and small. There is a lot of studies out there because of all the interests in hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine. Some studies showed benefits but this one did not show benefits. This one did show benefits and did show some harm with high doses. 81 people divided into two groups. One group got a lower dose and one got a higher dose which is 600 milligrams, twice a day for ten days. What they found there were patients who died. There were also people who developed these heart problems. The problem with these small studies is we dont know for certain that the medication caused those deaths. There has been this link to heart problems. Thats why you have to do larger studies on this. Certain doses of this medication may be too toxic. We dont know of the right dose if there is a right dose at all. Before the weekend, john, in sweden where they have been studying this as well. They given guidance for all the hospitals in sweden to stop giving the hydroxychloroquine because this is their words, theyre not seeing any effect so far in the studies and they also cant rule out serious s