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CNNW Inside Politics December 2, 2019

Attacks never interrupted her work. Now she speaks out. The president this morning says he is imposing new steel tariffs on brazil and argentina. Our Steel Companies will be very happy and our farmers will be very happy. I dont know why the president did what he did this morning or what the justification was. Do any of you . Youre breaking news. We begin the hour with the president claim, quote, case over as the impeachment inquiry now enters a dramatic new phase. A report due tomorrow by the house intelligence committee, and then wednesday the first i am impeachment hearing by the Judiciary Committee. He claims new evidence of his exoneration. The ukranian president came out and said very strongly that President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong. That should be case over. He just came out a little while ago and he said President Trump did absolutely nothing wrong, and that should end everything. Now, in that interview with time and several other publications, the ukranian president , zelensky, said, look, i never talked to the president from the position of a quid pro quo. Thats not my thing. But he does assert his american counterpart put ukraine at risk by stalling military aid. Quote, i dont want us to look like beggars, he said in that interview, but you have to understand were at war. If youre our strategic partner, then you cant go blocking anything for us. I think thats just about fairness. Its not about a quid pro quo, it just goes without saying. Here with me to share the reporting and insights, cnns dana bash, Michael Scherer with the new york times, jackie canesis with the daily beast. He picks a piece of it that works for him and he ignores the rest, which does not. Yeah, its classic. Its classic trump. Because he wants to get ahead of it, he wants to set the narrative, he wants to take whatever it is that he can to channel it on his twitter feed, channel it on another cable outlet, channel that takes what he says and uses it as gospel for the people who want to believe everything he says. And the way you laid it out is exactly right. First of all, lets just take a step back and remember who this guy is. The leader of ukraine has been dancing on the head of a pin since he took office. Hes got to be careful not to make the United States angry and that the commander in chief happens to be donald trump. He is so in the spotlight right now, hes got to be careful, but he was trying to protect himself and protect the integrity of his actions. It doesnt hurt to remind people that even when zelensky did say there was no quid pro quo, i didnt feel pressured and some other instances, its impossible to not feel pressure when you are a country at a disadvantage that needs the United States to help you fend off russia. So its not fair standing no matter what he says. Its baked in. You are the weaker party in the conversation, you are the needy party in the conversation. So this is happening. The president again trying to cherry pick but smartly politically to make his case to his base. As we head into the week, today, this evening, House Committee members can see the drafted report based on the public hearings and based on the work of the committee. Then on tuesday they will vote on that report. That will be done in private. They send it over to the Judiciary Committee which holds its first public impeachment hearing on wednesday, and by friday the white house has a deadline. The president has declined to send his lawyers to the first hearing. He has a deadline on friday to decide about sending them to the second hearing. Listen to them about why i wont play. The whole thing is a hoax. Everybody knows it. The president uses the word hoax. His team used the question of fairness, which i think is a different conversation. We sit here at noon on monday in the east. The hearing is scheduled on wednesday. This is about impeaching a president of the United States. Drop the names, drop the party label, its employ impeachi iabe president of the United States, and the democrats havent said who the witnesses will be. The first clip you played, the president is getting to the substance of the argument, the question of whether he actually did anything wrong. In a sense the debate has moved past that. The republicans tried that for several weeks during the Intel Committee hearing. What the Republican Party and frankly the white house has shifted to is this idea of fairness, is this idea of are the democrats perverting what is a constitutional process by sort of forcing it down the throat of the American People without giving due process to the sitting american president , without giving him the right to defend himself. The president wants to make that argument, too, but he still cant quite let go of the idea of wanting to defend himself on the substance as well. I think its easier for them to make that process argument when theyre on the outside. Its easier to shout from the outside that this is a hoax, and theyre not involving us in that process when theyre not involved at all. I think the president understands that although he cant focus his message on the process, he is sort of saying that in the substance. He didnt sit for an interview but he did a takehome test, so theres certainly some precedent for that, and maybe theyll use that when it comes to the senate trial. There are some republicans, one mcclintock, who says take a lawyer to the table. I think it would be to the president s advantage to have his attorneys there. That is his right. But i can also understand how he is upset at the illegitimate process we saw unfold in the intelligence committee. So you think they should bring in lawyers. I think its a disadvantage, yes. Its an interesting debate. Again, the first hearing is supposed to be constitutional experts as democrats try to make the case that they believe th theyve met the bar for impeaching a president. So on one hand the president might not be critical there in that youre not arguing the facts, youre arguing the standard, more or less. But on the other hand, can the president say this is an illegitimate process, or when it comes to the facts, do they need to come in and contest it . If you look at recent history, the president s lawyers, president clintons lawyers, spent a lot of were very active in the senate trial and did right by him in the arguments that they were making for him, and its hard to imagine not having that in a trump impeachment trial. But in the house judiciary, he does have at least a tr tri fecta of people who are on that panels. You have ratcliffe, i believe, and these are people that are going to argue for him, argue on the process and probably about fairness as well. So hell be relying on that. We could call them the three amigos but thats taken. Many times over. Next we continue the conversation. Do democrats face a hard sell on impeachment . Applebees new sizzlin entrees. Now starting at 9. 99. Laso you can enjoy it even ifst youre sensitive. Se. Yet some say it isnt real milk. 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Theyre a bunch of brawlers sometimes on the judicial committee, so it should get pretty hot and under the collar as we go along. I dont think things have been done the way theyve been done in the past, mike, and so it causes some rancor, and it should be pretty much more feisty, i would say, than the Intel Committee was. It is factual, things are as fair or more fair to the republicans and President Trump than they were to president nixon or president clinton. You can read about it, you dont have to believe me. But to the members of this committee, the president has more loyal supporters. He has more aggressive and more theatrical, frankly, and part of this is politics. It is, and even doug collins is someone the president wanted to give a promotion to. He wanted the governor of georgia to promote to fill the Vacant Senate seat there. So hes got many supporters, even the ones who arent as feisty are the Ranking Member on the committee. To your point about collins, discipline is required of both parties as we go forward here. The president s loyalists have been successful, even going to debunked theories. Democrats have to keep their own discipline, which is why i want you to listen to this question put to doug collins here asked by a retired democratic senator. This is a fair question to a republican, but its about the democrats. Evan said yesterday they should look for an offramp and an offramp would be censure. Do you recommend that, too . No, i do not. What did he do to get censured . That would be like saying, we want the democrats to like us again. You dont go after somebody who has viciously gone after you for no reason. This president has done nothing wrong. That is both parties in the political dilemma. Democrats might need to talk private about do we need an offramp . You dont talk about it publicly heading into a critical week for your party. The president did nothing wrong by a Ranking Member on his committee. So it is okay to uphold military aid on a country to your personal attorney who has no standing in the country for personal gain. Doug collins is a rabid house republican. There are people of his ilk in the senate, but there are also different kinds of republicans in the senate, some of whom have said very publicly, yeah, but. Yes, what he did was troubling but its not impeachable. So there could be more Fertile Ground for censure in the senate, which is probably why the former senator, evan bye cautious indiana moderate. Cautious indiana moderate, which there arent a lot of them left, threw that out there. I cant imagine he did it at the behest of the democratic leader, but it is a different place, and we cant get there before we see what happens in the house, but its an important thing to remember about the tone and t tenor of the republicans. Thats a lot of faith for democrats to put on republicans who in the past have hinted maybe going back to Supreme Court battles. It was a completely different animal. There are thoughts that, okay, this person might vote against it, this person might. So thats a lot of trust to put in the other side when the political im just throwing it out there as an option. Of course. One piece of evidence is its not going to happen unless the democrats really present a new and damning case and somehow get Public Opinion to change. The republican sample in this poll, this republican president was better, trump or lincoln . Youre speechless. What that speaks to, i think, is the intensity with which the republican base, the trump base, is, you know, behind the president , behind President Trump. So whether its, you know, doug collins and the republicans in the house or the republicans in the senate, they go into this knowing full well the intensity with which that base still, despite everything thats been revealed in mueller and in ukraine, theyre not straying from this president , and so that gives them a whole lot more confidence than you had in the previous, you know, impeachment efforts which were much more splintered. Im not going to take issue with anyone who supports the president , but i would suggest reading a little history. It does govern how these members are acting. Especially heading into an election where he is the head of your party. And you see what he does to people who criticizes him. If youre a republican right now based on every piece of data that you see, the safest place, no matter what you think, whether you think Rudy Giuliani should have done this, whether the president is wrong, the safest place is to stay right there. And weve seen people like ted tillis, theyre trying to walk this very tight rope in terms of being somewhat critical but not too critical of the president , and well continue to see that, im sure, in the coming weeks. Were also seeing it from republicans who are hiring, someone like a will hurd, even though hes stepping away. It doesnt mean hes done with republicans forever. At least some of those voters are going to be in your Republican Party. Sto up next, the president preparing to meet with World Leaders at nato. Impeachment not far from his mind. Post this. And be there like this. So we give you that. And right now, buy a Samsung Galaxy s10 or note 10. And get one free. When we were looking he wanted someone super quiet. Yeah, and he wanted someone to help out with chores. So, we got jeanpierre. But one thing we could both agree on was getting geico to help with renters insurance. Yeah, geico did make it easy to switch and save. Oh no. Theres a wall there now. Thats too bad. 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Nick, this is labeled a leaders meeting not a nato summit as is tradition. Is there a reason for that . Reporter john, my understanding is there is a reason, and that is that nato has sort of taken a view, if you will, on President Trumps past performance at the g7 meeting, the World Leaders meeting, back in 2018 where he famously didnt sign the communique at the end of that summit, and the thinking is if this is a summit, as these annual big meetings of nato generally are, then therefore there would be a communique. But if it is troublesome to get that communique because the language doesnt fit what President Trump wants, that will be a bigger issue in and of itself. So avoid the confrontation over language and content of a communique and call this a leaders meeting. Thats my understanding, john. And, nick, just from the london perspective, its a bigger meeting. The president often raises burden sharing. He calls it dues. He doesnt often use the correct language. 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