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>> the wind is still howling and some areas the water is rising, in some areas it's going down. we need wheelchairs, hospital beds, walkers. we were just in a lot of problem right now. >> here's the simulation from the national hurricane center. dorian literally, literally inching to the northwest. you could walk faster than this storm. on the ground much of grand bahama island under water, homes battered by wind and rain, then swamped with the storm surge. the red cross says about 13,000 homes there have been destroyed. >> oh, my god. >> you heard it there, oh, my god one woman saying as he walks around her devastated home. she went on to say everything is ruined. they medevaced 19 people out of that community and they're out trying and hoping to find people still trapped in their homes. dorian's effect already being felt on the shores of fse beach. john, tell us what you've been seeing and how the progression is going. >> reporter: it's been like this for 36 straight hours, john, which is to say near tropical storm force winds, waves that have been kicking up like this. periodically we get the outer bands of hurricane dorian passing over us. we expect it to strengthen but just as it's crawling over the bahamas, it is crawling past the florida coast, inching its way up to the carolinas. people here have been bracing for this for days now. the worst of it, believe it or not, is still to come. it won't be until much later today that people in florida really start to begin to feel the impact of some of this. they have been watching the coast 100 miles that way where the storm is very closely and watching the forecast very closely. let's go to chad myers in the weather center for the very latest on that. chad? >> john, we're still 110 miles per hour moving northwest at 2. now, when i woke up this morning it was stationary, then it went to 1 mile per hour and now it's 2, so very, very slowly inching to the north. we're still getting onshore winds from ft. pierce to palm bay all the way to daytona. the eye is still over the bahamas. the eye is about 50 miles wide right now. it will move up toward the north and make a close approach to the carolina coast, either south carolina or north carolina as a 100-mile-per-hour storm. we'll have to watch that. what we're going to watch for here are the winds onshore. you say every time that outer band comes by, the wind picks up. ft. pierce 39, melbourne 39, up at a buoy it was 54, a gust from last hour. hurricane warnings are posted all the way from florida to savannah at this hour and even farther to the north around charleston as well. 10 to 15-foot storm surge. it is going down now across the bahamas but that's at least where we were. the airport was under five feet of water. it was 6 or 7.5 feet above water when it started and so that's 12 feet at least. why did the storm finally stop? why did it not keep going like it was? well, it came out here from not that far from puerto rico, back up here around this high and then it got to here and there was nothing pushing it. it was between two high pressures. there was no wind like this, there was no wind like this, it was just stuck in the middle of nothing. stuck in the middle of nowhere, so it had no push to get out of the way. it just stopped for 36 hours right over the bahamas. we're probably still going to see 4 to 6 inches of rain, maybe 10 inches across parts of the carolinas, but the storm right now has a chance to get stronger. again, i hope it doesn't, but now it's back or will be back into the gulf stream. for a long time today it was over the same water for 36 hours. it used up that heat. it used up the warm water and there was no more warm water left, but now that it's moving, we'll have to keep watching it. hurricane hunters are out there looking for it, men and women putting their lives in harm's way for us. john. >> reporter: chad myers, thank you very much for that forecast. one thing chad said was chilling. the ragged eye wall still, still over freeport in the bahamas. it has been there for days. our patrick oppmann and his team have been riding out the storm there. i don't think they have slept in two full nights. communications have been coming and going as they can. patrick and his team have been sending us updates. they filed this just moments ago. >> reporter: here in grand bahama, the winds have died down somewhat, but the devastating damage and weather conditions still make it very difficult to venture out and get a sense of how bad things are. we have heard reports of the hospital here being flooded, of an animal shelter being basically completely under water, of people who have lost their homes and have basically had to escape with nothing but the clothes on their back. late last night a group of people near the building where we're staying just showed up completely soaking wet. they were carrying a woman who had fallen and had broken her hip. many of the people were carrying their pets. some were very distraught that they had to leave their pets behind in homes that had very quickly flooded. they told us how just in the matter of hours the water began quickly rising in their homes. by the time they got their belongings togetr was so high td not open the doors of their homes. some people had to break their roofs to climb out of their homes. and the sense here is that things have completely broken down. cell phone service is spotty at best. electricity is out. many people have run out of food and fresh water. so it is a dire situation. but until the airport opens here, until the government is able to bring in boats with resources and sliupplies, it's t clear how the situation can improve or when there can be a wide-scale search and rescue effort. so for the moment even as the weather slowly clears, people here in this part of the bahamas are still very much on their own. patrick oppmann, freeport, the bahamas. >> reporter: and our thanks to patrick oppmann and his team for that. what they have been experiencing is nearly beyond belief. the entire coast of florida has been gazing with this wary, watchful eye out toward the sea and the bahamas with the knowledge that hurricane dorian is inching closer to florida. there is still several counties with hurricane warnings here which means they expect hurricane conditions, still counties with mandatory evacuation orders. i want to go to cnn's brian todd who's in sewell point, florida, to get a sense of how things are there. brian. >> reporter: right, john. this scene right here is the reason why people, officials from this area up to jacksonville are telling citizens not to let down their guard, do not return from evacuation because of the storm surge. this area right here, this jetty out of sewall's point, we just talked to a local police officer. he said normally this is three or four feet below what you're seeing now. this is very high storm surge. he said you can usually walk down to the beach and we're just getting sprayed as the storm comes this way. a lot of the outer bands are hitting us intermittently but they're often very strong surges when they hit like this. we're going to get some rain here soon. this area over here, that's sewall's point, the town of sewall's point. about 75% of that town has evacuated according to the local police chief. but you can see this is the indian river lagoon and how low it is to some of these houses. we've already seen some flooded roads and they are telling people do not come back to your homes yet, do not come back from evacuation. this is one of the evacuation routes. this is the stewart causeway that goes over to hutchinson island over there. that's a barrier island. they're also under mandatory evacuation orders. people telling them if you're hunkered down, stay hunkered down, do not come out. the worry is people will get complacent or overconfident and think a lot of the storm has passed north. they'll come out and venture into this stuff and they say it's too dangerous, john. that place could also be cut off. jupiter island, they cannot get to these people when the storm hits its height in the next several hours and won't be able to get to them afterward either. so the people who elected to not leave these barrier islands, could be cut off for a couple of days, john. >> reporter: that's right. people need to be patient because the worst is yet to come in florida. certainly not going to be as bad as the bahamas but will create conditions that are very dangerous. much more of cnn's special coverage of hurricane dorian right after this. at t-mobile, what can you get when you a buy a samsung galaxy note 10? you get unlimited data while on a network that goes further than ever before. use as much as you want. when you want. a netflix subscription on us. stream all your favorite movies and shows. and for a limited time. buy any samsung galaxy note 10 and get one samsung galaxy note 10 for free. that's right. get one samsung 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president played golf yesterday, provoking considerable backlash and accutoday the president defendi himself saying the round of golf was very fast in his words and telling one of his critics, london's mayor, maybe he should pay attention to his own city's problems. the white house insists the president received realtime updates about dorian, including when he was out on the golf course. the president of course is entitled to spend his labor day holiday however he wishes. but remember, the president, this president, once felt very differently about golfing while president. >> obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there. i'm going to be working for you. i'm not going to have time to go play golf. he played more golf last year than tiger woods. but if i were in the white house, i don't think i'd ever see turnberry again. i don't think i'd see doral again. i'm not going to be playing much golf, believe me, if i win this, i'm not going to be playing much golf. >> here with me, julie pace, phil mattingly, vivian solano. there's clearly hypocrisy of the obama reference, which we could just set that aside in the sense that there are a lot of things this president said as a candidate, especially about obama, that we can attribute if you want to just a politician saying things. so there's the hypocrisy. the other question to me more is the empathy factor. yes, the storm was hitting the bahamas yesterday, not really the united states yet. but i can't find the words for it. but has he rewritten all the rules, all the norms? >> the empathy question is something this president has struggled with in a lot of different situations, but certainly when it comes to natural disasters that are barreling down or poised to barrel down on parts of this country, it just doesn't come naturally to him. in some ways he doesn't really try. i do think as president of the united states, yes, he's not going to be down there actually sandbagging anybody's home or building, and he has other departments that are overseeing other parts of the storm management. but ultimately he is in charge. what the federal government does, the response of the federal government to these types of situations ultimately rests on him. and so other presidents have just been a little bit better about the optics around them, understanding that eventually the questions if something does go wrong land on their desk. >> bear in mind he was supposed to be going to poland to begin with and he cancelled that trip in the name of monitoring this hurricane and the very next day he went and played golf. like julie says a lot of it was optics more than anything else. whether or not he was receiving constant updates or not, he may have been at the golf course but it's not a good look at a time of crisis when a lot of americans are evacuating their homes and things like that. they wanted a little more from the president in terms of empathy. >> not a good look. and this is a president who expresses self-confidence. he always says i'm smarter than the generals. now apparently he's also smarter than the forecasters. the president saying this on sunday in a tweet. in addition to florida, south carolina, north carolina, georgia and alabama will most likely be hit much harder than anticipated. looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. already category 5. be careful. god bless everyone. the national weather service in addition to local meteorologists in alabama then feeling compelled, this from the national weather service, alabama will not see any impacts from dorian. we repeat, no impacts from hurricane dorian will be felt across alabama. the system will remain far too east. anybody who lives in hurricane-impacted areas gets on edge during the season, and then when you hear one is coming and you see it on the national news, you worry is it coming my way. alabama? no. >> and then he defended and doubled down on that even after it was proven that it wasn't true. look, i think the bottom line here is pretty much this. if the government is fully prepared, if fema is in the right place, if dhs is in the right place, if the local governments and municipalities are getting what they need from the federal government, then it's all a wash. everybody says, okay, fine. do whatever you need to do if that's on a golf course or anything else. i think the concern as it has long been and we saw it play out in 2017 during the hurricanes that hit then is that this lax -- this seeming lax approach from the president extends down the government, a government that is right now acting officials are pervasive, they're not totally sure who's running what at what position. i think you combine saying a place is not going to be hit by a hurricane might be hit by the hurricane, you combine playing golf and all those things. if something goes wrong, this becomes particularly bad because all people need to do is point to the president's twitter account or point to the president on the golf course. if everything goes right, if the administration is in the right place, if it's giving what it needs to give to make sure people are helped, people are safe, then i'm not totally sure it matters at all in the end. >> don't forget also the transfer of funds from fema to dhs while the hurricane was at puerto rico's doorstep, so all of these things combined. again, it raises a lot of condemnation from his critics about it. >> what are the optics, what is happening and then the idea that just -- well, should a president be out golfing when there's a hurricane coming i guess is another question but we'll watch this as it plays out and let's hope to your point that it stays out and the united states is not severely impacted. up next for us, an update on hurricane dorian's path. the weather is already ugly in florida. an interview with that state's senator, rick scott, coming up. stay with us. s? methinks tul pens would serve m'lady well. thanks. and a unicorn notebook! get 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continuing to move to the north. right along the coast of florida and even georgia, south carolina and north carolina with time, they'll all be dealing with this throughout the entire week. >> reporter: chad myers was telling us it is now a category 2 hurricane. what are the chances of it strengthening as it moves out over the open water? >> i think at this point we're looking at kind of keeping that strength, maybe even coming down a little bit. but here's the biggest point i really want to make. we focus a lot on the winds right in the center. in this case even if those winds come down, the entire wind field has expanded. in fact we're starting to see tropical storm force winds. over the last couple of days we've talked about 100 miles, 120 miles away from the center, now 175 miles, especially on the north end. so we're seeing the wind field expand. even if the winds are lower in the center, the impacts could b >> reporter: and we're beginning to feel the winds pick up here as time goes on. ken graham, director of the national hurricane center, again, thank you for being with us. we look forward to speaking to you over the next day. so joining me now by phone is florida senator rick scott. senator scott, thank you very much for joining us. let me tell you what i'm hearing from the people in your state. they're saying we've been watching this for days. where is hurricane dorian? do we have to continue to be so careful? what's your message to them? >> well, it has to be frustrating. it has to be frustrating if you've evacuated, done the right thing. it has to be frustrating if you get ready, your kids are out of school. you might have gone to a shelter. yeah, you have to be extremely frustrated with how slow this is. i think the national hurricane center and ken graham are doing the best they can with the information they have. these storms have a mind of their own and we still have to be careful because this thing could turn west and hit us. even if it doesn't, we're going to get rain, we're going to get storm surge. people don't realize that storm surge is deadly. 4 to 7 feet of storm surge, you know, we're still going to get significant winds and possible tornados, so, look, my heart goes out to everybody, especially right now everybody in the bahamas. >> reporter: right. >> that first child, the 7 or 8-year-old little boy died, i had a grandson that age. i can't imagine life without him. you know there's going to be so much death and destruction there. you just hope it never happens anywhere in the united states. >> reporter: you were talking about the storm surge. yes, two things. number one, our heart does go out to everyone in the bahamas right now as we are getting more information and more video back to understand the scope of the damage. number two, on the storm surge i can see it right where i am. they're expecting another 2 feet or so here by jensen beach, which will mean the area i am is flooded. that will be the case fully up the coast. people need to remain vigilant. so what's your message to the people on the coast here this morning? >> i think they need to follow the news, follow what you're doing. i think you're doing a real service to people to keep them informed in the manner that they can stay safe. and then when -- this is going to pass at some point. hopefully it won't be a direct hit to florida. but understand there's going to be rain, there's probably going to be flooding. you know, the storm surge will have impact. so be careful, and be careful afterwards. we have a good chance people will lose power for a period of time, so get ready. get your water, get your food, get your medicine, get ready for that. afterwards, be careful. if you don't know how to use a generation, go someplace and ask them. don't run a thing in your house. be careful with these chain saws. and in the meantime, remember, you are responsible not only for your family but you're responsible for any pets. and then take care of anybody around you that you know might need a little bit of help, either before or after this storm. let's all take care of each other. i'm really worried about the pets. if we lose power and they're stuck in the heat. >> reporter: senator rick scott, as you were saying, everyone has got to take care of each other these next few days. the threat is not over yet. in fact the threat will grow over the next 24 hours on most of the florida coast. you can see the storm surge picking up now. the water is definitely getting higher. our thank you to senator rick scott of florida. john, i'm going to go back to you in washington. >> we'll be back to you in a bit. i think the point about the slow-moving storm, you made it earlier, senator scott made it there, people tend to get complacent. a day passes and it looks the same and they think, i'm okay. that's the worry, i think, as we go forward. we'll get back to john a little later. up next, mitch mcconnell says, hey, he'd be happy to bring a gun 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2020 presidential candidate wants to phase out fossil fuels to achieve a 100% carbon neutral economy in the united states in the next 12 years. senator booker says it would create millions of new jobs. the senator majority leader mitch mcconnell says it's up to president trump yet again as to whether senate republicans would take up any new gun legislation. that of course in the wake of another mass shooting. >> the administration is in the process of studying what they're prepared to support, if anything, and i expect to get an answer to that next week. if the president is in favor of a number of things that he has discussed openly and publicly and i know that if we pass it, it will become law, i'll put it on the floor. and across the atlantic, battle lines being drawn over brexit. the british parliament back from its summer break with a showdown with the new prime minister, boris johnson. johnson vowing to take britain out eu next month with or without a deal. there's growing talk of a new possible general election. nic robertson joins us from 10 downing. nic, a tumultuous day. where are we headed here? >> reporter: john, you've got that right. tumultuous, robust conversations i think is how boris johnson would describe how he was treated at parliament. yes, we seem to be headed towards a general election. i'd love to tell you how the country is going to get there. it is impossible at this moment, the machinations inside parliament only grow more complex by the day and the week. boris johnson came into parliament today and tried to persuade parliamentarians why they shouldn't block his no-deal brexit, which is the legislation that parliament looks like is going to pass this evening that would demand he either get a deal in brussels or he ask parliament for permission to leave without a deal. if he fails on either of those, then he must seek a three-month extension, meaning britain would leave the european union by the end of january next year. but that's not the 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>> yes, and good afternoon, john. we have been thrilled from a public safety standpoint with just how cooperative the martin county residents have been. without their cooperation, without them following the evacuation orders and doing what we've asked, we could get in trouble fast. right now we feel extremely comfortable with what we're seeing. >> reporter: comfortable but not complacent which is i think the message you're sending. i can see hutchinson island, parts of it are under an evacuation order now. what is your message to people who have chosen to stay in the places they have been told not to? >> well, i think that it's a two-edged sword. they gamble. it looks like they won. it looks like the majority of that storm's wrath will spare us. but what they have done is they have a paradigm in their head that they don't have to listen to us. this storm, i feel like it's been the grim reaper, it's been in my driveway and is just now getting ready to leave. i would tell them you won this time. >> reporter: we're standing right next to a bridge. these bridges will not remain open if the wind speeds get to a certain point and i think they're expected through the night to reach a point where you won't want people on them. what do you want drivers to know? >> well, we have -- you probably saw them, john, we have sheriff's deputies at the entranceways from the mainland onto the barrier islands and are only allowing residents who have to go over there to go. the water has been turned on so some of the residents will probably risk going back over, but we have to be careful and make sure that people feel like they still have their rights and we're instituting martial law. >> reporter: all right, sheriff william snyder, martin county, thank you for being with us. thank you for the work that you've been doing here, we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. god bless, bye-bye. >> reporter: the message there, confident but not comcomplacent. so many officials at the city, state and federal level, they don't want people to take things easy at this point because the worst is still to come. it may not be as bad as they thought it would be, but it will be bad enough that it will be dangerous. >> the sheriff said he's worried and there is this boy who cried wolf mentality. people say they warned me to get out and it wasn't so bad. maybe you got lucky this time, but there will be an again. >> reporter: you know, it's interesting, we heard from senator, former governor, rick scott a short time ago. he knows that you risk telling people that they need to leave just so many times before they stop listening to you but he also knows if you don't send that message, there will be people who die from these storms who don't leave the areas they should. so the public officials are out here every time telling people, please, please listen to us. >> and that's excellent advice. much better to be safe in situations like this. john berman, appreciate it. up next for us here, some politics. the democratic front-runner, joe biden, struggling with revisionist history, again. ♪ ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers now starting at $7.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood you'when you barely the clip a passing car. now starting at $7.99. minor accident -no big deal, right? 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>> what biden is trying to argue is he doesn't believe that he was intentionally misleading anyone with the details of the war story. his argument is that though he may mangle some of the details, that's not going to affect the way or his ability to serve as president. what his campaign right now is banking on is the fact that so far these mistakes or so-called gaffes haven't really stuck with voters and they think that's because people know who joe biden is and they know his long history, but i think we're going to see over the course of time how exactly this will play out and whether voters are going to be impacted by it. >> it's a key point you make because we live in the age of trump. many of us in our business need to realize many of theapply. at least they didn't in 2016. joe biden is explaining back in the day as a united states senator he voted in favor of authorizing military force in iraq. this is now how he explains it. >> i got a commitment from president bush he was not going to go to war in iraq. he looked me in the eye in the oval office and said he needed the vote to be able to get inspectors in, into iraq to determine whether or not saddam hussein was engaged in dealing with a nuclear program. he got them in and before you know it, we had shock and awe. immediately, the moment it started, i came out against the war at that moment. >> immediately at the moment that it started, i came out against the war. no, he did not. no, he did not, and not for some time. in 2005 he acknowledged his vote was a mistake, so a lot quicker than a lot of other democrats, but not immediately, not even close. >> it's some revisionist history for sure there. the question about joe biden is what do voters decide is most important to them in this election. joe biden has a deep reservoir of good will in the democratic party that's mostly built up during the eight years that he was vice president, that really did change the public's perception of joe biden. do they care about that? do they care about a lot of experience, a long record, even if some of the details within that record maybe are being revised to this point. or do they look at him and say as a lot of voters i think we've talked to or are examining right now, what would he be like against donald trump? one of the things i have started to hear quietly and it will be interesting to see if other candidates make this point, democrats want to go after trump and say you use your words irresponsibly. you are misstating facts. you are lying in a lot of cases. can joe biden, even if the things he is saying are on a different plane than what trump often says, can he credibly make that argument if there are so many questions about his own rhetoric. >> i think this is the thing you hear from campaigns competing against him is just wait. people haven't fully tuned in yet. at some point people are going to tune in. it's one of the things where the biden campaign is right, it hasn't had an impact right a bed and talked to voters. i haven't talked to a lot of people that are raising major concern about it. that's the case until it isn't anymore. i think what you hear from other campaigns is once people start tuning in and once there's any type of small puncture into the inevitability, the electability, all of the cases that he continually makes, which based on the numbers are 100% true at this point in time, that's when everything will change, that's when the bottom will fall out and other people will rise. that is a calculation they are making. it may not be true at all and biden retains this lead throughout caucuses and campaigns, but that's what campaigns are waiting for and the big question is will it ever happen. >> will it ever happen because we could run together a list of perceived gaffes. they say it's a media narrative, not a voter narrative. but national polling especially, not so much state polling, but he is in the driver's seat or a strong position in the race. >> he is in a strong position but at the same time it's still early on and a lot of his democratic competitors will make comparisons between him and trump like julie was saying. how can you trust him? if he fit to be president? these are a lot of things a lot of people will go after him and say he doesn't have a clear understanding of certain issues and we'll be a better fit. maybe go with someone younger, something like that. a lot of his competitors will use that to his advantage. >> you were on a call today where his campaign officials were saying we expect this to be a long march. that doesn't sound like a confident front-runner. >> well, the campaign, senior campaign aides were saying that they don't see iowa as a must-win state. that they acknowledge it's going to be a dogfight as well as new hampshire. a few days ago iowa and new hampshire if you don't win could change the dynamics of the race. but the campaign said they are preparing for a long call. they see this could extend beyond super tuesday. they don't think it should necessarily be decided by those first four states and they don't see the other competitors, like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, dropping out and neither should biden is what they argue. >> thanks for joining us today on "inside politics." our coverage continues with brianna keilar right now. have a great afternoon. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. victor black well is in jensen beach, florida, for our special coverage of hurricane dorian. he's going to give us a closer look at the storm in just a moment. underway right now, dorian is a strong category 2 storm moving closer to the florida coast but at a crawl and that means it's causing even greater damage to the bahamas, which is still getting pounded two days after the storm first made landfall there as a cat 5. here are some of the pictures that we're getting from there, people trying to escape the rising waters. the u.s. coast guard is now helping with the

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>> the wind is still howling and some areas the water is rising, in some areas it's going down. we need wheelchairs, hospital beds, walkers. we were just in a lot of problem right now. >> here's the simulation from the national hurricane center. dorian literally, literally inching to the northwest. you could walk faster than this storm. on the ground much of grand bahama island under water, homes battered by wind and rain, then swamped with the storm surge. the red cross says about 13,000 homes there have been destroyed. >> oh, my god. >> you heard it there, oh, my god one woman saying as he walks around her devastated home. she went on to say everything is ruined. they medevaced 19 people out of that community and they're out trying and hoping to find people still trapped in their homes. dorian's effect already being felt on the shores of fse beach. john, tell us what you've been seeing and how the progression is going. >> reporter: it's been like this for 36 straight hours, john, which is to say near tropical storm force winds, waves that have been kicking up like this. periodically we get the outer bands of hurricane dorian passing over us. we expect it to strengthen but just as it's crawling over the bahamas, it is crawling past the florida coast, inching its way up to the carolinas. people here have been bracing for this for days now. the worst of it, believe it or not, is still to come. it won't be until much later today that people in florida really start to begin to feel the impact of some of this. they have been watching the coast 100 miles that way where the storm is very closely and watching the forecast very closely. let's go to chad myers in the weather center for the very latest on that. chad? >> john, we're still 110 miles per hour moving northwest at 2. now, when i woke up this morning it was stationary, then it went to 1 mile per hour and now it's 2, so very, very slowly inching to the north. we're still getting onshore winds from ft. pierce to palm bay all the way to daytona. the eye is still over the bahamas. the eye is about 50 miles wide right now. it will move up toward the north and make a close approach to the carolina coast, either south carolina or north carolina as a 100-mile-per-hour storm. we'll have to watch that. what we're going to watch for here are the winds onshore. you say every time that outer band comes by, the wind picks up. ft. pierce 39, melbourne 39, up at a buoy it was 54, a gust from last hour. hurricane warnings are posted all the way from florida to savannah at this hour and even farther to the north around charleston as well. 10 to 15-foot storm surge. it is going down now across the bahamas but that's at least where we were. the airport was under five feet of water. it was 6 or 7.5 feet above water when it started and so that's 12 feet at least. why did the storm finally stop? why did it not keep going like it was? well, it came out here from not that far from puerto rico, back up here around this high and then it got to here and there was nothing pushing it. it was between two high pressures. there was no wind like this, there was no wind like this, it was just stuck in the middle of nothing. stuck in the middle of nowhere, so it had no push to get out of the way. it just stopped for 36 hours right over the bahamas. we're probably still going to see 4 to 6 inches of rain, maybe 10 inches across parts of the carolinas, but the storm right now has a chance to get stronger. again, i hope it doesn't, but now it's back or will be back into the gulf stream. for a long time today it was over the same water for 36 hours. it used up that heat. it used up the warm water and there was no more warm water left, but now that it's moving, we'll have to keep watching it. hurricane hunters are out there looking for it, men and women putting their lives in harm's way for us. john. >> reporter: chad myers, thank you very much for that forecast. one thing chad said was chilling. the ragged eye wall still, still over freeport in the bahamas. it has been there for days. our patrick oppmann and his team have been riding out the storm there. i don't think they have slept in two full nights. communications have been coming and going as they can. patrick and his team have been sending us updates. they filed this just moments ago. >> reporter: here in grand bahama, the winds have died down somewhat, but the devastating damage and weather conditions still make it very difficult to venture out and get a sense of how bad things are. we have heard reports of the hospital here being flooded, of an animal shelter being basically completely under water, of people who have lost their homes and have basically had to escape with nothing but the clothes on their back. late last night a group of people near the building where we're staying just showed up completely soaking wet. they were carrying a woman who had fallen and had broken her hip. many of the people were carrying their pets. some were very distraught that they had to leave their pets behind in homes that had very quickly flooded. they told us how just in the matter of hours the water began quickly rising in their homes. by the time they got their belongings togetr was so high td not open the doors of their homes. some people had to break their roofs to climb out of their homes. and the sense here is that things have completely broken down. cell phone service is spotty at best. electricity is out. many people have run out of food and fresh water. so it is a dire situation. but until the airport opens here, until the government is able to bring in boats with resources and sliupplies, it's t clear how the situation can improve or when there can be a wide-scale search and rescue effort. so for the moment even as the weather slowly clears, people here in this part of the bahamas are still very much on their own. patrick oppmann, freeport, the bahamas. >> reporter: and our thanks to patrick oppmann and his team for that. what they have been experiencing is nearly beyond belief. the entire coast of florida has been gazing with this wary, watchful eye out toward the sea and the bahamas with the knowledge that hurricane dorian is inching closer to florida. there is still several counties with hurricane warnings here which means they expect hurricane conditions, still counties with mandatory evacuation orders. i want to go to cnn's brian todd who's in sewell point, florida, to get a sense of how things are there. brian. >> reporter: right, john. this scene right here is the reason why people, officials from this area up to jacksonville are telling citizens not to let down their guard, do not return from evacuation because of the storm surge. this area right here, this jetty out of sewall's point, we just talked to a local police officer. he said normally this is three or four feet below what you're seeing now. this is very high storm surge. he said you can usually walk down to the beach and we're just getting sprayed as the storm comes this way. a lot of the outer bands are hitting us intermittently but they're often very strong surges when they hit like this. we're going to get some rain here soon. this area over here, that's sewall's point, the town of sewall's point. about 75% of that town has evacuated according to the local police chief. but you can see this is the indian river lagoon and how low it is to some of these houses. we've already seen some flooded roads and they are telling people do not come back to your homes yet, do not come back from evacuation. this is one of the evacuation routes. this is the stewart causeway that goes over to hutchinson island over there. that's a barrier island. they're also under mandatory evacuation orders. people telling them if you're hunkered down, stay hunkered down, do not come out. the worry is people will get complacent or overconfident and think a lot of the storm has passed north. they'll come out and venture into this stuff and they say it's too dangerous, john. that place could also be cut off. jupiter island, they cannot get to these people when the storm hits its height in the next several hours and won't be able to get to them afterward either. so the people who elected to not leave these barrier islands, could be cut off for a couple of days, john. >> reporter: that's right. people need to be patient because the worst is yet to come in florida. certainly not going to be as bad as the bahamas but will create conditions that are very dangerous. much more of cnn's special coverage of hurricane dorian right after this. at t-mobile, what can you get when you a buy a samsung galaxy note 10? you get unlimited data while on a network that goes further than ever before. use as much as you want. when you want. a netflix subscription on us. stream all your favorite movies and shows. and for a limited time. buy any samsung galaxy note 10 and get one samsung galaxy note 10 for free. that's right. get one samsung galaxy note 10 for free. eh, not enough fiber... chocolate would be good... snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. glucerna. everyday progress welcome back. john berman in jensen beach, florida. this is cnn's special live coverage of hurricane dorian. the storm has turned northward slightly, beginning its long, slow march up the florida coast. conditions here should get worse very slowly over the next 12 to 20 hours. in the meantime let's go back to john king in washington. john. >> john, we'll be back to you momentarily. the slowly part is important as we watch the path of the storm. as we watch from here in washington, president trump has been attendive to the hurricane. on twitter tweeting and retweeting updates including from the national oceanic administration with regularity but that attention doesn't extend to the exact details or the president's offline activities. the president played golf yesterday, provoking considerable backlash and accutoday the president defendi himself saying the round of golf was very fast in his words and telling one of his critics, london's mayor, maybe he should pay attention to his own city's problems. the white house insists the president received realtime updates about dorian, including when he was out on the golf course. the president of course is entitled to spend his labor day holiday however he wishes. but remember, the president, this president, once felt very differently about golfing while president. >> obama ought to get off the golf course and get down there. i'm going to be working for you. i'm not going to have time to go play golf. he played more golf last year than tiger woods. but if i were in the white house, i don't think i'd ever see turnberry again. i don't think i'd see doral again. i'm not going to be playing much golf, believe me, if i win this, i'm not going to be playing much golf. >> here with me, julie pace, phil mattingly, vivian solano. there's clearly hypocrisy of the obama reference, which we could just set that aside in the sense that there are a lot of things this president said as a candidate, especially about obama, that we can attribute if you want to just a politician saying things. so there's the hypocrisy. the other question to me more is the empathy factor. yes, the storm was hitting the bahamas yesterday, not really the united states yet. but i can't find the words for it. but has he rewritten all the rules, all the norms? >> the empathy question is something this president has struggled with in a lot of different situations, but certainly when it comes to natural disasters that are barreling down or poised to barrel down on parts of this country, it just doesn't come naturally to him. in some ways he doesn't really try. i do think as president of the united states, yes, he's not going to be down there actually sandbagging anybody's home or building, and he has other departments that are overseeing other parts of the storm management. but ultimately he is in charge. what the federal government does, the response of the federal government to these types of situations ultimately rests on him. and so other presidents have just been a little bit better about the optics around them, understanding that eventually the questions if something does go wrong land on their desk. >> bear in mind he was supposed to be going to poland to begin with and he cancelled that trip in the name of monitoring this hurricane and the very next day he went and played golf. like julie says a lot of it was optics more than anything else. whether or not he was receiving constant updates or not, he may have been at the golf course but it's not a good look at a time of crisis when a lot of americans are evacuating their homes and things like that. they wanted a little more from the president in terms of empathy. >> not a good look. and this is a president who expresses self-confidence. he always says i'm smarter than the generals. now apparently he's also smarter than the forecasters. the president saying this on sunday in a tweet. in addition to florida, south carolina, north carolina, georgia and alabama will most likely be hit much harder than anticipated. looking like one of the largest hurricanes ever. already category 5. be careful. god bless everyone. the national weather service in addition to local meteorologists in alabama then feeling compelled, this from the national weather service, alabama will not see any impacts from dorian. we repeat, no impacts from hurricane dorian will be felt across alabama. the system will remain far too east. anybody who lives in hurricane-impacted areas gets on edge during the season, and then when you hear one is coming and you see it on the national news, you worry is it coming my way. alabama? no. >> and then he defended and doubled down on that even after it was proven that it wasn't true. look, i think the bottom line here is pretty much this. if the government is fully prepared, if fema is in the right place, if dhs is in the right place, if the local governments and municipalities are getting what they need from the federal government, then it's all a wash. everybody says, okay, fine. do whatever you need to do if that's on a golf course or anything else. i think the concern as it has long been and we saw it play out in 2017 during the hurricanes that hit then is that this lax -- this seeming lax approach from the president extends down the government, a government that is right now acting officials are pervasive, they're not totally sure who's running what at what position. i think you combine saying a place is not going to be hit by a hurricane might be hit by the hurricane, you combine playing golf and all those things. if something goes wrong, this becomes particularly bad because all people need to do is point to the president's twitter account or point to the president on the golf course. if everything goes right, if the administration is in the right place, if it's giving what it needs to give to make sure people are helped, people are safe, then i'm not totally sure it matters at all in the end. >> don't forget also the transfer of funds from fema to dhs while the hurricane was at puerto rico's doorstep, so all of these things combined. again, it raises a lot of condemnation from his critics about it. >> what are the optics, what is happening and then the idea that just -- well, should a president be out golfing when there's a hurricane coming i guess is another question but we'll watch this as it plays out and let's hope to your point that it stays out and the united states is not severely impacted. up next for us, an update on hurricane dorian's path. the weather is already ugly in florida. an interview with that state's senator, rick scott, coming up. stay with us. s? methinks tul pens would serve m'lady well. thanks. and a unicorn notebook! get 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continuing to move to the north. right along the coast of florida and even georgia, south carolina and north carolina with time, they'll all be dealing with this throughout the entire week. >> reporter: chad myers was telling us it is now a category 2 hurricane. what are the chances of it strengthening as it moves out over the open water? >> i think at this point we're looking at kind of keeping that strength, maybe even coming down a little bit. but here's the biggest point i really want to make. we focus a lot on the winds right in the center. in this case even if those winds come down, the entire wind field has expanded. in fact we're starting to see tropical storm force winds. over the last couple of days we've talked about 100 miles, 120 miles away from the center, now 175 miles, especially on the north end. so we're seeing the wind field expand. even if the winds are lower in the center, the impacts could b >> reporter: and we're beginning to feel the winds pick up here as time goes on. ken graham, director of the national hurricane center, again, thank you for being with us. we look forward to speaking to you over the next day. so joining me now by phone is florida senator rick scott. senator scott, thank you very much for joining us. let me tell you what i'm hearing from the people in your state. they're saying we've been watching this for days. where is hurricane dorian? do we have to continue to be so careful? what's your message to them? >> well, it has to be frustrating. it has to be frustrating if you've evacuated, done the right thing. it has to be frustrating if you get ready, your kids are out of school. you might have gone to a shelter. yeah, you have to be extremely frustrated with how slow this is. i think the national hurricane center and ken graham are doing the best they can with the information they have. these storms have a mind of their own and we still have to be careful because this thing could turn west and hit us. even if it doesn't, we're going to get rain, we're going to get storm surge. people don't realize that storm surge is deadly. 4 to 7 feet of storm surge, you know, we're still going to get significant winds and possible tornados, so, look, my heart goes out to everybody, especially right now everybody in the bahamas. >> reporter: right. >> that first child, the 7 or 8-year-old little boy died, i had a grandson that age. i can't imagine life without him. you know there's going to be so much death and destruction there. you just hope it never happens anywhere in the united states. >> reporter: you were talking about the storm surge. yes, two things. number one, our heart does go out to everyone in the bahamas right now as we are getting more information and more video back to understand the scope of the damage. number two, on the storm surge i can see it right where i am. they're expecting another 2 feet or so here by jensen beach, which will mean the area i am is flooded. that will be the case fully up the coast. people need to remain vigilant. so what's your message to the people on the coast here this morning? >> i think they need to follow the news, follow what you're doing. i think you're doing a real service to people to keep them informed in the manner that they can stay safe. and then when -- this is going to pass at some point. hopefully it won't be a direct hit to florida. but understand there's going to be rain, there's probably going to be flooding. you know, the storm surge will have impact. so be careful, and be careful afterwards. we have a good chance people will lose power for a period of time, so get ready. get your water, get your food, get your medicine, get ready for that. afterwards, be careful. if you don't know how to use a generation, go someplace and ask them. don't run a thing in your house. be careful with these chain saws. and in the meantime, remember, you are responsible not only for your family but you're responsible for any pets. and then take care of anybody around you that you know might need a little bit of help, either before or after this storm. let's all take care of each other. i'm really worried about the pets. if we lose power and they're stuck in the heat. >> reporter: senator rick scott, as you were saying, everyone has got to take care of each other these next few days. the threat is not over yet. in fact the threat will grow over the next 24 hours on most of the florida coast. you can see the storm surge picking up now. the water is definitely getting higher. our thank you to senator rick scott of florida. john, i'm going to go back to you in washington. >> we'll be back to you in a bit. i think the point about the slow-moving storm, you made it earlier, senator scott made it there, people tend to get complacent. a day passes and it looks the same and they think, i'm okay. that's the worry, i think, as we go forward. we'll get back to john a little later. up next, mitch mcconnell says, hey, he'd be happy to bring a gun 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a new possible general election. nic robertson joins us from 10 downing. nic, a tumultuous day. where are we headed here? >> reporter: john, you've got that right. tumultuous, robust conversations i think is how boris johnson would describe how he was treated at parliament. yes, we seem to be headed towards a general election. i'd love to tell you how the country is going to get there. it is impossible at this moment, the machinations inside parliament only grow more complex by the day and the week. boris johnson came into parliament today and tried to persuade parliamentarians why they shouldn't block his no-deal brexit, which is the legislation that parliament looks like is going to pass this evening that would demand he either get a deal in brussels or he ask parliament for permission to leave without a deal. if he fails on either of those, then he must seek a three-month extension, meaning britain would leave the european union by the end of january next year. but that's not the direction that we seem to be headed in. boris johnson was defending his negotiating, saying that he was making progress and time after time mps in parliament, some in his own party, challenged him on the veracity of that statement that he's making progress in negotiations, challenged him to show the evidence and put forward the proposals that he's giving the european union to unblock the current impasse. he didn't do that. what he was asked very clearly is if a law is passed demanding you get an extension, will you observe that law? he indicated he would. but what he made very clear was if that law was passed, he could no longer negotiate with the eu and that's the signal that a general election is coming soon. probably before the end of october. >> that's fascinating. more questions than answers. nic robertson live at 10 downing, appreciate the reporting. we'll keep in touch. this special programming note. join cnn and 10, 10 2020 hopefuls for an unprecedented democratic town hall 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>> yes, and good afternoon, john. we have been thrilled from a public safety standpoint with just how cooperative the martin county residents have been. without their cooperation, without them following the evacuation orders and doing what we've asked, we could get in trouble fast. right now we feel extremely comfortable with what we're seeing. >> reporter: comfortable but not complacent which is i think the message you're sending. i can see hutchinson island, parts of it are under an evacuation order now. what is your message to people who have chosen to stay in the places they have been told not to? >> well, i think that it's a two-edged sword. they gamble. it looks like they won. it looks like the majority of that storm's wrath will spare us. but what they have done is they have a paradigm in their head that they don't have to listen to us. this storm, i feel like it's been the grim reaper, it's been in my driveway and is just now getting ready to leave. i would tell them you won this time. >> reporter: we're standing right next to a bridge. these bridges will not remain open if the wind speeds get to a certain point and i think they're expected through the night to reach a point where you won't want people on them. what do you want drivers to know? >> well, we have -- you probably saw them, john, we have sheriff's deputies at the entranceways from the mainland onto the barrier islands and are only allowing residents who have to go over there to go. the water has been turned on so some of the residents will probably risk going back over, but we have to be careful and make sure that people feel like they still have their rights and we're instituting martial law. >> reporter: all right, sheriff william snyder, martin county, thank you for being with us. thank you for the work that you've been doing here, we really appreciate it. >> you're welcome. god bless, bye-bye. >> reporter: the message there, confident but not comcomplacent. so many officials at the city, state and federal level, they don't want people to take things easy at this point because the worst is still to come. it may not be as bad as they thought it would be, but it will be bad enough that it will be dangerous. >> the sheriff said he's worried and there is this boy who cried wolf mentality. people say they warned me to get out and it wasn't so bad. maybe you got lucky this time, but there will be an again. >> reporter: you know, it's interesting, we heard from senator, former governor, rick scott a short time ago. he knows that you risk telling people that they need to leave just so many times before they stop listening to you but he also knows if you don't send that message, there will be people who die from these storms who don't leave the areas they should. so the public officials are out here every time telling people, please, please listen to us. >> and that's excellent advice. much better to be safe in situations like this. john berman, appreciate it. up next for us here, some politics. the democratic front-runner, joe biden, struggling with revisionist history, again. ♪ ♪ applebee's handcrafted burgers now starting at $7.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood you'when you barely the clip a passing car. now starting at $7.99. minor accident -no big deal, right? 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>> what biden is trying to argue is he doesn't believe that he was intentionally misleading anyone with the details of the war story. his argument is that though he may mangle some of the details, that's not going to affect the way or his ability to serve as president. what his campaign right now is banking on is the fact that so far these mistakes or so-called gaffes haven't really stuck with voters and they think that's because people know who joe biden is and they know his long history, but i think we're going to see over the course of time how exactly this will play out and whether voters are going to be impacted by it. >> it's a key point you make because we live in the age of trump. many of us in our business need to realize many of theapply. at least they didn't in 2016. joe biden is explaining back in the day as a united states senator he voted in favor of authorizing military force in iraq. this is now how he explains it. >> i got a commitment from president bush he was not going to go to war in iraq. he looked me in the eye in the oval office and said he needed the vote to be able to get inspectors in, into iraq to determine whether or not saddam hussein was engaged in dealing with a nuclear program. he got them in and before you know it, we had shock and awe. immediately, the moment it started, i came out against the war at that moment. >> immediately at the moment that it started, i came out against the war. no, he did not. no, he did not, and not for some time. in 2005 he acknowledged his vote was a mistake, so a lot quicker than a lot of other democrats, but not immediately, not even close. >> it's some revisionist history for sure there. the question about joe biden is what do voters decide is most important to them in this election. joe biden has a deep reservoir of good will in the democratic party that's mostly built up during the eight years that he was vice president, that really did change the public's perception of joe biden. do they care about that? do they care about a lot of experience, a long record, even if some of the details within that record maybe are being revised to this point. or do they look at him and say as a lot of voters i think we've talked to or are examining right now, what would he be like against donald trump? one of the things i have started to hear quietly and it will be interesting to see if other candidates make this point, democrats want to go after trump and say you use your words irresponsibly. you are misstating facts. you are lying in a lot of cases. can joe biden, even if the things he is saying are on a different plane than what trump often says, can he credibly make that argument if there are so many questions about his own rhetoric. >> i think this is the thing you hear from campaigns competing against him is just wait. people haven't fully tuned in yet. at some point people are going to tune in. it's one of the things where the biden campaign is right, it hasn't had an impact right a bed and talked to voters. i haven't talked to a lot of people that are raising major concern about it. that's the case until it isn't anymore. i think what you hear from other campaigns is once people start tuning in and once there's any type of small puncture into the inevitability, the electability, all of the cases that he continually makes, which based on the numbers are 100% true at this point in time, that's when everything will change, that's when the bottom will fall out and other people will rise. that is a calculation they are making. it may not be true at all and biden retains this lead throughout caucuses and campaigns, but that's what campaigns are waiting for and the big question is will it ever happen. >> will it ever happen because we could run together a list of perceived gaffes. they say it's a media narrative, not a voter narrative. but national polling especially, not so much state polling, but he is in the driver's seat or a strong position in the race. >> he is in a strong position but at the same time it's still early on and a lot of his democratic competitors will make comparisons between him and trump like julie was saying. how can you trust him? if he fit to be president? these are a lot of things a lot of people will go after him and say he doesn't have a clear understanding of certain issues and we'll be a better fit. maybe go with someone younger, something like that. a lot of his competitors will use that to his advantage. >> you were on a call today where his campaign officials were saying we expect this to be a long march. that doesn't sound like a confident front-runner. >> well, the campaign, senior campaign aides were saying that they don't see iowa as a must-win state. that they acknowledge it's going to be a dogfight as well as new hampshire. a few days ago iowa and new hampshire if you don't win could change the dynamics of the race. but the campaign said they are preparing for a long call. they see this could extend beyond super tuesday. they don't think it should necessarily be decided by those first four states and they don't see the other competitors, like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, dropping out and neither should biden is what they argue. >> thanks for joining us today on "inside politics." our coverage continues with brianna keilar right now. have a great afternoon. i'm brianna keilar live from cnn's washington headquarters. victor black well is in jensen beach, florida, for our special coverage of hurricane dorian. he's going to give us a closer look at the storm in just a moment. underway right now, dorian is a strong category 2 storm moving closer to the florida coast but at a crawl and that means it's causing even greater damage to the bahamas, which is still getting pounded two days after the storm first made landfall there as a cat 5. here are some of the pictures that we're getting from there, people trying to escape the rising waters. the u.s. coast guard is now helping with the

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