Riddell would either take the test for the student or hand in answe a card with the answers on it. It would just be scored under that persons name. Was there anything that showed cheating was going on . Did any of the prompting of this investigation come from them . I cant comment on that. Two prominent names you mentioned, they were arrested along with others . Yes. Thats live in boston, massachusetts. Impressive news conference, big news. Involving celebrities, ceos, College Coaches in a massive scheme to gain the College Admissions system. Felicity huffman, and Lori Loughlin, the actress of full house and fuller house fame cheat, bribe and lie to get the children of the super rich into an elite university. Andrew lieling and the agent in charge, joseph bofal noronte. We have charged one exam administrator, one exam proctor, one college administrator, nine coaches at elite schools and 33 parents who paid enormous sums to guarantee their childrens admission to certain schools. This is not a case where parents were acting in the best interests of their children. This is a case where they flaunted their wealth, sparing no expense to cheat the system so they could set their children up for success with the best education money could buy, literally. Some spent anywhere from 200,000 to 6. 5 million for guaranteed admission. Their actions were without a doubt sinful and shameful. Wow, brynn. Reporter exactly, john. Howey lab r elaborate this sche according to officials is what rocks me most. The number of people involved and in some cases arrested, some have already pleaded guilty, but also how detailed these schemes were. Lets talk about the center of it all. His name is rick singer. According to authorities, hes already pled guilty to some charges. He would set up a nonprofit and parents would come to him to ask for his help to get into elite universities. Were talking about usc, georgetown, yale university. And he did it in two different ways. One route some parents would take was basically have their kids take s. A. T. S, a. C. T. Entrance exams and he would either have someone who was very smart, as authorities say, retake those tests changing some of those answers in order to get a higher score for those admission tests. In some cases they would have their daughter or son go to a therapist and get more time to take those entrance exams. That was one route. Another route, according to federal authorities, was rick singer would get in touch with athletic coaches at these universities and have students admitted through the athletic route, sometimes even faking pictures of these students as athletes and basically bribing these athletic coaches to help these students get in that route. I know two names that weve been talking about who were parents that have been arrested is Felicity Huffman, an academy actress, a nominee. Of course, we know her from did he say desperate housewives among other things, and Lori Loughlin from full house. They basically asked for singers help to take the test for their daughter and declined to have them do the same thing for their second daughter, and authorities arent sure why she changed her mind for the second time around. When you look at the charging documents for Lori Loughlin, they say they used singers help in order for her daughter to get into usc through crewe even though she had no talent with that sport. A lot of details just came out in that news conference, and its just mind blowing the amount of money pushed around, how many people were involved, the fact that even some of the children knew this was happening, some of the children dont. Some of these students are still in colleges. But important to note, john, according to these authorities, these universities that were involved had no knowledge of this but the investigation is still ongoing. Interesting the level of detail. Joining the conversation now, please dont follow me, kbryoua lot smarter than me when it comes to this, but lets start with you, jennifer. When you hear the level of detail from the fbi, the irs, obviously the ringleader they flipped at the top of the pyramid. What takeaway do you get here . Im impressed with the scope of this investigation. They did get rick singer to plead guilty so clearly he told them all about the scheme. That must be how they were able to wrap all of this up in just over a year, i think the u. S. Attorney said it took. Its an impressive scope. Hopefully these universities will be able to clean house. There are a lot of coaches here who im assuming will be fired. What the schools choose to do about the students will be up to them. Im sure theyll do their own investigations and decide how to proceed. Its an impressive investigation. I do hope that rick singer, if hes pleading guilty, didnt get a terrific deal out of this, a cooperation deal. Usually you wouldnt cooperate the head guy against people below him, so well have to wait and see when his documents are released whether its a Cooperation Agreement or just a plea agreement. But its certainly an impressive takedown. Its a great point about well see what the plea agreement is there. And paul, you heard the u. S. Attorney say they got a tip. They were interviewing a target in a completely different investigation who apparently was trying to give them something. This happens a lot of law enforcement. Im in trouble, let me give you something else. Your biggest takeaway. Include the decision to use the racketeering statute here. Its a fascinating use of the racketeering statute which is typically used against criminals. Thats what its designed for. The feds figured out a way to apply it to College Admissions. This is probably the biggest College Admissions scam in u. S. History. Its really kind of staggering in its dimensions. Its nationwide and involves some of the top schools in the united states, and its going down, by the way, at a time when harvard is being sued for the way they admit minorities to their colleges. Here we have, on the other hand, parents who are bribing their way in to some of americas top colleges. And its a very sophisticated scam that involved cheating on a. C. T. And s. A. T. Scores, the forgery of false athletic resumes to make it look like youre some sort of star athletically and deserve admission to an ivy league college. Its a fascinating use of the ricoh statute to solve a crime. And it will get a ton of attention because of the celebrities involved. Two wellknown actresses who were trying to help their children and go to the prosecutor of other levels. You have athletic coaches who were taking bribes. In some cases the coach put all the money into the program, but in most cases they kept either all of the money or put it in. As you go through the level of detail, what does it tell you, jennifer . I dont know how they put money into the program. These were illicit bribes going to the coaches so i dont know how they would put money into the program. One thing these colleges will have to think about, particularly those with strong athletic programs like ucla, usc and stanford, are the oversight they give to these coaches and what do they do once these students arrive and all of a sudden they claim an injury or theyre just not participating. There ought to be more oversight of these athletic admissions, because clearly this rick singer person was able to recruit coaches from all over the country. How do you do that . You cant just walk in or pick up the phone and say, hey, would you like to take some illegal bribes . The fact he was able to get so many participants at these top colleges really, i think, should be a wakeup call to these schools to keep a better eye on this process. And paul, help me a little bit what were talking about in terms of penalties. Again, im going to focus on the two known names. But if you go through parents here, a lot of rich, privileged parents, but Felicity Huffman and Lori Loughlin both charged with mail fraud and conspiracy for mail fraud. What are we looking at as far as punishment . For most all the parents involved, youre looking at a felony that could lead to five years in federal prison. This, of course, depends on what the federal guidelines are with respect to their involvement. But theyre all very, very serious felonies with very, very serious jail sentences, and theyve got a tough road ahead. Tough road ahead, to say the least. Paul callan, jennifer, thank you for being here. Nancy pelosi says no when it comes to the issue of impeachment. At least for now. 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When we see evidence of impeachable offenses, we need to start the process to remove the president from office. I dont think there is any way we could get 218 votes on the floor of the house for an impeachment resolution, but i think thats not a matter of whether, its a matter of when. Cnns manu raju live on capitol hill. The speaker inside this interview, im going to give you some news. She knew she was going to cause a buzz. She did, huh . Reporter she most definitely did, and congressman jerry nadler said he agrees with her, that impeachment doesnt make sense to move forward. Failed impeachment is just not a good idea. But there are rank and file democrats who hope her mind will change and hope to convince her. One democrat, rashida tlaib, said she still plans to push forward with impeachment and even offer articles of impeachment resolution later this month. Speaker pelosi has always encouraged me to represent my district. Has never told me to stop. Has never told me to do anything differently, ever. But youre going to continue to push for impeachment, right . I am beginning the investigation. That doesnt mean were voting on it. It means were beginning the process to look at some of these alleged claims that hes impeachable offenses. Pelosi very clearly wants to move on. She did not address this in a closed door meeting earlier this morning. She was asked by an opponent, why not review it before closing the door on impeachment . She said since day one ive said that impeachment is divisive. Well see if her mind will change, but at the moment throwing a lot of cold water on a push from the left. Trying to keep folks in line, i think we can say. Thank you, manu. To show their insights julie pace with the associated press, jackie kosinich and abby phil p phillip. Its not slamming the door shut, but boy, it sets a really high bar. Why . I think there are a couple things going on here. Pelosi has been pretty has been setting the high bar for impeachment the last couple months as she took a step forward here. She feels if democrats were to go down this road, the bar should be high, and i think thats quite reasonable. She doesnt want it to look like democrats are just trying to impeach the president because they dont like him, because theyre not happy with some of his policy moves, they dont think hes fit for office. There has to be some sort of evidence for a crime. I think shes trying to lay this out ahead of the Mueller Report to give an indication of what she would be willing to accept. The second piece of this is impeachment is divisive and there are democrats who actually dont think this would be good politics for their party in the leadup to a president ial election, that it would be better for their nominee to be able to run against President Trump as is instead of her mucking up that campaign with an impeachment process that might not succeed, anyway. And speaking of politics, this is not about yes, the progressives and the left part fortunate party a of the party are the ones who are pushing this. This is about the majority who dont want to talk about this, who want to talk about other things because theyre not there. They went there not to impeach the president but to get some stuff done. Thats what you hear people from blue dogs, for example, say. Theyre going to be asked this question, too, and now they can just say, well, Speaker Pelosi slammed the door on that. Lets move on. This is cherry busto. Shes from illinois. She just won a republican seat. Shes a democrat in the congress. Its conservative country. There are republican voters, too. She says, i dont want to go here. Im a democratic candidate that just won. We dont hear from people we represent talking about impeachment at every turn. Nancy pelosi wants to keep the majority. She needs to keep her people calm about how this is going. I dont think the timing is very accidental at all. Look at the last two weeks. You had investigations on the house side really get into gear, both with the 81 document requests that the House Judiciary Committee sent out and the Michael Cohen extravaganza in various stages, public and private. You see the political back and forth. Republicans are accusing schiff of being corrupt, and everything is already kind of a giant mess. If they want to be able to conduct these investigations and do it without being accused every 30 seconds of just trying to orchestrate a slow motion impeachment, pelosi has to come out and say thats not necessarily our end game at all. Were trying to do this based on the merits. So to protect that, she had to do this early on. Sdplz s she set the rules in the beginning of a very long, oversought battle. The battle is explicitly that democrats are trying to impeach the president , thats what this is all about, because they dont like him. Theyre not even dealing in large part on some of the merits of these investigations. Theyre not trying to dig into the details of what democrats are looking for. Theyre just saying democrats dont like trump and theyre trying to use these investigations to go after him. So pelosi sees that coming from the white house. Shes trying to get ahead of it actually, this is about oversight. For the next couple years what we want as democrats is to have another agenda going forward. It was interesting hearing cherry bustas expressing frustration that when Michael Cohen was on the hill last week, he sucked all the oxygen out of the room on capitol hill. They couldnt put attention on any other hearings they were trying to do at that time, and there is frustration that there is no alternative message that will break through as long as impeachment is swirling through the air. Pelosi has been long enough to have gone through the last impeachment. A democratic president was impeached for sexual behavior. And the payoffs, hush money payments by the president. Newt gingrich and Bob Livingston lost their job in the backlash after that. We just pulled in iowa. The democratic voters in iowa picked their next president. Do they want to talk about impeachment . No. Only 20 of iowa, impeachment voters, only 22 talk a lot about it. 92 of republicans say no. Even 27 of democrats say no. Nancy pelosi says i have to keep those democrats and i have to keep those republicans or i hand the gavel back over. And they know there is some space to talk about impeachment on the campaign trail, they can talk about all the bad things they think trump has done, but its actually not a bad split for her. She knows the second the house were to move on this, to abbys point, it blows out of the water every policy agenda they have. Its all gone, its just impeachment, and thats not a good situation for her party. 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