Welcome to inside politics. Im john king. To our viewers in the United States and around the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. It was a miserable week for President Trump. He could not close a deal with kim jongun and his longtime confidante called him a cheat and a liar whose crimes carried into his presidency. A twohourplus speech yesterday left no doubt about the president s mood. They fight so hard on this witch hunt, this phony deal that they put together, this phony thing that now looks like its dying so they dont have anything with russia. Theres no collusion, so now they go and morph into, lets inspect every deal hes ever done. Were going to go into his finances. Were going to check his deals. Were going to check these people are sick. Plus, that speech offered telling glimpses into just how the president thinks. Mocking the southern accent of his former attorney general. Repeating a nickname offensive to native americans and this, questioning immigrants in congress. We have people in congress that hate our country. We can name every one of them, if they want. Its very, very sad. Very, very and find out, how did they do in their country . Just ask them. How did they do . Did they do well . Were they succeeding . Just ask that question. Somebody would say, oh, thats terrible that he brings that up, but thats okay. I dont mind. Ill bring it up. How did they do . Their country . Not so good. And the big week for 2020 democrats includes a new candidate promising to make Climate Change the top issue and the first rally by a familiar face who promises this time will be different. My experience as a child living in a family that struggled economically, powerfully influenced my life and my values. I know where i came from. Unlike donald trump, who shut down the government and left 800,000 federal employees without income to pay their bill s. I know what its like to be in a family that lives paycheck to paycheck. With us this sunday, julie pace of the associated press, cnns Phil Mattingly, and lisa lerer of the New York Times. We begin with the president. The biggest source of his anger and the latest remarkable display of his rage. He hugged a flag as he walked on to the stage at cpac yesterday and then spoke for more than two hours. That he spoke that long is proof that he has a lot on his mind and that he knew it was a place where he wins applause even when what he says lacks taste, truth or tact. So now were waiting for a report, and well find out whether or not and who were dealing with. Were waiting for a report by people that werent elected. Unfortunately, you put the wrong people in a couple of positions, and they leave people for a long time that shouldnt be there. And all of a sudden, they are trying to take you out with [ bleep ], okay . With [ bleep ]. The report referenced there with choice language would be from special Counsel Robert Mueller who is said to be near the end of his investigation. The biggest lesson is mueller is hardlys president s only worry. Federal and state authorities in new york are investigating the president s business, his inaugural committee and chairman. And the new world order here in washington. Democrats are demanding white house documents said to show the president lied when he said he had no role in his soninlaws security clearance. A clearance granted over the objections of the cia and others. And democrats say a half dozen committees now have new threads to investigate because of the scathing daylong rebuke that was the testimony of longtime trump fixer and attorney Michael Cohen. Do you believe that the president committed a crime while in office . Based on what looking at the text and listening to mr. Cohen, it appears that he did. Lets start there with the president s mood. And he is incredibly transparent for all his critics, we know what he thinks. Twoplus hours. The longest speech of his presidency and a lot of grievances. A lot of grievances that i think were built up during this week because he was in vietnam for the summit with north korea. So he was on a different time zone, paying attention to what was going on, but this was his first chance to get this all off his chest. Look, the Mueller Report has hung over this white house for months. But they are now having to come to grips with the reality that once that is done, that doesnt end these legal questions around him. If anything, i think the Southern District investigations are his greater problem. It seems to more directly touch his business, his associates and potentially trump himself. That doesnt mean there wont be something in the Mueller Report that wont be damaging to him. We just dont know. Thats more of a political question probably for congress. But this is a president i think who is having to come to grips with the fact that the next two years of his presidency are going to continue to look probably even worse in terms of these legal questions than the first two. Think about all the different crimes Michael Cohen alleged the president engaged in. Bank fraud, insurance fraud, tax fraud, Campaign Finance violations and charity selfdealing. There are a number of areas where democrats can pull on those strings and decide how much they want to investigate. Even after Robert Mueller wrapped up his report and says whether or not there was russia collusion, theyll have democrats in Congress Spending months if not years, investigating all of those various areas, getting the president s tax returns which may provide more information about other things the president might have done as a businessman. So hes in for sort of a world of hurt when it comes to the democratic investigations. And what we saw yesterday was two hours of the president really venting knowing that theres nothing they can do. Subpoenas flying all over the place. Theyll ask for his most personal records and theres not really too much he can do. And knowing he was in a place he can twist facts, exaggerate some things, ignore other things. I find it remarkable that he focused so much on mueller as opposed to what most people think is the bigger threat. So is it that he makes mueller the repository of all of his ang ber investigations or does he know something we dont know about the Mueller Report because his attorneys are trying to keep in touch about that. To your point about Michael Cohen, why was the president so mad and so angry at the democrats in congress . Because the democrats say they got a lot of leads from this. Donald trump wrote you a check out of his personal account while he was serving as president of the United States of america to reimburse you for hush money payments . Yes, mr. Chairman. You had a conversation with the president of the United States about your impending testimony before the house Intelligence Committee. Is that correct . Thats correct. Who were the family members you briefed on the trump tower moscow project . Don trump jr. And ivanka trump. Did the president ever provide inflated assets to an Insurance Company . Yes. Is there any other wrongdoing or illegal act that you are aware of regarding donald trump . Yes, and again, those are part of the investigation thats currently being looked at by the Southern District of new york. And so the anger, rage we saw from the president , i guess quasi understandable. Not how he processed it, but the Southern District of new york, Michael Cohen says, is investigating things we dont know about. And democrats on capitol hill say that was a great Oversight Committee hearing meeting. Now well farm this out to five or six or seven other committees and youll all take a piece of that and have other investigations. This was the testimony that spawned a thousand other topics from potential tax evasions, his Trump Organization, to the president even to the president s alleged racism. I mean, this gave democrats plenty of fodder to work with. And its important to remember in these moments this is a president who feels very invested in personal relationships. And this is a betrayal of one of his most intimate personal relationships. This is not like some lowlevel guy at the Trump Organization getting up there. This is his personal lawyer, the guy who, as he points out, was doing his bidding for years and years and years by his side, up there laying out all the dirty laundry that he can lay out in front of congress and the country and we dont even know what he said in the private sessions. I would just one of the signs of a productive oversight hearing if you want to talk about waxman or dingel or go back through history is when you can see and know people are laying the groundwork for whats coming next. Its not necessarily fireworks or trying to get those headlines. There were plenty of them, but the most important points and questions asked were the questions that were leading to answers that are very clearly going to guide the investigations of the Oversight Committee, Financial Services xhrkts Intelligence CommitteeGoing Forward. What that means is tax returns, you can see it from alexandria ocasiocortez and several others, the push for democrats in the house to use the ways and Means Committee to get the president s tax returns. That was happening live for everybody to see during that hearing. The president s children, very much now in play because of some of the questions asked. Allen weisselberg, one of the most central and key people in the Trump Organization. His name came up several times. Elijah cummings made clear hes somebody the committee is thinking about talking to. That underscored the importance of the hearing. Michael cohens testimony was explosive, and any other time it would have been completely surreal. Today it was just wednesday. But i think thats the takeaway from he hearing. You recognize democrats, not every democrat was great or knew what they were doing, but there was clearly staff work behind the scenes to try and lay the groundwork for things to come and those will cause increasing problems for the white house. And separate from cohen because of New York Times reporting this week, the democrats want white house documents. The New York Times reported that both the white house chief of staff at the time and white House Counsel wrote memos because they did not like the process or result of the president s soninlaw, another family connection, getting a security clearance. Jared kushner got his clearance over the objection of the cia and other federal agencies. The president said he had nothing do with it. The New York Times flatly says if the memos from his top aides suggest otherwise. Congress is now demanding documents. They want to prove to the American People that this is a lie. You tell anyone in the white house to overrule Security Officials . No, i dont think i have the authority to do that. I wouldnt do it. I know there are issues back and forth about security for numerous people, actually. But i dont want to get involved in that stuff. The president had no involvement pertaining to my clearance or my husbands clearance. Not true. Not true. What the president says is not true, what his daughter says is not true. And now that the democrats have power, they are demanding that john kelly and don mcgahn wrote contemrainuous memos raising concerns about this. This opens up this new world for the president which maybe yesterdays speech was proof hes beginning to understand it. I dont know how you can read what he was saying there as anything other than a lie if it is true he did overrule. Its also amazing now we have another top trump official, john kelly, who was keeping contemrainuoconte contemporaneous notes. What else did john kelly see or what else does he have notes on . Democrats have been on this for a while. Theyve thought there was something fishy in Jared Kushners clearance process. Now the fact they believe they can link that directly to donald trump himself is going to make this probably a top priority, maybe top five among their investigations this year. Its a remarkable moment. Well come back to the president s speech and some of the political calculations later. No hanoi summit deal but praise for kim jongun that stuns the parents of an american killed just after leaving a north korean prison. And no artificial flavors. 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I dont believe that he would have allowed that to happen. Just wasnt to his advantage to allow that to happen. And i really dont believe that he was i dont believe he knew about it. He felt badly but knew the case well but he knew it later. He tells me he didnt know about it and ill take him at his word. Those remarks caused bipartisan gasps in congress and this from Otto Warmbiers parents. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for the death of our son otto. Kim and his evil regime are responsible for unimaginable cruelty and inhumanity. No excuses or lavish praise an change that. Thank you. Yesterday in a speech at cpac, the president praised the warmbier family but again did not blame kim. We got our great people back. We got our great, great people, and that includes our beautiful, beautiful otto. Otto warmbier whose parents ive gotten to know, who is incredible. And im in such a horrible position because in one way, i have to negotiate. In the other way, i love mr. And mrs. Warmbi er, and i love otto. And its a very, very delicate balance. He was a special young man, and to see what happened was so bad. How is he in a horrible position . Reagan negotiated with the soviets. He didnt say youre really nice people. I dont believe there are people in gulags, leave up that wall. Sometimes you have to call out tru truths. I think this lays bare one defining thing about this president which is we talked about with the cohen testimony. He ran his business for decades based on personal relationships. Oh, we want to buy a building. Well do a deal with this guy or this guy. Now thats how he views these negotiations. But, in fact, its not the same, right . Hes not cutting a deal with, you know, his pal kim jongun. Hes negotiating on behalf of the United States of america. Thats a very different thing and that does require this delicate balance between the personal dynamic that you may have with the leader and whats in the best interest of the entire country and the people who elected you to represent them. And thats a distinction weve seen get blurred. You can dodge the question. You cannot answer the question when the question comes up at your press conference but to stand there and say i dont think he knew about it, i dont think his top people knew about it, thats asinine. The relationship between the United States and saudis. Youve had president s of both parties who have meetings with saudi leaders and simply dont bring up human rights, try to ignore the question publicly. This president chose, multiple times as you showed there, to say he believes that kim jongun and the regime had nothing to do with this. That is a choice that he made. It goes beyond what other president s have done in terms of human rights, and youre right. This is something that angered republicans and democrats because it does seem to go against American Values that you couldnt just simply say, they were responsible for the death of an american. How does that disrupt these negotiations . How does that undermine Everything Else theyre discussing . Most feel it wouldnt but thats his choice he made. His choice and he continued again. This is in