News, analysis and interviews with politicians and observers. we'll hear less from him on tax cuts and republican policies that might refer -- >> it makes a difference depending on the brand of republican running, especially if they are an incumbent. desantis has been pro actsive aligning himself with trump. >> to put it mildly. >> so of course he's going to do that. >> on fox every night talking about it. >> he's going to be somebody that thinks this is a great, great boost. there are a lot of republicans that are squeamish about the thing the president says that don't line up what they are doing and saying. >> florida is a good experiment for this. i was covering the governor's race. this is a great experiment. look, i think in the general election, trump is more of a negative than he is a positive. i think he motivates democrats in a way they have not been motivated since barack obama came onto the national scene in 2008. but, in the primary, he can deliver nominations now -- >> as we've seen. >> desantis aligning himself with the president. he's on fox almost every night defending trump on the mueller investigation. what has that done for him? got trump's attention and trump endorsed him for governor and essentially end of the race and ron desantis has no real grounding in florida state politics at all and running get putnam well versed as any candidate in decades. none of that matters in the gop primary. in the primary context trump is a huge asset. if you get on fox an carry his water, that's going to pay off in a nomination. the real test in a purple state like florida, what does that mean in the general election? if you tie yourself to trump that much like he has, what do you do? >> for the general election. >> when voters who aren't that psyched about trump are looking at you and your entire brand is based on going on sean hannity and talking about -- almost at that hurdle but not completely. in the primary campaign after labor day, it's going to be both sides using donald trump and for democrats this resistance movement, he's going to be a powerful force. the other issue for democrats though is -- for all of the oxygen that this presidency consumes, one thing we don't often discuss as much as as what's happening on the democratic side in terms of identity crisis. elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, yes probably at this point but there are plenty of issues on the democratic side lingering for 2020. for now at least, one thing we have our eye on, how many democrats running talking about i am peext and other things. tom steyer spending millions talking about it. but that is hanging over this entire conversation, impeachment and investigations. and it's one of the reasons that the president is worried about the midterm election, boy, his life changes immensely -- >> quickly, john. >> if you look at the schumer and pelosi talking point and messaging, you would think it's the year 2006 and 2008. it's like we're fighting to lower health care costs for -- >> right. >> americans. >> it's like the pretrump era material. it's like your base is on fire and they are ready to impeach the guy yesterday. but they know that that is a dangerous tact to take right now. it is fascinating seeing some of their talking points to apply to a world that isn't there right now. >> one of the thing that emerges, the fight between lebron james and donald trump, the most fascinating thing being melania trump inserting herself into this in a way she didn't necessarily have to. her spokeswoman said looks like lebron james is working to do good things on behalf of our next generation and just as she always has, first lady encourages everyone to have an open dialogue about issues facing children today. the most fascinating part of this, she would be open to visiting the i promise school in akron, volunteering herself for an invitation to the school. >> this isn't the first time we've seen melania trump take a big step away from her husband. she gave a statement on family separations that was noted at the time as in critical of the policies. it is interesting, she has really tried to set herself aside in some ways from the party line here. and i don't know where that goes. are we going to see her do more of this? >> does she go to this school in akron, ohio? it really is fascinating. she could have offered -- >> fired by -- >> new school for at risk kids. they want to have it become the center piece of the latest trump on trump dispute. >> really fascinating to watch. we'll see where that goes. a director or a suggestion? first, politicians tend to say the darndest, things, rod rosenstein with reference to robert jackson reflects on the particular and peculiar challenges of his job in washington. >> jackson is widely regarded as one of the greatest attorney general although he served only 19 months and his tenure was repleat with challenges. one the difficulties jackson faced was what he called the unpleasant duty of responding to 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frustrated trump blowing off steam? the president's team says he's just venting. >> he's fighting back, stating his opinion and stating it clearly. there's a reason that the president is angry and frafrpgly most of america is angry as well. no reason he shouldn't be able to voice that opinion. >> what we said, it's an opinion. he used a medium he uses for opinions. he expresses his opinion on twitter. he used the word should, didn't use the word must. and there was no presidential directive to follow it. >> so giuliani making the argument there. what's the definition of should. should is different than must. in the key question here, is trump actually trying to obstruct justice? >> yeah, okay, if -- i guess the distinction between should and must matters if you're trying to figure this out in a legal context. if your boss says you should be doing this and you're like, yeah, forget it i'm not going to. that's not probably going to rule out result you staying employed unless it's your job to cross your boss all the time. the environment has to be taken into consideration when you take the president's words into account and parsing them out and what do they mean. in this situation, sessions serves at the pleasure of the president, saying he shouldn't doing be doing this. that's a strong opinion. doesn't mean sessions is going to do it based on everything else that rts stakes and fact recused himself and with the political fallout of what that action would be. but excessive tweets rising to this level where he's actually said it this strongly, even if he said he must, it doesn't mean sessions will do. >> it's a pretty strong position, laid it out there. >> some of the background on this or context, cnn colleagues are reporting that donald trump is increasingly concerned about the ways his son might be entangled in the mueller probe and this is some of the reporting here. trump has been concerned that the mueller probe could reach his family and potential his son-in-law jared kushner, but it turned to his name sake in recent weeks. this is one of several reasons trump has upped his public attacks on mueller because he doesn't want him touching his family, the person adds, giuliani responded to this basically saying this isn't so after over a year of more or investigating, no evidence of wrong doing on his part and nothing has changed. what can you tell us about this dynamic. >> it's about that meeting in 2016 in june of 2016 at a trump tower, don jr. was at. it's about did he tell the full story to the hill committee? he appeared before the senate and house company and did the president know about this in advance. michael cohen said the president knew about the meeting in advance. don jr. said he did not. we do hear the president is increasingly worried about the legal exposure his son may have in this. it's one of the reasons he's been increasingly agitated, i guess we should say, friendly. but look, i mean, the -- the issue here is the president has always believed his family members would be kind of a red line to cross here or family finances but it seems it's already in that territory. and we'll see sort of where this goes. but it is one of the reasons that is fueled his anger. we'll see what he tweets this week we have not heard from don jr. >> one of the tweets we heard him -- from this week, this whole idea of collusion not being a crime, something we heard from rudy giuliani, here's a democrat essentially responding to that saying the president is playing semantics. >> once again playing semantics and trying to use word games. if there is an illegal agreement, whether it is by the center or one of the spokes on the wheel, no defendant has to know all of the purpose of the conspiracy or all of the actors in the conspiracy. the president is part of a president, he's violated the law. >> and yeah, the -- they seem to be focusing on this collusion, not technically a crime idea. sure, my understanding from our point is, technically collusion is not a precise legal term. but it can be used as a shorthand for any number of things. >> conspiracy being one of them. >> exactly. >> what we're seeing here is the increased anxiety about the probe and also the paul manafort trial beginning. president is watching this closely and keeping close tabs on this and this is all kind of coming closer and they are getting more and more worried. >> and also this idea of wlrnt the president is ever going to sit down with mueller. that's also in the background. >> yeah, he wants to and nobody around him wants him to, which like a lot of things this adds mrgs come to think of it. but i think president trump consuming a lot of cable news and then venting about what he's saying is occurring in this administration, yeah. >> we also know he's upset about -- he's upset about media coverage of his travels to singapore, helsinki. he feels like he's not getting credit he's due. all of these things are feeding his frustration. >> well, coming up, democrats name drop the president, the strategy behind those mentions and whether it's enough to help them win this fall. hopes you drive safely. but allstate actually helps you drive safely... with drivewise. it lets you know when you go too fast... ...and brake too hard. with feedback to help you drive safer. giving you the power to actually lower your cost. unfortunately, it can't do anything about that. now that you know the truth... are you in good hands? blue wave this fall and their hopes for taking back the house may come down to the man in the white house. historically it's been a referendum on the president. 2018 may be no different. speaking to progressives democrats especially thoet seen as possible 2020 contenders took on trump. >> the rich and powerful prophet, when government doesn't work for working people and they have learned that the best way to stop us from changing the system is to set working people against each other. so they have become the experts at the politics of division. frankly, it might be the one thing that donald trump is really good at. that and kissing up to two bit dictators. >> president trump already has nicknamed her potential challenger saying he's ready to take them on in 2020. >> let's say i'm running against pocohontas or crazy bernie. i have to hand it to bernie. i saw him up there the other day, had hairs getting whiter and whiter and getting crazier and craze zier we'll stop donal trump. i looked at my wife, you've got to hand it to that guy, he doesn't quit. >> so there was -- >> it's basically like political stand-up, right? warren is wrong, he's pretty good at the political stand-up routine too. that's a real skill he has up there. and he does get at the sort of colonel of something, the fact that democrats do not have an obvious front-runner and this is a primary movement we haven't seen in a long time. there's no hillary-like establishment force. there's no obvious fenom on the horizon like with barack obama in 2008. it looks to be kind of a big unwieldy messy field, idea logically, generationally gender race, all over the map. >> yeah and here's kamala harris along with a few others, here's what she had to say about how democrats should sort of brand themselves. >> we're talking about those issues and we won't be shut up. and we won't be silenced. we won't be silent about immigrant rights. we won't be silent about a woman's right to control her own body. we will not be silent about equal opportunity and equal justice under the law. these issues that they are trying to diminish and demean, are the very issues that will define our identity as americans. >> leaning into to what a lot of people call identity politics and a lot of people say that was too much on the front burner for democrats in 2016, there is kamala saying bring it on. >> bring, there's a division in the democratic party as to whether they think this is the smart politics or not and a division in the democratic party as to whether people really want to lean into issues that are becoming clearly partisan based on the debates happening in washington, versus that you can find some middle ground or still win over some republican voters or independents who might lean republican. she has made her brand known since she got to d.c. and definitely kind of saying that she's not switching. and the truth is she's managed to pull a lot of people over to her position. when you see -- the transition dianne feinstein not running for president but you see people like that, kamala harris is a standard setter for what more liberal california thought is and she's been a visible figure who has had a lot of success in the party thus far and pretty quickly made it to the lives front-runners of 2020. clearly what she's saying, having some success. >> it's for the party. >> it's where the party is today and basically saying, we can't be afraid of leaning into the issues that we think are actually winners for our base. trump is playing his base -- and harris is saying we should be playing on it. >> here's alexandria ocasio-cortez, her take on what democrats are about. >> we've lost the house, the senate and presidency. that's all right because it's always darkest before dawn. the plight of working class americans is the same everywhere and we know that. we know that the future of this party, if we are to win again is to rediscover our soul, to come home and to realize that we can fight for social, economic and racial justice for working class americans. there is no district too red for us to flip. >> yeah, and she's really exciting a lot of people in the party right now and staking out that far left position. but i think one of the things for democrats when we look this year and also to 20 is that you can tailer the message when you're running in these different house districts. and when you run for president the message will bring a big tent message to appeal to a lot of different types of democrats and that's i think the debate they are having right now and they haven't really landed on sort of what that's going to look like. >> just real fast, that kamala harris sound bite you played is the sound bite her folks wanted out there. they blasted that out. they are laying down a marker she's going to run unapologetically on that. a kux things on that note, it talks about the republicans and it's actually about democrats. what she's saying there to the more class economic focused people in the primary, i.e. bernie sanders, bring it on. i'm going to run unapologetically as someone talking about these issues of race and gender. and she said that saying the word is perjuryive, number one. that's a direct rebuke to the clinton style of politics, bill clinton style of politics. bill clinton won the presidency in '92 and the nomination first after democrats had lost three in a row by rejecting precisely what she wants to make central in her campaign for president, when is we are not a collection of different people and identities, we are a one people, one party dedicated to uplift. and now she is saying in a very different country demographically it's just the opposite. it's going to be fascinating to see how the old guard element -- >> fascinating to see how smub like elizabeth warren, in some ways has bernie sanders type problems in terms of attracting african-american voters and more diverse voters, she was there giving out signs persist meeting with african-americans as well. >> you know, someone is going to win the primary of 2018 and 2019 but that person is not likely going to be the nominee. i think democrats again are going through this conversationist identity crisis if you will, and the overall sort of these sis or theory, will they elect someone who can attract and appeal to people who voted for this president four years ago. i think elizabeth warren certainly is the most prominent of all those figures but she really has a lot of work to do on the middle of the road here because a lot of people think she's too extreme. but one thing is clear, bernie sanders he has a lot of competition on his -- >> he really does. >> had it all to himself four years ago. >> ten seconds real fast, the question is, do democrats win in 2020 by getting out folks who didn't vote in 2016 and stayed home younger, non -- >> african-americans -- yep. >> win by converting the folks who were for trump who were obama twice. that really underpins this debate, is it mobilization or persuasion? >> it begins now and certainly right after midterm -- >> both, yeah. >> all of the above. next a tale of two administrations, the divide between president trump and his top intelligence officials. to get your windshield fixed. >> teacher: let's turn in your science papers. >> tech vo: this teacher always puts her students first. >> student: i did mine on volcanoes. >> teacher: you did?! oh, i can't wait to read it. >> tech vo: so when she had auto glass damage... 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i'll tell you what, russia is very unhappy that trump won, that i can tell you. >> and at his rally last night, trump finally mentioned russian meddling and added other countries into the mix. >> we got to stop it. we've got to stop meddling. we've got to stop everybody from attacking us, but there are a lot -- russia is there, china is there. hey, we're doing well with north korea but they are probably there. we've got to stop everybody. >> katherine, you really saw two administrations on display here on the one hand what the intelligence chiefs had to say and then donald trump. but he did seem to acknowledge russian meddling even though he through a bunch of other folks in the mix there. is that enough? >> this what we've seen from before. he offers some but doesn't seem to invest the same kind of time or energy or detail that his staff is. we saw a vast show from his intelligence officials and not seen the same kind of rhetoric from him. and the concern from a lot of critics is that if you don't hear this from the president in the same way, what message does that send to putin. it doesn't have the same weight withouted president fully getting on board. >> one of the ifrnteresting tha came out, dan coats saying he's still not sure what happened in the meeting trump had with putin. >> i'm not in a position to either understand fully or talk about what happened at helsinki. >> that was a fascinating moment there that john bolton, the national security adviser got a lifeline and said, you know, i'm assured by the president that election meddling was the first thing brought up. as that meeting now three weeks from helsinki. we'll never know exactly what happened in that meeting there. one thing we should point out, the president still says putin didn't want him. vladimir putin said himself in helsinki he did want trump to be elected, a bit of a fact check on that. >> another meeting that's going to be the focus of the mueller probe that we've been talking about is that trump tower meeting and we've got donald trump tweeting about this this morning and this is what he said on the tweet, a meeting to get information on an opponent, totally legal and done all the time in politics. it went anywhere, did not know about it. he's clearly reading the "washington post" and watching cnn. what do you make of this tweet? >> he's trying to play cleanup again. the problem is the story kept changing so many times and now you have basically people saying yeah, he would have known, did know. and so the president is kind of trying to run circles and change the story and hopefully listen to the most recent version of events in his tweets but it's very reactive and that suggests that there's less credibility there when you keep reacting -- >> probably more reaction from this president on a working vacation and clearly -- >> more working than vacation it would appear like if you call tweeting in response to cable tv working, which he apparently does. but to the point, is there any penalty at all to you know, making stuff up? i mean, as katherine pointed out, the original line was this was a meeting about u.s. adoption policy. now, officers cover politics laughed at that line because it was so i am plausible that don trump jr. had suddenly taken an interest in u.s./russia adoption policy and the heat of the campaign. but that was their line. you know, just one of many, many examples of saying things that are not true that they know aren't true and then they just move on. and now what, a year later we're talking about the fact that like, it's just all along it was a meeting about trying to get information about an opponent. not what you said in the first place, right? the big question for not just this issue but the entire trump administration is does that matter? >> and we'll see. the first kind of big test will be the midterm in november. >> yes, it will. >> up next, our reporters tell us the stories they are hearing from their sources, including rand paul's travel plans which are raising in eyebrows. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. stadium pa : all military members stand and be recognized. sometimes fans cheer for those who wear a different uniform. no matter where or when you served, t-mobile stands ready to serve you. that's why we're providing half off family lines to all military. tremfya® is fors caadults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. i'm ready. with tremfya®, you can get clearer. and stay clearer. in fact, most patients who saw 90% clearer skin at 28 weeks stayed clearer through 48 weeks. tremfya® works better than humira® at providing clearer skin, and more patients were symptom free with tremfya®. tremfya® may lower your ability to fight infections and may increase your risk of infections. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tuberculosis. tell your doctor if you have an infection or have symptoms such as: fever, sweats, chills, muscle aches or cough. before starting tremfya® tell your doctor if you plan to or have recently received a vaccine. ask your doctor about tremfya®. tremfya®. because you deserve to stay clearer. janssen wants to help you explore cost support options. each reporter share a tidbit to give a glimpse of stories we're watching. >> i spent time in the great state of kansas where they have a governor's race not gotten a ton of national attention but could have big national implications. chris kobak, the conservative secretary of state has a chance to win the gop nomination could mean democrats have a chance to win back the governorship for first time since 2010 and that's a big story and has gotten a lot of folks in the national gop nervous. here's why. they think that kobach could still be beatable on tuesday but worried that trump's itchy twitter finger could play a role during the course of his long unsupervised golf weekend in new jersey. and there's some thought that if he does do that tweet, that puts kobach over the top and make them spend a lot of money in kansas this year in an otherwise red state. >> it will be interesting to watch. >> katherine? >> one thing i looked at this week that i think is worth keeping in mind as we move forward, ivanka trump, white house adviser, first daughter, did an event with axios when she came to talk about workforce development and paid family leave but of course the comments that drew the most attention when she took questions about some other issues so she distanced herself from the president's criticism of the media as the quote enemy of the people. she also said she agreed that family separations were a low point for the administration. now, she drew rebuke from some k critics who said she has not said a lot about family separations and the president tried to minimize their distance in a tweet. but it really underscored the compromises and challenges of the role of she tries to carve out for herself in this white house. that dynamic and that problem for her is not going to go away as we see her move forward and continue to triumph policy agenda. >> tomorrow rand paul, senator from kentucky is heading to russia and we've seen various overtures being made by various members of congress to russia, mostly to try to get around the president and get a different message going there. if paul is going, he appointed himself a one man wrecking ball to defend the president against critics in congress and going as the only member of congress -- a few others going too -- to actually engage with russian officials. it's pretty unlikely he'll talk to putin or anybody like that but he's trying to talk to others that are influential in the kremlin circle. why is this important? it's not just a random rand paul trip but the president is going to take whatever presumably support paul offers him from this trip as a endorsement of the way he's doing diplomatic outreach to russia. we're looking down the horizon at future trump/putin summits and the tension that exists in the relationship as the mueller probe continues in and midterm election where everybody is worried about the potential for more interference and there's legal any lawmakers can do to stave that off in the meantime. there is going to be another -- another episode in this unfolding narrative but it's one that could serve to reinforce the president's opinions of his own job performance in this regard at a time when most are really critical. >> rand paul started taking the lead in this regard. >> inserting himself. >> interesting. >> jeff? >> trump campaign rallies there's a long and families of grievances that we all heard but one thing is missing, barack obama. i've been at a lot of campaign rallies in the last several weeks and noticed there's almost into talk of barack obama. of course, there's no one who donald trump talked about more for years and years and years than barack obama, that he's missing from the rallies. i asked a few advisers to the president why is that? they said one of the reason is the o.t. voters, obama trump voters are some of the most important political commodities if you will, the people who voted for barack obama in '08 and '12 and donald trump in '16. it's not that president trump is thrilled with the obama administration but he's not talking about him hardly at all. an hour-long speech again last night in ohio, more than that, he talked about him one time. i'm keeping an eye on the fact that at least for now, the president is not talking about his predecessor and almost no mention of obama at these trump rallies. >> you wonder if obama starts campaigning, that might change. >> i think that might change. >> i'll close with this. a couple of races to keep an eye on as we track whether or not 2018 will shape up to be another sho called year of the women. four women could emerge as challenges for the four republican held seats in that state. two of those seats are already held by women. we could see women running against women as they battle for the votes of you guessed it, suburban women. in michigan where john conyers won't be on the ballot for first time in decades after stepping down amid sexual harassment allegations, two women are among the front-runners to replace him. those ar i few races to watch as we look for trends in these upcoming crucial midterm races. and that's it for "inside politics" thanks for sharing your sunday morning with us. 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