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CNNW Inside Politics July 29, 2018 12:00:00

People. Inside politics, the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters now. Welcome to inside politics. Im john king. To our viewers around the United States and the world, thank you for sharing your sunday. President trumps inner circle under scrutiny by the feds. The longtime aide who knows the most about the money and the longtime fixer no longer willing to take a bullet for the boss. This man has come to a moment in his life and i wont talk about what he did in the past for donald trump other than being a loyal defender as an attorney, but i will tell you my own personal view. This man has turned a corner in his life, has hit a reset button and hes now dedicated to telling the truth. Plus new evidence the American Economy is booming, low unemployment, high growth. Is the timing just right or will the president s trade war stall the boone times . This is the time to straighten out the worst trade deals ever made by any country on earth ever in history. These deals were made by people i dont know if they didnt understand or they didnt care or if they didnt, frarningly, love our krunt. We have the worst trade deals ever made in history but now theyre becoming good again. And 100 days to the midterm elections, brand new cnn rankings give democrats a clear path to seize control of the house. The president s numbers are better of late, but still historically bad. Yet, listen here, he continues to defy history. Give me the top 25 Congress People that can go either way, and i want to go out and campaign for those people. Likewise for the senate. The famous quote, its the cnn this past week obtained a once secret recording of then candidate trump talking to cohen about buying mcdougals silence. So im all over that. I spoke to allen about it. When it comes time to the financing which will be what financing . Well have to pay. With cash . No, no. Check . Note the i spoke to allen, connected back to mr. Weisselberg. Cnn has told cohen asserts mr. Trump knew advance about the june 2016 Trump Tower Meeting Organized By Don Junior with russians who promised dirt on hillary clinton. The president says he did not know in advance. In fact, the president and those who speak for him denied it some 20 times back last july when word of the meeting broke. Cohen says others can back him up. The president s lawyer who just a few weeks ago called cohen a straight shooter and an honorable man now says pay no attention to the man who for years lived behind the trump tower curtain. I expected Something Like this from cohen. Hes been lying all week or two hes been lying for years. We all make mistakes about people who have been disloyal to us. Benedict arnold was disloyal. You can go back to ancient Classical Literature and find people who you think you trust and they turn out to be scoundrels. I dont think i want to go back to brutus and cesar, but we have a dilemma here for bob mueller to resolve for the Southern District of new york to resolve in that so many of the key actors in these key questions are people with damag damaged, to be polite, the president of the United States, Rudy Giuliani, Michael Cohen. What do we make of this . I think Rudy Giuliani, his dramatic take on this whole situation kind of tells you everything you need to know about how dire it is for the president. But it really does make you wonder, if Michael Cohen was such a scoundrel and such a liar, why did the president employ him for so many years . I think thats real lild where this all comes down to. The key word for me from giuliani is disloyal. This is about the lack of loyalty to the president. But the question for someone, not for me, maybe a juror, maybe robert mueller, maybe the Southern District of new york is why is Michael Cohen perceived as being disloyal . Is it because hes telling the truth or not telling the truth . We dont really know. On these Financial Transactions and mr. Weisselberg, who we dont hear from, smartly on his behalf, i think is in many ways the more consequential witness in that he knows about the internal financing and doesnt have the public credibility of the others. We know about the imt pas for one issue. We have this tape that Michael Cohen decided to release of the president. Here is Rudy Giuliani who says we have taken this to Forensic Experts and we think Michael Cohen doctored it. He abruptly ended thatrd roing as soon as the president said the word check. What were investigating is how did that happen . What actually did happen . What was eliminated . And then hes got to raise that question with every one of these tapes. We have determined the fact that he tampered with the tape in the sense that he abruptly mid conversation turned it off. Now, we know he didnt do that for a good reason. Again, the feds have talented people who know how to do this, know how to do the forensics and ability lies the tapes that. Will be event, if we get there, in a court of law. In the court of public opinion, smear the guys who was for years the president fixer, is the strategy. Now what . I think one of the important things that has happened this week is that there has always been this question about what is the importance of the southern district of new york case against Michael Cohen and the Trump Organization . How does that connect back to the Mueller Investigation and how does it connect back, if at all, to the president. There are a lot of people who says it doesnt really. The things that the new york investigators were looking at didnt have anything obvious to do with the president and the russia probe. Here is where we get the answer to that question which is that pressure makes things happen, and the pressure on Michael Cohen has made has produced its first small piece of evidence linking the meeting at trump tower. And i think the question will be, as that pressure intensifies on Michael Cohen, on w weisselberg, other people in that investigation, does it produce more linkages back to the Mueller Investigation and back to President Trump . Ultimately thats the big question politically and in washington as opposed to just about mr. Cohen. Is it rm to Connect The Dots and say thats one of the reasons . The president has criticized the investigations from day one. Is it fair to say thats one of the reasons he upped his ante when it comes to dont believe anything . Its hard to see the point of all this hysteria. What exactly would the crime here be . Its not illegal to talk to foreigners. Nobody is claiming any information changed hands. Even if it did, so what . If hes proven to have not told the whole truth about the fact that campaigns look for dirt and if someone offers it, you listen to them, nobody is going to be surprised. There are some things in politics that you just take for granted. That was not the president , obviously, but lets talk about that. The president s supporters often say theres trump derangement syndrome, they call it, among his critics and the media. Thats an example of trump can do no wrong among his supporters. Months ago, if it was the benghazi investigation, darrell issa didnt say, well, shes a politician, susan rice, shes great. Its okay the president may have lied about the meeting with russians or knowing about the meeting with russians. Right. The impression over the last 14, 16 months of the defense has been fascinating. You can put from January Of 2017 till now im pointing to a screen that nobody can seen. But just fyi, its right there. Its illuminating and interesting and it also underscores a really key component of all this, that there will never be a groundswell of opposition that goes beyond the kind of 50 to 60 of the country that seems to be very uncomfortable with this. He will always have his defenders. Everyone chuckles or laughs and that might be possible. The other side lies about people going after the president. Its actually really important. You can joke about how its been split up. This is a different scenario that past crises. You can look back and people talked about this perhaps during the nixon administration. What would have happened if nixon always had defenders. There was a 40 of the country that always defended him and didnt think he did anything wrong. They didnt have the megaphone that the president has now, to continue to defend him, to continue to make the case that whatever comes out is wrong, is whatever one else would have done. It matters because as we talked about repeatedly, this fight right now is a fight for public opinion, a fight over the airwaves. We have no idea what the Mueller Investigation is actually looking at right now. We dont know where sd andy is in terms of their case. As long as these camps sit in their places and have no desire to move one way or another, thats important. That will help dictate the direction. Agree with you 1000 . I lived through the bill clinton team smearing prosecutors. This is that times ten i think. At the core of it, forget the issue, forget your partisanship. Theyre saying its okay if the president lied. Its not okay if the president lies about anything. The thing about all of this, and this goes along with his assessment of cohen at this point, too, is his assessments of people are transactional, its based on whether that perp is being loyal to him at that moment. Now cohen is off and hes mad at him. Thats what that is. The one thing i do agree with rudy on, this is like an ancient drama with the pagt those and the heel turn and you dont know who to trust. I think its a problem for trump that cohen was recording anything because we dont know what else he might have. That being said, you cant make those charges criminal, its going to be splashy and media, but we have seen that not make a difference for him electorally because you have this issue where people stick with him. I do think thats the issue for him. I should note the president had gone a long span from late friday night until this morning not tweeting. Hes up this morning retweeting Michael Cohen in 2017 when don junior say iing that. Michael cohen has a different place now. Well see how that goes. Up next, 4 growth, add that to 4 unemployment. The president has a plan to rev it up even more. A trade war his critics warn will smother that boom. Come fly with me, lets fly, lets fly away. Come fly with me, lets fly, lets fly away. Response to our tax reform, to the deregulation that we and the president have pursued jointly has been phenomenally success fl. Im afraid it could really be jeopardized by this downward spiral on trade. Is there any indication the president is ready to step back . He did hit day tant button, the pause button with europe. Canada, mexico, china . Any indication the president is going to say im not going to risk this good thing . His argument is it is strong enough, we can ride this out. There will be turbulence but well be okay in the end. I think he very much still thinks thats the case. Interestingly the detente button was a little break with the eu. They gave him a little bit of an out by saying were not going to go further than weve already gone. With nafta and china, things are not going well. China has basically backed away from talks. Nafta is stalled and the president isnt actually making progress. If what he wants to do is up the risk for everyone so everyone decides to lower tariffs, thats actually not whats happening, even with the eu. I dont think hes getting exactly what he wants, but hes not backing down. I think his aides at this point have stopped really countering him strongly on this. You hear larry kudlow saying we just have to wait to see what works. If the president is right, this could turn out great. If hes wrong, who knows whats going to happen . I think his aides have resigned to where we are. This is any president s dream. There are a lot of people watching who didnt vote for the president. You can say this started under obama. Thats fine. Look at the headlines around the country. The president could just breed that in and he did take credit this week. You could take the victory lap and not do anything to mess with that, or you can try to do what this is the issue on which hes been most consistent. Look, there is a playbook for taking an amazingly good economy and turning that into an electoral success with an election in a few months. The question is will he follow it . The Message Discipline that he and the Republican Party have to have to counter and blunt the democratic wave that could be coming, you need to stay focused on that topic. And the trade war is one of those things that could challenge that discipline, but there are a million other things as weve seen that this president could end up diverting himself and the Republican Party from that disciplined message. That wont help them at the ballot box. You have conservative free market pop tigss like ben sasse of nebraska saying what are you doing . You try to solve with bailouts, another bad thing. Not heading in a good direction. Youre trying to make it 1929 again. We want more markets, we want more trade. Thats ben sasse, conservative senator from nebraska. Whats remarkable is listening to the farmers, this is from npr, most of the farmers dont like this, theyre worried about it. A lot of them voted for the president and theyre saying, okay, mr. President , well give you some time. We cant give you two or three years. If this stretches out too long, well be under water. I think theres still overwhelming support for the president because of his intent. What were afraid of is slipping into a longterm situation here. Wed still like to see, in my personal opinion, i think most farmers ive talked to at least here in wisconsin, we want trade, not aid. We dont give common sense, Hard Working Americans enough credit in the sense that, okay, youre the president , but there is patience for him doing things differently because thats why people voted for him. This scenario where you bail out farmers because youre hurting farmers is a little healittleal hand. The Top Line Numbers are so good its almost impossible to rain on that parade except for an executivedriven trade war. Thats what hes purposing. When you see the eu detente, they would argue we or moving toward freer trade. If you read the agreement they came to, very vague. It leaves out auto stuff and almost as an afterthought puts in the fact that maybe well get rid of the retaliatory tariffs as well. Youre getting taxed on both ends. Regardless of whether it hits in the long term, it makes longterm planning for businesses really tough. Thats the key thing. The businesses saying how do we plan three, four, five years down the line . The president thinks this is why a lot of republicans think he doesnt understand hes the leader of the punl. He thinks in a couple years well be out of the tunnel and hell be okay. Michael made note, 100 days and counting, our brand new cnn ranking show more races lean blue. Is the house within democrats reach . To skin matching. 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Republicans from 235 down to 158 solid seats for the gop. 29 likelies, 18 leans. You see the tossups, thats the yellow in the middle. For the democrats, 182 solid, nine likely and 12 leaning democratic seats. Can the democrats give to the majority . Let me give you a dream scenario. If the democrats keep all the likelies, win on the liens and sweep these tossups, look at the numbers. That would give them 230 seals, more than enough to be in the majority. Thats a dream scenario. Elections never play out as you with. It shows the math is within their reach. Why are that so optimistic. 27s toup races. 25 of the 27 of these seats are currently held by republicans, 25 of the 27 tossups are currently republican seats. Thats why the democrats are so optimistic. Only two of those yellow seats are blue, democratic seats. Democrats optimistic. Even more so at the 100day mark. Another reason theyre so optimistic is the then and now. Lets go back to the beginning of the year. Republicans are still in danger, but numbers were better. 177 seats back in january, only 158 now. More races have moved from the dark red into the lighter yesterday, the pink, the yellow and the blue. Democrats, 177 solid seats, 182 now. The climate for the democrats even better at the 100day mark than at the beginning of the year which is why current leader nancy pelosi sounds optimistic. At every turn republicans are selling out and putting their special interests and donors first. Look at where we were in january, where we are now, 12 races since we last did this a couple months ago. 12 more races moving toward the democrats which is the great tug of war in american politics. We talked about the booming economy, something the pr

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