we're watching in the killing of five of its citizens. the police chief moments ago describing this. let's listen. >> within two minutes, they were pushing in on the suspect and starting to get him cornered and not hurt anybody else. to answer the spirit of that question, do i think that the annapolis city cops, the county cops and the anne arundel county sheriff's department saved people's lives yesterday? without question. without question. i'll say this. the fellow was there to kill as many people as he could. >> the chief saying there is no longer an active threat to local citizens, convinced this suspect was acting alone, that after yesterday afternoon's horrific shooting at the capital gazette newspaper. police say the 38-year-old suspect, gerald ram olympics is h -- ramos is his name, now being held without bail. police said they found evidence in his home that he had planned this attack in great detail. he had a newly purchased shotgun and smoke grenades and he barricaded at least one exit before he started shooting. he had filed a defamation claim back in 2012. the paper had covered a a harassment case against him the previous year. the police just held a news conference. what new details did we learn? >> reporter: we learned quite a few details. we know at this hour this shooter is still not cooperating with investigators. he hasn't been cooperating since he was taken into custody, so much so that in order to identify who he was, they had to use facial recognition technology. maryland used a photo of this man that they had in a database, and they were able to i.d. him that way. we also, as you mentioned, john, know that they were able to locate his vehicle nearby. they also searched his home. and they said based on what they found inside his home, it is clear that this attack was planned out. however, they didn't get into detail as far as what exactly they found. but the police chief did make the comment that when asked whether the plan went as he hoped it went, he said that it was pretty close to it. the plan he had sketched out, it seems as if what he pulled off yesterday was very much in line with what he hoped to and what he planned to do. but what remains unclear for investigators is motive. so we do know that there is this longstanding issue and grudge that he's had with this newspaper because of that 2012 defamation lawsuit that he filed against the paper over an article that they wrote about him, but what is unclear is why now. the grudge started back in 2012. this is many years later, so they still don't know what triggered him at this point. john? >> renee marsh, appreciate the live reporting on the new details. now let's bring in cnn's brian todd whofls was in the bail heg as this played out, when the prosecutor was giving us new details. brian, what do you know? >> reporter: new details coming out of this bail hearing the sheriff of anne arundel county. he just spoke here in the news conference and the hearing we just attended. he basically laid out details of the plan that prosecutors allege that gerald ramos had to attack this building and to kill people inside. what we learned was he had allegedly barricaded a back entrance to the gazette offices so people couldn't escape. this is kind of laying out the thoughtfulness of his plan here. he barricaded that entrance, and according to the prosecutor, came to the front entrance, shot his way through the doors, got into the office and started shooting people in the small offices there of the capital gazette. we know, of course, that four people died right at the scene. one person died later at a trauma center. what we also learned from the prosecutor was he also shot at least one person trying to escape that back entrance. so that detail of his plan there in just horrific, grizzly information about how he allegedly planned this out, john. he was denied bail at this hearing because the judge and the prosecutor have argued basically that he is still a threat, a danger to the community. he's held without bail pending his trial. the next hearing is probably going to be within 30 days. the detail of the extent to which he planned this attack are just horrifying this morning. he came in with a plan. the police said last night this was a targeted attack, but he went in and basically methodically shot at his victims. when police arrived within 90 seconds, they found him hiding under a desk, john. >> hiding under a desk after what the law enforcement calls a killzone. brian todd, we appreciate your reporting outside the courtroom. let's take a few minutes to remember the victims and the legacy they left behind. wendi winters, she was 65, the mother of four children and an active volunteer in her community. john mcnamara's friends and colleagues called him mac. 56 years old. he was gthe guy in the newsroom who could do just about anything. writing, editing and even designing pages. 40-year-old rebecca smith started working there just last year. she was called kind and considerate. she was engaged to be married. she post oed on her pace book pe about being a dog lover. and rob h iaas en was 59. he is rrmd emembered as a gener mentor and he saw his work as part of a civic duty. >> rob never thought of it as heroic, he thought of it as a civic duty, a responsibility in a functioning democracy. but he was just this big, generous, gentle guy and such a gifted writer and editor. >> gerald fishman, an a word-winning journalist. the 61-year-old was quiet, clever and quirky. respected by his peers. local politicians said he asked tough questions and created every local story with deep importance. one of the survivors of thursday's shooting was a college senior, the newspaper's intern, anthony messenger. he tells nbc his colleagues were good and kind-hearted and he never expected something like this to happen in a newsroom. >> that was something that never crossed my mind when i took the internship, that i might see people die, people that were nothing but welcoming and comforting to me. it's a big job to take. i had never really had a job at an office yet, and they were accommodating to me and they really tried to help me write the best stories i could, so it was unfortunate to see such good-heart ted people suffer ultimately such untiming, senseless deaths. >> on the phone, danielle cole, a local writer at the maryland newspaper. what was it like to report on this senseless activity? >> i haven't broken down too much. i've been in a state of shock since this happened. i couldn't even go out and cover this story because i was so much in a state of shock. and when i went past all the satellite trucks and all the rest of the media, that was my chance to break down, i guess, and that's when the tears flowed, and thankfully our mayor of annapolis kevin buckley was there and he held me as did the city spokesman. you will not see the city of annapolis crying, but that's what i did. it was an attack on annapolis and not only that, it was an attack on journalism. i'm a journalist and i'm upset by this. >> help journalists understand the unique culture of a small newsroom like this. >> we all know everyone in annapolis. we know the news makers, we know those that write about the news makers and those that photograph the news makers and those that -- those journalist ths th do that, we all know one another and we're on stories together. wendi and i rose up in the freelance ranks of the capital together. she stayed at the capital, i moved on. this is horrific what happened, and we should all be upset and we should all remember those five names. they shouldn't have died. and as i explained to my 16-year-old who was leaving in a week to go study journalism, this is not normal. this isn't how i grew up. john, this isn't how you grew up. this could have easily happened in your newsroom, it could have happened in my newsroom. >> this is not how i grew up. i'm a former paperboy myself from the old school. these are your colleagues, your former friends, but you were particularly close with wendi winters. >> so wendi and i rose up through the freelance ranks together. we weren't best friends, but we worked together at the capital, and we worked side by side on stories together. wendi is such an incredibly valued member of the community as are all the others that we lost yesterday. but wendi truly tells each and every story that is happening out there in the community. and if she doesn't, i'm sure she's delegating them to someone else. we've lost some treasures here in annapolis. wendi writes a column that i used to write called "the home of the week." she goes in and tells about people's homes. i was not a tough act to follow. wendi is going to be an impossible act to follow. >> thank you for using that term, treasures. especially local community journalists like this are treasures in the communities, and they cover the schools and they cover the mayor and they cover the stuff that, forgive me, lots of national news organizations tend to forget even though it is so important. donna, were you ever aware of the tensions, the confrontations, the threats from this suspect? >> i was not until i read some facebook posts that i won't go into yesterday because those should be held private. but, you know, when you learn that threats in journalism aren't new, threats in community journalism aren't new. we need to take them seriously. i'm thankful for the anne arundel police department and any other responding agencies for ensuring other lives weren't lost yesterday. i will tell you yesterday's big story in annapolis was supposed to be indoctrination day at the u.s. naval academy in annapolis. it wasn't supposed to be the mass murder of five people at a newspaper. it wasn't supposed to be. and i will tell you this, wendi was very much involved with the navy community. she has kids in the navy and she was very much involved with the naval academy. so please remember those names. please remember what these journalists did and the fact that rebecca was brand new and supporting those journalists at the capital. remember those names. >> amen to that. donna cole, i appreciate you taking the time today. good luck to your son. i hope he stays in the business. we could use his help today. we'll be right back. the best way to hit the beach? 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[ applause ] >> thank you very much, everybody. the economy is indeed doing well. six months ago we unleashed an economic miracle by signing the biggest tax cuts and reforms. i have to add the word reform. very important word. but the tax cuts is what got us there and that's what's really doing it. the biggest tax cuts in american history. now it's my great honor to welcome you back to the white house to celebrate six months of new jobs, bigger paychecks and keeping more of your hard-earned money where it belongs, in your pocket or wherever else you want to spend it. [ applause ] >> before going any further, i'd like to address the horrific shooting that took place yesterday at capital gazette newsroom in annapolis, maryland. this attack shocked the conscience of our nation and filled our hearts with grief. journalists, like all americans, should be free from the fear of being violently attacked while doing their job. to the families of the victims, there are no words to express our sorrow for your loss. horrible, horrible event, horrible thing happened. when you're suffering, we pledge our eternal support. the suffering is so great. i've seen some of the people, so great. my government will not rest until we have done everything in our power to reduce violent crime and to protect innocent life. we will not ever leave your side. so our warmest, best wishes and regrets. horrific, horrible thing. thank you. [ applause ] >> for today's event, we're honored to be joined by our great vice president, mike pence. [ applause ] >> also joining us are secretary steven mnuchin, who has been keeping very busy lately. steve. secretary wilbur ross. wilbur. secretary alex acosta just came up with a great health care plan. thank you, alex. great health care plan. people are really liking it. association. sun s sonny purdue, the great secretary of agriculture. small business administrator linda mcmann is doing an incredible job. director mick mulvaney and treasurer -- >> the president of the united states in the east room here introducing senior members of his cabinet and other senior members of the presidential team as the president holds this event. the tax cuts the president signed six months and one day ago is a big deal. he hopes it helped the midterm election year. he interrupted himself at the top of his remarks to speak publicly for the first time about the massacre yesterday at the capital gazette newspaper in annapolis, maryland. the president offering condolences for the victims and said his administration would not rest until violent crime was dealt with. there are noticthose out there u look at social media who are blaming him. the president has nothing to do with this. this particular suspect has a six-year history of grievances with this newspaper. sued this newspaper, threatened this newspaper. but i believe what the president says about the media, by waithe way, is reckless and reprehensible. it's also a fraud and the president obsesses about his media coverage. there was some commentary about why did the president say something yesterday. is that fair? does the president have to comment on everything in american history? >> if there is a shooting somewhere in america, the president will usually rush to comment on it, so i think people wondered why he didn't do that. that being said, i think you're right, he doesn't have anything to do with this particular case. what's striking there, and we just heard from him, he said something along the lines of journalists expect to live without the fear of violence, and it's one of the only times i've actually heard him say something positive about journalist and see people who cover the news, and that's since he's been president. we often hear the opposite from him, and that gets amplified by a lot of supporters, including violent ways for those of us in social media. that's the only instance i can recall about what journalists do and what they can expect for doing their jobs. >> no one says he has anything to do with it, that guy clearly had a grudge against the paper for so long. but it's hard to see an attack on journalists like that and ignore the rhetoric we've seen toward journalists and journalism in general, and a lot of it does come from this white house regularly, from the president saying the press is the american people. they are not. both those things can be true, that the president had nothing to do with this, but also the white house and the president of the united states should not be making remarks like that. i think that's obviously why people brought up the rhetoric. some of them brought it up to the deputy saying this. when so when the president said it was fake news, these people were doing their jobs and getting things ready in the newsroom. these people were murdered and you cannot make light of that. >> i was concerned about this every day. the shooting happened and the rhetoric is stipulate deeply problematic. >> perhaps a little lesson. we're following other breaking news today. a court appearance in virginia for the president's campaign chairman paul manafort. let's get to our justice correspondent. what happened in the courtroom today? >> reporter: john, this is a court hearing that is one of the civil court hearings we'll have before paul manafort goes on trial here in alexandria, virginia in late july, in about a month. today's hearing was really supposed to be about suppressing some evidence. the manafort team wants to remove some evidence because they believe that the searches that were done of a storage facility and of his home were done improperly. one of the things that came up in this hearing was a bit of a surprise. it was a federal agent, an fbi agent who conducted one of the searches, and he said that they learned of a storage unit, a storage facility that paul manafort used to store some of his files, business files, business records. they said they learned about this storage facility from a group of a.p. reporters, associated press reporters, that came in to meet with prosecutors back in april of 2017. now, it's a bit of a stunning revelation because one of the things that we know in this story is obviously there's been a lot of accusations that there were leaks from the government to the media. the president has made that allegation, paul manafort's own team has made that allegation in court filings. but today, at least according to this fbi agent who just testified before this court, he said that they learned some very key information, the existence of this storage unit where paul manafort was storing important business records about his business, long-time business with ukranians and russian oligarchs. they learned about it in a meeting with the associated press, reporters who came in and provided this information to prosecutors. now, we should note that this allegation has been out there before. we've seen it on fox news and so on. the associated press has denied that their reporters provided any information to prosecutors. we haven't heard yet today whether or not they have another response in response to what this agent said today. but it really, john, i think will give additional fuel to this idea that tlhere is a conspiracy between the media and the so-called deep state of the president and paul manafort and people around the president. john? 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of the 2,050-plus, 1,045 children are under 13, 36 under the age of 5 and three under one year of age. this matters a lot because of a court decision in south carolina. it said children under 5 have to be reunited and children 5-plus have to be reunited. the government says it's doing it as carefully and efficiently as they can and they have to get it right. if you listen to them, the government doesn't know what it's doing? >> how many children do we have separated from their parents and have in custody? they said, we don't know. the president's executive order may have stopped them from separating families for the time being, but there wasn't a word about did in the president's executive order. and as we listen to them today, it doesn't sound like they have any plan whatsoever. >> you can imagine the president said there are 2,000 kids separated. we need to get this done in the next three days. that is not the president i'm seeing now. this does not appear to be a very organized process and one that the president is leading aggressively himself. >> i think that's right, but it's also the case that in making this policy in the first place, they gave zero thought to how they were going to reunite these parents potentially with their children and now they're faced with the situation where if you take a child from a parent who illegally and unlawfully crossed the border, even if it's someone seeking asylum, someone who came across the border with papers saying they are allowed to, that child gets on a totally different deportation track, you have separate counsel for the child, and it's very, very complicated and challenging, and in some cases impossible to get those two tracks closer to merge together in a timely way. and that's what they're facing now. and it's not really a surprise because these children are being treated like unaccompanied minors who crossed the border by themselves. that's not what they were. they came with their parents and they're unaccompanied now because of the trump administration, and they didn't have a plan on the front end for reuniting them, so now they're having to come up with one on the fly and they have very little time to do it. >> as the democrats ask questions, anybody regardless of party should be asking questions. where are they? what's the process? how are you getting them together? the democratic base particularly outraged by the family separation, putting more and more pressure in an election year on members of congress, some saying that i.c.e., immigration control, should be eliminated or significantly changed. that they're part of the problem, it's become more of a police state. kirsten gillenbrand, thinking about running, says i.c.e. could be the problem. >> i believe that it has become a deportation force, and i think you should separate the criminal justice from the immigration issues and you should reimagine i.c.e. under a different agency with a very different mission and take those two missions out. >> here's the response from the director of i.c.e. saying, no, no, no, no, no. congress writes the laws. if he wants to do things differently, fix them. >> if the american public wants to know who to blame for family separations, the first person to blame is congress. we went up the hill several months ago and told them what the loopholes are for the settlement agreement. we said, if you can fix the settlement agreement, we can keep the families together until they can see a judge. but they didn't fix it. so we're doing what congress failed to do. if congress is worried about family separations, they need to look in the mirror. >> congress needs to do a lot of things that congress doesn't do. we can talk about the ideal situation that congress would get together and write laws that would totally fix the separation issue. congress doesn't do things they should do. or keep the government funded. this is a perfect fusion, though, of multiple things. you have the crisis right now with the family separation, with the children at the border which is appalling to people in both parties, right? you also have the trickle-up of people in the democratic party like alexandria oe sacacis-cort. polarization will happen even more where congress is even lessee kwiles less equipped to solve this problem. welcome to midterm election year. >> the only thing that happened was the corruption bill. we're done, right? we're done? if you're a dreamer in this country, you have to hope the courts keep protecting your status, right? if you want tougher borders, we'll see if the president gets his wall money when we get to the budget question. but he won't get it in a big immigration bill. >> in 2021 when there is a democratic president, maybe. this is when we're talking about abolishing i.c.e. they're never going to abolish i.c.e. we'll have some immigration force in the country. the question is, is i.c.e. too aggressive now and is doing too much? i do think the next democratic president will not only do things trump didn't do but also not be as aggressive as obama was. i think on the left there is a view that obama's immigration policies were too tough, too, and that's where the pushback is coming. >> we never heard this from gillibrand then, but now we're hearing now that immigration is really tugging at people's heartstrings with these family separations, now we have democrats coming out more and more. >> you'll see how it's going to have splinterring effects within the dmc and the political parties. >> immigration has been a political mess for a long time. the emotions behind it are escalating even more because of the family separation. up next, kellyanne conway says pay no attention to all those stories about the white house chief of staff. 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we know the president vents about a lot of international organizations. does he say, let's get out or does he just say, i don't like these people? >> he vents about a lot of things, but you saw mnuchin there, he did not deny the story, he just said it was an exaggeration, and other white house officials said, yes, he does complain, but we don't expect him to do anything. they can't speak for the president because he does things unexpected. >> so he says to macron and merk merkel, hey, get out of the eu and we'll negotiate a bilateral trade deal. that sounds out there, but the president does talk a bit about his disdain for the eu. listen. >> the european union, of course, was set up to take advantage of the united states, to attack our piggy bank, right? you know what, we can't let that happen. >> are macron and merkel less inclined to listen to donald trump at this point? i don't think so. i don't think they care what he thinks about much on policy. these are pretty big ideas. getting out of the wto, breaking up the eu, him saying this to people? i hate to talk about this, but the putin meeting next month, it is a weird thing. if you were asking what is putin's agenda for the world, it would sound like this. these are pretty radical ideas. >> when trump talks like this, putin wins. >> it's ripping a page out of the putin playbook, putin just does it with smaller countries like ukraine and say we could use that deal because our economy is just a mess. but angela merkel is less inclined to make a deal with president trump. and that didn't go so well the last time he was here. that bromance got a little marred by the way merkel was treated. i know we have the america first view of the world, but if we say, we'll offer you a trade deal to offer to break up the u european alliance, yes, it can be stressful for germany and france, but this offer is very far-fetched. it's putin-like and very ambitious. it's not a trade. >> which makes sense because of the unique role of the united states in nato, they get nervous. you're right, they're not inclined to agree with the president, but now they understand they have to organize and argue against this. when you see other forces at a time when he's going to leave the nato meeting and go to the putin meeting. it's fine for potus to meet with putin. but it would be a grave mistake to downplay the fact that putin is an accomplice to war crimes, interferes in our elections and assassinates political opponents. don't trust, always verify. saying they figure what mr. trump wants to proclaim mission accomplished in syria and bring u.s. troops home. the white house's limp reaction to the fighting in southwestern syria shows they're probably right. mr. putin has been watching all this and wondering if mr. trump can be conned as easily and as often as barack obama was. >> and this isn't a threat just to the united states but to the west in general. when you have the president talking in advance about want to go break up the eu and undermining that alliance, he's approaching it like a businessman. if you break up with them and then do a deal with me -- but it's not about that. this is about a bigger thing than just, do you want to do a deal with donald trump? this is about the national order. if he does that on one hand and he's going into a meeting with putin on the other, and we know how much he wants to get along with him and wants to have a nice meeting, that is the concerns you hear rubio saying and they don't trust the white house as well. >> interesting month ahead, interesting month behind us, very interesting month ahead. thanks for joining us on "inside politics." hope to see you here sunday morning. i'll give you a wake-up call if you want. stay with us. wolf starts right now. hello, i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington. from wherever you're watching around the world, thank you very much for joining us. we start with startling new details on the shooting spree at a newspaper office in annapolis, maryland that left five people dead. the suspect gerald ramos, who is not cooperating with police, appeared on a video for his initial bail hearing. we heard this from police. >> there are no other suspects we're looking for right now. we have no

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