This. We begin the hour with uncertainty, mixed messages and chaos, words that can be used in places on long the u. S. Mexico border where the shift on the take of family separation takes on the most personal of terms. Or words that could be used right here in washington where the immigration impulses of the president are yet again causing policy and political turmoil. Now, lets be clear. It is a broken record. Hardly breaking news to say republicans cant get their act together on immigration. But it is breaking news when their latest effort in a Midterm Election year scramble is directly undermined by the president after Republican Leaders ask him for help. The house leadership wanted the president to say or tweet that he did not consider terms of a new compromise immigration framework to be amnesty. Instead the president tweeted this morning that, quote, republicans should stop wasting their time on immigration until after the Midterm Elections. Now, members of the leadership say their negotiations continue despite that tweet. But that tweet yet again shifts the white house story line, and it gives a green light to conservatives who dont want to protect the dreamers or vote to keep Legal Immigration at its current levels. Abby phillip live at the white house for us with more. Abby, the president s shift from Congress Must act to Congress Wasting its time. Why . It seems very much, john, that the president is throwing in the towel on this issue of immigration on the hill, and it could be that from the very beginning this president has never been sold on this particular strategy thats being carried out right now by house republicans. Remember, it was just a week ago that he caused his first wave of chaos on this issue by saying that he didnt support these compromised bills that were being deliberated on the hill. And then earlier this week he went to the meeting to offer support to shore up that support and left lawmakers incredibly confused about where he stood. Now, this all possibly has to do with the fact that this white house has calculated from the beginning that the immigration is a key issue for their voters. He wants to look strong on the border, and is not convinced that these proposals will get him there. Instead there is this crisis at the border with separating families, and the president is trying to navigate that. But he has also shown on social media, on twitter, that the strategy he would prefer to use is simply to blame democrats. Blame democrats for stagnation on the hill, blame democrats for the separations on the border. Meanwhile, republicans are left not sure exactly where he stands or whether they can take his word for it when he says he supports something. Meanwhile, im told republicans still have plan b, which is doing family separation issues separately in a separate bill. It remains to be seen, however, whether that is something that President Trump, in fact, supports. Abby phillip at the white house where the story keeps shifting and shifting. I appreciate the reporting. With me in the studio, Eliana Johnson of politico, Mary Catherine hamm with the federalists. Why is the question. Congress must act. That was the president of the United States 40 hours ago, maybe 72 hours ago, Congress Must act. This morning the same president. Congress is wasting its time. Is he just listening to the right, listening to those who say, mr. President , you dont want to sign a paul ryan bill we call amnesty. I think we can show you breitbart headlines. Thats one of the places this is being attacked. Is that all this is or is the president tweeting out of frustration . What is it . Theres been no real policy throughout this, and i think youre seeing that in the president s herkyjerky moves on this, saying congress has to act to saying he wont sign an executive order to saying congress should do nothing at all. Were just getting the president s guttural responses and in turn has thrown this entire issue in chaos where no one is clear right now what the administrations policy is or whether or how children are going to be reunited with their parents. So you have the policy at the border, which were going to talk about a bit later in the program. What do we know about the numbers . Are people going to be reunited . What happens to the children previously separated . Here in washington, we have a leadership that says, sir, wed like to keep our majority. Conservatives wont vote on certain things. Moderates would like a vote even though its never going to become a law. They would like a vote to say they tried to protect the dreamers. I know the leadership says were going to keep at it, were going to ignore this tweet. Steve scalise is saying its just the president being frustrated. If there are 10 or 15 conservatives who says the president is with me, vote no, its a waste of time, it makes it hard, right . The bill being considered in the house right now theyre going to try to get a deal on to vote on next week doesnt have a chance to get to law. The senator has senate has n plans to take it up. People in vulnerable districts, latino voters can say we tried to pass something, particularly dealing with daca, and thats a way to push back against what democrats are doing. There are a lot of conservatives that are not happy with this approach, and the president is saying, whats the point of even voting on this to begin with . I spent all morning on capitol hill talking to members, and they are doing the best they can to just completely ignore what the president says, the leadership in particular, because they just they believe everything the president is saying is completely unhelpful to the process. The question is will the rank and file members ignore the president . Thats a different question. Completely unhelpful to the process but doesnt the leadership look like fools forgive me spending a rotimea room for hours trying to get a deal. If the president says stop, youre wasting your time, a lot of people are going to say, i agree. Game over. It takes the wind out of sails in what might have been a fairly productive week in terend in te looking for a compromise. If you look at how intense this situation is, how much emotion there is, without the president being out front, without the president having legislators backs, there is no way theyll take the risk inherent in a major reform bill. You could argue the president is out front. He doesnt have the legislators backs, but he could be out front saying, i dont want to do this. Isnt that the meaning of the tweet this morning . And the question is whether the president really wants to solve immigration. Hes used it again and again as a rallying cry for his base. Whenever he has a problem, he riles up the base. Keeping immigration alive as an issue that he can continue to lead, build the wall chance, helps him politically. I think thats part of his base political instinct, to derail anything actually happening on a policy front. Absolutely right, that is his reflex, especially when he gets to a crossroads and there is a debate. The president trusts his instincts, trusts his reflexes. The president this morning tweeting, youre wasting your time. Then why three weeks ago, changethelaws . He said, now is the best opportunity ever for congress to change the ridiculous and obsolete laws on immigration. Is this a game to him . Hes correct on that. If you want a durable solution that is not subject to the whims of a President Trump or any other leadership, then you have to do it this way. Look, i think its possible both trump and schumer want an issue instead of a solution up to the midterms. Whether thats a good calculation or bad for trump or shoo schumer, i think its more bad for trump than schumer, but i think thats part of this. And i think he felt the heat for what many in the base said was a cave on the separation of families and then a cave on zero tolerance, which has become part of this as well, and a third one, which they think of as amnesty, was probably the line for him. The line for him. Its an interesting point, because a week ago some republicans, the moderates, wanted a vote to protect the dreamers. They said that was absolutely essential. They said they couldnt go home to their districts without at least trying. It was simply a show vote. The one piece of legislation that has become law, it was something all republicans fundamentally agreed on, tax reform, and trump stayed out of the process entirely. Youve lost both of those in this issue. Right, because hes involved. You have families being separated. For those who would have preferred no action at all, that blew up for them. Mike coffman, suburban denver, listen to him here. He said this now has reignited this issue the way he believes, coffman believes, hurts those moderate suburban housewives. He blames white house adviser steve miller for pushing the president and says Stephen Miller advised him on the border, on this recent problem, in terms of tearing families apart. I think that lack of understanding of the significance of how that played out has Stephen Millers fingerprints on it. I think the president needs a different adviser. The president needs a different adviser. Im sorry, Stephen Miller does have the excuse, Stephen Miller does have the president s ear. The president , i think, is is the president , right . And the president is in line with Stephen Miller and mike coffman. Coffman represents a more moderate view, represents a swing district for latino voters worried about the daca problem, trying to get that vote on daca separately which the white house and the speaker oppose. Stephen miller has a more hard line view thats in line with the president. While the president may think this is a good political issue, perhaps it is to rile up the base, it could hurt republicans like mike coffman who do not want to take this hard line view, particularly in a general election. The lack of consistency, i guess, is what makes it hard to track for me. If youre mike coffman, even if you oppose the president , you kind of want to know where he is. I think as hard as the policy itself, you can argue the merits and demerits in the policy. The lack of consistency and the lack of clarity about what the policy actually is after the president signed that executive order is equally problematic. Because people in the white house right now are not clear on what the policy is or whether that executive order, which contradicts a Court Decision of a few years ago, is legal. And thats thrown this entire issue into total chaos inside the white house and on capitol hill. Remember, john, there is a separate bipartisan effort in the senate. Hes just starting to deal with the separation of families. What does the president s positioning, how does that impact that process Going Forward also that has such significance . Especially when we dont know whats going to happen for these kids. Up next the High Court Hands down a very big win for privacy defenders. Nd a safe used car. You could start your search at the allnew carfax. Com that might help. Show me the carfax . Now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. Show me used minivans with no reported accidents. Boom. Love it. [struggles] show me the carfax. Start your used car search and get free carfax reports at the allnew carfax. Com. Im still giving it my best even though i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib not caused by a heart valve problem. So if theres a better treatment than warfarin, im up for that. Eliquis. Eliquis is proven to reduce stroke risk better than warfarin. Plus has significantly less major bleeding than warfarin. Eliquis is fdaapproved and has both. So whats next . Seeing these guys. Dont stop taking eliquis unless your doctor tells you to, as stopping increases your risk of having a stroke. Eliquis can cause serious and in rare cases fatal bleeding. Dont take eliquis if you have an artificial heart valve or abnormal bleeding. While taking eliquis, you may bruise more easily and it may take longer than usual for any bleeding to stop. Seek immediate medical care for sudden signs of bleeding, like unusual bruising. Eliquis may increase your bleeding risk if you take certain medicines. Tell your doctor about all planned medical or dental procedures. Eliquis, the number one cardiologistprescribed blood thinner. Ask your doctor if eliquis is whats next for you. Cardiologistprescribed blood thinner. I can do more to lower my a1c. Because my body can still make its own insulin. And i take trulicity once a week to activate my body to release it, like its supposed to. Trulicity is not insulin. It comes in a onceweekly, truly easytouse pen. And it works 24 7. Trulicity is an injection to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. Dont use it as the first medicine to treat diabetes, or if you have type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. Dont take trulicity if you or your family have medullary thyroid cancer, youre allergic to trulicity, or have multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2. Stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of a serious allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, or severe stomach pain. Serious side effects may include pancreatitis. Taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your low blood sugar risk. Common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, abdominal pain, and decreased appetite. These can lead to dehydration, which may worsen kidney problems. To help lower my a1c i choose trulicity to activate my within. Ask your doctor about onceweekly trulicity. If you have moderate to thsevere rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. Ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. Humira can help stop the clock. Prescribed for 15 years, humira targets and blocks a source of inflammation that contributes to joint pain and irreversible damage. Humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. Serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. Before treatment, get tested for tb. Tell your doctor if youve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if youve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flulike symptoms or sores. Dont start humira if you have an infection. Help stop the clock on further irreversible joint damage. Talk to your rheumatologist. Right here. Right now. Humira. Welcome back. Today a string of eightyearold robberies in detroit now has new meaning nationwide. The Supreme Court reading against the government this morning holding that Law Enforcement agencies generally need warrants to collect location data from cell phone companies. Privacy advocates say its a big win, and in their view, a big check on growing government surveillance. Chief Justice John Roberts writing for the majority argued that the data allows the government to, quote, travel back in time and conduct, quote, near perfect surveillance of suspects. Jeff zeleny joins us. A significant decision. Walk us through it. Its one of those decisions where the constitution, that was written in the 18th century, has to be applied to the world of this. It is not an easy thing to do. Its not surprising that the courts were 54. Basically what chief Justice Roberts said is these phones are essentially parts of our body now. And even though we know in some abstract way that we can be traced, our whereabouts can be traced, its not fair for the government to do that without a warrant. And he joined with the four liberals. It was an unusual split in terms of the court. You had john roberts with ruth ginsberg, steven bryer and sewn yo so tomayor saying were not going to ban the government from tracing people with their phones, but if theyre going to do it, they have to get a warrant first. They have to get a warrant first. So jeff, this is going to be in legal cases in the next 5, 15, 20 years. Privacy will be a huge issue in tracking of surveillance. Does this apply just to government or Law Enforcement, or is there any implications for business which collects all of this as well . Reporter its not directly addressed in terms of applying it to the private sector, but certainly its relevant. And it also you know, this is a moving target. Remember, these cases only come up when the technology existed for its not just you know, the law was mostly about phone calls. You know, when the government can trace phone calls, but weve moved beyond phone calls, because the mere fact of carrying a phone is evidence now. The government can track your whereabouts. That technology is only going to get more advanced. And people are so, yes, we know what the answer is for cell phones now, but none of us can predict how exactly the technology will evolve and the court will have to address that. But this certainly is a stop sign or at least a yield sign when it comes to Law Enforcement saying, you dont get free access to absolutely everything about us. We are going to insist, that is, we, the Supreme Court, are going to insist you at least have to get a search warrant under these circumstances. Thats not a big barrier for Law Enforcement. Its not difficult to get a search warrant. But it is a way of saying to Law Enforcement, you cant rummage around without at least involving a judge getting permission. At least a pause if not a stop sign to big brother. Ill take that. Jeff, i appreciate your insights today. As we go to break here, sad note. A voice in the world of politics has gone silent. Columnist and commentator charles cramwell died yesterday of cancer. He was 68. Charles also a psychologist, speechwriter, a bestselling author. To give you the protein you need with less of the sugar you dont. Ill take that. [cheers] 30 grams of protein and 1 gram of sugar. New ensure max protein. In two great flavors. New ensure max protein. And we got to know the friends of our friends. R the friends. And we found others just like us. And just like that w