Bath. Si inside politics, the biggest stories sourced by the best reporters, now. Welcome to inside politics. Im john king. Three questions after a contentious and confusing week. Was donald trump confused about immigration policy or did he shift and quickly retreat because of conservative outrage. There certainly can be a softening because we are not looking to hurt people. There is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. Question two. Do you believe it was just an oversight that Hillary Clintons lawyers didnt turn over to the government emails detailing the cozy relationship between the Clinton Foundation and the Clinton State Department . I know there is a lot of smoke, and theres no fire. My work as secretary of state was not influenced by any outside forces. Question three. Its a sunday morning. But if its this nasty ten weeks out, what comes next . What is being uncovered now is one of the most shocking scandals in american political history. From the start, donald trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia. With us to share their reporting and insights julie pace of the associated press. Cnns jeff zeleny ed okeefe and the atlantics molly ball. On tuesday this past week it sounded like immigration was the issue on which he was trying to make a genuine pivot to the middle. Theyll pay back taxes. They have to pay taxes. There is no amnesty as such. There is no amnesty. We work with them. I meet thousands and thousands of people on this subject, and i have had very strong people come up to me, really great, great people come up to me and theyve said, mr. Trump, i love you, but to take a person thats been here for 15 or 20 years and throw them and the family out, its so tough. That made a lot of conservatives nervous. Sarah palin among them saying she was worried trump was going all wishy washy, in her words. It sounded like a flipflop by the candidate who speak of a Deportation Force in the primaries and praised what was called operation wetback. On tuesday trump retreats. There is no path to legalization unless they leave the country and come back. So you could call it a softening. Now its a hardening. They can pay back taxes and well work with them. People are telling me its too tough to throw them out of the country. Now they have to leave. What is Donald Trumps policy on the 11 million undocumented . I dont think we know exactly, but i think that, if you look at his statements over this campaign in totality, you have to say that he is closer to where he was at the start of the campaign than where he was in that hannity interview. Its clear someone got to trump at some point this week and said, we should explore a softening, we should explore some kind of policy that, as he said, would keep Families Together who have been here for several years. But trump clearly did not like the pushback that he got from conservatives when he started moving on that. Its amazing that we are at this stage of the campaign and one of the Major Party Candidates is still trying to figure out not just a big policy position but his signature policy position. His running mate, governor mike pence will be with jake tapper on state of the union, he says trump is being like a ceo and listening to good ideas. There is an election in ten weeks. A lot of people criticized trump saying we dont know the details on policies. At least on immigration we had a better sense probably than on any other issue. Is it fair to say he confused things . Was this trial balloon. Did he go on sean hannity to test this out . Based on my conversations it was a bad focus group because it was so small but about a dozen voters in florida this week, i think it was a trial balloon. I think, what they knew going in was, as long as he stays absolutist on the wall he is allowed to waffle an everything else. To a person, they all said, as long as he builds the wall he can do whatever he wants on everything else. And for more than nine months i have had his supporters and not only professional supporters but voters in the field say, he knows that you cant remove 11 Million People. I get that. What hes saying is we have to find a way to deal with these people who are here and committing crimes or fraud and get rid of those people. All the other stuff is talk and bluster and is designed to sort of vent our frustration. He is no different now on this an jeb bush or marco rubio or scott walker or any of them. Or president obama. President obama or Hillary Clinton at different times in 2008 who waffled and clearly struggled with this in public and confused what their position was. He does now say the thing about the hannity thing was pay back taxes, work with them. People come to see and say you cant make them leave. That was an indication, if you know the language of the immigration debate, a clear sign that youd let them stay, some path to legal status. Listen to him with Anderson Cooper after the blowback. Rush limbaugh and sarah palin came out against this. Other conservatives said whats going on here. Here was the next day. I dont think its a softening. 11 Million People are no longer going to be deported. I hear people saying its a hardening. 11 million, there is a path to legalization. Is that right . Its a process. You cant take 11 at one time and say, good morning, youre gone s gone. Listen to him yesterday in iowa. This state has defined especially republican politics. We are going to get rid of them day one. We start day one. The reign of terror, and it is that you go to some places and you will see, the reign of terror will be over. They know all of them. They know the good ones, the bad ones. They know all of them. We are going to get rid of the criminals, and its going to happen within one hour after i take office we start. So apparently were back to boom there. Within one hour of starting. You can also talk to tom republicans as i have done this week who arent being too cynical and saying, he also may be intentionally trying to confuse the issue. Because the takeaway from the week, we say he is a disaster on this policy. Not necessarily. He is definitely, you know every viewer, every voter is not tuning into every iteration of his hour by hour change. He ends the we cannot looking as harsh in some respects in some peoples minds. At some point he has to clarify his position for the right. Sarah palin has so far only given a newspaper interview to the wall street journal. When she starts speaking loudly it will be more of an issue. He has canceled his speech again. I think on wednesday it was supposed to be in arizona. Not doing it. This is about getting his numbers with minority voters up even just a few fractions of a point. Suburban or amongst suburbanites who think hes intolerant up a bit. He is doing what hes always done on every issue, which is to try to take all the sides so everyone can hear what they want. Immigration was a notable exception to that. He said everything is negotiable, which ought to have been a red flag to people who want him to be absolutist. Now hes demonstrating that indeed everything is negotiable. He has a meeting with hispanic leaders and feels them out. He has different people in his ear. I dont think its more complicated than that. I dont think there is a grand strategy. Its literally him feeling out in public, taking a poll of the fox news audience and trying to tell them what they want to hear in realtime. Sometimes people want mutually irreconcilable things. Thats hard to accept. You always get the general election pivot, the etchasketch moment. Usually the nominee pretends thats not what theyre doing. Here there is no pretense. You can say here they go again. Look at what he said during the week. Dont trust us. Look at it and say is that consistent . Trump says this is our fault. In recent days the media, as it usually does. Has missed the whole point on immigration. They have missed the point. All the media wants to talk about is the 11 Million People or more or less. They have no idea what the number is because we have no control over our country. They have no idea what it is that are here illegally. Um, point taken if in the media mr. Trump will concede on this issue, you have to include this guy. I think his name is rush limbaugh. Who knew who knew that it would be donald trump to come off and convert the gop base to supporting amnesty. He said rush said as part of that, give me a minute to regain my composure. This one to your point, a lot of nominees do this. But on this one issue, the base thought this is the one issue on which we know trump. Let him say what he wants about this and say what he wants about that. On this one but i mean, he was like hysterical there. It is hilarious. Ever since the day after the 2012 election when mitt romney lost, republicans have been talking about the need to get right on immigration. And theyve been talking about the need to figure out a plan for the 11 Million People. This isnt just a side issue in the immigration debate. This is actually very central to working on this problem. And the idea that you had candidates in this race like jeb bush, like marco rubio at a certain point, who actually had looked for policy positions that could get republicans right, and also might be more favorable to a lot of voters on a variety of other issues and potentially could have won this election more easily than it looks like trumps path will be. And they get sidelined in a primary where trump pushes everybody to the right again. Frankly, it is hilarious. I can understand why rush would be cracking up. Whats the impact . Does he risk losing his base if they think he is waffling . Does it almost not matter . Do voters tihink as long as he builds the wall he is tougher than any opponent . Whats the net plus . Does he gain in the middle and not lose on the right . I think what trump was saying in that speech was what ed was saying. The focus is the wall. Everything else is a side show. Think about what trump needs to be doing right now in the election. He needs to be growing his support. The people who are already with trump, yeah, a lot of them will not budge. A lot of them will continue to hear what they want to hear and say hell build the wall and thats all they care about. Is he growing his support . Is he convincing people who are on the fence or want to like him but are put off by some of his statements . Is he convincing them to come into the fold . Maybe there are some who see it as a softening. But when he goes through the public back and forth and there is no clear stance, i dont think he is growing support. There is an election in ten weeks. Happens to be a debate a month from now. At some point, youre right, what to do with the undocumented is central to this question. You can get consensus not for a wall but a tougher border. More technology, more Border Patrol agents. Thats been the problem. Until he speaks with clarity, well keep talking about it. Up next, donald trump calls Hillary Clinton a bigot. She says a Trump White House would be open to racists and hate mongers. Health has been an issue in this campaign, and there are medical records and then there are pickle jars. Are you in good health . Well, this has become one of their themes. Here, take my pulse while i am talking to you. Okay. So make sure im alive. Oh my god. There is nothing there. There is nothing there. 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You might say or many people are saying his pitch was unorthodox to say the least but donald trump took time at every event this week to reach out to africanamericans. Ill bring jobs back. Well bring spirit back. Well get rid of the crime. Youll be able to walk down the street without getting shot. Now at first Hillary Clinton labeled trumps tone offensive. In a scathing speech thursday she said no person of color should trust anything trump says. Of course there has always been a paranoid fringe in our politics. A lot of it arising from racial resentment. But its never had the nominee of a major party stoking it, encouraging it, and giving it a National Megaphone until now. On friday clintons running mate joined the attack. He has supporters like david duke, connected with the kkk going around and saying donald trump is their candidate because donald trump is pushing their values. Kkk values, david duke values, donald trump values, are not american values. Theyre not our values. In that part republicans say was out of bounds because tim kaine went kk values, david duke values. Donald trump says there are commas in there. Republicans say thats over the top and that back when Hillary Clinton was in the senator one of her mentors was bobby bird who was a member of the kkk in his youth. He later apologized and said it was a mistake. Somebody will have to wake up and be the president elect and say i have a mandate to do this. Our Central Campaign last week was she is a bigot, you are a racist. Weve heard her say a lot of things about donald trump. A lot of speeches. That was different. It wasnt about saying he is not qualified because of his business bankruptcies. This is different. I think that she was i was struck most by the republicans she was try to go reach out to in that speech. She, in one speech, defended ted cruz, paul ryan, george w. Bush, bob dole, john mccain, saying that they have all thrown out racism, they all have rejected all this argument here and what is donald trump doing to the republican party, what are his some of his fringe supporters doing. So i think she is trying to really highlight this moment here. The question is, is she a good messenger for what. Is anybody out there worried about donald trump and will say im going to vote for Hillary Clinton. But by drawing attention to it was an important week on the campaign. The Clinton Campaign is making a conscious decision to not paint all republicans in the light that theyre painting donald trump, to essentially say to republicans, i understand that am so of you disagree with him too. You might not like me and think i am the best choice but i am certainly better than him and you dont want your party overtaken by that. The second was the silence from most republicans in terms of defending their nominee against these charges. I dont think i saw anyone who was not a hardcore trump supporter come out and speak to his defense after that. And that is pretty remarkable at this stage. Isnt this sort of overture in mentioning the republicans designed to prepare her to governor if she is president . She is saying to the senior republicans, suddenly, i know youre not him, i know he doesnt represent what you are. I need and i want to work with you when i am president . To me that is part to me thats when i hear that, thats what it sounds like, that she is sort of telegraphing to them, i know the difference and i know im going to need to work with you if i am president. The Clinton Campaign sees two basic tracks of attack on donald trump for the next two months. Number one, he is a threat to national security. Number two, he is hateful. So this is part of a deliberate strategy to, as we were saying, to win over the moderates, the uncertain voters, win over the conservatively independents and traditional Republican Voters by convincing them that trump is beyond the pale. You heard the scripted response that donald trump read off the prompter saying, listen, republicans, the democrats always call us racists and were tired of this strategy. Its also the skcase that the traditional Republican Voters do feel they are always called racists and theyre tired with the six degrees of separation with the kkk that they feel is a common electionyear campaign. Will this be effective for Hillary Clinton . We dont know. One goal is to keep the suburbanites from going back to trump but also to motivate africanamericans and latinos to make sure they turn up. He made the point you just made but also said how can you listen to Hillary Clinton talk about race when she is this. Hillary clinton is a bigot who sees people of color only as votes, not as human beings worthy of a better future. She is going to do nothing for africanamericans. She is going to do nothing for the hispanics. She doesnt care why her policies have done to your communities. The language trump uses has b