Far as of the aid package would be a major shift and some members of his party are livid. Today does a deal as a House Democrat i say exchange ukrainian lives for Asylum Seekers lives . A member of the committee who says shes a hell no on what the white house is considering is with us. Plus she calls it palestinian rights. A middle School Teacher is being kept out of classroom over an email signature that included a controversial phrase. That teacher is here to explain her intent and her Dis Discrimination complaint. Plus a 10yearold boy arrested for relieving himself in public when he couldnt find a accbathroom. Youll hear from the boy ask his mother who says this wept too far. Im Victor Blackwell. Lets start the show. A growing number offed a vo caughts are furious over concessions that pooud is considering to secure aid for ukraine. The white house urgency to get that money has put democrats in an uncomfortable position. They may have to support policies they once criticize d when proposed by former president trump. Some of the policies considered, raising the credible fear standard for Asylum Seekers, increase Ing Deportations and expanding detentions. The changes would be significant and in some ways divisive. Still, some democrats say they support the concessions. If you look at the people this come in, they get in and then at the end of six years when they go in front of an immigration judge, almost 90 will be rejected. So why are the taxpayers paying for all this time and then at the same time, its not fair to give these people false hope. Democrats already rejecting the concession ises. Any deal in the senate would have to go to the hole. A congresswoman of illinois is one of those vowing to vote no. Shes a member of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus and on the Homeland Security committee. Good to have you. The republicans have the numbers in the house. I wonder how much this would cause a problem within the party. You say youre a hell no on whats being discussed. Are you a no on all Policy Proposals out of the republican border bill . I serve on Homeland Security and i was in that markup for 17 hours. I know the bill pretty well. Most of that will take us back to draconian policies is. They want to retaliate against any organization that would serve migrants under any program. Thats how extreme hr 2 is. That means if Catholic Charities happens to help or the red cross during a disaster and then they serve or feed or shelter a migrant family during that moment, they would slash the funds for that organization. Its deplorable. The fact we havent had policy over three decades, i was just a little girl when we had the first citizenship. Now were going to go back and make it even harder and increase the number of people who are coming illegal ly because were creating these horrible policies to make it impossible for people to seek asylum. How much interaction has the white house had with the hispanic caucus. Have they consulted you as these conversations have gone on with the Senate Republicans . The reality is they have not. Thats been demoralizing and disappointing for us. We understand the policy is the best. My husband is a dreamer. This is what i worked on my entire life. Theres conversations between senators, none that have lived that. I just came from guatemala on a trip talking to migrants. Ask we have not been in the room yet decisions that are going to impact our communities severely are being negotiated. I knows this is a secondary, maybe tesch area consideration. Some say that a deal that the president makes to get this larger funding bill done could hurt him with hispanic voters in 2024 for the reelection. But wonder if we lock at another direction. Does making a deal over some of the liberal members of the party help him with independents who say that he bucked some members to do something at the border even when it was difficult . Campaign promises is what every voter looks at. What i campaigned on and what i did. President biden campaigned on getting a solution to the immigration problem, creating illegal pathways, make ing sure that this country continues to be a country where people seek Issing Asylum Have is the right to do that. Doing the opposite doesnt look good in any way. The second thing i would say when you look at what republicans are trying to do, they are not trying to serve border policy. Anything they do now i promise you in january when we go back to appropriations negotiations, they are going to want to do more and more and more. Lets get to solutions and we have recommendations for that. That was a the president who included this border in the bill and connected all these issues to get the 110 billion, as i mentioned, for those others interested as well. I want to play something for you that the conference president said that led to her us is suspension and get your reaction. Lets play it. They are shopping around. The bus loads are coming. Were seeing families on the street. Were not used to seeing families on the streets. But black people have been on the streets forever and ever. And nobody caress because they say we are drug addicts. But these immigrants who come over here, they have been raping people, they have been breaking into homes, they are like savages as well. They dont speak the language. They look at us like we were crazy because we were the only people in america who were brought over here against our will and we were sold into slavery. But Everybody Else who comes over here, were so kind and friendly. You need some clothes and a place to stay. Were going to make it happen. Your reaction to what you heard there . Im disappointed. Its heartbreaking to hear someone in her Leadership Role that you can that way. We have been pitted against each other and instead of calling Bun Group Savage should be figuring out how to get resources to the black community and how do we make sure others seeking asylum also get resources. It shouldnt be an either or. That keybind of language is wha continues to divide our communities. Congresswoman, thank you so much. A muslim group has filed now a complaint against a Maryland School district because an arab American Teacher was placed on leave. The council on American Islamic relations accuses the Public Schools of removing the teacher from her Middle School classroom. According to the complaint filed with the equal Employment Opportunity commission, the email signature includes the phrase from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. Now the Antidefamation League calls the slogan antisemitic and says this rallying cry has been used by antiisrael voices including supporters of Terrorist Organizations such as hamas. Joining me now are the teacher and her attorney with care. Thank you both for being with me. I want to start here with i think we need to discuss this context. The intention of the words and the interpretation of people who believe that this is antisemitic, when you put it in the email, what was your intention of the message . Good morning, hello. Thanks for having me. Just like any ed advocacy that believe in, i feel like its always important to make sure that you are expressing really, youre making sure that you feel as though you are standing up for injustice. And really encouraging the justice and firestorm for all oppressed groups. So to me, that was a way of showing my ed advocacy of that my believes in freedom and justice and rights for all people. But you know, as i mentioned, there are many jewss who believe that calls for the erase of israel, its antisemitic. So what would you tell your jewish colleagues,en students, parents, at the school, who believe you have called for those things and you were aware of how it would be interpreted when you included that in email signature. I think just like any political slogan or statement, it can have some controversy around it, but if whats important is to go to its intended meaning. The intended meaning is the freedom and justice for Pa Palestinians and oppressed people in general. Let me read from the email policies. Asked to maintain professional signatures and abstain from special stationary, quotations or sayings as part of following email signatures. Why is it appropriate to write any political message in an email . Shes at work. If this is what she believes outside of the school building, keep it there. Heres the problem. We had other teachers who were include ing political slogans i it their suggests at school. From black lives matter to slogans around the lgbtq movement. She was the only one who was disciplined for her email signature. Were seeing a pattern right now where arab and muslim employees are having policies disproportionately applied to them. Other employees are not having those same policy ises applied to them. This is a way to punish muslim employees who are speaking out for the palestinian people. So youre suggesting that it is because she is a black woman, she is a muslim, that that is why she has been disciplined this it way. If a white man had written from the river to the sea, palestine will be free, he would not have faced the same consequence . Absolutely. Were getting complaints there are people who ared a vo caughting for palestinians, but the discipline that is being applied to them is significantly more minimal than the discipline being applied to people who are arab and muslim. Her issue went from zero to 100 really quick. I have seen people participate in the same conduct and they get a slap on the wrist. So policies really need to be applied equally and fairly to all employees. The Montgomery County School District says you remain on administrative leave pending an investigation. They wouldnt discuss it more because this is a personnel matter. You have offer eed to remove th slogan from your email to go back into the classroom. That was denied. Im not asking if you regret your belief. Im asking do you regret the action that led to your administrative leave . As someone who is passionate about advocacy, i think what i wouldnt say i regret what i did, no. However, feel sad that other people felt a certain is type of way about it. Overall, im disappointed at at how the School District really handled the situation by going 0 to 100 when we are Restorative Justice county and Focus On Reflections and understanding why and restoring relationships instead of immediate punitive measures. Well continue to follow this story. Thank you so much for being with us. A 10yearold boy in mississippi now has a Probation Officer for urinating in public when no restroom was available. Hear from the boy and his mother on how this happened and what they plan to do next. Plus, im not a latina. Clear to you and me. So why was it not clear to an ai program that cnn tested out . What we learned from our experiment with facial recognition about ai and biases. It thought i was Victor Blackwell . Hes a black man. That says these Al Go Rut Thements are not ready for prime time. Breaking news on the three israeli hostages killed friday by Israel Defense forces. An idf official says they were shirtless and waving white flags when they were shot. An official called the Killing A Strtragic event and a violation their rules of engagement. Theres intense combat in the area where the hostages were killed. So whats the price of destroying someones name and reputation . A jury in d. C. Says Rudy Giuliani must pay nearly 150 million to two election workers here in georgia for defamatory statements he made about them after the 2020 election. Two women were awarded more than 16 million for defamation, 20 million each for emotional distress, and 75 million total for punitive damages. I miss my home, i miss my neighbors, and i miss my name. I have heard some of you. Dont be sad for me. Dont waste your time being angry at those who did this to me and my daughter. We are more than conquerers. Pray for us, as we continue to fight the good fight of faith. Rudy giuliani says he will appeal. We have an update to a story we brought you last week. This is about the candidate for sheriff in louisiana, who won his rough run off by a single vote. Hes fighting for an order to overturn that election. Our affiliate in shreveport reports that he lost his appeal to prevent this second runoff. His opponent i says there were illegal votes cast. The judge agreed and ordered a do over. Hes trying to take his case now to the Supreme Court there in the state. If the louisiana Supreme Court declines thes case, the earliest the new election can happen is in march. Heres what whitehorn told me last week. One vote does matter. We proved that in this election. So were encouraging folks to stay with that and to come out if theres a new election. But i have faith in the court system as well. I dont know if this will even get to another election. Whitehorn would be the first black sheriff in the parish. There are more efforts now in two states to close down or cut back on diversity, equity and inclusion programs. Oklahoma, first up, the gop governor signed an Executive Order Defunding Efforts in public colleges. His state is going to encourage equal opportunity rather than promise equal outcomes. Also the university of wisconsin board of regents made a deal with lawmakers to cut Back Diversity Initiatives there. The uw system will get about 800 million in state funding. This money being held up by republicans. But to get that, they have to accept big cuts and changes to their dei staff and programs to diversify their faculty. Thats after the board rerejected the same deal four days earlier. They are on board now. Wisconsins governor calls the vote by republicans a vast overreach and wrote that he hopes that every individual who promised in this process that the important work of building day ty, equity, and include conclusion and making sure our campuses are welcoming and work for everyone would not be diminished by this action and will be working in earnest to make good on that commitment. He says he will make sure that they do. According to the kchronicle of higher education, this is part of a broader effort, but you know that. At least 40 antidei bills have been introduced in 22 states. At least 7 have passed. Next the story of a 10yearold boy arrested for nating in public doing what boys sometimes do when he could not find a bathroom. Hear from the boy and his mother who say it went too far. A 10yearold boy was arrested for doing something that sometimes boys do. He urinated outside because there was no public restroom available. This is in the northern part of mississippi. His mother says that he relieved himself on private property standing behind an open car door. A Police Officer saw it and seemed to be satisfied when his mother scolded him, but then four other officers, including a lieutenant, arrived and arrested him. Since then, one officer involved was terminated. Other officers will be disciplined. This week the county youth court placed him on three months probation and assigned him a book report. With me now are the boys mother and the familys attorney carlos moore. Thank you both for being with me. I see were having a bit of trouble with your csignal, but im going to try to come to you first. Tell me what happens. We were in the attorneyses Office Seeking legal advice. He walked in and said your son was urinating behind a car. So we walked outside. They dont have a public restroom. So i told him dont do it again. He said, okay. So the officer allowed him to get back in the car. He said make sure he doesnt do it again. Shortly after about four or five officers pulled up. The lieutenant got out and asked what was going on. So the other officers went over and was having a conversation. After the conversation, another officer walked over and said, im sorry, but i have to arrest your son. So i was like, are you serious . He told my son to get out the car and put his hands behind his head. They put hum in the patrol car. We got there to the pd. They still didnt allow had me to get my son. I was there for a 45 minutes to an hour before they even let me get my son. Let me play here what he said that experience was like. I started crying a little bit. They took me down and they got me up shortly. I didnt know what was happening. I was shaking and thinking im going to jail. Attorney moore, let me come to you. He wept to youth court and was declired delinquent or in need of supervision. He now has been sentenced to probation. You say he was treated this way because of his race. Explain. I dont believe any other child of any other youth in america would have been arrested, prosecuted and sentenced for urinating in public discreetly. Thats something that every boy and man in america has done at some point, i believe. Its a right of passage. No one else has ever had had to go to jail for it. But this 10yearold did. It stinks to high heaven. Do you have any evidence or indication that race was a factor . Was race mentioned or is that just a conclusion based on his being black and being arrested . He is black in mississippi. The judge was white. The arresting officer was white. The chief is white. Thats all were left to conclude. All the other people are white and he was black. We asked for him to dismiss the charges totally. They refused to do that. The prosecutor threatened to upgrade if we didnt agree to probation. Whats your concern about the impact on his now that he has baugs . It hurts me they put my son on probation for something he could not control. Not only that, he has to report to a Probation Officer. And then for them to do that, it really hurts me to my heart. I think a lot of parents would feel exactly like you. Were having a bit of challenge with your audio, but thank you for being with me. A 10yearold with probation for doing, as i said at the top, something that boys do and occasionally men do as well. Thank you both. Coming up, cnns isabel ro salz. Do we look alike . I dont think so. Ai facial Recognition Software thought so. Our experiment and the red flag that she found, next. Police departments are ai software to identify crime suspect ises. In some states, the technology can compare faces on Surveillance Footage to maybe yours by tapping into millions of drivers license photos. Isab is isabel spoke to officers and say it make more mistakes. It started with a loud knock on the door. The homeowner spent 11 hours in jail for a crime he didnt do. It ended with a 25 million lawsuit. It was Police Officers at the dor. They told her she was under arrest for carjacking and robbery. They frisked and handcuffed her as her children watched. That was an experience should have never went through. Reporter she later found out a a i roleplayed a role in her arrest. Facial Recognition Software mistakenly matched her mug shot from an arrest eight years ago to this video. Defending the technology, they blamed officers for the error. The investigator worked. Reporter ai is the life work. Its not ready for deployment. Its not a product yet. So do you think it should be used by Police Departments . Certainly not. A report by Georgetown Law Estimate as a of 2016, 1 in 2 American Adults is in the facial Recognition Network and can happen without your consent or knowledge. This is not accurate for the way its being used. When you ask a question like is this persons face match up with the fugitive, you can have a 99. 7 accuracy rate. But what if you ask that same question 300 million times. You deploy these things at a population level, youre going to get a tremendous number of the false positives. Depending on your race, that accuracy drops even more. A 2019 study of 200 facial recognition algorithms found some of them up to 100 times more likely to misidentify people of color compared to white people. He put the tech to the test. Well see what happens. Using pictures of cnn journalists and these researchers created a virtual line up and told the ai to identify my face. It works. Some of the time it says no face. It thought you were Victor Blackwell. It thought i was victor black well . Hes a black man. Yes. What does that say . These the algorithms are not ready for prime time. They need to be right not just most of the time. They need to be right virtually all the time. Kallen vicinity has helped build some of the technologies Police Departments use today. The technology is not fair to everyone. Absolutely. Standby that. At what moment did that click for you . To be quite transparent, most recently, i think i wrote the book basically out of guilt. That guilt and that book came after the Police Killing of george floyd. It explores how ai can deepen racism. Where in this process does it go wrong . It goes wrong at the data layer. Reporter because black people are heavily overrepresented in mug shot databases, which means the software is more likely to identify a person as a suspect is if that person is black. And the mostly white developers tend to use white faces when training the algorithms so the Technology Becomes skilled at matching fwhite faces but gets t wrong more often with black faces. In building the algorithm, you can teach it to be racist . You can absolutely teach the algorithm to be racist. The algorithm just want to do a good job the at the task. Youre telling it that if youre black, youre more likely to have committed the crime. Sdwl thats the data you fit in. The price of getting it wrong is costly. Its destroying lives. It could have possibly completely destroyed mine. Those ai experts i spoke with say its going to take all of us pushing on lawmakers on the Tech Companies and Law Enforcement to insist they train thesement systems correctly and set guardrails. Most importantly, that people of color are sitting a at the table when it comes to developing these softwares in the first place. Thats where it starts to go wrong. For this woman you spoke with who was pregnant to be arrested in front of her children, traumatizing for the children and for her and those can go much further. Lets talk about this confusion of your face for mine. How does that happen . No offense. None taken. You are a handsome man. But in that moment, i was astounded. Im bold. You obviously are not. No beard on you. What happened there . I spoke with the professor and asked him the same question. He said that this ai is strain trained by people who ro mostly white and asian men. The software keeps being trained over and over again. It learns to identify those faces, in particular very well, to the detriment of our faces. It could not tell our faces as well. This is what were seeing in the real world. Were seeing white male d dominated industry creating this technology, training these algorithms and they are just not doing a good job with black faces. Thank you so much for that report. Thank you. A cnn analysis found the largest credit union in the country also has the largest Racial Disparity for approval of conventional home loans. Well bring that to you, next. Navy federal cred union is the largest credit union in america. Is serves veterans and their families. Reporting shows navy federal hah also has the widest disparity in conventional mortgage approval rates between whites and blacks of any major lender. Heres rene marsh. Really the nice neighborhood. Reporter bob, an immigrant turned texas entrepreneur, knew this was his dream home the moment he saw it. Its in a highly sought after School District this his son wanted to attend for its basketball program. How many home Delirium Tremens you look at . We had about six. This was the one we all want ed. Its the largest Credit Unit Yn in the country. Im a ceo of my company. Your credit was in the 700s. You recently sold your house. You had 100,000 for the down payment, which was more than 20 . What more can you ask for . Cbs recnn reviewed the documents. He had a preapproval letter. Just two weeks before closing were going to deny. They send me a letter saying were sorry, but your application has been denied. I was shocked. Reporter the denial letter listed excessive obligations in relation to income as the reason. When they denied it, i said theres Something Else going on. What did you think that Something Else was . Discrimination. It wasnt just him. Thousands of other black applicants were also rejected according to a cnn analysis of federal Consumer Protection data last year navy federal only aproufed 48 . Thats less than half of its black applicants for conventional home mortgages. White borrowers were approved more than 75 of the time. St its the biggest gap among the top 50 lenders. The data also shows navy federal was more than twice as likely to deny black Mortgage Applicants than white ones. Even when different variables were the same. I feel validated at one point, but also i feel anger because it shouldnt be happening. Reporter two weeks after navy federal rejected him, another Bank Approved him for a mortgage. Navy federal credit union denied cnns request for an oncamera interview. In a statement it said its committed to equal Lending Practices and that cnns recent analysis does not account for major criteria required by any Financial Institution to approve a mortgage loan. That includes Credit Scores not public. We asked why the loan was denied. But they declined to comment citing member privacy. Cnns analysis does show d dramatic Racial Disparities in who they reject and approve for conventional mortgage loans. The Black White Homeownership gap and the latino white gap today are wider than they were in 19s 69. Lisa rice spent decades as a fair housing advocate. She says the disparities in the lending data are alarming and an, Treatment Example of a bigger problem. Its definitely a larger systemic issue than we know that we have a long history of redlining and a long history of lending discrimination. All of that data that is tainted with bias is being used to develop the credit scoring systems. We got the house and we moved on. But what about the ones who are denied . What about the one who is cant get their dream house . Something is going to affect this generation. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau told cnn it does not comment on specific institutions, but they do Conduct Investigations to ensure that banks and Credit Unions are following fair Lending Practices. Anyone who thinks that they might have been denied a mortgage because of their race or ethnicity should file a complaint with their local Department Of Housing And Urban Development and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Rene marsh, cnn, washington. Coming up, this weeks art is life. How an artist inspired by the faces of black children use their work to make us reflect on how society sees them. Ier this hour, i told you the story of the 10yearold arrested in mississippi, a child treated like an adult. Debra robertss is influence floounsed by the stories of black children. Or another shot in the head after ringing the wrong doorbell. She wants to remind us that they are children and we should not treat them like adults. Im debra roberts. Im in austin, texas. Im a mixed media visual artist. I use a lot of found images, cut out pieces of paper, printed paper and i take those things and create a face from that. So its like humanity makes meets humanity. Use girls wean 8 and 12. We talk about all sorts of things. Just identity politics, stereotypes, sexuality, everything. Im influenced by what happened in the news. In particular, Black Boys And Girls and how they are perceived in the world. A black childs face, thats someone they should shoot, i want them to see children as children. Dont et treat them as criminals. Any type of stereotype with black people when youre dealing with these children, allow them to have a bad day, allow them to have the laugh out loud, to live the american dream. Debra roberts shared the gallery. It runs through december 23rd. Finally today, two new teams face ing off in the Celebration Bowl right next door. This will be the 8th year of the game featuring top Football Programs at historically black colleges and universities. This year my howe pie son are going against some team in florida. Its florida a m. So congratulations to you for making it. But you know who is going to win. They are now at the Celebration Bowl making their debut. Good luck to the rattlers. But when it comes to the winner,
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