How we should use this crisis. Also chinas been taking advantage of the United States for many, many years. The Trump Administration seems headed towards a cold war with china Richard Haass, a republican and adviser to three president s explains why this is a dangerous strategy. And how to live life after the lockdown. Doctor, author and new yorker staff writer, atul gawande, gives us his prescriptions, ones that have been tested and work. Finally the french have come a long way from the longfavored line let them eat cake. So what are they encouraging now . Stay tuned and find out. But first, heres my take. If anyone thought a Global Pandemic that has so far killed more than 85,000 americans who would override the countrys partisan divide, think again. It turns out that democrats are significantly more likely than republicans to believe that the pandemic is serious and follow cdc guidelines. Preliminary studies using cell phone data show people in more republican areas of the country have been moving around more than in democratic areas. This has led many to wonder why partisanship has become so strong in the u. S. That people will not listen to experts even at the risk of their own health. But theres a broader distrust that we need to understand. I recognized it while reading a book thats not about covid19 at all but shed strong light on the situation, explaining why so many people across the west, really, have rejected the establishment. Michael lynn writes the issue is not the issue, the issue is power. Social power exists in three realms, government, the economy, and the culture. Each of these three realms of social power is the site of class conflict. He argues the best way to understand America Today is through this lens of class conflict which has been sharpened by the rise of an overclass that dominates the three spheres he mentions. In all three leaders tend to be urban, College Educated professionals often with a postgraduate degree, and that makes them quite distinct from the rest of the country. Only 36 of americans have a bachelors degree. Only 13 have a masters or more. And yet the top ranks everywhere are filled with this credentialed overclass. For many nonCollege Educated people especially those living in rural areas there is a deep alienation from the new elite. They say the overclass as enacting policies that are presented as good for the whole country but really mostly benefit people from the ruling class, whose lives have gotten better over the past few decades while the rest are left behind. In this view, trade and immigration help College Educated professionals who work for Multinational Companies but hurt blue collar workers. So when they hear from the experts about the inef taibility of globalization and the need to accept it, they resist. It does not resonate with their lived experience. Lets look at the covid19 through this prism. Imagine youre an american who works with his hands a truck driver, construction worker, oil rig mechanic, and you just lost your job because of the lockdowns, as have over 36 million people. You turn on the television, you hear medical experts, academics, technocrats, journalists explain that we must keep the economy closed. In other words, we must keep you unemployed because Public Health is important. Now, all these people making the case on tv have jobs, have maintained their standards of living, in fact are now in greater demand. They feel theyre doing important work. You, on the other hand, you have lost your job. You feel a sense of worthlessness, and you are terrified about your familys daytoday survival. Is it so hard to understand why people like this might be skeptical of the experts . The covid19 divide is a class divide. The bureau of labor statistics released a report last year on the job flexibilities of u. S. Employees. Of the top 25 of income earners, more than 60 can stay home and still do their jobs. Of the bottom 25 of income earners, fewer than 10 can work from home. In the early days of the crisis, only 13 of people in households making over 100,000 were laid off or furloughed, compared to 39 in households making less than 40,000. Dr. Anthony fauci has said that he understands that maintaining these social distancing guidelines is inconvenient for many people. Theyre not just inconvenient, theyre life shattering. No one in america or elsewhere has all the knowledge to formulate the perfect formula to open up and move ahead. Even dr. Fauci acknowledged that during congressional testimony this week when he was asked whether schools should open. I dont have an easy answer to that. I just dont, he said. Situations regarding school will be very different in one region versus another. Regarding the economy he noted i dont give advice about economic things, i dont give advice about anything other than Public Health. So lets all recognize we need to hear many voices as we make these difficult decisions, and that those making the decisions need to have empathy for all americans. Those whose lives are at risk, but also those whose lives have been turned upside down in other ways by this horrible disease. To read and comment on my Washington Post column, go to cnn. Com fareed, lets get started. The people want to get on with their lives. That is what President Trump tweeted on thursday in response to a Wisconsin Court decision that effectively ended the governors lockdown there. The president wants to open quickly in opposition to some state and local Politics Around the country. My first guest, rahm emanuel, has worked everywhere from the white house to city hall, congressman of illinois, chair of the House Democratic caucus, most recently mayor of chicago. Welcome back to the show, rahm. Thank you, fareed. So how should we think about this debate . Is it time to open up . How should we open up . You know, fareed, i think thats slightly off kilter a little. The debate is not really about reopening, which is somewhat thats where the president is and other people, governors and others are coming across as reluctant or resistant. I actually think democrats and the country should be having to debate you want to reopen . I want to rebuild america. I want to actually invest in america. You have 35 million americans unemployed. What if we said to the americans in the retail sector, were going to train you, give you unemployment, well train you to become a computer coder and use this period of time or somebody in cybersecurity. Youre not going to school . Were going to rebuild our schools . Youre not driving . Well rebuild the roads. When theyre not used, we can get them done cheaper and more quicker. The president wants to be in the point of reopening. I want the democrats, speaking large, to rebuilding america. America never lost a challenge when it invested either in america or americans. When we do that, that should be the message. Right now, i think its wrong but, rahm, how do you go ahead. How do you rebuild the roads, the infrastructure, the schools if everything is closed . The point is of course there are going to be millions of americans who cant 50yearold truck driver cannot become a coder. No, well, wait a second. Ask the jcpenney plea right nem now, ask the person who used to work the desk at neiman marcus. A lot of jobs are not coming back. Rather than say theyre not coming back, which our tone has been for 40 years, i would say theres going to be a transition, well invest in you so you can succeed in that transition. I dont buy into this category, youre essential, youre not essential. We dont have a person to waste in america in the 21st century. Everybody is essential. Our goal is to invest in your essentialness to the future. To the future of this country but should these states start reopening . Thats really the question. I mean or are you saying keep them locked down and keep having the government print more money, borrow more money and pay them . First of all first of all, were going to, as the fed chair said, we have to continue to have monetary and fiscal stimulus. So were going to make this. My question is do we give you an unemployment check or do we give you an unemployment check to hold on but also retrain you so as the economy comes back, you are able to succeed in that economy. Thats the question. I actually disagree. Thats a false choice reopening or not. And the fact is the way you do it is you do it with a plan that Integrates Health care, life and livelihood. Those are our two goals, knot in opposition but collaboratively. I think its a false choice. The president wants you to say its reopen or not. Thats not the way to look at it. National crises require national leadership. There hasnt been any of that. So we basically sent a bunch of mayors and governors out and said go figure it out on your own without a narc naltional pl. Never met a National Crisis without a National Plan or succeeded without one. When kids are not in schools . Modernize the schools. When people are to the using the roads, rebuild those roads. Its more Cost Effective to do that. You cant tell me you cant go out and buildal schoo a school, community college. Construction is happening all across the country. The problem is states cant access the resources because gas taxes are nil and the federal government can take the resources and do a real rebuilding of america. Thats a missed opportunity. Someone said never allow a good crisis to go to waste. How many times have we talked about having 21st century Transportation System for a 21st century economy. This is the opportunity to rebuild america, not just to reopen it to where there are no retail jobs coming back. A good portion of the people unemployed i would also say we need more nurses. Invest in that. Dont just give people an unemployment check, give them a skill that in six months allows them to succeed in the new future. Thats what we should be doing. Let me ask you about the politics of all this. The president is making the case very explicitly lets get to something i want to talk about. The president is making the case very explicitly that joe biden is out of it. And, you know, if you look at polls, a large number of people i think i saw one that said 35 believe biden will be replaced. What is going on . What should the Biden Campaign do to allay any fears people have that the candidate may be slipping in some way . Look, ive talked to joe biden multiple times over the last two months. Ive had the same conversation with joe biden today as i did when i was chief of staff and he would come in and tell me what i needed to do up in congress to get something done and seek his advice on things. I see him there. Hes fully conscious. We talk about a whole host of subjects on the economy, on the politics of the moment, the Vice President ial selection. Ill leave it at that. I heard the same person on the phone that used to be in my office when i was xheef uas chif right next door to the Vice President s office this is a whole distraction like everything else, attacking obama, from the fact that the president of the United States failed in those first costly eight weeks. And this is also a culture of corruption that exists in President Trumps administration. Every attack on joe biden is a mirror held up to what donald trump has done. He projects that failure on to somebody else to try to neutralize what is his vulnerability. The attack on joe biden about china is about the fact that trump was on bended knee to china. We have a president whose president clorox and Vice President lysol. Give me a break. Ill take joe biden, and ive seen him energetic my phone calls are late into the night with him. If hes anything, hes got too much energy. Im the one saying, joe, i have to go. Time up. Im very confident in the capacity of the Vice President. I knew him when he was a senator, when i worked for president clinton. I knew him as a colleague in congress, chief of staff, mayor, i know him now. Hes the same person i have seen before. He is, obviously, where he is in his life, but he has the capacities to address the challenges this country has and will bring a vitality and a sense of ownership of this rather than say im not responsib responsible. All right. We have to go. Rahm emanuel, always a pleasure. Thanks, fareed. Next on gps, a doctor, bestselling author gives his prescription on how america should open up. 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So basically were a Hospital System of 75,000 people, which is more than 75 of counties in the United States populations. And like many hospitals, weve managed to avoid becoming sites of transmission. The key so that has been, you know, steps that everybody has heard about, but its recognizing each are flawed. When you put them together, sort of like a drug cocktail, its a combination therapy, it with be very effective. The four elements, hygiene, in addition to social distancing, thats number two. Number three, symptom screening. Every time i go into work im asked i go to a website on my phone. I fill out a form that says do i have any of the symptoms of covid19 . It can be as simple as do i have a sore throat . Do i have a runny nose . Not just fever. Fever is present less than 40 of the time when symptoms start. So, you know, if i have a runny nose, if i had a symptom, i should be staying home. Thats critical. If i say no symptoms, i get a green pass to go in. If i indicate i have that runny nose, then i stay home, and i get set up for testing. And, you know, 90 of us will end up screening out, hey, it was just a cold or whatever. Its not coronavirus. But out of 50,000 people that were at the workplace in the last month, 11,000 of us had those symptoms, 1400, over 10 turned out to have coronavirus. And we avoided going in and infecting people. So thats thats a critical element. We have to table thke that seri. Then theres masks. Masks deal with the fact that theres people about half or more of the spread is from people who dont have symptoms. And those people who dont have symptoms, they were wearing a mask and that prevents them from spreading to others. A term we know now that respiratory droplets can spread, not only when you sneeze or cough. Sneezing is the most likely to spread. But even just talking. Loud talking spreads more droplets that can contain virus than soft talking. Wearing a mask ends up blocking those droplets. So, when you talk about this, you also mention that you are really being rigorous, the hand washing, mask wearing, social distancing, the six feet. You pointed out, for example, we should be washing our hands maybe five times a day. You say that even ten times a day is actually almost ideal. Yeah. Each of these have elements we dont talk enough about. We talk about we should reopen, reopen. Lets talk about what it takes to be really good at entering without infecting one another. The one example is hand washing moor than ten times a day cuts the likelihood that you will get infected by half. And at least thats what turned out in the sars end and pidemic seems likely to apply here. What does that mean . Any time y