Jerusalem, which both sides claim. I will talk to the mayor of jerusalem to find out, is there a solution . Also, a new u. N. Report. The most exhaustive yet about Climate Change. Well talk to tom friedman to tell us what the world and the United States needs to do now. And the great Anthony Bourdain will take us to russia and india and other places. Well talk about politics and food, of course. But first heres my take. Russias aggression in ukraine has had the effect in unifying the western dmok raeemocraciede least in their robust condemnation of the nation. One sees a variety of responses which shadows the great u. N. Tension between global norms and National Interests. Consider the response of the worlds most populist democracy, india. New delhi was mostly silent through march, refused to support anything to do with russia and declared that russia had legitimate interest in ukraine, all which led Vladimir Putin to place a thank you call to the prime minister. Indias reaction can be explained by deep ties with russia. Between 2009 and 2013, 38 of major weapons exported from russia went to india. More than any other country and more than triple the second country, china, at 12 . Between 2009 and 13, 75 of the major weapon systems imported to india came from russia. Just 7 came from the United States. Over the same period, russia delivered to india an Aircraft Carrier and a nuclearpowered submarine, the only one in the world exported in those years. More curious has been the reaction of the most proamerican country on the planet, israel. The country which has tended to support almost all American Foreign policy issues have determined not to do so on this issue. Prime minister netanyahu was uncharacteristically circumspect. I hope its resolved quickly, amicably, but i have enough on my plate which is quite full. Lieberman was more explicit saying he didnt want to defend america or russia, treating them equally. Officials said privately they didnt want to alienate russia because they need them to deal with threats mainly from iran but also those emanating from the syria civil war. But there are also those that say egypt can formulate a special relationship with moscow, fueled by the hundreds of russian jews what emigrated to russia. When they meet, they speak in russian, which is liebermans first language. China, perhaps less surprisingly, was also less willing to condemn or sanction russia. But its position is more nuanced, emphasizing its support for the independent sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. Now, one could argue that in all these cases, the countries are misreading what is actually in their National Interests. China shares a long border with russia and should not want to support moscow just to adjust these borders by force. It would be foolish for israel to compromise its relations with its closest ally, america, for delusions with moscow. The fact that lieberman speaks russian has not stopped moscow from shipping arms to iran, syria and hezbollah through syria. India should want to make a closer relationship with washington as it forges a relationship with china. But do these countries want to live in a world ruled entirely by the interplay of National Interests . Since 1945, there have been increasing efforts to put in place some broader, global norms, for example, against annexations by force. These have not always been honored, but compared with the past, they have helped shape a more peaceful and prosperous world. Over the next decade or so, as new powers rise, these norms will either be strengthened or eroded. And that will make the difference between war and peace in the 21st century. For more go to cnn. Com fareed and read my Washington Post column. And lets get started. The sun will soon set on a tumultuous day in Eastern Ukraine. Today as in recent days a pattern has emerged in this area that borders russia. In city after city, Police Buildings and city halls have been stormed by militants, taken over and declared to be a breakaway peoples republic. Were joined by Eastern Ukraine, and hes just back from visiting the locations of some of these takeovers. Nick, it seemed as though things were calming down in the middle of the week, but now it appears as though this agitation for an independent Eastern Ukraine are heating up again. What are you seeing . Reporter a remarkable change in the last 36 hours, fareed. From what seemed like a stalemate to now, which is a march, it veeseems, on a lot of cities. They form a circle where im standing. We just came back from slavansk where there is a bunch of militants taking over the security building. They were launching an antiterror operation to clear them out. That has clearly failed. We went back later on to discover the city really reinforcing its barricades. Russian gunmen still in place. And the sense of people going about their daily business as normal, despite the interior minister warning them to stay indoors. Another building we went to in another city, that was a police station. That was stormed last night by prorussian militants. That was under protest on the protester control. A lot is changing here very fast, and it seems a little like crimea, backed up by prorussian protests. Things changing very fast here, fareed. Nick, very quickly, we just have a few seconds left. Do you believe that russia is behind this . Do you have a sense of how that stands . Reporter its very hard to tell. You cant tell from the accents of the russians exactly where they come from. There is a lot of good equipment in the hands of these prorussians. The u. S. State department made it quite clear they think the crimea tactics, apparently even soldiers are being used here in Eastern Ukraine. Its unclear, but frankly there is a lot of coordination here, a lot of organization, and that will be hard for local activists to pull it off in a matter of weeks. Fareed . Thank you, nick. Fantastic reporting. So glad to have you here. How is this situation going to get resolved . Yesterday secretary of state john kerry warned his russian counterpart about russian actions and the consequences that would stem from them. But are the russians listening . Joining me now is bruzheski. Does it appear to you that this is a concerted effort to actually get russia and ukraine to declare independence, or do you think theyre trying to create a situation where the russians have negotiating power to try to broker some kind of deal with autonomy . I think a striking similarity between what is happening right now and what happened a few weeks ago in crimea speaks for itself. Look, a bunch of thugs appeared dressed in strange, mafialike uniforms without any National Identity but looking sternly, strikingly similar to those who happened to be in crimea now are pulling off a stunt stunt in quotation marks in a number of Eastern Ukraine cities, while russia is claiming at the same time the population there is rising. What russia is trying to do is establish whether it can ceasei that territory without too much resistance and there are claim it seceded from ukraine on its own. Or if there is resistance to move the forces which have been martialed on the front range of cri crimea. Were challenging the norms and stability, challenging what is not to be dependent on the use of force. This is now a challenge for the International Community, not just ukraine. Ukraine cannot really survive without Eastern Ukraine, which is the source of much of its heavy industry and mining. So do you believe if something of the nature that youre outlining does happen that the west will be able to do more . There has been reluctance in europe to do Something Like an energy ban because, of course, the europeans are very dependent on russia for energy. Well, first of all, a lot depends on what the ukranians do themselves. They dont resist, as they didnt in crimea. Then obviously the International Community is not going to be excessivily energetic in supporting, in effect, defeated ukranians. If they decide to resist, theyll probably be losing step by step, but if the resistance is sustained, i think the west, whether it likes it or not at the moment, will be increasingly under International Pressure to provide assistance to the ukranians. Not directly by troops, but by arms. And i say, frankly, that, of course, may become really necessary and we should not shia way from it. Fareed, think what happened in vietnam. We lost thousands and thousands of men to the vietnamese. But who armed the vietnamese over and over again . The russians. They didnt mind because they thought that was in their International Interest and they were not directly involved. I think we should be no less active. If the ukraines resist, we should help them. If we can tell them that in advance, theyre more likely to resist. If the russians know the ukraines will resist, theyll think twice about starting a large adventure. Theyre counting on it being peaceful, effective, and in effect, absolutely decisive. Very quickly because we have about 15 seconds left. Do you think president obama is on the right course right now, so far as you can tell . I dont know whats being said privately. I think it should be part of the private message that the ukranians would take seriously, the russians would know about it, but we wouldnt be trying to humiliate the russians and we should be offering the russians a deal, whereby ukraine is free to associate itself with the european union, but a free ukraine also has a normal relationship with russia and we both participate in providing kind of a finish, finland like solution to the ukraine problem. Fascinating insight. Zbig, thank you so much. We will be right back with more. When folks in the lower 48 think about what they get from alaska, they think salmon and energy. But the energy bp produces up here creates Something Else as well jobs all over america. Thousands of people here in alaska are working to safely produce more energy. But thats just the start. To produce more from existing wells, we need advanced technology. That means hitech jobs in california and colorado. The oil moves through one of the Worlds Largest pipelines. 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How would you divide the city, can it be divided because the palestinians say they need a capital, east enginejerusalem m the capital of israel. Is there a solution . Let me take you back several years. Jerusalem is the capital of the world, the temple of the middle, and it was never divided among the tribes. But everyone was welcome to come to the city of jerusalem. It is a city respecting all people, residents, visitors, and jerusalem has a role to play. And that dna of the past, thats how jerusalem functioned for a thousand years, is our future. It cannot be divided. Our role is to open up and enable people who come to the city of jerusalem to have freedom of religion that has not existed for 2 thours yea,000 ye. If you walk the streets of jerusalem, the jews manage the jewish sites, the muslims manage the muslim sites. But what do you say to the palestinian, yes, you have your capital. If we have our state, we have to have our capital. There are solutions to that, but there is not a solution of dividing the city of jerusalem. It will never function. Its against the dna of the city. By the way, there is not one example of a city in the world that ever got split and became functional. What are the solutions . I leave that for the national government. You can call allah the center of the palestinian people, they can bring their embassy to jerusalem. Today they have freedom of religion, freedom of movement. Today jerusalem is an open city, and its doing very well. If you look at the trends in the city of jerusalem, our economy has been growing 8 from year to year. Satisfaction of all residents, muslims, christians, orthodox, secular, otherwise. Our crime rates are. 1 the fraction of other cities. I know im 10 more exposed to crimes in the United States than i am back home in jerusalem. All of that, the economy going north, crime rates going south, all of that, we must be doing something right. For you the arab neighborhoods of East Jerusalem, which is where the palestinians would like to put their state, you think it would not be possible to have a palestinian capital. A very clear no. Im committed to serve all my residents, the muslim, the christian, the jewish residents. For me theyre all the same. Thats what the jewish tradition, the jewish bible says. You have to treat everyone equally, and thats cannotexactt were doing. There are gaps to close on the arab neighborhoods, the jewish neighborhoods, and im committed to closing those gaps. Ive never met a palestinian negotiator who would accept that position, that they cannot have a capital in part of jerusalem. Does that mean peace is unlikely . I think its a demand that has to be off the table, because whoever raises such a demand doesnt understand the importance of the city of jerusalem as a united city. And unfortunately, sometimes i feel that israel does not have a partner to negotiate with because the charter of, unfortunately, many of the palestinians and our neighbors is to destroy israel. And when somebody wants to destroy israel, sometimes we feel that this is a salami style negotiations. Lets take a piece now and then well argue about the rest. The whole concept of negotiating with the palestinians has to take another route. They have to understand that jerusalem will never function as, god forbid, a divided city. That was mayor barkat, the mayor of jerusalem. Coming up, Anthony Bourdain has been around the world again. And he will share with me his thoughts from Vladimir Putin in the west to becoming a vegetarian. Up next, what would you think if president obama had dick cheney arrested . The analog of that just happened in china. I will explain. Eful place. Its so full of life. A place where the artisic beat of the big city, but the flavor of a Traditional Mexican town. 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