Transcripts For CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront 20190311 : compar

Transcripts For CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront 20190311

Trump, telling the washington pos post, quote, impeachment is so zw divisive to the country that unless theres something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, i dont think we should go down that path because it divides the country. And hes just not worth it. Not worth it. Even though she also told the Washington Post that she thinks President Trump is ethically unfit, intellectually unfit, curiositywise unfit. No, i dont think hes fit to be president of the United States. So lets just summarize here. She thinks all of thoese things but she thinks he should remain president. This could be the moment, the moment the Democratic Party thinks, because this is what some other democrats are saying. Were going to go in there, were going to impeach the mother [ bleep ]. I believe that we have everything that it needs to basically impeach him. I believe that. We wont be having these conversations on whether to do it, but its going to be when and how. Moments after pelosis comments were made public tonight, the man who has made impeachment his calling, who has spent millions to get other democrats onboard, Billionaire Tom Steyer released a statement that reads in part, is doing whats right worth it . Or shall america just stop fighting for our principles and do whats politically convenient . So why is nancy pelosi doing this right now . Well, it might be because she just rewatched this. A resolution impeaching William Jefferson clinton, president of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors. The impeachment of president bill clinton in december of 98. Clinton not only survived those impeachment hearings, he thrived. A cnn poll at the time found clintons Approval Rating jumped ten points after the house voted to impeach him. So lets be clear, three days before impeachment, clintons Approval Rating was 63 . A day after, 73. An alltime high. A surge. And at the same time, the unfavorable view of the Republican Party, which, of course, led the impeachment proceedings, also jumped ten points. And the price was not just in the shortterm polls. The next election, republicans lost seats in the house and bill clinton cruised to reelection. Pelosi doesnt want to repeat history. Phil mattingly is outfront live on capitol hill. Phil, look, this is not going to go over well with a whole lot of passionate and outspoken democrats. Reporter yeah, theres no question about it, erin. There are a number of democrats who ran on impeachment. Certainly the grassroots of the Democratic Party has been urging impeachment, even though its only two, three months into the democratic majority. But theres a couple of things here, and you laid out quite nicely one key component of it. And one is the political reality. Theres a recognition, and Speaker Pelosi says this in the interview, that basically, as of now, where things stand, this would only serve to divide the country in her view of things. Theres also a recognition of numbers. While the house can pass a resolution on a simple majority, the senate would need at least 20 republicans to join all 47 democrats to be able to move it through, something that no one thinks is even possible. And thats what more than anything else that Speaker Pelosi has pointed to. Dont do it just because the house can pass it, only move forward with it if you can believe it can actually come to fruition or theres an actual end game there. The other thing, and i think this is important to keep in mind, when im talking to senior democrats over in the house a short time ago, several made this point, its not just the progressives in the Democratic Caucus right now. There are several many, many moderate members who are essentially the reason why pelosi is now speaker of the house once again who dont want to deal with this issue. Dont necessarily want to go home and answer questions for this issue. There are chairman who are now just launching investigations into the Trump Administration who dont want to be rushed in those investigations. As one senior democratic lawmaker told me just a short time ago, Speaker Pelosi is running cover. She will basically saying, i will take the hits for this and give the rest of the caucus the opportunity to be able to avoid the question for the time to come. Theres no question theres going to be tremendous pressure to start to move forward on something, but at least at this point in time, Speaker Pelosi is making very clear, impeachment is not on her agenda, its not on the partys agenda. And for the time being, theyre going to focus on the investigations and continue doing their legislative work, not moving forward on impeachment, erin. Thank you very much, phil. And i want to go outfront now to democratic congressman john yarmouth. And i appreciate your time. Congressman, you were among the group of democrats, you had introduced articles of impeachment in november of 2017 for President Trump. So youve already introduced articles yourself. Youve said repeatedly that President Trump has committed impeachable offenses. Whats your response to Speaker Pelosi saying, its not worth it . Well, with you know, i think theres a lot of validity in what nancy i said. And i respect that, and ultimately, its going to be her call. I just think that i have a little bit different perspective that if you think the president has committed impeachable offenses, which i do, and most recently, i think its been at least documented that he committed a crime while in office, that impeachment Means Nothing if you dont use the power and begin the process. So, to me, its not a question of whether, its a question of when. And probably right now is not the right time, but i think at some point, its going to be inevitable. Okay, so let me just be clear. So youre saying, you think he should be impeached and you think that there have been crimes committed that would rise to that bar, right . Youre making that very clear, but youre saying, not now. Why not now . If its a matter of principle and you already have what you need, then why would you way . Well, i think there are these other investigations going on. I think if you were a prosecutor, im not a prosecutor, but if you were, you would want to have all the Information Available to you to make the case. I think theres plenty of information already, but some dont. And we still would want to have a process where even if we cant convict the president on impeachment, we at least are able to get an impeachment resolution passed in the house. So i understand why we should wait for a lot of these investigations to take their course, but, again, i think its a question of when, not whether. Okay. With president bill clinton, d right, and the numbers that i just laid out, i dont know if you heard them, but basically i was just showing you his Approval Rating jumped ten points in a matter of three or four days, before if Impeachment Vote and then after when he was impeached. It was good for him. And it was good for him because who knows why, but because it looked political, right . It looked completely political. Because you couldnt get democrats onboard. Youre in the same situation right now. Youre not going to get republicans onboard. Its not even going to be close in the senate at this point. Right. So do you think that she has a point . You might actually be helping the president by impeaching him in the house . I think she does have a point. Again, i believe that the impeachment power is in the constitution for a reason. And if we dont use it, then it becomes meaningless, particularly when you have a president whos committed crimes while in office, who has abused the power of his office, and many other reasons why i think hes committed impeachable offenses. So, i think shes absolutely totally right. And i think that affects timing. But i dont think it can be a political decision or a political calculation. I think it has to be a Constitutional Recognition of a constitutional responsibility. Okay, so it sounds like what youre saying is theres already enough there, but youll try to get enough more, right, that you can get republicans onboard. That we have enough democrats onboard. Okay. So we would still have to have 2018 democrats vote for an impeachment resolution. Im not sure were there yet. Okay, so you think you need to do more to get democrats. Bipt to but i want to be clear, you dont buy this whole bipartisan basis because she uses the word bipartisan specifically. Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless theres something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan i dont know what it would take to get something to get those 20 senators onboard. I dont know if you know what it will take. No, i dont either. And i know we cant get any republican votes in the house, so but again, i just keep coming back to the fact that impeachments there for a reason and i was a staffer here on the hill during the nixon impeachment process and remember it very, very well. And its there for a situation like this. I mean, the analogies between the nixon situation and now are very real. But just to be clear, you believe and you will support going ahead with this, even if it isnt bipartisan, which would put you at odds with the speaker. Well, you have to understand, the process, so the Judiciary Committee holds hearings on an impeachment resolution. They gather evidence and hold hearings. Thats the first phase of it. And then if they decide to have enough, they vote on articles of impeachment. I think the process actually probably has begun with the investigations that the Judiciary Committee has initiated. So i think were actually on a course and whether we get to the point where there are enough democratic votes or enough votes to get a majority in the house, i dont know. I dont know when that will be. But i think we need to begin the process. All right. And i want to ask you before you go, youre also the chairman of the house budget committee, which is obviously an important position, given that weve gotten a budget today. The president releasing his 2020 proposal. He asked for 8. 6 billion for the wall. Of course, hes already declaring a National Emergency that will get caught up in the courts, but nonetheless, he was going to get money that way. But now hes asking again. The last time he asked, he got a shutdown. Is this going to cause another shutdown . Ultimately, it could. My cokentucky legislator Mitch Mcconnell said once, you dont learn anything from the second kick of a mule. Apparently, donald trump wants to get that second kick. Maybe it will take that to make him learn hes not going to get the funding he wants for the border wall. If he wants to precipitate another shutdown as he did in december, then we cant do much about that. Were going to proceed with trying to fund the government for the next two years. Thats what our responsibility is. Again, its a battle weve already fought, he lost, and he would lose again. So its up to him what ramifications come from that. All right. Thank you very much, congressman yarmouth, i appreciate your time tonight. Absolutely. And next, why cant the White House Press secretary, Sarah Sanders, answer a question that is sort of absurd . Yes or no, does the president truly believe that democrats hate jews . I am not going to comment. All right, plus, President Trump claims Michael Cohen asked him directly for a pardon. So why wont the white house give the evidence . This should be pretty easy. 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Get a portfolio that works for you now and as your needs change from Td Ameritrade investment management. New tonight, sanders sidesteps. White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders today refusing to confirm or deny an axios report that the president told donors that, quote, democrats hate jewish people. Heres one exchange. Does the president truly believe that democrats hate jews . Uh, i am not going to comment on a potential leaked [ inaudible ] that democrats hate jewish people as he said on the south lawn today . I think theyve had a lot of opportunities over the last few weeks to condemn some abhorrent comments im trying to answer, if you would stop talking, ill finish my statement. Just yes or no. The president has had and laid out clearly his position on this matter. Democrats have had a number of opportunities to condemn specific comments and have refused to do that. Thats a question, with frafran should ask democrats, what their position is, since theyre unwilling to call it what it is and call it out by name and take members against members who have done things like this, like the republicans have done when they had the same opportunity. It kind of was a strange thing. And honestly, its like, these are the moments where youre like, i cant believe were asking the press secretary of the United States if the president said democrats hate jewish people. But according to axios, he said it. And by the way, heres what we know he said publicly, can i just remind everybody what why this is so realistic. The democrats have become an antiisrael party, theyve become an antijewish party. And thats too bad. Okay. So from antijewish to hate jewish people, not a big step to make when youre in a room where everybody agrees with you, you think. Outfront now, rob astorino and keith boykin, democratic strategist. Okay, keith, so if you buy it . I mean, she wont answer this. Shes dancing around the issue. Well, if she knew that trump didnt say it, then she would have said that. So i think her nondenial is a statement in itself. Its a reflection of the continued divisiveness, divisiveness from the president. Its also ridiculous, considering democrats consistently do perform well with the jewish community. 70 in president ial elections routinely, 71 for hillary clinton. Every member of the United States senate that is jewish is a democrat. All but two jewish members of the house of representatives are democrats. The democrats are not the problem. Really, the problem is the Republican Party. Donald trump is out there saying offensive things and the Republican Party members are saying offensive things repeatedly, including about charlottesville, most notably. The idea that when neonazi are marching, saying jews will not replace us, and the president says, theyre very fine people, that is a party that has a problem with antisemitism. All right, well, how do you explain Louis Farrakhan . Louis farrakhan is not a member of the Democratic Party. Hes not even a part of this discussion. Im drawing the same parallel. The Congressional Black Caucus routinely consults with him. You have Maxine Waters and others taking pictures with him. And no one will condemn him and he is the biggest antisemite and has used extraordinarily hateful language if this is the best youve got, this is ridiculous. I will personally condemn Louis Farrakhan as an antisemite if that gets you to theres a growing problem donald trump is the one thats been repeatedly antisemitic. Come on remember when donald trump went to the Republican Jewish Coalition and he said, you probably wont support me beca

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