Smoking gun . And will we, the American People, see muellers report . Today, President Trump tried to act like its all fine, its all fine. He doesnt care. Should the Mueller Report be released next week . That will be totally up to the new attorney general. Hes a tremendous man. A tremendous person who really respects this country and respects the Justice Department. So that will be totally up to him. The new attorney the new attorney general. Yes. Will the word, tremendous, work . The president today choosing to kiss up to his new attorney general because bill barr does hold the Mueller Reports face in his hands and President Trump knows it. For once he chose not to demean, diminish, insult, you know, otherwise slam the investigation because keep in mind, since it began, 644 days ago, President Trump has attacked muellers investigation about 1,100 times, which adds up, obviously, on average to about twice a day. And, you know, you know the words, which hunt quwitch hun hoax. All of that. Of course, no matter what your politics, that is false. It is not a witch hunt because you need to look at the numbers to know that. Muellers investigation has resulted in 199 criminal counts. 37 people and companies have been charged. Seven have pleaded guilty. Four people have been sent to prison. Those are the facts. And this all comes as former acting fbi director Andrew Mccabe dropped a bombshell coming right on the eve of this news. Claiming it is possible that President Trump is a russian asset. Do you still believe the president could be a russian asset . I think its possible. I think its why we started our investigation. And im really anxious to see where director mueller concludes that. Its possible . That is a remarkable statement for a top intelligence official to make. Were talking about a sitting president of the United States of america. And heres the thing. The former cia director john brennan says that when it comes to russia, oftentimes, people dont even realize theyre being played by putin. Individuals who go along the treasonous path do not even realize theyre along that path until it gets to be a bit too late. Long paths, well, President Trump has had a long history with russia. It goes all the way back to at least 1987 when moscow expressed interest in a deal with trump. Trump actually wrote about it in art of the deal. So he writes about the year 1987, on july 4th i flew to moscow. It was an extraordinary experience. We toured a half dozen potential sites for a hotel including several near red square. We stayed in lenins suite at the National Hotel and impressed with the ambition of the soviet officials to make a deal. That was the trip, july 4th in moscow. When he returned, trump spent nearly 100,000, these are 1987 dollars, okay, 100,000 to place fullpage ads in the new york times, the washington post, and the boston globe. The ad said in part, an open letter from donald j. Trump on why america should stop paying to defend countries that can afford to defend themselves. And of course, that wasnt just his position which, you know, suddenly he decided he was going to make public in these ads in the major newspapers in this country. That was russias open and ardent position at the time. Nearly 32 years later, trump is still repeating some russian talking points like on meddling. I believe that president putin really feels, and he feels strongly, that he did not meddle l in our election. I will tell you that president putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. So will mueller conclude trump was an asset of putin or not . We may find out very soon. Evan perez is outfront live in washington. And, evan, you know, it is amazing, after so much talking, so many filings, so many charges, right, people going to prison, here we finally might be on the eve of this being done. What are you learning about the release of muellers report tonight . Thats right, erin. The end is near, it appears. We expect in the next week or so that the attorney general will announce that hes received notice from mueller that the investigation is over. And then hell review the findings and decide what exactly hes going to tell members of congress, what hes going to tell the public, if anything, about the mueller findings. Now, what he says to congress could vary. Right . Because he made no promises about releasing the entire report. Instead, what he says hes going to do is see confidential report, which is all the regulations for the Justice Department require, then decide what to release. Now, obviously, theres a lot of pressure from members of congress. You heard from some of that from some of those members of congress during the time that bill barr was getting confirmed. They want to see everything. Bipartisan effort to try to put legislation to require that. But one of the things thats guiding Justice Department officials is that they dont want to do a repeat of james comey, which if you remember in 2016, he stood up there, did a press conference. He said there were no charges to be filed against Hillary Clinton but then spent several minutes afterwards describing all of the things that she did wrong. They do not want to do that again. So the question is, you know, if there are no charges against certain people, will the Mueller Report say exactly what they did find and why they didnt bring those charges . We dont expect that thats going to be made public. So one other thing that we should take note of this, erin, is that just because mule ellem done doesnt mean this is all over. Prosecutors in new york that are investigating the inauguration and there are other parts of this investigation that are living on, u. S. Attorneys offices here in washington and elsewhere. All right, thank you very much, evan. As evan points out, when you follow the money, this may be just the beginning of what matters most. Outfront now, former cia chief of russia operations steve hall. Former assistant secretary for the department of Homeland Security under president obama, juliette kayyem. And former federal prosecutor shan lu. And former democratic member of the Los Angeles City council, jack weiss. Thanks to all. Jack, could there be a smoking gun in here for President Trump or not . Look, i think the only stuff thats in this report for trump is bad. And what were going to find out some time in the next few weeks is who bill barr thinks hes working for. Is he working for history or is he working for the trump family . Does he want to go down in history as Elliot Richardson did or does he want to be remembered as one like John Mitchell or devin nunes . Theres nothing in this report thats going to exonerate trump. And remember, the trump the report is not the end of the matter. Its hardly a bold prediction to say that once the report, whatever it is, makes it to congress, congress is going to open impeachment proceedings. By the way, they can take new evidence when they begin those proceedings. So the report is going to be bad for trump. Its going to signal a new process for trump. And were going to know really soon what bill barr is made of. Steve, could there be a smoking gun . Erin, i wouldnt rule out anything. I mean, its certainly possible that through the course of this lengthy investigation, which we have to remember started out as a counterintelligence investigation in the fbi, that the fbi and the mueller team has uncovered certain evidence, facts, that could, indeed, be a smoking gun. Well have to see. One thing that is absolutely difficult or if not impossible to get past is all of the connective tissue that youve got between donald trump, the trump family, the trump team during the campaign, and russia. And what the investigation actually shows about that, those connections, and the motivations behind them, critically, i think is really going to decide as to how impactful and whats going to happen with the Mueller Investigation when it concludes. And juliette, shan mentions the word, impeachment. You think democrats are going to go ahead with impeachment proceedings after this, regardless. There will be nothing there to force that, to force the Jerry Nadlers of the world to go. I think thats right. Ive never been a proponent of the smoking gun theory. I mean, the idea that theres some tape of a phone call between putin and trump, to, you know, to steal the election, is just ridiculous. In some ways, we dont need a smoking gun at this stage. Enough people are in jail, enough people have pled, enough lies have been made to make sure theres clear criminal exposure for the trump family. What we have to look at the Mueller Report is, theres a report then theres different audiences. So one is going to be congress. What do they do with it, what do they do in terms of furthering an investigation, and do they look at this as basically a statement that says that the president is sufficiently compromised by russia to proceed. Theres the public and whether the public is up in arms about some of this stuff. And then, of course, there is the courts. There are grand juries meeting rite n ining rig. We dont know the subjects of the grand jury. There will be more shoes to drop across the counterintelligence, political realms. The smoking gun theory of mueller never rang true to me. Thats not how the cases unfold. I want to talk about the other possibilities, other grand juries, other possible cases. Sh shan, first, this report, as we said, what is it going to look like . So i mentioned 37 people or entities already charged, right . Four people already gone to prison. 100 criminal counts. Whats the report going to look like . You know, all of this laid out, you know, as steve is saying. Ken starr was, what, 453 pages. That would seem to be a droop in the bucket of what hes going to do. He doesnt have the same requirements as starr has. Starr had the right of Public Disclosure to a large extent. The requirements are simply he has to explain prosecution and explain Justice Department interference or limitations on it. Beyond that, its structuralist form. I do think well never see the raw data in that report. Thi i think theres no question as to who the attorney general is working for, and he has plenty of good, solid, rationales not to release anything negative. He can use that longstanding policy, no disparaging information. So i really think whats going to happen is there will be a very sanitized summary, and then the balls really going to be in Congress Court because the question is, what can they glean . They can subpoena the document. They get some of it. They can subpoena witnesses. Its going to be in their court. Its going to be pretty amazing, it seems right. You all seem to think impeachment, obviously, thats whats happening here. Steve, i want to it ask you about something i just mentioned, though. Former acting fbi director Andrew Mccabe says its possible the president of the United States could be a russian asset. Right . That directly, couldnt have been more clear. You were the head of the Moscow Bureau station. What do you think . Erin, i think theres a lot of ways that somebody like President Trump can commit treason. Need not necessarily be sort of the typical, stereotypical, you know, meeting a spy under a bridge on a foggy night in moscow. I actually doubt it would be Something Like that. You have to remember, the russians have a very Broad Spectrum of type of people that they can cooperate with in different ways, in different modes. Theyve got, you know, cooperative contacts. Theyve got trusted people. Sometimes the quote that you had from john brennan earlier was very good. Sometimes people are not even witting as to what theyre doing. But the real question that i think we have to ask is, did donald trump work and act in such a fashion that benefited russia as opposed to the United States . Theres a lot of people who think, oh, he was just trying to get a trump tower going in moscow or something to benefit himself financially, but theres a lot of things that he did that dont make any sense. Unless you were doing it for russia. Disparaging nato. Disparaging our western allies. Why would he do that unless it was in russias support . All right. That is obviously going to be the crucial question here. All of you staying with me. As the president braces for muellers report, is there another Major Investigation that could be a much bigger threat . Plus, President Trump spends the weekend venting about his director of National Intelligence. Now dan coats may be on his way out. 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Now, keep in mind, this is the same investigation that trump reportedly asked the formering aingsupporter in to oversee. Pamela brown is od ooutfront. You reported trump allies and trump, himself, are much more afraid of whats going on with the Southern District, even, than mueller. Why . Reporter yaerkeah, erin, tr and his legal team long harbored concerns, investigation by sdny investigators, may ultimately pose more dangers to trumps family, to him, his allies, than the inquiry by special Counsel Robert Mueller. Now, President Trump has said publicly that his red line for investigators is his family and money and it appears thereat sdny investigators are focusing their efforts there now that theyve completed the investigation into michael cohen, the president s former fixer, and his payments to the two women during the election. And we know sdny recently reached out to interview executives with the trump family business. Sd sdn kblr sdnys been looking into unlike the probe, the sdny investigation could last throughout trumps presidency. Thats a Sticking Point for the president and his allies. People involved in the investigation ive spoken with say the fact the Mueller Probe is ending completion, is a Welcome Development for the campaign and the white house, although they say no one is going to relax until all of the investigations, the sdny investigations, are done. Erin . All right. Thank you very much. Pam and juliette let me start you. You think that this could be the biggest threat. The president s right . According to for the president , yes. So one of the hardest things to admit with this president is where his