Doubling down on a lie. President trump trying to stoke fear and repeating without evidence that there are unknown middle easterners making their way north to the u. S. Mexico border. We should go find it. Take your camera, go into the middle youre going to find ms13, middle easterners, youre going to find everything. Sadly, it looks like mexicos police and military are unable to stop the caravan heading to the southern border of the United States. Criminals and unknown middle easterners are mixed in. Our reporters are with cameras in the middle of the kacaravan, they called the president s campaign unfounded. In fiscal year 18 the government apprehended 3,000 special interest aliens from countries such as bangladesh, pakistan, nigeria and somalia. First of all, thats important, and its important for us to know. But thats not a statement about the caravan. Second, those countries that i mentioned are not middle eastern, theyre south asia and african. The u. S. Government has apprehended 17,000 criminals illegally entering the u. S. Part of the debate we should be having. That debate should be based in fact. None of that proves there are criminals or middle easterners in this caravan. I will seal off the border before they come into this country. And ill bring out our military. Not our reserves, ill bring out our military. Sealing off the border, bringing in the military. The pentagon says its not been called by the president to bring the military to the border. The caravan is making their way to a town 1100 miles from the border. Is the president trying to bring immigration loopholes. Or is this about ginning up republican voter enthusiasm by depicting the caravan as an immediate threat. As the president has done since the first day of his president ial campaign. Theyre bringing drugs, theyre bringing crimes, theyre rapists. Her plan will import generations of terrorism, extremism and radicalism into your schools and throughout your communities. And the democrats open border policies have also allowed ms hich 13 to break into our country and drugs to pour into our streets. The murder rate in our country is the highest its been in 47 years, right . Did you know that . Crime is rising. People are scared. By the way, the murder rate is not the highest its been in 47 years. Jeff zeleny is live where President Trump is about to campaign for senator ted cruz. Has the white house offered any evidence to back up the president s claim of unknown middle easterners in the kacar n caravan. The president has just arrived here, he has not expounded on that, but we expect him to do that at the rally. Sarah sanders told reporters a short time ago, there is absolutely evidence of this, but she went on to give no evidence at all. No specific yesterdayible evidence of their being middle eastern women inside these caravans. What this is about, im told, talking to a variety of people. This is simply, look at the timing. Coming 15 days before the midterm elections. The president has been increasing this rhetoric against immigrants, hes been talking about the borders more and more. It hasnt been breaking through. This is one way the president is trying to breakthrough. Its something we saw in 2016, he was using immigration as an issue to scare some voters in the eyes of critics. That is what explains the timing of all this. As nor the president himself, hes not given any evidence at all to the fact that there are middle easterners in his view inside these caravans here. The politics of this is interesting. He is campaigning for ted cruz as you said, here in houston tonight. Not all republicans are comfortable with this language. The reason why politically speaking at least, that the voters that they are trying to reach are some of those suburban voters who are not nearly as tough on immigration as the president. Well see if President Trump talks about it in any more detail tonight. Or if he simply keeps talking about his scare tactic, i think its likely there will be a ladder, as of now, the white house has given no evidence at all to what the president said. Jake . Jeff zeleny, thanks. We have ben ferguson and joan walsh. We also have with us mark preston, senior political analyst. Ben, let me start with you, there isnt any proof that middle easterners are in this crowd of the caravan, why make the claim . I think its a bigger point the president is trying to make. We dont know all the people in this kacaravan. All the people are not people looking for asiylum and doing good things p. M. We know in this country, every day the government stopped 10 people a day in 2017 that were on terrorist lists or connected to terrorism. Thats not im sorry to interrupt. Thats not necessarily at the mexico border. Right. Anyone coming into the United States. The easiest area to come into this country illegally, and weve seen it from al qaeda, if theres ways to get into america, one of the easiest ways to do it is not on a plane. The president is going back to things that worked well for him in the election. We need to secure the border. The fact that you have 10,000 or 8,000 or 11,000 people that can make it to the u. S. And we cannot technically stop. If they touch a u. S. Official, they have one finger or one toe on our soil. Were not going to just take them, they will come across and we will release them into the population. The caravan is moving on foot, theyre hundreds of miles from the borders. The president is telling americans to be scared of this. Its the democrats fault. Every time you see a caravan or people illegally coming into our country, think of and blame the democrats. This could work, dont you think in terms of ginning up republican voter enthusiasm. It could work. The number one issue republicans list in terms of their voting in the midterms is immigration, they shouldnt stop us from saying this is a kacaravan of lies. Not only the middle easterners mixing in, thats a lie. But this notion that the democrats have anything to do with the caravan. They dont, the notion that theyre coming, these migrants are coming to commit voter fraud. We dont have a voter fraud problem in this country. We have a Voter Suppression problem. Republicans have searched and searched. The Bush Administration did a five year study of voter fraud, they found 120 cases of voter fraud, they were likely felons. Its an issue of letting people into this country who did not come here the right or appropriate way. When you have someone whos able to break into your country. Theres potential for that person to have voter fraud. Theres been no proof. Theyre advocating for immigrants to be able to register to vote. Weve seen where theyve been able to register to vote. The numbers are tiny. You dont think its going to grow . Right now, the president is getting ready to take the stage at a rally for senator ted cruz. Heres how the two of them interacted during the republican primary president ial campaign. Donald, youre a sniv elling coward and leave heidi alone. His father was with Lee Harvey Oswald prior to oswald being shot. The man cannot tell the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist. Lyin ted cruz, lies, oh, he lies. That was then. Heres how he spoke about ted cruz earlier today. What is he now . Beautiful ted, i call him texas ted. Texas ted. It just goes to show you that politics isnt necessarily based on loyalty or friendship. Its based upon expediency and situational awareness, and ted cruz is very aware that he needs the backing of donald trump specifically in texas, he does beto orourke came out of nowhere to give ted cruz a challenge. The fact that you have the president of the United States going into ruby red texas when republicans are trying to pick up seats in indiana, of wfr. Holden, tennessee. Im not shocked by cruz and trump getting together. Remember, barack obama ran radio ads that aired, Hillary Clinton cannot be trusted with Foreign Policy. Then he made her the secretary of state on Foreign Policy. He also said Hillary ClintonForeign Policy is not he also said, she will say anything to get elected. Im barack obama, vote for me. The idea that somehow this is shocking, that two republicans come together. They all do it. This is worse, though she never accused Barack Obamas father of being part of the kennedy assassination. Can we just agree on that . I understand. When you say someone has terrible Foreign Policy and then you make them secretary of state, theres hypocrisy everywhere. And you move over it and get on. Ive seen the interaction of donald trump jr. It got nasty. It was clear it was done with. The election was over, they were going to work together. Donald trump and ted cruz talk often. They talk policy a lot. Theyve become very close over the last several years, once the election was over, those two men said and ted cruz said im going to work with you on the things that matter in my state. This is all part of the emass cue lace of the gop by donald trump. You may not like the metaphor, but he goes in and makes republicans submit to him and they do. There is a game of submission going on, to have said things about his wife the way he did. To have said things about his father. And now to proudly be going into houston to save the day for ted cruz, has to be a humiliating feeling. Ted cruz asked for it. Its not they were very specific when they wanted him in here. Humiliating to have to ask. Hes not saving the day. Thats just not true. Ted cruz was doing just fine. Hes using him to gin up the base. Of course. Hes popular. Using time that could probably be better used in other i think its a message. The white house has been pretty smart about where theyve sent the president. I think they realize tonight, you get a lot of good Media Coverage when you have ted cruz and donald trump on stage at a massive crowd. This is a good optics, weaks before the election. Theres a stadium with 100,000 seats. I need a little fact check on that. Again, coming from there, if you think Donald Trumps not insanely popular in texas. I think if they would have they get bigger and bigger and bigger in texas. They could have filled the stadium if they wanted to go bigger and bigger quicker. The reason why they didnt, when you do a venue, and youre doing it from a state perspective. You go and get 100,000 and 90 show up. They didnt fill the stadium. Any politician, Hillary Clinton did it during her whole campaign. I agree. Absolutely, they all do that. The kennedys did it, im just saying, he lies about his crowds all the time. I can tell you, there was 100,000 people that were more than happy to show up tonight. They were thrilled ben, joan, mark, thank you. Out front next, john bolton telling the russians that their interference didnt have an effect on the 2000 election. How did he come to that conclusion . The saudis call out rand paul for saying the crown prince was responsible for khashoggis death. Senator paul will respond right here. The Montana Senate race, does it all come down to trump getting his revenge on john tester . Stay with us. If youre waiting patiently for a liver transplant, it could cost you your life. Its time to get out of line with upmc. At upmc, livingdonor transplants put you first. So you dont die waiting. 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National security adviser john boltsen says he told russian officials that their meddling in the 2016 election did not have an effect on the election. Speaking to our Radio Station in moscow, to the point i made to russian colleagues today, i didnt think whatever they had done in terms of meddling in the 2016 election, that they had any eknecht on it, what they have had is to sow enormous distrust of russia. Out front now, Chris Van Holland of maryland. Whats your reaction to ambassador bolton, no effect on the election . Well, jake, ambassador bolton doesnt know what hes talking about. Our intelligence agencies unanimously confirmed a couple things. The russians interfered in our election, they interfered for Hillary Clinton and they could not evaluate what kind of impact it ultimately had on our election. For john bolton to speculate it was minimal, first of all is dead wrong, and second he should not be in moscow downplaying the significance and seriousness with which we take russian interference in our elections. Especially when were just about two weeks out, right now from 2018 midterms. When it happened, and ambassador bolton was a pundit on fox. And not a member of the administration, when it happened, he said it was essentially an act of war by russia on the United States. He seems to be downplaying it. It was a total violation of our sovereignty, it undermines our democracy, and if ambassador bolton were serious about trying to stop it. He and the administration would have supported Bipartisan Legislation that we introduced called the deter act. Which would have carried strong penalties. Instead the administration did not support that. They were not serious about doing something to the threat to our democracy. I want to ask you in addition about you sitting on the budget committee. And remarks President Trump made today about tax cuts, take a listen. You said you wanted tax cuts by november 1st no, were going to be passing, were putting in a resolution, sometime in the next week or week and a half, two weeks. A resolution where. Were going to put in, were giving a middle income tax reduction of about 10 , were doing it now, for middle income people. This is not for business, this is for middle. Thats on top of the tax decrease that weve already are you signing an executive order for that . No, no, no, im going through congress. We wont have time to do the vote. Well do the vote after the election. Theyre going to put in a bill and do the vote after the electi election. 10 for middle income. Presumably the white house has reached out to you, what can you tell us about these new tax cuts . Well, we havent had a word as you heard, the president didnt realize congress was not in session. Democrats have always supported targeted middle class tax cuts. To hear the president now say he wants a middle class tax cut is a huge admission that the tax cut they just did which was 200 trillion went primarily to big corporations, ceos and millionaires and now he wants a doover, as he travels around the country, he realized that middle class and working folks arent benefiting from that tax cut. They promised there would be 4,000 in increasing in everybodys wages. Instead they spent the money on stock buy backs. Presumably this is something you could get behind, though . Wed like to provide tax relief to middle class and working americans, and pay for it by increasing the tax rates they just cut on millionaires and folks like donald trump. The results of their tax cut was to increase the debt 2 trillion. Now the republican leader is coming around and saying, what, they want to cut medicare, cut Social Security and cut medicaid. Lets not run up a 2 trillion debt by giving tax breaks to the wealthy. Lets target them forward the middle class, thats something that everybody could get behind. That would be an admission by trump and the republicans that the tax cut they just did was 2 trillion to our kids and grandkids credit card for very rich people and big corporations. We should not be doing that. I want to ask you, before you go, youre chairman of the democrat Democratic Senate oriole campaign. Were 15 days away from election day. It looks like the Democratic Party is facing more head wind. The president s job Approval Rating is up to 47 . Thats the highest mark of his time in office. I believe its higher than where obama was at this time in the midterms. Are you concerned that republicans may lose seats in the senate . No, im not concerned. And welcome back from the debate last night in florida. We have a Big Senate Race there. Bill nelson, im confident bill nelson is going to beat rick scott. Rick scott is spending gobs more money, rick scott has also been a bad governor. And were seeing that reflected in what folks are telling us in florida. Weve always said that democrats in the senate have a very difficult political map. We have 26 senate seats were defending, that being said, we see the energy on the democratic side big turnouts and the reality is, even if states that trump won, when you ask folks what they want. They want senators who are going to stand up for their state, that theyre going to be independent. And by the way, they do not like what theyre hearing from republicans who are talking about taking away protections for people with preexisting health conditions. Republicans voted to take that away. Other Republican Senate candidates are on lawsuits like the texas lawsuit that would take those protections away from folks. That is a top of mind issue for voters around the country. Appreciate your time, sir. Thanks, jake. 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