Fathers administration. Jeff zeleny is outfront in new york. We learned ivanka trump, Jared Kushner are going to move To Washington. Now, thats a pretty stunning thing, right, if you think about the fact ivanka trump said she will have no role in her fathers administration. This is a clear signal shes going to be right by her fathers side. Maybe she doesnt have a technical title. Shes staying in her job at the Trump Organization. What can you tell us . Reporter something they have to work out and sort through. Theyve already had missteps here in the first month of this Transition Meeting with the world leader, the first meeting that her father had with the Prime Minister of japan, and, but erin, its clear that they are still trying to sort through this. The american presidency is not simply set up for a family like this so theyre going to be making the rules as they go along, but we are told they are planning to move To Washington. Theyre looking for houses there at the very least. Shes going to have a key role inside the white house from a social aspect as well as a
policy aspect. Al gore, of course, was there to talk about Climate Change with her initially. So that shows that shes going to have a very Important Role in the west wing. When you talk about a social role, of course, in contrast to Melania Trump who said shes not going to be moving until the end of the year. Raises the question of ivanka playing a bigger role, perhaps, than policy. You talk about her being in on that meeting, though, with the Prime Minister of japan and also at the same time finalizing a Business Deal that would be for the Trump Organization in japan. That is something that should be raising red flags, isnt it . It certainly is raising a lot of flags and it certainly is opening them up to questions and criticism. Again, theres not a rule book for this so on one hand you have the Wall Street Journal editorial page saying he has to sell everything to avoid con fliblon fli conflicts of interest. Look, these conflicts are inherent, almost impossible to see how they will avoid all of them here. But i am told by someone whos
close to the family that she will not be attending anymore of these meetings oneonone here. That theyre simply trying to work through here. But this is going to be an ethics potential minefield, erin. Potential minefield at the least. Executive editor of cnn politics, mark preston. Jamie gangell. Phillip bump, and correspondent for the New York Times, maggie haberman. I want to talk about the incredible Al Gore Meeting because it is incredible, okay . First i want to talk about the ivanka trump situation. Moving To Washington, at least theyre looking for houses, reporting we have. Melania trump going to wait six months at least so her son can finish his year at school. Ivanka trump possibly going even earlier. How can that happen while shes at the Trump Organization . They say theres no rules but there is this rule. Common sense shows that this does not make sense. Right, but there are no rules. Remember those tax returns, they were never put out there. And the other thing that i think you have to remember, so on
twitter donald trump said that on december 15th, hes going to make a big announcement to show that theyre hes going to step away from the business. The problem is he also used an interesting phrase. He said even though its not mandated. And i think thats what youre going to see here. There are no rules. If its not the law, theyre going to be the new rules of donald trump and the kids are going to be there and hes going to be there. I think were talking about a whole new set maggie, you got the New York Times reporting that when nancy pelosi called right after the election, donald trump handed the phone to his daughter. She was in the room with the Prime Minister of japan. Sheryl sandberg from facebook, ardent Hillary Clinton supporter called ivanka trump. Al gore meeting with ivanka trump. Shes central. Shes central. You have to unpack those
different pieces, though. The Al Gore Meeting, ivanka trump wants to signal to democrats shes the reasonable person around donald trump. That helps her for her own brand, helps her basically as a bridge for her father and frankly it helps al gore to be seen doing this meeting, if were being honest. In terms of the japanese Prime Minister, that was a very specific problem especially because there was no readout or photo from the u. S. Side in terms of the media. All came from japan. I think that you are its funny, jeffs point that the presidency is not set up for a family like this is really true. We have never seen this sprawling level of entanglements and for the trumps, this sounds like im excuse making, im not at all because its severely complicated, but really after covering them for 18 months, they know no other way. They see everything as a family decision. The pick of mike pence as the v. P. Was described to me at the time and even as recently as last week as a family decision. Theyre going to have to realize that the presidency is a people decision, but i think that its not that theyre starting out on
a land grab, or on a, you know, access grab, they dont really know another way and they are going the same way the rest of us are into this brave new world. Of course, theres only one way to separate this, sell the company and put the money in the trust. Thats the only way. There is no way for the children in any way, shape or norm to be involved in the business while their father is president and not be conflicts of interest. Countries are going to do things for that company they think would reflect well in their diplomatic dealings. Thats the way its going to be even if theyre not trying to do anything untoward. Right. No, thats absolutely true. Were already seeing that with this trump hotel down the block from the white house where all these Foreign Companies foreign governments are Booking Rooms trying to show, you know, some sort of respect. Openly saying, osf course, i want to book my room announcing it. All very publicly. The question is the extent to which the trump family even wants to try and make this separation. Right . Having ivanka trump move to
washington, supposed to be running the Trump Organization based in trump tower, not supposed to have a role in the administration because of Nepotism Rules nor is her husband for the same reason. Why are you moving To Washington . The only reason youre moving To Washington is to leverage that influence. You Shouldnt Be Leveraging that influence the same time youre running the Trump Organization. Shes leveraging it with meetings like al gore. Look, people can change. Once people get in power, people who hated them then change their minds. I understand the pragmatic reality. Heres al gore today. Heres al gore a few months ago. I had a lengthy and very productive session with the President Elect. It was a sincere search for areas of common ground. Her opponent based on the ideas that he has presented would take us toward a climate catastrophe. And . I mean, okay, you know what, climate catastrophe, common ground, those things can be very
close. He is not the only person who walked into that lobby, got onto that elevator and gone up to the top floor who has said bad things about donald trump. I mean, its political pragmatism in many ways. If al gore thinks he can somehow wedge his way in because he doesnt think that donald trump has the convictions of what he said in 2012 when he described Climate Change as a hoax and it was brought on by the chinese, of course, the New York Times just a few weeks ago does an interview and says there is some connectivity, you know, to it. Al gore probably sees it i think its super important in this is two things. When you talk about the conflict of interest, Senate Democrats really blew it because they could not investigate. They do not have any power now to really use congress to go after donald trump and on the flip side, though, house and Senate Republicans are in a real tough spot right now because all of this could overshadow them trying to get things done. 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Staff member kind of looked at me and indicated that this was a gunman. Reporter edgar welch appearing in court this afternoon. According to police, welch said he had read online that the comet pingpong restaurant was harboring child sex slaifs avesh wanted to see for himself if they were there. The suspect said he was armed to help rescue them. The accusation came from this unhinged story that originated online days before the election saying that Hillary Clinton and her Campaign Chairman john podesta were operating a Child Sex Ring. The lie took root in the digital swamps of twitter and far rightwing websites. Were not covering pizzagate enough even though we covered it every day. To expose the satanism and the code words for pedophilia. Reporter october 30th, clinton hating, trump Loving Twitterer claimed a police sort said clinton was at the center of the pedophilia ring. Others latched onto this seemingly hoping it was true scouring dark corners of the web for possible clues. This is how Conspiracy Theories are threaded together. Lie by lie. Eventually, a name stuck, pizzagate and the believers started harassing the owner of the pizza place. We received many, many, many calls, but really theyre from around the world so we didnt expect anyone to come. Reporter on sunday, the suspect fired his weapon. No one was hurt. With detectives still on the scene in d. C. , pizzagate believers were already claiming this Real Development was just part of a coverup. The media is claiming that this is because of pizzagate. This is very dangerous fake news. Anybody claiming that the gunman today at comet pizza had anything to do with pizzagate is lying. Brian stelter is with me along with kayleigh mcenany, a conservative columnist. Let me start with you, that man right there, just take a second to think about he just said. The guy who went in with the gun, all right, and discharged it, he said he went in because of this story. Yes. This fake story. Right. That guy there we heard said its completely made up, the gun man was an actor. What is this . These pizzagate believers some of them today say this was all a hoax, this incident, this reallife incident at the pizza shop was all made up trying to cover up the real conspiracy. You know, nose people are not
going to be believe this report. Hopefully the vast majority of people still on planet earth can deal with the truth. I mean, heres the stunning thing, kayleigh, Michael Flynn jr. , i want to emphasize jr. , thats the new National Security, or the nominated National Security advisers son, tweeted on sunday, ill read his tweet, until pizzagate proven to be false, it will remain a story. The left seems to forget Podesta Emails and many, quote, coincidences tied to it. Thats pretty stunning, okay . I mean, this story is a lie. It is wrong. How could someone like that come out and tweet this . That this could possibly be true . Look, i dont think flynns son should be tweeting this. He should take down the tweet, but i do want to emphasize this is two degrees removed from donald trump. This is the son of the National Security adviser. This didnt come from Michael Flynn, himself. It likewise did not come from donald trump. I do think this Pizza Restaurant has a good lawsuit on their hands, but i really do want to emphasize now, though, the
extreme fringe right wing has nothing to do with mainstream right wing, just like the 9 12 9 11 truthers didnt have anything to do with the this is the fringe element of the right just like we have the fringe element of the left. Okay, you make a fair point there but theres this one problem. Sorry, naira, his fathers son, also his fathers chief of staff, his top aide. Sorry. He has a government transition email. Hes involved. General flynn tweeted on november 2nd you decide, nypd blows whistle, must read. What do you say . This is what you end up having when you start creating a culture and people who are in leadership positions with large blow horns and millions of twitter followers start saying things like the Mainstream Media is terrible. You cant believe anything you hear on tv or read in newspapers. People start to look for alternative sources of information that, frankly, arent backed up by any Investigative Reporting or any of the principles of ethical
journalism. So this is, in that sense, directly connected to donald trump and the Conspiracy Ne Theorists that surrounded him. The new white house Senior Adviser is going to be steve bannon. Breitbart is also part of the altright movement. Conspiracy theories are often featured on that website. Speaking of general flynn, i understand his son has a transition account, official government account. Certainly he should be held accountable. With the National Security adviser actually tweeting these types of Conspiracy Theories it leads to questioning his judgment and whether or not it was a joiquke, should be made cr if he thought it was a joke. People take this when people in power say things on twitter accounts, it gets taken very seriously. We certainly need to be holding our leaders accountable. Kay