Is an innocent bystander. Thank you so much for your excellent reporting. Paul, thanks to you as well for participating for all of this. Thats it for me. Thanks for watching. Erin Burnett Outfront starts now. Mixed mess ojs on immigration. He now says she not ruling anything out. Hillary clinton back ton trail speaking at a labor day event as she is taking questions from the traveling press for the First Time Since november. And the tense moment between president obama and putin. It could interfere with the u. S. Election. Lets go ooutfront. Good evening. Im pamela brown. In outfront tonight nothing
ruled out. Nine weeks from election day and donald trump appears to be changing his position again. For months he vowed to carry out mass deportation of 11 Million Immigrants here in the United States. Now he says he is not ruling anything out. Lets take a listen. A lot of republicans talked about letting people have a legal status, just being able to live here and work here. We are going to make that decision into the future. Good kwechlt im glad you asked that. That decision will be made. Our first thing is to get all of the bad element out. From what trump said in his big speech states repeatedly that the only path to legal status would be to leave the country and reapply for reentry. Youre looking live where Hillary Clinton is rallying in hampton, illinois. Clinton shot down talks that trump is trying to soften his stance saying it is clear his advisers are scrambling to try to present a new and different donald trump. The fact is there is no new or different donald trump. This as both candidates are hitting the battleground states with just 64 days until the election. Sarah murray is out front. What is the Trump Campaign saying about this apparent shift . So far the campaign has not responded to how we should read this latest adjustment to how donald trump talks about his immigration policy. His advisers have been out there for weeks sort of softening the edges of Donald Trumps policies. It was in this immigration speech that he really laid out a hard tone. Now it appears she back to softening. Donald trump muddling his
immigration stance even further today now saying a decision will come some time down the road. Well make that decision into the future. Good question. That decision will be made. Trump and his team try to win over voters in the final 64 day stretch. For those here illegally today who have seeking legal status, they will have one route and one route only, to return home and apply for reentry. And give wiggle room in dealing with unbokmedocumented imgrani immigran immigrants. They could find it difficult to throw out a family thats been here for 15 years. They have two of whom are citizens. That is not the kind of america he wants. Once you turn off the jobs
magnet then well see where we are. And we dont know where well be. We dont know who will be left. Today in the battle gunshot wound state trump is taking advantage to bring his economic argument to union leaders. I always have it sucked out of it going to mexico and other countries. His day on the trail almost resembling tradition until politicians. It is popped by a local diner and visited one of the largest fairs in the United States. What an incredible group. Thank you, everybody. Trump is betting his surest path comes from hammering his democratic opponent. She didnt have the ener zwroi go to mexico. Events the hard to pin down candidate now says he wouldnt
miss. Reporter [ inaudible question ]. I think you an obligation to do it. These are the comments we have from trump so far saying he will participate in all three of those very important debates going into the general election. You can bet the candidates will be printisprinting until they ht debate stage. And the race is on. Thanks so much. And cnn political director, david. This seems like a case of here. He definitely muddied the picture a little bit here. No doubt about that. Lets break apart sort of where we have seen the progression of donald trump. For much of the nominations he was in for mass deportation, get
everyone out. Then last week we did hear him say that he would decide on the disposition of the undocumented immigrants who are here who have not committed other crimes, sort of the good ones as he called them. While also saying that he and his saaids were saying no legal status. They will decide on the disposition later. Today he opens the door to legal status and that is now another wrinkle in trying to iron out exactly what his plan is for the 11 million or so undocumented here. So if trump stands by his comments will this hurt him with this base of those supporters . It could. Last week he was really trying to thread a needle. He was giving that sort of fire brand speech in arizona and making sure conservatives stayed with him. Opening up that little bit for the more broad general election audience saying hey, ill decide
ton good ones later. If he goes further he may have to worry about what some of those conservative hard liners on this will want from their candida candidate. And out front right now the executive director, a Hillary Clinton supporter, former donald Trump Campaign manager and is a cnn political commentator. Could you shorten your titles please . That was a mouthful. Wow. And we are off the heels of what we heard them basically say it is being perceived as a softening of his stance. Anyone here illegally would need to leave and then come back through the proper channels but
then today he said he is not ruling anything out when it comes to getting legal status. What is going on here . Look, i think they made a decision about what to do with between 11 and 16 million in the future t. First thing he said, he is going to build a wall, implement a real everify program and make sure you can control to the country. Thats the first step. The second step is finding out how many are in the country illegally. They said there are 16 Million People. We heard the government say there are 11 Million People. 5 million difference is a huge number. You have to first count how many there actually are. Listen, i think what we need to understand is the fundamental approach is bald wauild a wall,t them all. Which is to me a horrible message. Techb flipflops are pr
problematic. If you take his chief surrogate he was chief and he had a far softer tone on immigration and a pathway to legal status than he does now. I find a lot of language is very hypocritical, number one. Number two i think the fundamental difference is important. What the democratics are saying is these are individuals who are contributing positively to the American Economy and society. Lets find a pathway for them. It is for parents and dhirn and lets take care of them. It is a very important difference. There is a practical matter of all of this. How do you go about deporting 11 million or more undocumented immigrants. My question is we heard donald trump saying we have to leave the country and saying he isnt
ruling anything out. Is he trying to have it both ways here by keeping the door open . Is he trying to keep his base and try to appeal to those moderates . I think when you run for president and want to be president of the United States you have to go from campaigning into governing. He is telling the American People he has priorities. The first is getting rid of those committing crimes. Which is already happening under president obama. Right. Thats one of the things mr. Trump wants to do. You want to American People to know he has a tenpoint plan. It is important for viewers to know he has a tenpoint plan. After that he will put laws that are on the books, future laws that will be put in by the congress and then those who remain, he will come up with a decision on how to get up with them respectfully and humanely. Thats what a leader does. Thats not necessarily square. He does have this tenpoint plan. It doesnt square with what we heard Rudy Giuliani say. I think there is this perception and this confusion from some people that theres not sort of a clear message to those that arent criminals here in the u. S. I think its important that its mr. Trump. Its what this plan says. It is very clear. There is no new trump. There is no new plan. It has been a consistent plan on this illegal immigration issue. Youre shaking your head. It hasnt been consistent and clear. Thats the problem. He doesnt have an immigration plan as far as i can see. He changes his stance every day. You know, its almost as if he goes where the wind blows him, right . It is incredibly confusing. Its these faux pivots and it is the opposite of being president ial. And i would have to say, he is not talking to the immigrant community. She talking to supporters to try to soften his edges. To me thats all about sort of taking him into the general election and making his supporters feel more comfortable. She not talki he is not talking to actual immigrants. Very quickly, final word. What you have seen is he laid out a very specific plan. He will triple the number of ice officers to prevent the number one thing, build a wall, stop people from coming in and know what to do after that. All right. Thank you all. Stick with us. Up front out next. Hillary clinton slamming trump and getting a little winded along the way. Every time i think about
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again, had to excuse herself and came back. She did answer the question about it. She said she does not Pay Attention to the conspiracy theories. She says that it is just not important but that is one of the things that the Trump Campaign is already starting to take advantage of. The Campaign Manager saying as well that perhaps Hillary Clinton is allergic to the media because the media was on the plane. All right. Thank you so much. I have my panel back with me. Donald trump had been criticizing Hillary Clinton for not being out in the trail enough. You saw her out there today. She has a new press plane, answering questions on a range of issues. Did she show today she is back in full force and should it be a corn for the trump camp . I dont think it should be. Look, he has been doing that consistently. While she was hiding from the press for 275 days he was
engaging with the black community and going to mexico and leading on these issues. Secretary clinton spoke longer to you than she did the press. It is important for the American People to see that in these past two weeks in this general Election Campaign one candidate is serious about engaging in the community and the other focused on fundraising. He doesnt have a plane like clinton does. What are your so many thoughts here but ill start here. We have 64 days left until november 8th. Hillary clinton is actually in a better position than donald trump is. She has the fundraising advantage. She has a clear path, multiple paths to 270 because thats what matters in this election. So i think thats the thing to look at. And she has a superior campaign. She actually has armys on the ground in these important battleground states. Also, early voting starts very soon. It starts in North Carolina this week. You know, onethird of the general elector rat votes early, we saw it in 2008 and 2012. You have to have a Real Campaign to do that face to face organizing that actually works and to bring out your voters. She has that advantage. This is certainly a crucial stretch we are heading into, labor day and beyond. I wanted us to listen to this. He actually did a couple of interviews with Vice President joe biden as well as Hillary Clintons running mate. Here is some of what joe biden had to say about that. The truth is hillary knows its a problem and she is trying to figure out how to remedy it. My advice is talk about what do you care about and talk about it with some passion and people will see through it. Is it too late for that . No. Its not too late for that. You have to talk about the things youre passionate about. As we get closer to the actual election voters will be going to the polls thinking about the policies we care about the most, what will motivate them to pull that lever or fill in that circle. I think at that point its those policies that i think make Hillary Clinton a superior to donald trump. Its those policies i think americans will effect their lives on a daytoday basis. She gets extraordinary remarks for the work and policy that she has. Look, i commend Hillary Clinton for holding the first quasi press conference i agree with joe biden. We see two candidates who are
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