Good evening. Im kate baldwin in for erin burnett. We have breaking news. The shooter who killed two and wounded nine at a louisiana Movie Theater, we are learning stunning new details about what happened inside that theater as he opened fire. Louisiana governor bobby jindal revealed moments ago what survivors are telling him tonight. One of the surviving wounded victims played dead to stay alive. What we have learned from inside is that it appears that the shooter actually took his time and was somewhat methodical as he shot folks from the top, from the back of the theater. It appears more and more that he was planning his escape. Were learning the shooter, identified as 59yearold John Russel Houser was able to legally purchase the murder weapon a handgun, at a pawnshop. That despite documented Mental Health issues he has had in the past. Housers family is speaking out tonight. Rem houser telling cnn that he saw his deeply troubled brother one month ago. He just needed some money to continue moving on living on you know living surviving. So we gave him some. That was the last we heard of him. Hadnt heard of him in ten years prior to that and hadnt heard from him since. This was a complete shock. Anna, a lot of new details coming out from police and officials there. Reporter thats right. Were learning that the gunman entered the theater through the front lobby doors and with him he had this highpoint. 40 caliber semiautomatic handgun. After he opened fire shooting nearly a dozen people then he tried to escape through a side exit door near where his car was parked. Police were already moving in. So he turned and went back inside turning the gun on himself. Tonight, were learning a lot more about who this shooter was. But his motive remains a mystery. 7 30 p. M. 20 minutes into a screening, 59yearold John Russel Houser in the second to last row of a Movie Theater in lafayette, louisiana, stands up raises a hundredandgun and opens fire. Mayci breaux and her boyfriend are in front of the shooter. He stood up and began shooting. Reporter breaux is killed. Her boyfriend wounded. Houser gets off 13 rounds before heading for the exit. He makes it outside but Police Responding in less than a minute are closing in. Houser goes back inside and shoots himself in the head. Taken to a hospital, 33yearold Jillian Johnson dies a short time later. Nine others are shot and wounded. Houser arrived in lafayette weeks ago. He was staying at a nearby motel. It appears he carefully planned a getaway. We found wigs and glasses and disguises basically in his room. His vehicle had a switched license tag on it. It was parked right outside an exit door of the theater. Reporter houser nicknamed rusty, spent parts of his life in gormeorgia and alabama. He got a law degree ran for tax commissioner a job his father held. Then went on to own two bars. Hanging a swastika. He had a criminal record that included arson. He was a rabl rouser. Often racist and homophobic spouting antigovernment extremist. So extreme that houser was tracked by the Southern Poverty Law Center an organization that tracks hate groups. They released postings they claim were written by houser in recent years. Hitler is loved and the u. S. Is history, financially failing filth farm. Housers exwife filed aid protective order against him in 2008. He was committed to a mental facility. His wife citing his volatile mental state. Then theres this ironic posting written in 2013. Truth carries with it an understanding of death, rather than live without it, i will take death. Now investigators say they are still trying to retrace his steps. They are interviewing who he may have had contact with since he came to lafayette back on july 2nd or 3rd they say. He may have talked about potential business opportunities. They dont know why he chose lafayette. Of course, there is no clue as to what set him off on this rampage. Five people remain hospitalized tonight. Thank you so much. With us tonight is bobby peters. He was the mayor of columbus georgia, when john houser lived there. Thank you for your time. You were very familiar with this man. He was also known as rusty around town. Tell us about him. Well first of all, our hearts go out to the victims in this and to the family of mr. Houser. He comes from a good family. His dad was the tax commissioner here. Very loved individual for many years. Rusty, in the early years, was always active in city council and involved with issues at Public Forums and seemed to be wanted to be the voice for the citizens the champion of a cause. Had a lot of dreams about what he wanted to do in early years. This is nothing like we had seen back in the 90s and the late 80s. You talk about the Council Meetings. He would show up regularly. You said he would go off on rants. What would he say . What were the rants about . He would pick an issue. Local issues change every week. But he would find an issue, get on the agenda and have his facts laid out and present his case and go on talk shows and forums and he didnt trust government. He thought government was always operating behind the scenes and was not doing what we should be doing. He was always challenging officials. The same time he came from a political family. He wanted to be an elected official. Its kind of a dichotomy there with his actions. You were seeing an image that he put a swastika on a bar or restaurant he owned. At the Council Meetings i want to ask you about one situation in particular. You said he would get confront confrontational and one instance arguing with an attorney who was representing Movie Theaters. That takes on a different significance now. What was that confrontation about . Well he was against pornography. At least thats what he stated at the time. The local attorney represented a theater, peep show owner. They had a confrontation back and forth. He was very much against that the water works, the school board. He had issues with the school board. He was very articulate. He was an intelligent individual. He wasnt cussing. He wasnt antagonistic. He presented his case. He wanted to be a lawyer. If you look at the pattern, he wanted to be a lawyer he wanted to be a nightclub owner, wasnted to be an elected official. Over a period of time were talking about the 80s and then through the 90s because i left the Mayors Office in 2002 and had not had much contact with him since then. If you look at the pattern, he had all these dreams and they kept falling apart. It comes to a situation like this. A lot of people have dreams they want to be lawyers, attorneys, they want to be elected officials and they dont end up like this. Shooting and killing in a packed theater. I totally agree. Aboutsolutely not. Was he always like this . Do you think he became extreme over time . I think in his early years, he was kind of falling into his dads footsteps. He was respected here very much. Things just did not work out over a period of time. If you look at the entire pattern, yes, you can see a very erratic person doing a lot of irrational things. You cant put it a rational decision from an irrational person which is hard to predict. If you looked at his pattern, he wanted to be involved in government. At the same time he thought government was contrary to the citizens that he wanted to represent. He wanted to be their voice, i guess, is the best way of putting it. Confusing no matter how you put it. No justification. From 2002 on he went totally downhill. Had Mental Health issues. Nothing he had done since then can be justified. A host of issues that we starting to see come to light. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Of course. As we were talking about, mr. Peters is laying the background of john houser. We are told john houser fits the profile of what my next guest calls the most violent and dangerous individuals in the country. Richard cohen is the president of the souther Poverty Law Center an organization that tracks hate groups. Richard, what i want to get your take. What do you make of what you heard there from mr. Peters . This pattern that he lays out. At one point, he just saw john houser go spiral downward. Yeah. Its a classic case that we have seen so many times before. A frustrated angry person looking for reasons outside of himself to explain his failures. Goes to the world of racism goes to the world of antigovernment extremism. Then it erupts. Maybe a triggering event, a touch of mental illness. The people in that theater paid the terrible terrible price. Its the pattern of a lone wolf. You describe him as kind of the most dangerous and violent type of person that fits in this profile. I want you to take a look as we do these days look at his online activity. What we know so far. He would write on forums dedicated to the golden dawn the neonazi party. He praised hitler. Does any of this what you see of this profile, does this indicate that this guy was a ticking time bomb . You know he talked about he praised lone wolves on his web paeftostings. He talked about Hitler Tim Mcveigh the Oklahoma City bomber. Theres a lot out there that reflects kind of an obsession with violence. I would mention, kate, that his White Supremacy is nothing recent nothing new, rather. It goes back at least ten years, perhaps longer than that. So this had been some boiling rage within this person for a long long time. I think, of course no matter what you do you are not going to find lodgic in thee ik logic in the mind of a mad man. Not at all. Thank you so much. Next im going to talk to a young man there and survived the shooting spree. How did he and his fiancee make it out . Two teachers in the Movie Theater, theyre being called heros tonight. 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The governor tonight commending two teachers who were shot by houser but still managed to save the lives of others. Kyung lah is out front. Chaos. Reporter unfolding inside the Movie Theater. Where High School Teachers jenna mow and ali martin were celebrating. They took their training and put it into action even outside of the classroom. Reporter their training as teachers says friend and coworker cammi, but training you dont expect to use while watching a movie. One teacher jumped in front of her friend saving her life. The second teacher said the bullet was coming for her head. Both teachers were injured. The second teacher was injured in the leg. Reporter both shot bleeding yet somehow the friends who saved each other then thought of the 100 others in the theater. Owe fishes say martin headed to a fire alarm. Presence of mind to pull those that fire alarm to alert individuals what was going inside that theater. Who knows how many lives she saved by doing that. 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Amazing woman. Thank you. Tonight, a survivor of the louisiana Movie Theater shooting. Josh thank you for joining us. I can only imagine what its like now. Youve had some time to process what you really experienced in that theater. What do you make of it . Caller honestly kind of crazy to think Something Like that would happen. You always hear about shootings happening. But you never think its going to happen to you in your hometown. Especially in a small town like we live in. Just kind of surreal, really. Absolutely. If you could, take us back to that moment when you realized you are sitting in the Movie Theater when you realize something was really wrong in that theater. Caller maybe ten, 15 minutes into the movie, all of a sudden you just heard a loud bang. I mean did you know right away . Caller a loud bang. Almost like a firecracker went off, but it was louder. It the hurt your ears it was so loud. Instantly, i knew it was a gunshot. I dont think there was no screaming or anything like that. You never heard anybody arguing. It just came out of nowhere. Just pow. I grabbed my fiancee. We got down. As i looked up i could see he was standing at the top of the theater on the opposite side of us just standing in the aisle. Then he started shooting again and firing more shots. I saudi arabiaw he wasnt pointed in our direction. I grabbed my fiancee and we ran around the corner. As we were running, thats when people the second shots started. We were already running. Thats when more people started realizing what was going on. It kind of turned into chaos. And then everybody climbing over seats and running and screaming. Once we got outside and called 911. In those im sure seconds that felt like hours, what do you remember specifically about the shooter . What was the look on his face . Did he show any emotion at all . What do you remember . Caller a brief second i looked at him. The biggest thing that stood out to me was how calm he was. You know there was no arguing with anybody, no fighting. The way he looked at me while he was standing there, he was just very relaxed. Im doing this. He just had this calm stance about him. Didnt care about anything. Just very calm. He didnt say anything . He didnt register any emotion as those shots as he continued to fire on people . Caller no, maam. Never heard him scream, say anything. Just like i said just stand there very relaxed just pointing his weapon and firing. Which makes it all the more impossible to understand why someone would do this. Josh thank you so much for getting on the phone with us. We appreciate it. Caller absolutely. Thank you. Earlier i spoke with colonel michael edmondson. Have the conversation with your kids. What would do you in a situation like this when you hear a gunshot . What do you do . I think they need to have those conversations. Put the cell phones away and have those conversations about who is your kids friends, what were they doing. I think thats important. Sure is. Joining me now, former police officer, phillip holloway. What do parents need to tell their children or what does anybody need to know about what to do if they find themselves in a theater like this and someone opens fire . Unfortunately, we have to talk about it. Good evening and thank you for having me. Im sorry were having to have this discussion about this horrible tragedy thats one again occurred. The most important thing for people to remember if they are phased with an active shooter situation is to try as best as possible to remain calm and seek cover and if at all possible exit the situation, remove yourself from the building or from wherever you might be. That is first. There has been a lot of talk about whether people could carry guns into a Movie Theater or things like that. That should be only done as a last resort. In an active shooter situation, a personal sidearm is potentially more dangerous than the shooter. You really dont know what you are might be trying to shoot at. Outside of one foot away from the shooter, a personal sidearm is not very effective. Interesting point. Every time we have discussed this every time you go to the movies you carry a firearm. You are trained to do so. Do you recommend others to do the same . Well thats a personal choice everybody has to make. Im certainly not suggesting that everybody go without any training strap on a gun every time they go to the movies. Thats not what im suggesting. In fact to the contrary. I would like to look at an example. If you