Transcripts For CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront 20150612 : compar

Transcripts For CNNW Erin Burnett OutFront 20150612

Good evening. Im erin burnett. We begin with breaking news in the new york manhunt. The female prison worker Joyce Mitchell has moments ago been charged with helping the two convicted killers escape from a maximum security prison. Tonight, the two prisoners evading about 1,000 Law Enforcement officials. Mitchell is in police custody. A source with knowledge of the investigation tells us that mitchell had a relationship with both prisoners, richard matt and david sweat. We are learning tonight that investigators believe mitchells husband, who works at the prison may have been involved in the escape plan, at least known about it. He was not charged tonight though. Meanwhile, on day seven of the manhunt, a warning to the killers on the run just a moment ago. We have a message for david sweat and richard matt. We are coming for you. And we will not stop until you are caught. That happened as i said in the past ten minutes. We will speak to a friend and neighbor of joyce and lyle mitchell. First, we begin our coverage with alexandra field in new york. The District Attorney moments ago at that microphone announcing the charges of Joyce Mitchell. What more did he say about her . Reporter good evening. The District Attorney saying authorities have been talking to Joyce Mitchell for days. She has been cooperating. Shes under arrest tonight. They say the information that she provided in the interviews has been relevant and helpful to the search. 51yearold Joyce Mitchell is now facing charges for helping two convicted killers escape from a maximum security prison in upstate new york. Law enforcement officials tell cnn mitchell gave richard matt and david sweat blades drill bits and eyeglasses with lights attached. Now investigators are zeroing in on whether anything else helped the prisoners escape. Questioning mitchells husband who may have known about the plan. He worked at the prisons tailor shop. We have information coming through through interviews through our investigation that he possibly could have been involved or had knowledge of what was happening. Reporter questions have swirled around the seamstress since the fugitives made a break for it and emerged outside the Clinton Correctional Facility. Authorities say the hacksaw blades and other items given to the fugitives were purchased in the past few months. Police say mitchell was set to meet them with a getaway car. But she never showed. Instead, hospitalized for a panic attack the same day of the escape. Mitchell had a relationship with both escaped prisoners, richard matt and david sweat, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation. But its unclear which one she favored. In fact state department of corrections officials had received a complaint about the relationship between Joyce Mitchell and one of the two escapees. But the Department Reportedly didnt find enough evidence to support the claim. That was alexandra field reporting. Shes right outside that school where they have the press conference moments ago. News of the charges shocking Joyce Mitchells family and friends, including her neighbor sharon courier who joins me on the phone. I know you live a few doors down. You have known her 15 years. Just moments ago, she was charged with helping these killers, bringing contraband to them helping them escape. Can you believe it . Caller no i cant believe it. I really cant. Im really shocked. I never thought she was like that. Shes a very nice person. And, sharon we know she told authorities that one of the killers made her feel in her word special. What do you think could have motivated her . Caller i really dont know. I dont know what she was thinking. I dont know. Maybe charmed her or something or money. I dont know. Charm or money. Caller i dont know. Something had to make her do that. Shes not like that. Shes not even a flirt or anything. Shes just a nice person. She is accused, sharon of giving the men blades drill bits among other things. We are waiting to find out more. But thats what we have learned are among the contraband items she may have smuggled in. Did she have any familiarity with those tools that you were aware of as a longtime neighbor and friend . Caller no. Ive never seen her having any tools of any kind or anything. I wouldnt know where she would get them. Unless she got them at the prison. I dont know. I was shocked. Im just so shocked that she even participated in Something Like that. She never acted like that. Shes a good mom. She was a good wife. Shes a good person. You talk about a good mom, wife person. Not a flirt. Its an image of her you know her well. Its a real image. Caller i know her well. She went to school with my older children. She went to school with them. They were teenagers and everything. She was never anything like that. We have gotten a different picture from others. Her exhusband said shes a serial cheater. Someone else said shes a troublemaker. It sounds to me like that doesnt fit at all with the woman you knew. Caller it doesnt. The woman i knew she wasnt a troublemaker. Her first husband, he cheated on her and never took care of his son. I dont think he should be talking. Officials have previously investigated joyce for a relationship with one of the two men. Did she ever sharon talk to you about her job, about these men, about any men in the jail . Caller no. Never. She never even talked about her job. No. She never brought it up or anything. Sharon i appreciate you taking the time very much. Thank you so much. Caller well okay thank you. I want to go to paul callen former prosecutor and criminalist casey jordan. You heard a neighbor. She has known joyce. In a sense, what she was saying didnt surprise you. No. Its the same thing neighbors say when we discover serial killers. So many people have if you wont call it a double life a very secret life. In this particular case with Joyce Mitchell thats what was so exciting. If shes a classic person who has the idea that the thrill of going to work every day and having something to look forward to. We have been talking about it the obsession with the alpha male bad boy. Women with low selfesteem, women who were abused as children, they need that sense of romance, almost a regressed feeling of teenagers. Their lives are mundane. I call it love makes you crazy. It causes a lot of crime throughout the United States. So we just heard the District Attorney. Moments ago he laid out the charges. Contraband and criminal facilitation. These charges together could carry a maximum of eight years and could carry less. There could be more charges. What do you think happens from here . Part of me layperson, i say they have waited aid week to charge her. They have gotten everything they could get out of here. It wasnt enough to actually find them. They drained her dry. The word was that she went in without a lawyer. Normally you would surrender with a lawyer and a deal would be cut in exchange for information, a recommendation for a lighter sentence. Instead, she was questioned i understand, without a lawyer present. Thats our understanding. These are serious charges, promoting prison contraband is smuggling items that are banned into a prison seven years in prison is the maximum, two and a third is the minimum. The other charge criminal is a list criminal is akrimcriminal sewis a solicitation. They say her husband may have helped or known. Casey, when you hear this neighbor she also i had a chance to speak with her earlier. She told me joyce and lyle were holding hands. They had a happy relationship. There was no indication there was anything wrong in the marriage. And yet a source close to the investigation is telling us she had a relationship not with just one of the killers but with both of the killers. Im not surprised. She craves the thrill of having someone Pay Attention to her, adore her. You have to keep in mind that for her to keep getting away with this for her to keep a relationship with an unmate at work ongoing, she has to hold hands with her husband. She has to throw everybody off. She has to put on a perfect public face. I will be curious the question mark now is not Joyce Mitchell. Its lyle mitchell. How much did he know . If he was in charge of maintenance in that same tailor shop perhaps thats how she got blueprint to give to the guys. Thats how she got the tools. Maybe he suspected, but he isnt complicit. Im interested to hear his perspective. The fact that they charged her now, they didnt charge the husband, they are charging her, what does that mean in the broader sense of are there other people out there that might have helped them . I go back to the point of they drained her dry in your words. That wasnt enough to find them. She doesnt know exactly where these guys are. Im wondering how many people do know. They have been out long enough now that whatever their seven days. Whatever their initial plan was, it may have been varied by weather or by the pursuit of the police. They could be in a different area than they originally planned to go to. Its just stunning. Casey, in terms of the husband, you suspected him of being involved. I want to understand the motivation. If its true his wife is sleeping with two other men. Why would he help i dont understand. I dont necessarily think he knew that there was an affair going on. Im going to give him the benefit of the doubt. I think that she was bamboozled by the inmates. I think she kept him close. If hes the maintenance worker, he knows the inner workings of whats behind the wall. Ive been saying i will bet hes an engineer. I bet he knows where the steam pipes are. He would have access to the blueprint and the plans. I think she may have gotten them from him without him knowing. Never forget a complaint was made by someone in the facility that she was having a relationship with one or both of these guys. Which had been investigated in the past. Maybe it was lyle who reported her. Maybe it was her own husband who turned her in. Give him the benefit of the doubt until we hear where he stand on this. It may be a limited conspiracy. Because who is aiding and abetting on the outside . Both of these individuals are under police surveillance. Which would suggest that they may still be close to the prison, hiding in the woods, in a cave a cabin, some place that hasnt been searched. She may have thrown them off trail. 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Breaking news police issuing a warning to two killers on the loose tonight. Authorities will not stop hunting until men who escaped seven days ago are caught. Nearly 1,000 state, local and federal Law Enforcement officers are now hunting in the manhunt for two convicted killers who escaped that prison. They have been following more than 700 leads in the seven days that richard matt and david sweat have been missing. Miguel marcos is live in the search area where they are hunting. Here is what i notice when i look at you. Its pouring rain. How is that impacting the hunt . Reporter its miserable conditions out there for both the searchers, the hundreds of searchers out there now. We have seen them change shifts. Many coming through here. Certainly, worse for those two people on the run. Like an army Law Enforcement moving into neighborhoods, keeping the pressure on leaving nothing to chance. Residents here hypervigilant, hopeful this nightmare of killers on the loose will soon end one way or another. Im home right now. I have every door locked. Everybody is scared worried. Reporter a former marine and an english teacher says one saving grace in this part of the world, guns. A way of life. How many guns do you own . About 50. Reporter 50 . Five zero . Yeah. I have four gun safes. Reporter hunting and shooting so common place the escapees may have more to worry about than the official searchers. The fact that two escapees may worry people. But they are not really worried. Reporter at 83 years old, still a crack shot. Look at the bulls eyes. Bang on my friend. Ive been doing it for a long time. Reporter he might need to be. Investigators pouring through nearby gas station Surveillance Video where two convicted murderers may have been rummaging for food. People in this area when they talk about Joyce Mitchell i should say, they scratch their heads as to how she could actually help. Theres pure anger out there for her as well. Perhaps its best that she is behind bars or will be shortly, because theres a lot of upset throughout this community that all of this is caused by this escape. Thank you very much. Jonathan gilliam, an fbi special agent and gary heyward who served time in jail and an author. Thank you for being with me. 700 leads. You heard miguel talk about, its swarming with Law Enforcement, nearly 1,000. Why havent they found them . Well i mean they did get an eighthour head start. Wherever we started off with two scenarios. They may not be there. Thats the worst scenario. A lot of people are starting to come away from that and think that because the dogs pick up scent, they are there. We concentrate on the scenario they didnt have help. They had eight hours to get three miles away. This is a big area. Its very swampy. You see how bad the weather is. Their ability to maneuver and get away is as hard as it is for the guys to come in and search for them. Thats probably whats delaying this process. As someone who served time there, today they had a farm that was the focus. They thought for a brief while that they were there. Everybody was converging on that space. Then they said no. Law enforcement were leaving. A few false alarmed. I think that one of the key parts is Joyce Mitchell. If you can get her to talk. To see whether they did have help besides her. As he said if they had outside help they could be gone gone somewhere else. If they had a vehicle waiting for them besides miss mitchell. If it was for monetary gain if they had to pay somebody to get them. You dont know why she did it. Out of love or monetary gain. If they had some way of paying people to help them they could have been they could be long gone. There could be another story here. Before this most he is skaupeeskaup most escapees are caught quickly. Obviously here seven days. Is time working for or against the searchers . Well you know, again, it depends on did they have help or not . I tell you who helped them inadvertently that needs to be looked at thats this prison giving them green jumpsuits. You are surrounded by woods. Why would you give somebody something that is green . To wear every day. If they escape thats why hunters wear orange so they can be seen. There are certain things that led up to this that i think have really been have made it more difficult for the overall search. Right. At this point, i guess i could be wrong, but the assumption is they have found other clothes or someone delivered them clothes or she did. But, again, that goes back to this prison. What is going on inside that allowed this woman and this guy to have a relationship when they were they didnt split them up. I think we were discussing this earlier. I think that they had help making the cuts. To think that they could go in with a saw and make those precision cuts without its so its as loud as a jackhammer. You agree with that. You have been agreeing all the way along that you think there was other help. Do you think they are together . Thats another crucial question as they hunt. Im not rooting for them. But if they were out there, the best bet would be for them to Stay Together. I would think that they would think that to Stay Together so they can make moves at the same time. If one get caught you dont know if he will turn on other, give away a location. I would bet that they stay in it together . Yes. What about this . They have killed before. Will they kill again . Even the way they goad the woman into this shows they are psychopaths. They are predators. These people are good at changing their behavior and molding into an environment. Im sure that if their freedom they have right now, even rough freedom for them is freedom, its something that they would fight for. How long do they go before Law Enforcement pulls back or starts to give up . They have nearly 1,000 people. You cant keep that up forever. As long as

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