Burnett tonight. There is now an Aerial Search over the java sea as the search intensifies and zeros in closer to the target. 30 bodies have been recovered as day breaks over the java sea and day five of the search is set to begin. Crews from around the world are focusing their efforts on a zone that covers just over 2,000 square miles. Officials are calling that zone the most probable area in which to find the fuselage and their top priority the planes black boxes. 59 teams of divers are ready to go but bad weather and rough seas waves reported to be as high as 13 feet have stalled the work. A piece of wreckage possibly a window panel was found today. Of the 30 bodies recovered, four are identified. Among them one of the Flight Attendants. Airasia Tony Fernandez is accompanying that body home. Writing on twitter. I cannot describe how i feel. There are no words. The uss sampson part of the Recovery Team has recovered a dozen bodies and the uss fort worth with dive teams set to sail from singapore on friday although indonesia authorities have not asked them to join the search. David malco is out outfront in indonesia. Reporter for the first time recovery of actual parts of airasia flight 8501 brought ashore in indonesia. More pieces resembling windows from the airbus a320 but the fuselage is believed to be at the bottom of the java sea. The search has narrowed to over 2,000 square miles. Slightly the size of delaware. Crews are listening for a sound like this to guide them to the planes black boxes. But weather is a major factor. Visual searching nearly impossible and divers dealing with 13 foot waves. Still some remains are being recovered, including these there the u. S. Navy ship sampson. In surabaya ten bodies made their way through pouring rain to a hospital. And they are making progress identifying the victims. One of the first was a Flight Attendant, nisa has she was known by her father and mother. Translator she is an obedient daughter. She is always tidy. She loves to learn. A lot of her friends love her. Reporter pictures from the Instagram Account show a poised young woman with a giving heart, her mother said and an adventure adventurous spirit that took her hundreds of miles away from home. She loved this. It was her dream. She loved traveling. Reporter the reflections in our interview cut short by a phone call. The call no parent wants to get. Leaning on her two old brothers and cousins, their smiles vanished and replaced by a sense of urgency and finality. A few hours later, a solemn transfer of remains. Her parents say theyve already made preparation for their daughters burial as she begins her final journey home. Translator goodbye. Goodbye, nisa. Reporter a difficult day for that family and so many others here. What struck me most about her parents was their strength and resilience even in the face of such grief. Her father saying that her eldest brother wants to follow in her footsteps and wanted to become a Flight Attendant and travel he said that despite what happened that he would still support his son. Here outside of the Family Crisis Center and Police Hospital three other victims have been identified. 158 other families still waiting for aents. Jim. Thank you very much david malco. Gary tuchman is in surabaya. You have been speaking with families. How are they doing . It is a difficult wait with no possibility of happy news at the end of the tunnel . Reporter that is right, jim. It is saturday morning here and this moment this is six days exactly since we learned about the disappearance of the plane. So it is a very long time and most of the families havent found out anything about their loved ones. Here in surabaya were at the Police Headquarters because the tent behind me is the family waiting center where families wait for information and get help. There is a truck here delivering chairs and the reason they are doing that is interesting. Unfortunately the weather is so bad that the tent over the last couple of days has flooded. So they had to move everyone out. There is no one in there right now and they built a raised floor with carpeting, so when it rains again, and it likely will so they are raising that. And there are no families here because most of them are staying at home waiting for information. And 30 bodies recovered and that means 132 bodies not. And yesterday we went to a church service, that was so sad and poignant but this aircraft had 46 members of one small christian denomination here. 36 people were from the same church and we went to the service the church had and it was very sad being there. These poor people going through with what so many other people are going through, waiting to hear about loved ones. Incredible onethird of the plane from one church. Thank you very much to gary tuchman. Outfront tonight, pentagon secretary john kirby also live tonight. The u. S. Playing an Important Role in the search. We were waiting, i understand admiral kirby, for at rival of the uss fort worth to join. Has it gotten to the site yet . She is on the way. And she is west but should arrive later today. What special capabilities does it bring along, particularly to the under water search. It is a combat ship and very shallow, 14 feet draft ship. So she can go into Shallow Water where perhaps other navy ships arent able to good. Good. And she does have a helicopter which will help in the search and recovery. There are under water capabilities but right now there is not a need for that or a desire to use it. So right now, i think shes mostly used in the same way the uss sampson destroyer is being used which is for Aerial Search and recovery. Why fwho ask for why no ask for help from the u. S. And the u. S. Has been helping and preparing dive teams, et cetera. Any frustration on the part of the u. S. Military that they havent been asked to take part more . No. Not at all. Jim, were here to support them in any way they see fit. The indonesian search and rescue agency is coordinating this and leading the effort and doing quite a good job, we might add. So were just proud to be able to support in any way we k. There is no frustration at all. We want to bring whatever capabilities that are jermaine to this search effort if they are needed. And if they are not needed that is okay. Too. We want to be ready to participate in any way. And you said the uss sampson, the destroyer onsite for a number of days has now collected some 12 bodies. And other search teams have collected 30 bodies. It seems that is accelerating in the last 24 hours or so. Are searchers reading anything into that and do they believe as a result of that concentration of bodies they are getting closer to where the concentration of wreckage is on the ocean floor . I havent heard anything like that jim. And i think it is a little too soon to be able to say that because of the stuff that is being recovered and the bodies recovered that we have a better sense of where the wreckage is on the ocean floor. As you are reporting and the reporting on cnn has pointed out, there are tides, currents winds, and the sea state changes every day and with all of the movement under water and on the surface, quite frankly, you will get wreckage and debris spread around and that makes it more difficult. So too early to see that there is any trend here. But obviously, were going to be at it and willing to support for as long as necessary. The u. S. Of course also took part in the search for mh370 which still has not been located for the wreckage and there was questions about who was leading it and false starts and signals, et cetera do you believe this search learned any lessons from that search in terms of research allocation of resources and coordination of countries taking part. We always learn and look at how we can improve our performance next time around. But weve gotten pretty good at search and rescue operations in the u. S. Military. It is a part and parcel of the kinds of missions that we are trained to conduct. But i will tell you, again, back to what i said before the indonesian government has the lead here and their search and rescue agency is coordinating and doing a good job of it. And we are here to support and lend whatever capabilities we can but we learn from every operation we have. And can you give us what sense of time the u. S. Offering the help and although much progress has been made in recent days these things take a long time. How long is the u. S. Committing resources to the search and how long should americans expect for this to last Going Forward . Weve made it very clear to the indonesian government and to our partners in the region well be ready, willing and help for as long as required. There is no time stamp or deadline put on that. Well help as long as required. And given this is a different situation than mh370 Shallow Water, more confined Geographic Area and are recovering bodies so we have a better sense of where things are. I think were looking at a matter of weeks. But you never know. It could go longer than that any. Admiral john kirby, thank you for joining us. Two of americas most advanced ships taking part. Great to have you on tonight. Thanks jim. Gary gallo, had a central role in locating the wreckage of air france 447 and much deeper water. Listening to admiral kirby, one thing that strikes me is what seems to be indonesian government reluctance to take in the help that the u. S. Is helping here. The uss fort worth, a combat ship, it has side scan sonar, experienced dive teams, essential for the search. Are you surprised by that . Im not. I agree with the admiral. They are doing a good job and it would be wrong to impose ourselves on them. And they are aware and weve made an informal offer that we are available to help if that is needed. So were no were in a sit and wait mode. On the other side of that equation in the middle of a search it is nice to have people there if you need them. Buff you dont want someone imposing on you. Clearly they made progress in the last couple of days something that never happened with mh370 you found bodies and debris and you know the area and that is accelerating and finding more debris and the area is still quite large. 2,000 square miles. I think the size of long island new york. That is right. With that in mind maybe you can give our viewers a sense of how long that will take in to hone in on the area. We had 5,000 miles for malaysia and this is less than half of that. How long did it take you . It would have taken months it. Depends on the vehicles the talent of the team. The Operational Plan in place. How detailed do you want to look . Do you want to go over quickly certain areas or focus in. And more importantly, it depends on the weather. And in this case theyve had horrible luck with the weather. Big advantage here though it is 100 feet deep and not miles deep. And it is you dont have to come out miles and you can stay on station. David gallo, thank you for joining us as always. The air space over Southeast Asia could be extremely crowded. Could that be a reason for the crash. And did the pilot land on the surface of the water only to have it sink in high seas. And the u. S. 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Uss fort worth is on the way to the search zone as well just hours away from being on station. Also found during yesterdays search a window panel that appears to be part of the planes fuselage. Tonight there are new questions as to whether the congested air space around Southeast Asia could have contributed to the crash. Tom foreman is outfront. And tom what, are you learning about the number of planes flying near flight 8501 at the very moment it vanished . We know that just as the skies around there have grown much more crowded in recent years, there was congestion in this area. The plane was at 32,000 feet when it was last recorded there and this is what it was flying into. This gigantic storm, about 200 square miles. The height of the storm some 52,000 feet towering up in the air and in a big storm like this you might have winds of 70 80 90 Miles Per Hour in individualized places in microburst. So what else was going on. At the time this plane disappeared. Somewhere within 124 miles of it and 2,000 feet above it were five different flights. There may have been more. But these were there. So these had the air space that this plane wanted to some degree. Now whether you could fit in there or not, that is where air Traffic Controllers debate. He was at 32,000 feet and he requested to go up to 38,000 feet and that was denied. They said he could not go up there. Air Traffic Control had concluded apparently that it was okay to go to 34,000 feet but somewhere in the process of this being decided and the message being sent to him, that is when they lost contact with the plane. And all of this is fuelling the idea that maybe maybe what happened is this pilot was desperate to get to a higher salt tude and in doing so to a higher altitude that he winged into a stall or had a failure that made the plane fall to the ground. That is just a theory jim. But in the crowded skies, which are more crowded in that part of the world and against this storm, there is certainly a notion that he did want to go much higher much faster and of course now the plane is lost. Jim. Thanks very much tom. Lets test out some of the theories based on the information we have so far. Outfront is cnn safety nalt david sousie and later less al bin and marie sky bow. And you do believe that heavy air traffic is significant when it comes to this crash. Why is that . It is extremely significant for two reasons. One, i dont know if it would have made a difference if he got the clearance in this particular case. If the planes overhead prohibited that. Because the information that came out over new years indicated a climb rate between 6,000 and 9,000 feet per minute. The maximum crime rate is 3500. So i think the weather was forcing a lot of this climb rate because it was so different from it. And i do think that had a difference and the decision to go through the storm instead of around it and the vast increase in flights in this area has left the government unable to keep up with the aviation. Our own federal aviation has ajudged indonesia Safety Standards and regulators as subpar. So i think that the regulation and the investigators havent kept up with the traffic volume. And mary i saw you shaking your head when tom was talking about the one theory of the plane perhaps stalling as it tried to get to the higher altitude . Im going to go on the side of this particular captain for 20,000 hours, 6,000 hours with the airline itself. He knows the performance of his airplane. To climate suppose a rate that could to climate such a rate to possibly cause a stall, and up to an altitude that is close to the ceiling of that airplane there are aspects that led me to believe maybe they were in an urgent situation trying to deviate around weather and it wasnt going to happen because the altitude requested was denied. But in the same token, you wont take the airplane out of performance, not at that level of experience. Im thinking something mechanical got this got the crews attention. I can hear mary whispering her agreement. David, this is speculation territory at this point, but what we do know the weather was bad and it just strikes me as a frequent flier, often in really weather, weve had two incidence incidence, air france 447, a failure of equipment and plane goes down. Here bad weather, which looks to be a major factor should there be new regulation about what kind of weather the planes fly through. Mary makes the point of get thereitis. I think one of the things to think back to this, the pilot has at his disposal to declare a emergency. He could have declared an emergency and overruled the controller. Exactly. So i think as far as getting around yes, i agree with that with marys thought of the fact it was rising faster than the climb race makes sense. But if he declared an emergency, it would have taken time to clear out the airplanes out of the way and make a spot for them. But that does put the onus on the air Traffic Controller. And lets look at what we do know. You have the 30 bodies and you made this point david, and i want to ask your opinion, mary you had an exit door discovered and an exit raft discovered which gave you possible indication that maybe the pilot had tried unsuccessfully sadly, to ditch the plane and they were preparing to get off the plane. Well and the reason i think of that was there no other debris found in the first pass. This may change. They may find other debris. But for that exit door to be outside of the airplane with the slide outside of the airplane with the tank that inflates the slide outside of the airplane and had no other debris other than some passengers that were out there, three i think at the time and from a specific area the ocean is not smart enough to filter out everything except the things associated with the escape and that raises flags. And mary youve been participating in the reading of the clues and does that sound plausible to you as well. Well again, this is information leaked out on new years day and it was said that it was up to 34,000 feet per minute and that exceeds anything the plane could do and so i think it was a tremendous updraft and at that rate that is not a controlled descent. It is supposed to be 2,000 feet per minute. And those tremendous up and down drafts how difficult to control the plan