Demanding hard evidence and say malaysian authorities should have got the same before declaring 239 lives lost. The headline reads good night mh370. We are not showing you the video of the grieving relatives. I dont think its appropriate. Breaking news we have just learned that relatives of some of the passengers are heading to the Malaysian Embassy to express their anger. And malaysian officials will be talking to reporters in 90 minutes. We will bring you that press conference as it happened. First the latest from perth, australia. After 17 days of hope and anguish this is not the words that the families were waiting to hear. Deep sadness and regret that i must inform you live image 370 ended in the southern indian ocean. Reporter the Prime Minister saying based on new information from the Satellite Company inmarsat, the 777 went down west of perth, australia, nowhere near any possible landing site. Malaysian airlines sent this text message to the families. We have to assume beyond any reasonable doubt that mh 370 has been lost and that none of those on board survived. Some families want evidence that the plane went down. I dont know why i just want to see some debris off the aircraft and the black box, to know what exactly happened, because there are too many unanswered questions. Reporter chinas government demanding malaysia share all information and evidence. While frustrated chinese relatives release a statement, condemning the malaysian governments handling of the incident, saying, the malaysian government and malaysian military putting off, holding back and covering up the truth of the incident as well as trying to deceive the families of passengers and people of the entire world. While theres no evidence of a coverup, there is the next in question of just what did take down the airplane. There are new questions about the experience of co pilot hameed fareed. This is his sixth flight on a 777 and the first without a supervisor. In line with company policy. And new details about the flights path, a source close to the investigation tells cnn that military radar tracking shows the plane flew as low as 12,000 feet, at some point before it disappeared from radar. As the search continues in the south indian ocean, new signs of hope for locating the wreckage. Were looking for debris in the water. We saw a number of objects both on the surface and beneath the surface visually as we flew of the top of them. Crew members on board an Australian Aircraft report spotting two objects, one gray or green in color, and the other orange. Chinese aircraft spotted two different large floating objects and several smaller white ones dispersed over several kilometers. But finding these objects continues to be challenging at best. The search area has narrowed, but its still 600,000 square miles wide. We are anticipating the press conference from malaysian authorities that is to occur an hourandahalf ago. But you just got word of a press conference in australia . The military announced to the press they wanted all of us to gatherer. The Australian Defense minister wants to Say Something. We dont know the topic. He has something he wants to announce or discuss. Were expecting that in just under an hour. Well bring that to our viewers live and the Malaysian Press conference. Were going to be on at least to the 1 00 a. M. Hour. Lets talk about the search that was suspended today. There has been so much anticipation given what has occurred over the weekend in the last 72 hours do. They expect to resume tomorrow . I suppose it depends on the weather and the conditions in the water. Reporter theyre hopeful they can do it tomorrow. But the Weather Forecast is a lot like today. It is simply too dangerous for the planes to get out there and the ships to get out there. The weather isnt expected to improve until thursday. So as far as getting back out there we know that everybody who is on the search teams are itching to get out but they cant. This is the area known as the roaring 40s. Throw in bad weather and its too dangerous. Well come back to you for that statement by the defense minister in about 54 minutes from now. Other developments to tell you about. The u. S. Navy is sending a sophisticated piece of gear to seek out the cockpit data and flight recorders. It is being loaded on a cover go plan plane. The batteries are about ready to run out about two weeks from now and the clock is inning t ticking. As for the electronic pings from plane to satellite i want to talk to chris mclaughlin, a Senior Vice President at inmarsat. The government made the announcement today based on data and analysis from your Company Given to them by uk officials. How confident is inmarsat that that is what happened to mh370, it ended up in the water . We have been looking at it for six or seven days and comparing it with other 777s in that particular region and looking at the flight data we can get from the pings. What we did was to map those pings against the southern and against the northern route. I can say theres a strong correlation with the southern route, and absolutely no correlation with the north, that it went south. You can rule out that northern route . Yes. Can you say, though, that with 100 certainty, that the plane ended up in the water . We have to bow to the honors that the Investigation Team has. We can say that we saw the plane in a number of pings to the network over a period of hours. That period of hours coincides with the amount of time that the malaysians say it was fuelled up for and that would tie in with some seven pings or communications, if you like, from the last known one through to the plane possibly running out of fuel. At which case it would have been over the southern indian ocean. I dont know how to ask this, or how you can answer it. Is all the information youve given the malaysians, has that all been stated publicly or is there other information or other data you shared with them, that would make them lead to this conclusion in a way that youre not able to say. No, were Holding Nothing back. Weve been open with the investigation from the outset from within the first few hours of it going missing to coming up on the 11th with the concept of the north south route and to the investigation and further thoughts yesterday, we shared everything that we have, theres no data that were keeping back. I think a lot of people didnt realize until this, that its quite common for planes to disappear in a sense from radar, when its over large bodies of water and the like. Its really up to the pilots to communicate their location. Is there a technology that could change that . Yeah, theres no question, we could do it now, there are 10,000 wide bodied jets fitted with the same system that was on board this malaysian airline. Its a classic arrow system. Its a 64 kilobit system. Capable of sending out text based messages with the zeta another thing offers half a megabit to allow more streaming of data. The systems are there and available today. Thats a question of what airlines are deciding to use them . Or governments deciding to use them . Whose decision is that . The decision is regulatory. Its already mandated for the north atlantic. Its not mandated for the rest of the world. Perhaps it should be, since it was five years since the air france was lost. Perhaps its time to say that its incomprehensible that a commercial airline could go missing for six or seven hours. Had we have automated position reporting as we do with long range i dent cation and tracking as we do with ships at sea, we would have known 15, 20 minutes of the plane being lost where it was. Appreciate you talking to us today, thank you. Thank you very much. David gallo, co leader of the search for air France Flight 447. Director of the special projects. Also with us, former department of transportation general mary schiavo. David, you talked to people from inmarsat. What can you tell us you heard from them . How confident are you in the information . After speaking to them im very confident with them. I talked about how they could do trainlation. And there is no such thing at trainlation on these satellites. So what they explained to me is if the center of the satellite is further from the aircraft it takes longer to make the handshake. As it approaches closer to the center, that time decreases. The scientists there take those calculations and figure out at this point it was traveling towards the center and then away from the center and based on other information im not smart enough to understand they were able to figure out where the aircraft was. The man from inmarsat earlier was saying there is technology that would allow planes to constantly communicate so the planes wouldnt disappear as this one did and many planes do and yet its not mandated. Its not required. It is on certain routes. In the north atlantic. But by and large where there is a lot of traffic. But its not mandated by and large. The technology exists and the data streams exist. If you talk to the cynics they will say the airlines dont want to spend the money on the data. It would raise costs. If you have 600 planes or 500 planes in the fleet, that is a sizable cost that will go on the ticket. You have to weigh that against the sort of incident that were now facing here. Its a question for municipals or regions to mandate it . It is in the north atlantic. But its interesting to me that there would be a discrimination between that area of the world very this area of the world. The technology is available. So why would you stop the data from streaming going down to south america or into asia versus just the north atlantic. Simply yes, it is mandated but how much more expensive can that be . I do think this whole tragedy is going to start to raise a lot of questions by passengers about aircraft they are now flying on in the future in terms of what their rights are and what is in the cargo holds of the planes. Passengers as of now have no right to know what is in the cargo hold of the plane they are flying. They cant ask about the acars system on board the aircraft, correct . Thats right. They have no way to find out, no way to ask. Its difficult for them to get information about how their airline stacks up against others. All those questions about a carrier that would help you judge whether you want to fly on that carrier and whether its safe are locked away in the you know the records of the carrier. If you ask the federal Aviation Administration they will not produce it either. They say its proprietary information. And richard, its important to understand what we still do not know. Given the news from inmarsat and uk officials and the malaysian government. Well hear more at 12 30 a. M. But we simply do not know what happened to this plane. We do know it turned left and was able to be tracked for some time. But the bottom line, the mystery remains. We do not know. We can speculate to our hearts content. We can come up with theories about who took over. We dont even know, anderson, if this altitude change took place. A source telling cnn we dont know. The plane might have dropped to 12,000 feet. The malaysians havent confirmed it. At what point do they have to confirm or deny every source or rumor that is out there . At what point are they obliged to respond in that fashion to the fact that one network or another network. We are talking about every network in the world is on this. Let go back to the preprogrammed waypoint changes of last week. We all reported. That turned out to be false. Now the malaysians are getting the bad rap for that because everyone said they said it. But they put out the statement on saturday saying that the acars that after 1 07 nothing happened. We have to separate fact from myth from what we believe has been said. And the truth is at this point we have absolutely no idea officially what took place. To add on what richard said, this is an accident investigation. There is a lot of proprietary information that in the states and malaysia probably has the same system, is that its an organized investigation process and a lot of that information is not going to be released to the public because of the interpretation of the data and what you are doing to the family and friends. The countries are not wanting to give out radar data, because it gives a sense of their military capabilities. We are going to take a break. We are waiting to hear from the Australian Ministry officials. A lot to hoping to get a lot of new information in the next two hours. Coming up next, the anguish of the families getting the worst of possible news today. Ill be speaking to a grief counsellors. There was enough invasion of privacy showing you what grief looks like. But we want to talk about what he is trying to do for these families and what he is seeing and working with. And we will take you to Washington State where acres of earth gave way. 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If our 154 relatives aboard lost their lives due to such reasons, then the Malaysian Airlines and government are the real murderers that killed them. You talked about how in grief counseling there has to be a starting point and that is knowing what happened. Were the families given that starting point today . I dont think they quite got it. I think there are a couple of reasons. One is over the last two or three days it has been quiet in the hotel. You can tell most people were not as interested in all the little pieces of news or rumor or information as they were before. They were just basically waiting for the one final definitive answer. And you have the feeling that everybody is bracing for impact. And today when it came, unfortunately, it came as a technical conclusion based on things that they the people could not understand and given from a source that they do not quite trust. So most of the people they didnt want to accept it. I think thats one part. Theres another part that is interesting right now. They have been going from hope to despair so many times that even if and many of the people, i think their rational mind have probably come relatively close to accepting their loved ones are not coming back, but even if their rational mind accept it, the emotional mind is reluctant or refuses to accept. It is going to take time. And while youre talking were not showing pictures from families today where they were leaving that meeting, obviously distraught. I think it is too invasive who didnt agree to be on camera at a time like this, but i know a lot of family members agreed to receive updates via text message. And i also know that the airline did send a text telling the families that the flight was lost and no one survived. Did you speak to any of the families about that . Its one thing to agree to receive Text Messages and i clearly understand the desire to get information to the families before it is leaked to the media or announced publicly. But did the families react to that . Yeah. Many of them very angrily. And in some cases it is so unfortunate that i think its causing so much more pain. Because there was one instance where this person received this text message but they dont understand english. So they couldnt understand the message. And then they heard there was going to be a major announcement. So she was quite excited and she forwarded the text message to a friend of mine, with the following message. I have a good feeling that they have found them. And so she went to the announcement, expecting that they were going to tell them they found the people alive. Most of the families you are talking to are they still waiting for actual debris to be found, to be located and be in possession . Is there a level of sort of reality that they need to see for this . I think so. I think because right now, they have been given something they could not comprehend. Is it a technical conclusion, which really, you is to be a not only of a hightechnical mind. You have to give them something they can see and touch. They can see a piece of the plane or touch something from the plane. Then they would be able to accept it and that would be the closest thing that can come to closure if there is such a thing as closure. I find that is a tv word and for families living in grief this kind of pain never goes away, though time, perhaps, does help. Paul, i appreciate your efforts. It has been a heart breaking time for the families as they try to get