Ted nugent says hes a changed man. Even his own brother doesnt believe him. Hes outfront tonight. Plus the president says the rich are getting richer. Is that the governments problem . And Rush Limbaugh blames the the homosexual lobby for bulling the Arizona Governor on a controversial bill. For real . Lets go outfront. Good evening, everyone. Im erin burnett. Ted nugent says hes a changed man. At least thats what he told me last night in an interview that got a lot of people talking. I confronted him about calling president obama a subhuman mongrel, and his response was pretty shocking. Live on Erin Burnett Outfront cnn, ted nugent remember the alamo, february 24th, 2014. Im not going to call people names anymore. I think that to me, i know youre trying to make slightly light of this, but to me these things are not light at all because in a country you talk about no, im not making light very serious, very serious. Create more polarization is a horrible thing to do. Youre right. My children, my brothers, my sister, and my wonderful wife sharmane have told me that over and over. I think at the tender age of 65, i think youre absolutely correct. Instead of using terms like subhuman mongrel, im going to get to the meat of the matter where our president is a liar. He lies about you can keep your doctor, period. Over and over again, he lies about benghazi. Hes lying about the irs. I wont call him names anymore. Im going to get right to the nitty gritty and identify the criminal behavior by the people abusing power in the United States government so i take your advice to heart, erin. With that, he got a lot of people talking on our facebook page, on twitter and the media. One editorial writing wrote the great thing about the interview is he was clearly emerging from a visit to the republican woodshed. The orlando sentinal, nugent doesnt do contrite. Ho he does age i. At the does angry. That approach undercuts any point hes trying to make. When he talks, he keeps hurting the politicians and causes he supports. He hurts himself. Ted was on a tear monday night. Joining me commentators paul begala, ben ferguson and anna navarro. Youre all players in the story which is a story about whats going to happen to the Republican Party. You were called out by name, ben you spoke with ted today. He apologized to you last week. Anna speaks uniquely to whether the gop has a chance of being a Big Tent Party or a party increasingly fringed by hate speech liking from people like nugent. Ben, today he came on your radio show. You asked him what happened. And you asked him about some of these words hes using. One of the first thing he said to you, the president s a racist. So far as seem concerned, that pledge lasted not even 24 hours. I asked him, i said, give me an example why you think hes a racist. He immediately responded with as soon as is he put himself into the Trayvon Martin case by saying if i had a son, he would look like Trayvon Martin. He says thats playing the race card. Thats what he believes when he says like that. Thats why i said can you back it up instead of just being name calling. Whats interesting is about this is, one of the things in the polling, i think a lot of people in texas are not judging ted nugent by this one comment. In fact, greg abbott, people thought were going to be hurt by the comments has opened up a wider lead, an 11point lead over wendy davis. I think the democrats went a little bit too hard to try to destroy greg abbott because of his relationship with ted cruz or i should say with ted nugent. It may be backfiring on them today. Thats an incredible thing if its true. That you would actually see the poll numbers go up on the basis of that. Yeah, i think they overplayed it. I do. I think people in texas that know ted nugent and know what to expect from him and take him with a grain of salt saw them try to destroy greg abbott many believe is a good man and think they maybe overplayed their hand. Thats an interesting question about how theyre playing their hand, paul, because there wasnt just the mongrel comment in the comment that ted nugent originally made. He also used the word chimpanzee in a way that seemed to refer pretty clearly to the president. I wanted to play that exchange to you for your reaction because youre part of it, paul. I called my buddies in my band chimpanzees when they miss a good guitar lick. Give me a break on that. I referenced no racial overtones there whatsoever. I was referencing people who would look in the camera, when theres four dead americans in benghazi, and refuse to be accountable and say what difference does it make . Youve got to be a punk, liar, grossly dishonest, dangerously antiamerican, or some kind of animal to agree with that kind of stuff. So insert the word dog or mongrel or chimpanzee. I have nothing against any race. My whole life is dedicated to my black musical heros and you know that. I have not a racist bone in my body. Thats the sol lewinsky propaganda, like paul begala who said im a has been. I just celebrated my 509th year. Im a black guitar player from detroit. Get over it. All i know is if i called the president , who is a black president , a chim pan zee, i would and should be fired. I didnt call the president. First, paul, please respond to ted nugent to the substance of what he had to say. Obviously, he watched you on the show last week pretty closely. You were on with ben, i believe that night. Well, there wasnt any substance. I shouldnt have called ted a has been. He was a star. Its not about the ted nugent. I probably i was trying to be goofy and funny. I am a goof ball. I accept that. I agree. Its about greg abbott. This is what mr. Ferguson is talking about. Greg abbott is the attorney general of texas. He could choose anyone to campaign with him and he chose this really incendiary, some people think hateful spokesman. The question is whos next . Is he going to get Vladimir Putin to campaign for him on gay rights . Paul, you really think thats a fair comparison . Okay. Paul, go ahead. Why dont you let me make my point. This is about the judgment of the politicians who choose to associate with him. He is a rock n roller, he is going to speak that way. We all get that. Thats his right, by the way. Weve talked about this before. I think name calling is part of the american politics from the beginning. Yes, you have. Thats fine. He has to deal with that. The question is, why does a politician of all the people you can associate with, why does he choose that guy . I think hes trying to send a message that he wants to align himself with those extremist views. Its about greg abbott, not about ted nugent. Anna, that is the core of this, which is whats going to define the gop which is these very strident, very particular points of view. Which apply to a base that is part of the gop that alienates a lot of people. Greg abbott appears to be more afraid of losing that group, that core group of gun rights advocates than of appealing to anybody in the middle of the aisle. I frankly think, erin, it was a complete mistake by greg abbott to bring him out. For all intents and purposes, greg does not have a primary. The primary in texas is march 4th. And for pull intents and purposes, he doesnt even have an opponent. Hes going to coast through that. Hes got, as ben mentioned, an 11point lead over his general opponent. He doesnt need to bring out ted nugent to prove his bonafides on the Second Amendment. I think hell bring out somebody you just cant control. Hes a loose cannon. When i heard yesterday from nugent was even when hes trying to have a policy debate, even when hes trying to heed the advice of his brother and his wife and his children, he has a very hard time controlling what he says and how he says it. Anything can get under his skin. But i do want to point out that i think its rather unfair to try to point the gop, the Republican Party, as ted nugent. Ted nugent is not an elected republican, not in any way have any sort of office as a republican, not at a county or state level, at a federal level, not at any level. Hes a rocker who has a Second Amendment advocacy position. It was a mistake by abbott to bring him out because hes becoming a distraction. Its mitt romneys son that gone on twitter championing when ted nugent endorsed his father. Playing at inaugurations from rick perry, perrys hesitation to denounce it. Thats the broader issue. The broader issue is this. I have to tell you, i actually heard rick perry denounce what ted nugent said and i heard rand paul denounce it. Rick perry did on repeated questioning from wolf blitzer. Right. But why should people be denouncing somebody thats not even in elected office . I think the Republican Party has done a much better job recently in denouncing republicans that say outrageous things that are in elected office. Can you Police Everybody out there . I can tell you, i have absolutely no qualms, none, in saying that what he said is condemnable, it is refutable, it is just despicable. Sit no way to speak about any human much less the president of the United States. Anna, im just saying a lot of these other people are not as quick to say what youre saying. Theyre not. Theyre doing it under pressure, under questioning and not saying theyre not going to be seen with him. Because hes ted nugent. Ben, go ahead. Part of it is because hes just ted nugent. Hes not the president. Hes not running for senate. Go ahead, ben. Heres the core of this is, you have to take ted nugent in context. And what paul did a moment ago is exactly what im talking about of overplayings the hand here. Look at bill clinton today. Bill clinton, the former president of the United States of america who hooked up with an intern in the oval office for goodness sakes has a 60 Approval Rating because people still look at the grand what he did as president of the United States of america. Democrats are campaigning with him today. And they look past that because they saw there was a personal mistake. Ted nugent made a mistake. He made a mistake in what he said. Thats the thing that people look at. Final word goes to paul. Ben, i have to beg you we stop using Monica Lewinsky from 20 years ago when we are discussing politics. I dont think were helping ourselves. The point is though people look past failures. Theres a lot of points we can take issue with in regards to bill clinton or Hillary Clinton who might be the potential candidate. I dont want to go back to relitigating what we did, what he did 20 years ago. Please. Final word goes to paul, the democrat. Hes been very silent. I think im trying to be polite here. My goodness, this is a lively debate. I think the final word is this. The democrats have chosen the face of their party is barack obama and bill clinton. You think of democrats, thats how should think of. Of course, Hillary Clinton. Hillary, please run. Im begging you. The face of the Republican Party now is ted nugent, Rush Limbaugh hog said vial things about the woman from george two to testified on cotra septives. Vile things. Thats the face of the Republican Party. Republicans have to get a better face. They need anna navarro. You should become the face of the Republican Party. There we go. Thank you very much, we appreciate that. All three of you taking time. Coming up, ted nugents brother jeff is up front and thinks his brother crossed the line. Plus the man behind caddyshack, ghostbusters and groundhog day. Why hes the ultimate underdog. And the war on the wealthiest 1 . And did president obama fire a round at the rich or leveling the Playing Field. We have got to build an economy that works for everyone, not just a fortunate few. Thing. But, manufacturing in the United States means advanced technology. We learned that Technology Allows us to be craft oriented. No ones losing their job. Theres no beer robot that has suddenly chased them out. The technology is actually creating new jobs. Siemens designed and built the right tools and resources to get the job done. Did you run into traffic . No, just had to stop by the house to grab a few things. You stopped by the house . Uhhuh. Yea. Alright, whenever you get your stuff, run upstairs, get cleaned up for dinner. You leave the house in good shape . Yea. Yea, of course. 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Too Many Americans are working harder than ever just to keep up. And its our job to reverse those trends. Weve got to build an economy that works for everyone. Not just a fortunate few. Weve got to restore opportunity for all people. An economy that would work for everyone, not just a fortunate few. The president wants to change that, wants to raise the minimum wage by 39 . Kevin oleary makes a living helping Small Business owners is become millionaires. Thats his job. Hes a judge on shark tank. Make you 100,000 offer for 40 . You thief. You really do come in on a broom. Problem after problem. One of the biggest problems, youve got to listen to this every day. Kevin is outfront today. The president making the point average wages have barely budges. People are working hard not able to achieve the american dream. How can you deny that the economy is only working for a few right now . The numbers dont support that. This vilification of the rich and 1 and the delta between the 1 and everybody else is always has existed in america. Thank goodness thats the case. This is the essence of what makes capitalism work. The problem today is lack of jobs. When you talk about not having a rate hike in wages, its because theres so many people unemployed. Its basically a demand situation. Why is that the case, erin . The president talks about using government policy to level the Playing Field. Thats what we dont need. There are over 20 million Small Businesses in america. That is where the job growth will come from domestically. Because Large Companies have figured out that they can move their jobs offshore and have done that already. Thats why theyve been so successful and created so many earnings, record earnings in the s p. Lets go back to what matters in america, 20 million men and women creating jobs for americans. And the last thing they need is this advice from the president. Heres my question though because according to oxfam, one report, they say the richest 1 in the world own 46 of global wealth. Thats an incredible number. Some people might turn on you and say clearly, governments are supporting the 1 because theyre getting more and more of the wealth. Sure. But lets remember. Why not change policy now and help the less fortunate . Because it would be a huge mistake. The reason theyre the 1 is they created businesses, products and services that were very successful, employed millions of people, paid billions in taxes. And lets not forget, erin, all of the wealth in america doesnt come from government at all. It comes from the back of people like the 1 that created the businesses, hundreds of thousands of jobs, we then tax them and by the way, the 1 get taxed at 38 . The middle class were trying to help only pay 12 on average. The numbers dont support the idea of trying to steal from the rich and give to the poor. This suspect a robin hood society. Steal is a strong word. Look, you cant do that. You cant just decide to come out of the blue and say im going to change policy, change the rules on you who have taken all the risk and created jobs. That doesnt work. Heres what does work. Less government, less taxation, less regulations and let the men and women in Small Business create those jobs for us. They dont need more government. They need less. Whats interesting, youre going about it from a very different way than the president. But it seems to me people like you actually agree with him on something thats very important. What would that be . Let me play it for you. I have it here. No matter who you are, where you come from, what you look like, how you started out, if you are willing to work hard and take responsibility, you can get ahead in america. You have to agree with every word of that. Of course i do. But to make that easier for me, if i was running a business with lets say five employees and i was thinking of hiring two more, i wouldnt want you to increase my labor costs by 39 . Because then i cant employ any more people. In fact, i dont want you telling me what i should be paying them. I want the market to do that. Youre talking about the minimum wage here. But the cbo, Congressional Budget Office has said, you would bring a lot of people out of poverty by doing this. Thats not the job of policy in the private sector. What we should be doing to get people out of the situation theyre in and unemployment and poverty is creating more jobs so that everybody has that opportunity to work. Thats what americans want to do, they want to find a job. Havent you had it your way . People say look what happened to wall street. There was a lack of regulation. What happened there . That was a disaster. Minimum wage has been where it is for a long time. Jobs havent been created. I could say look, your way is not working. It is working. Trouble with our job situation is our anemic growth. You know, our 3 less gdp growth when china is growing at 5 and 6 and 7 . We have created such a Regulatory Environment today, even a Small Business has to spend 20,000 to 30,000 just complying with the 2800 regulations we layered on them federally last year, let alone the state and local. You know, erin, i invest in Small Businesses every week. Thats what i do. Im an investor. You should have these people talk to you. Or even better still, let the president talk to somebody running a 17person business in massachusetts or 30 employees in california. And hear what they say. They would not agree with him. And i think that is the core and the essence of america that were not listening to. We need to listen to these people. They should tell us what to do. What they want right now is less government. Thank you very much. I remember, by the way, the president saying he was going to go back and cut a whole lot of regulations. There was a big push for that. When you say 2800 on average, im going to assume you know your stats on that. Thats horrific. Thats probably something you could agree with the president on, too. Paying tribute to a comeky icon tonight. The actor, writer and director died yesterday. And today, president obama paid tribute saying when we watched his movies, we questioned authority, we identified with the outsider, we rooted for the underdog, and through it all, we never lost our faith in happy endings. Bill, you have been looking into rammis. If you came of age during the dawn of hbo, he is our orson welles. Did you know that and ot first day of first grade, harold ramos was sent to the Principals Office for chewing gum. He remembers thinking well, there goes college. But a tortured rebel he was not. See, harold was the kind of kid who spent his bar mitzvah money on wall to wall carpeting for his parents. When he made it to Washington University in the 60s, his tool of anarchy was comedy. The satire he wrote in school helped him get into the second city and to avoid vietnam he told the army he was a bed wet we are night sweats and attraction to men something he would use in the great movie stripes. Were not homosexual but we are willing to learn. Yeah, would they send us some place special . In the early days, harold wanted to act as much as write or direct but then he saw a guy named John Bellushi on stage in chicago and his confidence as a Scene Stealer plummeted. So he adjusted. Instead of competing with fellow comics, he began to write and direct to their strengths. Was it over when the germans bombed pearl harbor . Hell no german . Forget it, hes patrol rolling. Animal house was his first stab at screen writing. In the process, he saw himself as otter, the smart ass bon vivant, the leader of the antiestablishment pack. That will same soul showed up in meatballs and caddyshack and stripes and ghostbusters a string of film that turned it ramos and murray into the lenin and mccartney of comedy that inspires a whole new generation of funny including a teenaged judd apatow who begged him for a meeting to better understand the master and tweeted this photo yesterday as the condolences began rolling in. Its amazing when you talk about every one of them icons in their own way. Theres been a huge outpouring from hollywood. What he saw as funny, had he brand of comedy changed over the years, right . It evolved because like the rest of us adulthood happened. He had a marriage end and he, well, he put on a lot of weight and then lost it and then put on more. He entered therapy, discovered buddhism. And then he started making movies about selfdiscovery and redemption. Who is your perfect guy . First of all, hes too humble to know hes perfect. Thats me. Hes intelligent. Supportive. Funny. Intelligence, supportive funny. Me. Me, me. Groundhog day, such a huge chord with everyone from buddhists to christians to psychoanalysts who found meeting in a selfevolved character doomed to live the same day till he becomes a better person. The ironic casualty of that film was his friendship with bill murray. They had a falling out after rapping and didnt speak for almost two decades. Ive had dreams about him that we were friends again ramis said in 2010 before a rare disease laid him low. He had to learn to walk again, suffered a relapse, never recovered. Among those who visited his chicago home towards the end, bill murray. But before we get maude lynn here, it would be it would shame the memory of harold ramis if we got toot sentimental. Let us go into his memorial eating twinkies and singing boom chaka laka and quoting caddyshack. 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Reporter shes not going to say what shes really going to do. Heres how we think its going to go down. Tomorrow she will meet with stakeholders and legislators to figure out how all of this came down. We expect on either thursday or friday she will issue a veto. That is not a done deal yet, though. The organizers of the protests here are certainly getting more organized. Tonight has a theme, welcome back jan for jan brewer and promise to be here every single night until theres a decision. Veto, veto, veto. Reporter protests here turning into a movement. The socalled religious freedom bill now a rallying point for lesbian and gay rights. Ive had a boyfriend for the past three years. I know how i feel about him. If i felt that way about a girl, then i wouldnt want people to tell me i couldnt be with them. What prompted the bill . Legal cases against businesses with religious owners denying services to lesbian or gay couples seeking to hold a marriage ceremony. A photographer in new mexico, a florist in washington state, a baker in colorado with support for gay marriage in arizona now hitting 55 in a recent Rocky Mountain poll, the writing here on the wall. People who have deeply held religious beliefs dont believe that samesex marriages, commitment ceremonies any of that should be taken. They see that as the threat, yes . That definitely is a part of it. And the crux of the issue here, what theyre saying is they shouldnt be forced to use artistic expression, whether its a photographer, a cake baker to celebrate something they hold a sincerely held religious belief. Another concern, reproductive rights. Employees oppose to any Birth Control suing employers for offering those services through health insurance. Big chaen companies, including apple and American Airlines have asked the governor to veto the bill. A growing storm on several fronts against it. Frustrating to be where you are now though . Its disappointing and sad we cant have an honest discussion about religious freedom and it turns into this big debacle that its turned into. Other conservative groups defending Business Owners with deep religious beliefs view this as a culture war that is only growing. We are seeing certainly a growing hostility and a push from the socalled tolerance crowd to say you know, were not going to be tolerant towards your views but you have to bow down to ours. When the governor does make her decision, we believe that will be a vote toe and also expect her to use that opportunity to talking about arizona, the debate that has happened here and make it basically a platform for whatever it is she decides to do. Erin . Miguel, thank you very much. Covering that story from phoenix. Today is, conservative radio show host Rush Limbaugh said governor brewer is being bullied into vetoing if bill. Heres rush. The same sex homosexual advocates want her to veto it on the basis of human rights, civil rights, gay rights and what have you. The governor of arizona is being bullied, by the homosexual lobby in arizona and elsewhere. Outfront tonight, tony perkins from the Family Research council that will supports the bill and supported similar bills in at least eight other states across the country. What do you think about what rush just said . Is governor brewer being bullied by the gay lobby in order to advance their agenda . I think whats happened, the water has been muddied. No question about that. Too many people have gone to the nancy pelosi school of Public Policy and going to dispose of this and then read it. Its a onepage bill. Its pretty easy. It amends a 1999 law that essentially does three things. The major thing it does is it says you dont have to leave your faith within the walls of your church or home. As a businessperson, it makes clear that you have religious freedoms as a business owner. It also sets in place, which is the opponents should support this, it puts in place a clear test to make sure these are orthodox genuine religious beliefs. So it would be very hard as some have tried to portray in that if you own an ice cream shop you could deny serving someone who was a homosexual. Not true. You couldnt do that. Theres no basis for that in religion. Were talking about marriages, about those ceremonies that really when you participate in them as described in the package about being artistic, youre affirming of something that runs counter to your religious beliefs. Youre saying i cant ban i have the bill in front of me two pages for me saying you can do this if the persons refusal to act is motivated by religious belief. Youre saying to me if im someone could ban me from coming in if i was married to another woman but not if i was simply a lesbian and not married to the woman . Its gay marriage thats your problem . That is it sets in place this has to be a religious belief that is deeply held and you cant just come up and create a religion. You cant come up and say, im not going to serve somebody this food and that would be inconsistent with a christian world view. Christians want to serve people. Where the issue is, and this is what happened in new mexico, what drove this was that you had a christian Photography Company that was sued for not photographing a samesex wedding ceremony. Thats the issue here is that the reason they the rifra of that state new mexico didnt cover it is because theyre a business. The same thing right now with the hhs mandate thats going to be argued before the Supreme Court next month. Rasmussen polling a couple of months ago conducted a nationwide polling. 85 of americans agree that a christian photographer should not be forced to participate in a same sex wedding. Thats what this is about is making sure that as an individual, when you enter the marketplace, you dont have to leave your religious freedom behind. As an individual, you can already do that. Someone could say to me if i was getting married to another woman just say no. They dont have to give me the reason for doing that, right . This is institutionalizing in law something that would not only enable you to do that it would seem but there are a lot of other things that religion may condone we could all agree might be discriminatory to a lot of people. Right . People can do anything they want in the name of religion and say its a deeply held conviction. It just happens to be hateful. So now its protected . Erin, i have to disagree with you on that. Thats why the third component of this amendment is important. Is that it puts in place this has to be a not just some kind of belief you pull out of the sky. Youve got to be able to defend that belief and it sets up a standard which its not a given. You would have this defense but its not a given when you go into court. You would have to prove you have a genuine religious conviction that prevents you from participating in this. You cant say that about not serving someone. Im only speaking for the christian faith. You cant say that because theres no biblical basis for that. Were told to serve those who oppose us. It comes to the issue of weddings, those things which christians and other people of faith hold to be sacred and to be forced to participate in that, i have to say, erin, that is the height of being unamerican. I dont understand how anyone was forcing you. Thats what i dont get. You can always say no to that. I got married and called someone and said can you take photographs of my wedding . He could have said no without giving me a reason. Now you have a law that allows him to say because youre a lesbian. Thats not the case. Thats why this is taking place. Colorado a baker was charged and even threatened with jail till they changed the law for not baking a cake. Elaine photography, fined, went to the state Supreme Court. Because they were a business, they didnt have the individual protections. Theyre appealing to the United States Supreme Court. So youre actually agreeing that we ought to have the ability to say no. That ability is not there right now. Im not agreeing. Im just saying that we have it on an individual basis. I dont want to confuse that with us agreeing. Thats the point. Its allowing them to take into the market place. Right now they cant. Tony, thank you. Still to come, a tale of two brothers. And Justin Timberlake flipped off during one of his concerts. Wait until you see how he responded. [ car alarm chirps ] [ male announcer ] we dont just certify our preowned vehicles. 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During our interview yesterday, ted credited his brother jeff for helping him to decide to change his ways. Whether its my wonderful wife, my brother jeff and john or someone like you, people around me think ill be more effective if i back off that rock n roll stage rhetoric. Jeff joins me now. Thanks very much. And im glad you came out front because a lot of People Struggle to understand your brother. He obviously has very significant following, cult following some would a say. People who care a lot and deeply about the Second Amendment. You had a conversation with him about his recent rhetoric. How do you tell him to tone it down . Well, erin, im delighted to be here, but its a conversation weve been having for longer than you can imagine. And i think ted referred to that last night because my advice to him over the years has been, please tone it down. And theres a line that you shouldnt cross. And his latest comments about president obama and Hillary Clinton have crossed the line. And i was offended with those. And he knows that. And i was, frankly, very pleased to see the conversation you had with him last night because he did apologize for making those statements. And not a direct quote, but in front of you and cnn and your millions of viewers, he promised not to call people names in the future. And i i respect him for doing that. And as ive said, i will continue to be the cattle prod and the adviser as he goes through life fulfilling that promise. Do you think he can keep that promise . He went on ben fergusons program earlier today. I listened to an interview today. He called the president a racist. That could be described as calling someone a name. And i havent seen that. So i didnt bring my cattle prod with me because its not allowed in new york city. But i am very serious about helping ted calm his rhetoric down and be more factbased than attack individuals in an inappropriate way. But why does he do these things . Hes known as this. Some people say he does it because he wants the attention and publicity. If he didnt hurl these insults at people people wouldnt Pay Attention to him. Is that why he does it . I think its very simple. I think its very clear that teds very passionate about the things that he believes in. And part of his personality is that he is provocative. So you put those two things together and it comes out the way you see it. I agree with him on some points, but i disagree vehemently on others. Like you said, you thought what he said about the president was utterly inappropriate. Over the line. Theres no reason why you would call the president what he did. And ive told him that. And hes admitted that that was a mistake. And what it really boils down to and ill get right to the issue here is that i am amazed at the attention that his comments and his vocabulary has gotten the attention that it has when were dealing with so many more substantial issues in this country. And the fact that ted actually uses the vocabulary he does is inconsequential relative to the will of the people of the United States. And as we discussed earlier today, im amazed that there are so many surveys out, and im convinced that our government is not paying attention to the will of the people. And the associated press, the university of chicago conducted an Extensive Survey in december. And the number one issue facing the United States according to the people interviewed the economy. Is the economy. And its twice the level of concern that health care is. Which i would include obamacare as part of it. Right. You go down the list, and both of those are five, six times the level of concern that immigration represents, that the environment and Global Warming represents. And since whenever you talk about ted nugent, the subject of guns and gun control comes up, they fail to even meet the top ten list. Fair point. So if you listen to the people of the United States, the leaders that we have in washington are not paying attention to the will of the country. And as far as im concerned, if you want to talk about embarrassment and not listening to what the people are saying, then its very clear that both houses of congress have embarrassed themselves more than i think my brother ever did. A lot of people would disagree with that. But i have to leave it there. Thank you very much. Appreciate your taking the time, jeff. Out front next, a fan flips off Justin Timberlake during a concert. What was his response . Jeanne moos reports next. Seeke. You can separate runway ridiculousness. From fashion that flies off the shelves. And you. Rent from national. Because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. And go. And only national is ranked highest in car rental Customer Satisfaction by j. D. Power. natalie ooooh, i like your style. vo so do we, business pro. So do we. Go national. Go like a pro. 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Even if youre Justin Timberlake, every now and then someone flips you the bird. Heres jeanne moos. Reporter Justin Timberlake has given us a heck of a lesson in how to handle a heckler. In this case a female with an upraised finger. Why are you flipping me off . You got second row to flip me the bird . That makes no [ mute ] sense. Though this concert in philadelphia took place back in november, its only now gone viral. The heckler said she wanted timberlake to see her. Timberlake imitated her getting ready for the concert, planning her fingerwagging, attentiongetting strategy. Know what . I know what we should do. Reporter the fan who shot this video won the concert tickets and a trip to philly in a contest. Hes so charming. Reporter Stephanie Lowe was especially impressed with how he handled the heckler. Ive seen a lot of comedians get heckled. Usually they kind of throw it back at the person, kind of insult them. Reporter daniel tosh for instance is known for dishing it out to hecklers. Were going to edit you out. Like your parents wish they could . Reporter how about comedian Jamie Kennedy who was interrupted when he used the word waitress. Theyre called servers. Well, id like you to serve you mouth shut. Reporter Justin Timberlake wasnt serving up put downs. He made it really positive. He laughed at it, got the whole crowd laughing. Reporter he turned the finger into a kumbayah moment. Lets all do it at the same time so we get this over with. Reporter if thats the perfect way to handle a heckler, what would be the imperfect way . Ask kanye west. When fans asked kanye to take off the mask he was wearing, kanye took it personally. Are you trying to tell me how to give you my heart . Reporter he had security remove the fan. Do i look like a [ mute ] comedian . Im kanye [ bleep ] west we wouldnt have mistaken him for Justin Timberlake, whos put his finger on how to handle a heckler. 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