We have breaking news. New details on the fiscal cliff deal that Timothy Geithner put on the table today during his meeting with congressional leaders on the hill. These details just coming in. Jessica yellin has that and what have you learned about what geithner took you know, listed out with the numbers and put on the table . Hey, erin, here are some of the details im getting from senior officials on both sides. The headline is that he put out a number of 1. 6 trillion in new taxes. That was at according to republican officials, a surprise. They expected a much smaller number and that has some republicans crying foul. He proposes extending unemployment insurance. Continuing the dock fix. Thats approving additional spending on medicare to pay doctors. The amt patch protecting middle income americans. 50 billion in stimulus next year and in return, the administration would offer 400 billion in additional medicare and other entitlement savings next year to be spelled out as they negotiate. There would also be an agreed mechanism for allowing a vote on a debt ceiling increase for perpetui perpetuity. Republicans not pleased with this. Already publicly crying foul. The white house says the president has already signed into law one trillion dollars in tax cut last year. Theyre willing to compromise more, but rig now, both sides seem more dug in than before. A day that was pretty grim on that front. Thanks very much and that 1. 6 trillion, everyone, surprising republicans and a crucial number especially when contrasted with the 4 billion this entitlement cuts. I want to tell you the republican response as jessica indicated. They didnt want anything to do with geithners plan. Yesterday, john boehner moved the markets higher. It was joyful talk about a possible deal, but today, it was like a breakup over tax. He went from love to disgust. Here he is right after tim geithner put that deal on the table. No progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over the last two weeks. All right. Thats pretty grim. Stocks lost early games on that news and the day went downhill. Harry reid slapped back. Still waiting for a serious offer from the republicans. So, they agree on something. No progress. But then it actually went beyond that. Reid got a little personal. I dont understand his brain so you should ask him, okay . Funny, but really not so funny. So what happens when the men in charge start throwing sand in the sand box . We just go over the cliff like some are now suggesting . Recall what err skine bowles said two weeks ago. I think thats crazy. You know, why would you bet the country . Really bet the country by going over this fiscal cliff. Crazy . Betting the country . Well, according to the congressional budget office, bowles has a good reason for saying what he did. The economy would go into a recession, economic output would drop and Unemployment Rate would go back up to 9. 1 by the end of next year. Now, the clock is ticking. John and harry, get out of the sand box. 33 days are left. Peter difazio of oregon is outfront tonight. Let me just get a response from you about Timothy Geithners plan that he put on the table. 1. 6 trillion in revenue. 400 billion in cuts. Im a little confused because the president said he will give 2. 50 in spending cuts for every dollar in revenue. This is, this is the opposite. Well, finally, the white house has learned not to negotiate with itself, but with the opposition, which is the republicans. Remember, there is no real cliff. On january 1st, the only thing that goes away is the Social Security tax holiday and nobody is seriously talking about continuing that. All the other tax increases dont take place until sometime around march. Gives congress plenty of time to rekrit them, but thats 4 trillion of additional revenues. So okay, were going to cut that more than in half. That will probably mean reagan era rates on capital gains. Clint era rates on higher income people and youre getting close to 1. 6 trillion, so i dont think its that unreasonable and the key thing he put forward today and im pleased because ive been raising this for more than a month. We need to put people back to work in this country and if we funded a robust transportation infrastructure bill as part of this package and put a couple of Million People back to work, a lot of the deficit goes away. Didnt they say that last time . I didnt vote for that and the word stimulus is totally discredited. It did not 7 of that bill was investment and infrastructure. 42 was tax cuts. Weve been trying tax cuts for more than a decade. They dont put people back to work. Real investment does. We have report after report, economist after economist, Real Investment will put millions of people back to work. Right. Those were tax cuts of the vast middle in this country. What you want to extend and the republicans. Im still confused. If the president wants 1. 6 trillion in revenue and is going to do his math, thats 3 trillion in cuts. Why only put 400 billion out . Well, hes probably leaving himself a little room to negotiate. A little. Is reasonable on medicare. If he just started negotiating lower drug prices, that saves medicare 230 billion over ten years. And then you deal with some of these high cost private insurance plans under medicare and a couple of other minor changes that wont hurt average american, wont make them wait until 67 to get medicare, we could get the 400 billion there. When the president earlier had talked about medicare, not today, but before, he has said yes, i support raising the age on medicare from 65 to 67. Simpson bowles talked about raising the age. Most people do and say thats really going to be the only way to get out of this. You really think we dont have to make real changes or is that just, i understand your constituents dont want you to say anything. That doesnt teal with the cost of Prescription Drugs. Fair. With overpriced and unnecessary medical care and finally, if we did extend the age to 67 rngs xwe . Guess what . Theyd have to go to the obama exchanges and with low incomes and get subsidies there to buy private insurance which probably in the end would be more expensive than medicare, so actually, you would just move from here to here and you might even increase the deficit. Interesting point, but i still find it a little bit hard to believe. When you say we dont have to make substantive change to a program thats going to consume all of our federal spending if we keep going the way were going, we do need to make substantial changes. Its going to hurt. I didnt say that. Im part of the Quality Health care coalition. We want to move to out space medicine. We want every state to be as efficient as my state and 16 other states who provide care at about the third of the cost of florida and fourth of the cost of new york. We need to rationalize the system across the country and go to those states that are wasting a bumpbl of money and make them more efficient providers. We need to negotiate the Prescription Drug prices saving a quarter of a trillion dollars and you know, we need to reign in these private Health Insurance plans that are living off medicare. Those are real changes. All right. Let me ask you this though. You said there is no cliff. Cbo says theres a cliff. It doesnt all hit on day one. But the fact of this country and you guys in washington not being able to get a deal done just the atmosphere, the frustration and the fear that could create, how can you say thats not a cliff . Well, a lot of hysteria out there, but again, the fact is only the Social Security tax holiday goes away. The with holding tables dont change. No ones taxes go up in january. The cuts through se quest dont go into effect immediately and i would Hope Congress would make discreet cuts instead of stupid across the board cut, so we would have time to get to work on january 3rd and deal with restoring tax bets to middle income and working families and deal with a more discreet way of reducing spending. And youd be willing to take it if the market reacted incredibly negatively. You think thats manageable . Im not sure why that would happen. Because you know, wall streets very good at managing hysteria. I opposed the t. A. R. P. Bailout. They can only manipulate it so far and then theres real value there that will come back. Oh, i wish that we could talk about t. A. R. P. Lets do it another time because i think that would be a fascinating conversation. Thanks very much, sir. 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You know, you start thinking about whats really important here. Victory for palestinians. The u. N. General assembly voted in favor of palestinian state hood. We want to show you the wild celebrations going on right now. This is the west bank. After the u. N. Overwhelmingly gave the palestinians something they have wanted for years and the vote was pretty overwhelming. 138 countries in favor. It was a shellacking for those against it. The resolution passed against the will of the United States, israel, canada and six other nations. Heres u. N. Ambassador susan rice after the vote. Todays unfortunate and counterproductive resolution places further obstacles in the path to peace. That is why the United States voted against it. Now, the vote gives the palestinians a higher profile at the u. N. And more important, it also means they can join organizations like the International Criminal court. That is important because it could allow the palestinians to pursue war crime charges against israel. Outfront tonight, the prime min sfer. Good to see you. So, what does this vote mean for israel . It doesnt mean anything. I think it means resolution because if youd like to get the sate, it should be on negotiations. Theyve got a good support of one country, israel. And they would get it only if the will is negotiations. Whats happened today is that the community gave them a mandate between the palestinians because according to the conference, it says theyre very clear that no one can take a unilateral move and they took the unilateral move against the will of israel and i think that if you dont respect their signature or agreement, they would keep the agreement, it would be made, be given and thats what we cant stand. Theyve wanted decades to have a twostate solution and israel, you say you want one, but keep say iing theres negotiations, but dont get one, so they feel this is their only way. No, because they can get any resolution at the u. N. I want to mention and to remind you, in 1988, in 2008, that very similar. What does it mean . They got the state. They can get the state from negotiations. They did everything to prevent negotiations. Turn to netanyahu and ask him to accept the idea of twostate resolution. To freeze the settlements. Still didnt show up, but not om us, our predecessors negotiated for a very long time. 98. 5 of territories and still didnt get an agreement. All right, all this may be true, but the countries in the middle east that recognize you all voted for this. It was only nine countries. The United States was alone. Italy, france, they voted for palestine. Does todays vote worry you that okay, its you and the u. S. , but the u. S. Has lost power and influence. Isra israels losing power and influence. Most in arab countries and those from the third World Without always against israel. Italy, france. Okay, so italy, france and others joined in. Because they filled it after the declaration is very poor to helping, encouraging to strength. The only way to do it is slow negotiations. And negotiations means to give and take. Not willing to take any kind of if they were glad to come, they can find us willing. You talk about how why some of the European Countries might have voted for this, but you know, everyone said that hamas gained a lot of power. Hamas doesnt recognize your right to exist. The plo does. Abbas. Is it possible the win today gives him a boost . That this is something that is good for you . First, it raised the question if he represents the whole palestinians or only half of them. Only the west bank as you have just mentioned. Hamas dont recognize the right of israel to exist, so what we are dealing with here is the palestinian people. Thats first. The second thing is more important. They are violating their signature with israel. It makes those that are opposing the Peace Process in israel and in the arab world much more powerful because they always tell us, dont believe the palestinians. They will never, never implement their commitments and they show us once again that we are committed not to make a lateral move. Well negotiate for the final start agreement. Unfortunately, those that oppose the idea to them was the palestinians become more powerful and the community helped them to accept or to convince the israel Public Opinion that there is no one for us. Thank you very much. We appreciate your coming on. 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His lawyer argues and many others who have followed the case argues he was ordered to coerce him into a confession that would bring down me or wikileaks. Pentagon has maintained manning was held in accordance with rules regarding all maximum custody detainees. If convicted, they could go for life in prison. Outfront tonight, Chris Lawrence is is at the pentagon. Manning and his defense team, they have been claiming that the private was held in harsh conditions. He said quote, im going to die. Im stuck inside this cage and he also said i have pretty much given up. My world had just shrunk. What else was in his testimony. He was very calm. Dressed in his dress blues and described what it felt like in that first prison in kuwait. He said thats where he thought about suicide, then he was transferred to quantico, where he spent about five months in solitary confinement and he said that really brought him back to kuwait. He said i felt like i was being dragged back into that hole, so we heard a lot of description about what it was like for him under that sort of confinement. Now, the military argues that keeping him was getting the circumstances. This is espionage. Giving away secrets of the United States. Something that could get the Death Penalty even though theyre not going for that. Are they making that case . They say at the time, he was a maximum security detainee who posed a threat to himself and others, but today, what we heard on the stand was manning giving some different perspective to some of those incidents. He said the guards looked at him and there was some concern because he was playing peekaboo with himself in the mirror or dancing to music when there was no music playing. He said it was out of sheer boredom. He said he wasnt allowed to lay down during the day. Nothing to do in that cell for 24 hours, so he used himself to keep himself occupied. We heard of some chinks in the governments case because the marine commander justified that he was telling his higher ups apt the pentagon that quantico was no place to keep manning for any period of time and recommended he stay there no longer than 90 days. Manning ended up there three times that long and we heard from a navy doctor who said he was advised the base commanders that he was to be taken off suicide watch. The government will be questioning manning tomorrow. Another republican defies Grover