So possible progress this morning in a Longterm Nuclear standoff. Iran in direct talks with the u. S. About scaling back its nuclear ambitions. Were live. It was awesome, there were people sprinting to go and see this fish. It was awesome. It is a rare 18foot sea monster discovered off the coast of california. How one snorkeler made the discovery of a lifetime. Everybody is excited. Thats one weird looking fish right there. I dont want to call it ugly because i dont want insult it. I dont think it cares. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to early start. Im john berman. And im score ride za sambolin. Its wednesday, october 16th, and its 4 00 a. M. In the east. Were pretty much there, folks. Pretty much deadline day. Just a few hours to go before his country flies head first in the debt ceiling where the u. S. Begins to run out of money to pay its bills. This morning, all eyes were on the leaders of the senate to work out an additional deal. We pretty much know the parameters of this plan. The plan to fund the government and until february. This cups after an absolutely wild day on capitol hill when House Speaker john boehner tried to seize control of this debate only to have it blow up in his face thanks to opposition from inside his own caulk cause. This morning, even if a deal can be reached it might not be in time to avert some serious prepare cushions. In fact, some of those repercussions have hit already. Our cnn correspondent jim acosta begins our coverage. Reporter time is running out. The debt ceiling is in sight and the last best hope of avoiding a potential default once again rests with Senate Leaders harry reid and Mitch Mcconnell. Were back to working on a last minute deal. John boehner will essentially have to pass the bill between senators mcconnell and reid. Reporter president obama called for quick action. We dont have a lot of time, so what im suggesting to the congressional leaders is, lets not do any posturing. Lets not try to save face. Reporter the president appeared to put the blame on House Speakers John Boehners inability to corral tea partybacked republicans. There have been situation where is we have agreements and he goes back and he cant control his caucus. Reporter that caucus is once again up in arms despite bainers tough talks. Ive made clear for months and month, that the idea of default is wrong. Reporter the speaker failed to convince house conservatives to line up between republican proposals to lift the debt ceiling and the shutdown. It didnt matter anyway, as reid said the plans were dead on arrival. Theyre attempting to torpedo the senates bipartisan progress with a bill that cant pass the senate. Reporter that portrait was all the Fitch Ratings needed to see. Fitch issued a warning that would downgrade the nations Credit Rating, a potential of what Standard Poors did after the last debate of 2011. Although fitch said it could ring soon, some house conservatives were brushing off talks of dire consequences. October 17th is not the drop dead date. There are no payments due for a couple weeks. The latest falk is we could see a vote as early as today. First in the house and then in the senate later in the week. The house said they will have to start picking and choosing which bills to pay. Lets bring in mary belle aber to find out. October 17th, though, is the day that treasury secretary jack lew has said that the u. S. Will run out of money to pay all its debts until the Borrowing Limit is raised. Its estimated that the u. S. Will have 30 billion on hand plus the money coming in from tax receipts. The 17th isnt that drop said date, zoraida as far as the default goes. Whatever the case is read of the default has been unsettling investors and driving rates on the shortest direction of the u. S. Treasure tore just in case theres disruption on the treasurys ability to the pay out on the bonds. Lets walk through the dates. October 17th, coming up. The plan runs out of shoreterm funding moves. And then october 22nd, the cbo estimates government exhausts reserves and starts missing payments. This is where it gets very critical. October 23rd, 12 billion in Social Security payments are scheduled. October 31st, cbo estimates a cash balance of 6 billion interest, payment that is due. And november 1st, 55 billion in medicare, Social Security and military payments. Those are all scheduled. So thats the scary time that were all the waying for here. Talk to you about fitch. This Credit Agency just gave a pretty stern warn to get United States here. Weve been sort of through this before, where the u. S. Was literally downgraded we at risk again. Okay. Lets talk about that, Credit Rating fitch put the u. S. , well call it, on notice. We walked down this road before. The American Government could get a downgrade in its aaa Credit Rating. Thats if the debt ceiling crisis is not resolved. Analysts say they believe it will be over soon. The potential over this debt increase could increase the risk of default. You mentioned, standard downgraded it to aa, plus in 2011, fitch still has the u. S. In aaa right now. Lets remember the economy is in a fragile state. Were not looking at a full housing recovery. We still have unemployment high. And the Housing Market just trying to come around the bend. The scary part is these Interest Rates that could go up. Think about banks. Not being able to loan to banks. Theyre not going to loan to another bank. What does that mean to you and i . If a bank wont loan to another bank, they wont loan to you and i right . What are the markets saying . You mentioned theyre really scared by november 1st. Were not there yet. Investors around the world, though, actually seem optimistic. Im looking at asian markets. Not a lost volatility there. Actually, the nikkei was up. Futures, though, are actually higher. Thats because harry reid and Mitch Mcconnell are saying theyre going to sit down and come up with something this morning. There is no extra time to spare now. They got to get it done before the rest of the world and the financial situation crumbles. When you talk about that downgrade that warning, when did that happen . At what point do they say theyre actually going to downgrade . Thats what we dont know. We are all watching with bated breath this deal. They could do it at anytime. I wonder about the deadlines is my question. You have the october 17th deadline and then they throw on the november 1st deadline. If you read between the lines of what fitch is saying, no matter what you do, were disgusted with the u. S. Already. Thats right. Kind of across the country, other country, also feeling exactly the same way. Its like how dare you do this to your own economy when it affects us as well. Exactly, especially when you talk about china and russia with so much debt. We like to start on a positive note. Marybel is going to be back to talk about money talk in the world beyond this. One group of lawmakers has had a measure of success working together to end partisan gridlock. Were talking about female senators. Cnns athena jones has more on the special role theyre playing this time. Reporter will the women of the senate save the day . Well, theyve certainly been trying. A plan by senator Susan Collins formed a basis of the key to reopening the government and avoid a default on u. S. Debt. While that prospect may not be uncertain, senate women are still front and center. Collins worked with a Bipartisan Group of senators, men and women, to put her plan together but women were at the forefront, and she says thats know coincidence. So the women of the senate span the ideological spectrum, we certainly dont think alike. We do share in the interest and problem solving and we tend to be more collaborative in our approach thanle of our male colleagues. Reporter republicans kelly ayotte were first to sign on. We have 20 women in the senate now, thats an historic number. Were not shy, were accepting up. Reporter democrats like heidi high camp, amy low beauty char and jean sha sheen were on board. And collins spent all weekend emailing with patty murray to draft language. Women have a history of coming together on the softball field as well. Kirsten gillibrand ex trade theyre. Reporter facing off against the press in a yearly fundraiser. And Debbie Wasserman schultz said when it comes to focusing reporter collins said senate has formed relationships through monthly bipartisan. Bonds that could be key. There is a sisterhood here that transcended party lines and i think in this case has helped to produce results. Reporter athena jones, cnn, capitol hill. Our thanks to athena for that. If more women would make it better in washington, well have 35 women in the senate. Whatever it takes. Its not clear how much progress is being made in washington. But in geneva there are Big Developments to tell you about about Irans Nuclear program. Including a highlevel meeting between a top official from the state department and one of the Foreign Ministry as well. Reza asieh is live. What is the iranian government asking for in return . Reporter well, john, its critical to point out at this point, we dont know the specifics of whats happening in geneva with the situation. They had essentially three demands. They suh say they want to keep their Nuclear Program. They say theyre abiding by international law, not doing anything illegal. They also want to continue enriching uranium. They say thats their right to, based on international law. They may, they signaled, that they may suspend uranium enrichment at 20 and they want to be treated with respect as equals. In return, they want some of these economic sanctions lifted. Obviously, we dont know the outcomes of these talks but that doesnt mean the iranians are short of opinions and prof prognostications and predictions an one of the best ways to gauge is is to talk to one of the cab drivers and we did just that. Translator i think its fine that they come and investigate and see that iran doesnt have bad intentions. Translator iran shouldnt have to give up anything. We shouldnt have to give up our rights. What belongs to us is our business. Translator i dont like for another country to come and make decisions for me. Everything should be based on friendship. Translator the only thing we should give is confidence to the International Community that were not deviating from our Nuclear Programs. Translator our Nuclear Rights belong to us. Why do other countries have theirs but when it comes to iran, they say we cant have it, why . Reporter just a taste of where iranians stand when it comes to nuclear talks. Some are skeptical. Some of optimistic that a deal could be reached. All of them say they should be able continue their Nuclear Program. All of them say they want a settlement to be reached and for all sides to get together and end this 34year conflict. Riza in tehran with taxicab diplomacy. Thank you so much. Fascinating literally for people on the ground. I thought that was good insight. Lets get an early look at the weather with alexandria steele. Good morning. Hi, everyone. Pretty quiet around the country. New york area airports will see low clouds and visibility and a slowdown for a little while. Atlanta, chicago, much cooler, windy condition and lower visibility as well this morning. Heres the forecast, what weve got is this cold front moving through. Behind it temperatures dropping off, a lot of the country, the southwest, the northwest, florida, warm conditions right along the eastern seaboard, still dry until that front makes it toward you later in the week. Biggest changes, minneapolis, chicago, about ten degrees cooler than the past couple of days. The front has passed. The temperatures have dropped but the skies are clearing. 75 in washington. 78 in atlanta, georgia. The warmest spots in florida, sunny skies and 87. Have a great day. Thank you so much. So . The other top story of the evening. A big evening in the berman household. The Boston Red Sox pitching a shutout in game three of the American League championship series. This was an incredibly tense neck and neck game. The only run came right here. Mike nomely, boom a 32 pitch, parks it over the left field wall there. Thats against justin verlander. Not an easy thing to do, by the way. Boston now has a two games to one lead in this series despite just fantastic pitching from detroit. Lets talk about the National League for a second. The st. Louis cardinals, they are looking good, they are just a win away now from advancing to the world series. They beat the dodgers 42. Thats Matt Holliday with a win there. The cards were punch their way to the world series with a win this afternoon in los angeles. How excited are you, berman . I get more nervous than excited as time goes on. Look. That was a really tense game lat night. No hits practically the entire game. Did you actually stay up and watch it . The red sox played in the afternoon. All right. Coming up, al qaeda member appearing in a new york courtroom. What happened when a suspected terrorist faced a judge. And a popular sports supplement pulled in the shelves for containing a material similar to meth. Really. Well have that when we come back. Welcome back to early start, everyone. A terror suspect picked up in libya has now had his day in a u. S. Court facing charges he worked for al qaeda and was involved in a deadly attack on u. S. Embassies in africa. Deborah feyerick has the story. Reporter Abu Anas Al Libi entered the court here in manhatt manhattan. His hands were shackled. He appeared 10 to 15 years older. Through a translator, he said, yes, he understood the charges against him, and no, he could not afford a lawyer. So the attorney next to him entered a not guilty plea to the charges against him. Hes charged conspireing to kill two americans in east africa. And hes also accused of taking surveillance photos in nairobi, kenya. The attack killed 200 people including embassy personnel. A judge signed off on an order for Abu Anas Al Libi suffering from hepatitis c. His family said he was not involved in al qaeda for years. He got out before the attacks took place. And members of a high value detainee team, unclear of what kind of information he did provide, he is expected to be in court again next week. Deborah feyerick, cnn, new york. The maker of craze which say popular sports supplement has suspended production and sale of this product after researchers say they found a methamphetaminelike compound in it. More testing needs to be done to find out if it poses any more health risks. Bust last week, 24 cases of liver failure and one death in hawaii was linked to another similar supplement. Its oxyelite pro. This is serious stuff. Youre taking serious risks with this. People take it to build up their bodies, get better workouts. But when they find substances that are like methamphetamine, my goodness. Be careful with your kids. I know you like sea certain pants. Youre big on sea monster, right . I love them. I absolutely love them. We have a story for you. Take a look at this, thats actually an eightfeetlong oar fish. He was found off the Southern California coast on sunday. Look at that ship there. A marine science instructor found the fish by mistake. Wow. She was snorkeling and sees this giant fish on the bottom of the ocean, swims down, grabs it bit tail and swims it to the beach. It was awesome, there were people sprinting to go and see this fish. Theyre saying this fish likely died of natural causes. Researchers say since oar fish live thousands of people beneath the surface, theyre rarely seen or studied. Oh, my goodness, thats a great way to see it. Plan is to actually bury it to depose and theyll expose the giant skeleton that way, and i suppose study it and have something four the wall. Very big wall, right . I dont think thats what theyre going to do with it. I think they will be studying it. Oar fish. Poor fish . I said oar fish. Welcome back to early start, everyone. It is money time. Marybel aber is backs with again. Im back. Investors around the world waiting to see what will happen next, of course in congress but they arent panicking here. Interesting, japans nikkei closed higher. There are other signs that tooks in europe could be lower. Before today, european stocks rose today, longest in two months. With tomorrow as the deadline to avert the debt ceiling crisis theres no sign that the crisis will resolve. Ratings by fitch, fitch said the political brinkmanship in washington is a default risk. As not clear when fitch will make a final decision on whether to go with downgrading. Were talking about timing, right . If the debt ceiling isnt raised by tomorrow, the Treasury Department wont be able to meet its obligations. Interest payments, military pay, Social Security, how in the world will the government decide which bill to pay. Thats the tough question. One they do not have to face even if they dont reach a deal. Theres hope if the deal is in place, they can stay calm saturday and sunday. Thats the shame were at the edge of a cliff, right . Yes. Its a shame weve been here before. And we keep going again and again. Thank you, marybel, we appreciate it. Well be right back. No deal yet to avert a danger debt deadline. We are less than 18 hours away, folks. So can washington reach a compromise . Even if they do, can they get it done in time to avert disaster . And are we just waiting for the next government crisis anyway . Yes. Pages started popping up on facebook and instagram saying she deserved to die. They were