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Closed captioning brought to you by meso book. Com. The january 6th committee, in a powerful presentation, laying out former president trumps plan to rally his supporters to descend on washington, january 6, with the help of allies who supported his bogus claims of election fraud. Amid committee claims evidence confirmed that clumps call to march on the capital was not a spontaneous call to action. More from ryan nobles. Reporter b january 6 the select committee used their seventh public hearing to build the case that donald trump had a plan, to call his supporters to washington, to march on the capital, and stand in the way of certifying the 2020 election. One witness, stephen ayers, who has since pleaded guilty to entering the capital illegally said he answered trumps call. We didnt plan to go down there, we went basically to see the stop the steel rally and that was it. What did you decide to much to the capitol . Well, basically, you know, the president got everybody riled up, told everybody to head on down. So basically we were just following what he said. Reporter the committee unveiling never before seen depositions of medications among trump insiders, showing that the former president ignored the advice of his own advisers, and instead, leaned on the counsel of election deniers like Sidney Powell, michael flynn, and Rudy Giuliani. I would categorically describe it as, you guys are not tough enough, or, maybe i put it another way. Youre a bunch of excuse the expression. , most certain the word was used. Reporter trump went forward with the efforts to overturn the result anyway. President trump is a 76year old man. He is not an impressionable child. Just like everyone else in our country, he is responsible for his own actions, and his own choices. Reporter a drive that led to a raucous meeting at the white house in the middle of december, when trump wanted to name Attorney Sidney Powell as a special counsel in order to seize Voting Machines. The president said, okay, im naming her that and i am giving her security clearance. Reporter former white House Counsel, Pat Cipollone, testifying that he was displeased to see people like powell and flynn in the oval office and told trump, naming powell special counsel was a grave mistake. Its a terrible idea. Thats not how we do things in the United States. I dont think anyone is providing the president with good advice, and so i didnt understand how they had gotten in. Reporter cipollone also describing his frustration, dealing with people who couldnt produce any evidence of widespread voter fraud. In this regard i would say, a general disregard for the importance of facts. Reporter afterwards, trump shifting gears, but not backing down from his pursuit of pushing election lies, tweeting, the next day, and invitation to his supporters to descend on washington on january 6. Be there. Will be wild, the president wrote. Reporter the Committee Also presented a draft tweet obtained from the national archives, showing trump land before january 6, to tell his supporters, please arrive early , massive crowds expected, march to the capitol after. This, despite members of trumps cabinet and inner circle testifying that they told trump he lost the election and he should concede to biden after the Electoral College met in middecember. I conveyed to him, that i thought that it was time for him to acknowledge that President Biden had prevailed in the election. Did you say he should concede the election at that point in time . Yes i did. Reporter the Committee Plans to hold another hearing next week and it could be a big one. That is where the Committee Plans to outline what they describe as Donald Trumps dereliction of duty, from the 187 minutes of the capitol was under siege , and the committee concluded, the hearing took place on tuesday was a bit of tease ahead for that, and also a note about a potential witness who they say was called out of the blue by the former president , donald trump. They say that witness declined the call and informed his attorney, who then informed the committee. The committee has referred that information to the department of justice for possible witness intimidation. Ryan nobles, thank you very much. We want to bring you now, two Police Officers defending the capitol engineer six, both were injured. Michael is a former Police Officer now a lawenforcement analyst and sergeant michelina ginna roe is with the capitol police. Today, the january 6th committee honored his heroism, his injuries as forced him to leave that job. Gentlemen, thank you. We appreciate you joining us this evening. Mike, i will start with you because youre both at todays hearing sitting with your former colleague, officer harry dunn. The details were disturbing, when it comes to how premeditated and coordinated to january 6th attack was. What was it like to sit there, in that room, and hear that . I mean, it just confirmed what i think each and every one of these hearings has led us to understand, that violence was part of the plan all along. , the former president and those in his inner circle like mark meadows, knew that violence was going to play a part in january 6, and that attempts to stop it, in that, they supported the violence that was eventually played out on genera six. The other takeaway, for me, was the absolute cowardice on behalf of each and every member of the trumpet ministration trump administration, when it came to calling out what took place inside of trumps white house. Have waited months to hear from these people, but i cant understand it. Why did you have to wait months, did i get that correct . Yes, sir. We are having a bit of trouble. You guys may want to try to fix the signal while i talked to sergeant ganahl here. Sergeant, you wrote an oped in the New York Times this weekend, titled, i was betrayed by president trump. What was the impact on you of todays testimony . Thanks for having me, good to see you again. The impact that january 6th had on my life is pretty much, every single part of my life has been upended, you know, the recovery, the painful physical therapy, the mental trauma, not being able to perform my job like i normally was doing, on january 6. And before. Had gotten to a point where i no longer am able to fulfill that job. In my normal capacity. Therefore, i mean, i am being recommended to separate by my doctors and my Mental Health providers as well. Is trying to get along with his life and get back to normal, genera six to me was not just genera six, it has been ongoing and will continue. Even if i leave the department, when i leave the department, i have to be involved in the trial. In the future. Sir, it is not going to end, for me. For a lot of people, that resist that day, and thats it. Sergeant, i want to get to ayers in a second but just talk about not being ill to perform your duties, right . I would just say, congress addressed your situation at the end of the hearing. Last month, on june 28th, sergeant ganahls team of doctors told him that permanent injuries he has suffered to his Left Shoulder and right foot now make it impossible for him to continue as a Police Officer. He must leave policing for good and figure out the rest of his life. Sergeant ganahl, we wish you and your family all the best. We are here for you. We salute you for your valor, your eloquence and your beautiful commitment to america. You said you want to move on. How do you move on from the job you love, sergeant . Today was very emotional, because, prior to me going to the hearing, i was in a room with the fbi agent going over trial prep and stuff like that. I had done police work for 16 years, beginning the 17th just last month. I was excited to i found a couple of weeks ago but i also passed the lieutenant test, based on my scores. And instead of me celebrating that, now i have to plan, possibly, my life after being a Police Officer, because my career has come to a halt. Because of genera six and the people who perpetrated it are still living their life, and they dont care about how many lives he ruined. Just for his loss of power. And still saying that he won an election that he lost. Correct . He mentioned stephen ayers, a capitol rioter who testified today. You said it caught you off guard. Tell me about this moment, and what was said. I know i spoke to you after the hearing, but i want the audience to hear what you thought of it. Yeah. I dont remember what exactly mr. Ayers said to me. Like i said, it kind of caught me off guard. But, to the extent that he apologized, not to take away from his apology. I am not looking for apologies from anybody. I am not looking for apologies from the former president. And those who supported him on january 6th, i just want to count ability. His apology to me didnt really do anything, i hope you did something for him. But that is how i felt about it. Sergeant ganahl, go on, what was it like for you . I feel the same way, just like mike said. That was generally done by him. I distinguish myself and my actions on the things i did on genera six. Somehow, in the future, he will have to answer for the judge, or to his maker, whenever everything is said and done. I know i was trying to live my life, based on my new circumstances. Put it in writing what happened to me, and hopefully somebody picks it up, and if not, i can live with that. People need to learn what happened on january 6th, reinvestigate everything and hold those people who planned out this event, and if they did something right didnt do something, they should be held accountable for what they did. Thank you for joining us. During todays assessment, i heard Pat Cipollone nominate the former Vice President for the president ial medal of freedom. There were 17 individuals i believe who were nominated for president ial medals of freedom. Since they are rolling out nominations, i think that joe biden forgotten three very important names. Chief robert conti the third from the metropolitan police department, commander Robert Glover from the metropolitan police department, and commander remy kyle from the metropolitan police department. If those of you out in the audience went to know who is responsible for our victory on january 6th, at the u. S. Capitol, those are the three people who are eminently responsible. Joe biden, get your head out of your behind, and award those individuals the president ial medal of freedom. Was present i want to include would be from the u. S. Capitol police. Thank you, i appreciate it. Thank you for what you did. It may have been the craziest part of the plot to overturn our election. Y Pat Cipollone told the committee that is not how we do things in the United States. Y provides an unbeatable clean on 24 hour driedon stains. Skip the rinse with finish to save our water. The january 6th committee digging into the heated and, quote, unhinged Oval Office Meeting leading up to january 6, the gathering included cracken lawyer Sidney Powell, and Rudy Giuliani. Focusing on wild ideas to overturn the election, like invoking martial law and seizing Voting Machines. Now we know then white House Counsel Pat Cipollone reacted. We are discussing with former assistant special prosecutor Nick Ackerman and darnell harvin, former head of security at the Homeland Security department. Thank you for joining us this evening. In this new testimony from the white house with Pat Cipollone, the idea that he said about these ideas, Voting Machines at the meeting. I want you to watch this. Thats not how we do things in the United States. We dont have the authority to do that. That was one of the wild ideas. Hes absolutely right. There is no basis to do it. If you look at the actual order, that Sidney Powell showed up with, with general flynn, it basically goes on to say that there was probable cause of election fraud, which there was not. It goes on to allow Sidney Powell to bring civil actions and criminal actions against anybody involved in this, which would have been complete craziness. The idea that she could go out and prosecute people willynilly for no real basis. Across the country. This is nuts. Article really struck me about this was, white House Counsel people and staff, to get rid of these clowns and get them out of the oval office. But then, it had been hours, somehow he spoke to somebody, somehow he came up with this plan, sending out the street inviting all the crazies to washington for january 6. Speaking of tweets, when trump realized that he wasnt going to get what he wanted, he went on twitter just hours later, and part of that infamous treat saying january 6 will be wild. What did they take from that tweet . He took a cue from that street. We have been monitoring that event for a few weeks before. It is what we call a nothing burger. Very little interest in that particular date. The next day, twitter and open Source Intelligence completely blew up. A lot of people would be showing up, not just regular Trump Supporters but really violent individuals. Even after that, your concern is that was about the capitol protecting you, what was that . Absolutely. They were saying, whos got the guns, where do we hide the guns, how do we penetrate the capitol. These were not regular First Amendment protected activities. This has nothing to do with the First Amendment. They were coming to take over the capitol. And we expressed that. That is not in my jurisdiction, and i have no idea that it wouldnt be protected. Sir, that is what i am curious about. We are clearly putting this out on open source media. Why werent things protected the way they should have been . Most of the testimony the committee showed today, listen and. Some very violent individuals were organizing to come to dc, and not only were these nonaligned groups, were aligning, you know, when you have armed militia collaborating with whites of premises groups, collaborating with Conspiracy Theory groups online, with toward a common goal, you start seeing what we call a blended ideology which is a very bad sign. Again, that was your testimony, right . It is pretty clear that those very bad actors were converging with open source information, converging on the capitol. Has the committee been able to directly connect those plotters to the former president . I dont know if they have been able to. I think that is the direction they are leading, i think they are making very good cases after the seventh hearing, that there was a lot of nexus, there, between these individuals waiting for the call. I mean literally waiting for the call, the next day, they started talking about what they would do. I want to tell you why they did this. We are not talking about the dark red and encrypted chat rooms. They were doing this on twitter. Why would they do this on twitter . They were invited to do so. They thought it was a legal action, so that is what you see, a lot of individuals like the president testifying today, they thought they were getting a legal direction to come to the capitol and prepare something that shouldnt have been happening. This was all part of a concerted plan. I would like to know who donald trump called after all the crazies left on december 18th and before he did that tweet. Weve got several suspects, one is roger stone, who was involved with the proud boys, he was involved with the oathkeepers, steve bannon was at the war room at the hotel, he heard the testimony of cassidy hutchinson, who said that her boss called roger stone. We dont know what was said. We know that he also called to a meeting at the war room. We know that steve bannon was involved in this, after he spoke to donald trump, we learned today that immediately after that, he went on his podcast talking about what would happen the next day at january 6, at the capitol. The whole point of this was not so much that they were not letting people know because it was a dereliction of duty, this was very purposeful. The whole point was to create violence and mayhem to stop the count of the electoral vote. So that joe biden could not be certified as the u. S. President. It was to stop the peaceful transfer of power, and so, anything that trump did, the fact that he sat around and didnt do anything during the day on january 6 was very purposeful. Also, the bombshell that liz cheney talked about, at the end of the hearing, right . She said that donald trump attempted to contact a witness, and that they turned that over, they informed the doj, will they follow up on that . Its very hard because nothing actually happened because the person never reached the witness. But, there is a overall problem here. The fact that they are paying lawyers fees for all these various people, what it means is that these lawyers all entered into a joint defense agreement, something that is very common. You enter into a joint defense agreement, it means that you can then tell each and every lawyer who is a part of that agreement who is testifying from and what they are saying. Now, all of that is normally proper, but if youre using that information in some way, to find out who the people are that might be ratting you out or talking or cooperating, that is when it comes into a problem. I dont think that has been explained as the underlying issue, here. I see this being tied up next week in the final hearing, i think they will tie in people t

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