Transcripts For CNNW Cuomo Prime Time 20210108 : comparemela

Transcripts For CNNW Cuomo Prime Time 20210108

Without the Commission Fees so you can start investing today, wherever you are even hanging with your dog. So, what are you waiting for . Download now and get your first stock on us. Robinhood. Now, the conservative Editorial Board of the wall street journal to those now making the case for the impeachment of donald trump. Tonight they published this editorial. In it they lay out the case for trumps ouster. Writing about yesterdays events, they say, quote, this was an assault on the constitutional process of transferring power after an election. It was also an assault on the legislature from an executive sworn to uphold the laws of the United States. This goes beyond merely refusing to concede defeat. In our view it crosses a constitutional line mr. Trump hasnt previously crossed. It is impeachable. Later they wrote, if mr. Trump wants to avoid a second impeachment, his best path would be to take personal responsibility and then resign that. From the conservative wall street journal. That the editorial that has just come out today, suggesting the president should resign lest he be impeached, saying that there is a case for impeachment. That is something obviously a lot of democrats are looking at. There are reports that nancy pelosi had been trying to reach Vice President pence, that he was not returning her call, knowing that it would be about the 25th amendment. So we continue to follow it tomorrow to see whether or not impeachment is something that the democrats are going to be pursuing. Obviously that would be something that would have to be done extraordinarily quickly. Theres 13 days in the administration left. Unclear exactly how the president is going to behave over these next 13 days. The video that was released a short time ago obviously a very different tone from this president than we have heard. Of course it was written by somebody else. It was spoken from a teleprompter and is certainly not reflective of what the president has been saying up until now. Well continue to see what tone he takes and what other words he speaks tomorrow. The news continues now. I want to hand it over to chris for cuomo prime time. Chris. Thanks for buying me some time. I appreciate it, anderson. I am chris cuomo. Welcome to prime time. Everything is kind of happening in the moment, right . Even me and my tie. Why . Because everythings changing every second, and we have to focus on where we are and where we need to be. Heres where things stand. That trump mob that attacked the citadel of our democracy, our capitol, theyre being rounded up and charged. Its happening. Were learning more about who they are. Theyre not getting a pass, at least not yet. As for who started it, the feds say theyre looking into trump himself. Now, as a matter of fact, this is obvious. Trump whipped up these special people that he loves with lie after lie about the election being stolen and that they must resist. They must show strength and that he would lead them to the capitol to stop them. He incited riot. You see this. It was started with bad intentions, and then a group of them not all of them but enough went out and did exactly what trump laid out for them to do. And afterwards, in a moment where he had a chance to condemn everything he says he opposes, everything they say they oppose, he told them he loved them, and he gave them a pass. The people who desecrated our sacred space. Nobody has ever done anything like this. Have bad things come out of good intentions before, legitimate protests . Yes, and thats when they become crimes and riots. But anybody trying to excuse this as just more of the same is as bad as the people in that capitol. And many people fall into that category. Trump didnt do this alone. He put the message out there, but he didnt start this fire. He blew on it, and too many retrumplicans, who are still in office, who will remain, have to answer for that. They listened. They looked on, and they did nothing. What you ignore, you empower. And then theres the echo chamber. People who pose as media, but theyre not. Theyre operatives. Theyre retrumplicans. Theyre toxic partisans. Theyre fringe actors magnified on social media and, in fact, inflated by lazy mainstream media, made relevant. They wanted this. Now theyre trying to excuse it. Theyre trying to attack the people who do the job legitimately as if were the problem after they attacked the capitol. So now, now is a critical point. Why . Because now trump has people threatening to resign. Congress thinking about impeachment. So what happens . Not for you. Not for the common good. But to obviously save his own skin, he goes bad on the people he says he loved, right . And now says the obvious thing. Punishment for lawlessness, the need to unite, respect the new administration. Never mentions biden by name. Never congratulates him. Never wishes him well. And puts it all together in a new video. Im not showing it to you. You can see it online. Hes reading what someone else wrote for him. And by the way, people will say, oh, you see, he said the right thing. Damned if he does, damned if he doesnt. No. No. Hes damned for what he did. And the statement he just put out would have been fine a month ago, after the litigation was over in december. You can have due process. But now youre going to get your due because what you have done to us has taken us to a low point. And frankly i dont know how we get out of it. Its easy to break. Its hard to fix. Democracys fragile. We slept on that reality. Were all too complacent. Too many people stood by and said, hes just noise. Tell that to the people who are hiding for their lives in that capitol, republican and democrat by the way. Belly down. Scared out of their wits. One of the lowest moments of my lifetime. And yet on the same day, we saw our potential. Those people got up right and left and decided to do something really reasonable. Hold it there. And went back into that building and did their job. I dont even know that that was safe. But maybe it was worth the risk because if it had been stalled the way they wanted it to, if they had won, if they had gotten what they wanted, what trump wanted, what trump asked for remember this. He wasnt the one in the capitoldy stroiicapitol destroying it, but that was what he wanted done. He asked for it. What else do you need . How do you stand by someone like that . And if you are one of the people who went in there and think you did it for him, he just threw you under the bus too, just like mike pence. Why . Because its about him, and he has forsaken the rest of us. But those people in the ugliest moment, they showed america at our best. Now, look, it didnt hold. They went back in there and you had retrumplicans literally after an insurrection, people coming for their ass, continue to lie about a fraud just for gain. Its not perfect. Nothing is. But here is the real deal. He was pushing people for the moment that was made yesterday for weeks. And it was obvious, and it was obviously ignored by retrumplicans. But it was clear to the man who will take over, the president elect. Listen. I wish we could say we couldnt see it coming, but that isnt true. We could see it coming. The past four years, weve had a president who has made his contempt for our democracy, our constitution, the rule of law clear in everything he has done. He unleashed an allout assault on our institutions of our democracy from the outset. And yesterday was but the culmination of that unrelenting attack. The president elect is right, and hopefully theres a lesson in this even for him to understand the power of words maybe better than he did before and also for him to understand how big the task is that he has in front of him. This is going to be hard. Saying unite doesnt make people unite. This is going to be tricky because so many people have been lied to and convinced to invest in an anger thats not going to be easy to quell. So lets try to just not focus on just trump, trump, trump and whats going to happen to trump. I dont think anythings going to happen to trump, all right . Well discuss it tonight. But i think its about what remains. Now you see people around him. Some are resigning, saying its because of this. Cnn just learned that betsy devos, the education secretary, is resigning. I dont know about you, but my feeling is so what . Its not just too little, too late. But you dont get to look good after youve stood by for so much bad, especially devos. You went in there and tried to make educating kids harder, not easier. Why . Youre going to have to ask her. I can tell you whats obvious from the outside. Trump has been about us and them and dividing people in his own country along the wrong lines. So shes out. Other ones are going to resign. So what . I actually think its the wrong thing to do. I think you should stay. Why . Because at least youd have the decency to try to give the new administration the best running start it can have. This has been delayed too long as it is. Its going to be hard to come into these agencies. You know, the head leaves, devos leaves, im sure a lot of her staff are going to go too. So whos going to help people figure out how things work in that agency when theyre new . Why dont you have the decency to stay . The statement means nothing. You have no high ground. Why dont you just stay and help the next people . Thats really the best gesture you could do. But you make up your mind on that for yourself. But heres what i will say. Devos can leave. The other ones, they can leave. That doesnt mean they should disappear. This matters beyond trump. He didnt do this alone, and he shouldnt be under fire alone. Our democracy almost collapsed yesterday. Thats not hyperbole. What if they had gone in there with weapons, god forbid . God forbid. We should not leave it up to grace to get ourselves out of situations of our own making. Lawmakers. I dont want to say it, but you have to say it. We could have lost people. A female rioter is dead, a veteran. Three others. The threat remains. The bad feelings, the bad practices dont go away because trump will soon be gone. These crazy Fringe Groups remain rabid, and so do the retrumplicans who torched old glory and pledged allegiance to the maga flag. Remember, even after the insurrection, yes, they went back into the building, but they lied again. And you must know who they are, and you must not let them try to pretend to be anything else, ever. Ted cruz, josh hawley, astute legal minds trying to think that you are stupid enough to believe that something happened that they cant show any proof of. Thats where we need to be focused. Not on trump. Hes gone. And now im going to bring in senator amy klobuchar. She was there in minnesota. She was involved in a really powerful moment early in the morning that we got to see, and you may have missed because it was really early in the morning. But we watched it. But, senator, i appreciate what you did last night. I really i dont like what happened once you guys got back in there, but the decision to go back into the capitol when i dont even know that we had any reasonable assurances that it was safe i mean we were finding out about explosive devices when you guys had already decided to go back in. Why did it matter so much to you guys to go back in last night after what had happened . Because we could not let the domestic terrorists win. We could not let an angry, violent mob run our government, walk in there and think they could just stop everything in its tracks. And i know especially senator schumer felt so strongly about this. Thats the incoming majority leader of the United States senate as really did all the leaders. And it was a unified belief that we must go back in there. So we pushed really pushed the envelope so we could get back in there, so the American Public could see despite the horrific day wed been through, that we were in there doing our jobs. And its really two things. Its one that you go back in there and take your rightful place. But secondly, we had to finish the job of declaring to the country that, in fact, joe biden and Kamala Harris won that election. And there were people, as you point out, i was the one that took on ted cruz right before the capitol security had been breached. And he was actually boasting about the fact in his argument that 30 , 40 of the public actually didnt trust the election. And i took it directly on and said, why do you think they dont trust the election . It was the exact chris cuomo argument, the argument youve been making for months, that you havent been putting your head down and ignoring this and saying nothing can happen. We saw what happened, and its because of the rhetoric, and they know better. And those were my words right before this started, including its a republic if we can keep it, quoting some words that were at one point attributed to benjamin franklin. And it turned out to be a very good indicator of what was going to happen later in the night. Yeah. Monarchy or a republic. A republic if you can keep it. Dr. Franklin said. So you were at opposite ends of the spectrum last night. At the end, do we have the moment with the senator and the Vice President . Okay. So, senator, obviously you know it because you lived it. But at the end of the proceedings, i want people to see what transpired between you and the Vice President , mike pence. [ applause ] theres senator klobuchar. Theres mike pence. Theyre talking right now. And now klobuchar tries to punch him in the face and misses and winds up hitting in the fist. No. You fistbumped Vice President mike pence. Why, and what did that mean to you . Look, what i was saying, i disagree with so many things hed done, including as you were saying standing with this president. But the point is at this moment, he was willing to read the results and declare joe biden and Kamala Harris were the president and Vice President of the United States starting january 20th. I thought that was significant because as you know, we have a huge party of the country, thanks to donald trump and his enablers, who dont actually believe that this has happened, they dont believe that they won the election. So i thought the fact that pence stood up, as well as my republican colleagues who voted with us, 93 senators rejected these scurrilous claims and baseless objections together and spent the whole day together, including by the way the moment when joe biden gave remarks, and this hasnt been widely reported. And we were all shoved together in a room, and the minute joe biden came on, silence came over the room. The entire senate watched his speech with respect and clapped at the end. That happened, chris. So to me, these were moments that i will never forget, including at 3 30 in the morning when the only senators left were senator blunt and myself as the head of the rules committee and then the Vice President , and we walked over with those remaining ballot boxes after josh hawleys ridiculous objection in pennsylvania had been outvoted, and we walked over to the house and were greeted by speaker pelosi, and we then finished the reading of the roll call, did our job, and declared the winner of the 2020 election. So as horrible as the day was, that moment was the moment you cherish for our democracy. Democracy prevailed. Look, you took an amazing risk, and i think the reward is there because if you had not done it, if had been deemed not safe or whatever, it would have really been an incentive to the wrong kinds of people. One other thing, and then im going to let you go, senator. Again, you have my thanks as a citizen, all of you for going back into that room. I dont know that i would have had the bravery to do it after Something Like that, so i thank you. But, chris, could i just also mention there was staff that had the presence to save the ballot boxes. They would have destroyed the boxes that contained the actual ballots the electors from each state would have been destroyed by those criminals that came in. The staff saved them and the line Police Officers, despite all the investigation were going to have to undertake on the lack of preparation, everything went wrong. There were Police Officers that was the only reason we were able to go back there is because of people putting their lives at risk and some of them severely injured as you know. Fair point. And everything that happened yesterday, you cant put everybody in the same bucket in any regard. But just one more thing. Trump is gone. He leaves. And now it looks like he was scared enough into submission. Good. But its what remains. Hawley and cruz, after the insurrecti insurrection, stuck by an indefensible position that was done out of pure animus and selfinterest, and its dangerous, and they know it. And you have over 130 people just like them in the house. This isnt civil disagreement. This isnt a policy disagreement. These are people who willingly stood up and lied on the record after an insurrection. How do you work with people like that . Theres going to be a reckoning, and i will tell you that there are a whole lot of republicans that cannot stand what these guys did, including conservative republicans. They know that what they did here, they did it for their own she shortterm destiny is what i called it last night. I talked about the fact people arent going to remember who we were 100 years from now. Theyre not going to remember who we were maybe 50 years from now, but theyre going to remember what we did last night. And our job as u. S. Senators is to not put our own shortterm destiny out front. Its to put democracys destiny out front. And basically people answered the call made by many leaders in congress, and they literally rebuked them in front of the country. No matter how many fists josh hawley put up in the air to those insurrectionists, that will not be forgotten now because the nation has seen what happens when you not just enable donald trump, but you decide to use it for your own personal gain. I think theyre going to have to have a major problem. They will have major problems in or own party and theyre also going to have issues in their own states. I will never forget, and i hope the country learns a lesson from it and things are insisted upon to change. But senator klobuchar, you have my thanks for what you and all the others and the staff and the people who kept you safe, thank you for putting us first. Thanks, chris. God bless and be well. So what is this reckoning . What is the accountability . Trump incited a riot. He applauded it afterwards. He told the people who performed in it that he loved them. Does he get charged for insurrection that he inspired . Is it seditious conspiracy . The feds arent ruling it out. Lets walk through the possibilities on the legal side but also a flavor of the political practicality. Former deputy fbi direct

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