What will christmas look like . That will be president elect bidens hands. But remember it is still the Trump Administration. And when it comes to the pandemic, there is not enough being done for any better days to be coming soon. Now, as for creating better times ahead, president elect biden is doing things. He added three more experts to his Covid Task Force this weekend. That will help. Biden is harnessing the power of women more than we have seen. Vice president is obvious and of course a big deal. Senator harris, now Vice President elect harris. Then an all women White House Communications team. The bar for their success is simple. Dont lie. Dont baselessly deny things that we have to call out and you will certainly compare very well to the current toxic team. Women are also nominated for many of the top economic roles including janet yellen. Now pause here. Why . Tanden is an early opportunity for us to remember. Why . Republicans are saying we may block her. We dont like, wait for it, her tweets. Really . The same people who are saying nothing as trump continues to lie about our election, who said nothing about his lies, nothing about his savagery. They sit silently. They are complicit. They ignored it and they empowered it. And even now as trump tries to sabotage the transition with baseless claims and does more to try to divide us than any russian ever dreamed of doing, republicans or republycants, lets hear where you are on that before you judge tweets by tanden or anyone else. Remember what they did and what they failed to do. From the worst to another positive first. Our next defense secretary could be the first woman in that role. Sue gordon, short list for the cia. More women are slated throughout the administration. Why is this good . Well, women are more than 50 of our population. They were nowhere near that in terms of representation of power. Maybe if they get in there we will see perspective that we havent been fitted from. Maybe when theyre there in numbers they will be more open and more empowered for that p perspective to come out. Lets see where it gets us. For saying, oh, man, i dont know thats a lot of women on bidens team, perspective. The late Justice Ruth Bader ginsburg when asked how many women on the Supreme Court would be enough, she said nine. Eyebrows went up. Listen to her rational. We had nine mostly white men for a long time. Nobody was upset by that. Why would nine women when theyre over half the population be weird . Interesting perspective. So bidens picks are part of the big picture on how we make the most of our diversity. Big moves aside, as someone covering the white house for a long time now, i took a lot of comfort in something pretty small, the size of a pinky toe bone. When biden hurt his foot, i appreciated it. Why . Because im a sadist. No. Because we just got the straight truth about it. No lie. No denying. Just he was out playing with his dog. He sprained his foot or broke some foot on his foot. Probably have to wear some boot on his foot for weeks. Why was that a big deal for me . Because there was no b. S. There was no reason for blocking why trump was rushed to a hospital. No fugazi doctors about trump being superhuman. Just the truth. And the truth matters because when you lie about small things, you lie about big things. Thats trump. Thats why a Record Number of you kicked him out. He is going out the way he came in, a liar. And hes going out lying about the election he lost. Hes even attacking gop governors in arizona and georgia for not doing enough to overrule your votes there. Both states went for biden, certified today. I wonder if trumps shameful savaging of our democracy may make the difference in that Georgia Senate runoff. You trump folk there, do you want to stand up for him after hes throwing you off the bus, lied about our election . Do you want to stand up for republicans who said nothing about it, who said they will be no better. Really . Look, we already know the big answer about this election. It worked 153 million of you record came out to remind the people who want to be in power who is really the boss. Bravo. How do we know it worked . Well, no one in charge says otherwise. No court has said otherwise. Even trumps guy who was put in on the federal level to oversee it confirms it. That would be chris cripps. His message in his first interview last night was this. There is no foreign power that is flipping votes. There is no domestic actor flipping votes. I did it right. We did it right. This was a skecure election. Again, he says it. Got foired. Courts say it, they get attacked. Secretaries of state, legislators, they say it, theyre all part of the problem. Only trump and his complicit cronies in Congress Know the truth, and we all know that that is a lie. Again, remember who sat silent when he lied to your face. Remember them. Lets bring in David Gregory for some perspective. David, were waiting on anna navarro. She has some tech problems. Why do i say that . Its good to have a woman when you are talking about the significance of all the women picks that joe biden is making. How big a deal . Is this only for the politically correct, or the political class, only the media, or could the implications be profound . I think it is profound. I think its really significant. I mean, some of bidens top jobs are still filled by white men at secretary of state, chief of staff. We dont know whats going to happen at secretary of defense. But i think there are key players who are significant advisers like janet yellen, his nominee at treasure like others who would be top economic advisers who are woman who will bring in a different perspective. It is a way of saying, look, these are powerful positions. These are going to be people who are influential on my thinking, and that sends an important signal. So there is the politics of it, of course, but i think its biden recognizing that in a lot of ways, chris, he understands hes a transitional figure, that he represented a way to stop trump but to bridge what the Democratic Party is becoming and will yet become. And that is going to be dominated by women, people of color, younger people and i think the party is sorting itself out. Are you surprised or do you expect to see biden pick a republican . I think it would be his inclination, but i was thinking, you know, im reading president oba obamas memoire and his reaching out to gates and ultimately to hagel. The fact that he reached out to jeff flake, the former republican senator was onboard and he ended up getting too much flak to go through with it. So i think the inclination was there. Then i think biden will have the inclination. But i think he will be careful here because i think he really does have to watch his left flank. Look, some of the references you were making, people attacking tweets and so forth, were going to get back to good oldfashioned ideological battle. His nominees and his policies on the economy and otherwise are going to be attacked by the right on good oldfashioned ideological grounds. Well, they better be ideological because if theyre character based or if theyre behavior based or if theyre legitimacy based or pedigree based, theyre going to have a big problem. Because im telling you, this has been a different period. Trump was not just a republican. In fact, i dont think he was a republican. And i think that whole party now is just him. I dont even know what ideology they have left, you know . What . No taxes. Or taxing less after the tax cut they gave him that wasnt paid for. I think they have to be careful. They have regulation. They have the courts, chris. Oh, yeah. He did a good job of getting right with social conservatives and the economic base of the party when he was otherwise really populus and was running a Campaign Based on fear and great. Im with you. He was a demagogue. He may have said he wants to be a populist, but he did nothing to empower those people. He just harnessed their anonymous and left us in a worse place. Lets talk about it specifically. From biden picking women and the implication there, cant even talk about trump without losing my voice, here is what his lawyer said about the federal official who came out and said the election was safe and got fired for it. Here is what his lawyer unfortunately an italian guy said about chris krebs. Anybody who thinks that this election went well like that idiot krebs. Oh, the guy that was on 60 minutes last night. That guy is a class a moron. He should be drawn and quartered. Taken out at dawn and shot. Hyperbole . Yes. But what is the instinct . The instinct is be angry, want to hurt them. They will play theyre victims, right . But i think its important that as they exit you see them for what they are and notice no republican said anything about it, david. Yeah. Well, because theyre afraid to because they want distance from it. But you said something important, which is im thinking, maybe wishfully, that well get back to, you know, two parties fighting one another in a contest of ideas. Youre reminding me that, no, you have to realize there is bad actors here and people trying to delegitimize. This goes on for both sides. But the reality here is that biden comes into office with a high number, a High Percentage of people republicans, trump supporters, who have been head to believe that he cheated. Without evidence, the courts are doing their job. I think trump is increasingly in the rearview mirror, but there is such a thing as trumpism that says, oh, these guys cheated and theyre trying to screw you in the end. The same, you know, politics and grievance that he didnt come through on but that he can still whip up. Thats what you have to watch out for because if there is a fight over taxes and deregulation and the role of labor unions, fine. We can have that debate if were going to have that debate. I dont know if we are. It goes to your question about are republicans going to be Strong Enough to have those fights or will they have to check everything based on trumpism and whatever role that it plays going forward. I think that there is a good chance that trump is going to be remembered, though a president , as basically an alex jones who hasnt yet come forward to tell you it is an act yet. Hes been telling people things that he doesnt really believe for a long time. And, look, were seeing it now. Hes attacking republican governors. Hes attacking anybody who wont help him cheat. Thats his legacy. That is, as you say, in the rearview mirror. The problem is he left us with a disaster with this pandemic. Its going to be worse than we have ever seen over the next few months. And thats going to fall on bidens watch but between now and then, david, my biggest concern about trump ever is now. What will he do between now and january . What will he fail to do that may leave us very, very deep in doodoo. Last word to you. It is a real concern. I mean, the legacy of trump beyond what especially what hes doing now, perhaps he will be more consequential in certain areas. Trade being one. It will depend on how hes ultimately seen in the areas that people think are legitimate that they separate from all these other things that he has done. But the impact on things like the pandemic is real. And biden is going to come into office with a legacy of now people saying, okay, what are you going to do . Where are the results . And you are going to have to do it under the cloud of suspicion of your legitimacy. Because, remember, a lot of people who even faulted trump, who may have been supporters of trump on the pandemic may have said, look, this was a tough thing to manage and were tired of all these restrictions that will be tough for biden to deliver and own those results. As any new person coming in just like obama did in the financial collapse will have to face. Listen, it happens on your watch and you win, its good. If it happens on your watch and you lose, its bad. A Record Number of people came out to reject him. The only thing i see a little differently is, yeah, you know, biden is going to have problems. Hes going to have to walk on his own. No pun intended because of his foot. But the tactics and what was allowed and what was said to be okay, you dont get to just come back and Start Talking about character and integrity and constitutionality and all that. Not after that. So it will be interesting to see what the state of play is. Long way to go. I got to jump. I do think there is a desire for people to kind of to exhale. Right. And to get back to a place of leadership that feels a bit more normal. We will have a lot of fights and questions over legitimacy, no doubt. But part of this result is a desire for people to feel less exercised, less manic in our politics. Right. Biden has got to figure out his left flank. As you said, youre right. The republicans or whatever you want to call them, they got way bigger issues. Who are they . What are they about . You have all been quiet. You have all been scared. Thank you very much. We will have anna coming on later in the show when we figure out the tech side to talk about what the impact will be on the administration and our history. We will walk you through where things stand on the pandemic. The wos days are ahead. Accept it. Abo accept it. What do we have coming our way . What does the vaccine mean . What does it not mean . The chief doctor is here next. 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I am not about hyperbole or exaggeration when it comes to covid. Okay . 93,000 people were hospitalized. I talk to people in the system all over the country. They are more frightened than at any point except for the beginning when they didnt know what the hell they were dealing with. Now they know and they say weve never had more to deal with. Thats our fault. It is only our fault. Were at a point where rhode island is turning to field hospitals. California considering a new stayathome order. Why . The icus are surpassing capacity maybe before christmas. And we just saw what happened with thanksgiving. We have every indication there will be a case pop from what we decided to do over the last week. Were not supposed to be letting our guard down. We did exactly that. I think there may be a tendency to be more nonchalant because we all have the vapors from the vaccine. Moderna, pfizer, theyre getting closer and closer, better and better. You will have competent leadership in there after the inauguration. So why dont we just live as we want . That is a horrible analysis. Dont listen to me. Lets bring in chief dr. Sanjay gupta along with dr. Elmer huerta, medical contributor to cnn in spanish and a participant in the Moderna Vaccine trial. Sanjay, i hope thanksgiving was good. I hope it was good for both of you. The idea of people not doing what i need to do as the holidays come and they love you, sanjay, but theyre sick of the message. They miss their loved ones. Its been too much for too long. I got to live the holidays. The vaccine is coming. Ill be fine. What is your concern . Well, you know, i mean, i my concern is it will get a lot worse before it ultimately gets better. With this hope of the vaccine on the horizon, we are finding sort of one of two camps. People are either saying exactly what you are eluding to, chris, hey, were through this. The light is at the end of the tunnel, we can sort of, you know, let our guard down. And another group is saying, hey, it is just not that much longer. Lets redouble our efforts and try to save as many people as we can before the vaccine comes here. It is coming, but it will still take several months for the majority of people to have access to this vaccine. So the message is the same, chris. You know, the idea that still in the United States the best that we could do is be the worst in the world is not something that i think anybody predicted or aspired to. We can still do things to save lives over the next several months. Anybody can be part of that movement to save lives. Now, the good news with the vaccine on top of the scientific good news, dr. Huerta, is the vaccine hasnt been politicized. So trump was telling people vaccine good. So we dont have a block in our political culture of people wanting to take it. Yet, were a little bit better than 50 of people say ill take the vaccine. Now, as i said, dr. Huerta was in a trial for the vaccine and he went through it. I want to hear your experience. But start by telling people who say im not taking it. I dont trust it. What do you say to them . And what is your experience. Thanks for the opportuni