Before we hand it over to chris, take a look, the Empire State Building shining red and white for the First Responders on the front lines of this crisis who are risking their lives to help keep us alive. Anderson, as always, the per perfect message. Maybe more than ever, those First Responders are depending on us. Thank you for well wishing, brother. Ill check in with you tomorrow. Tonights show will be a little different. Priority remain, reality set in all the way to the president. Brace yourselves, not for a hoax but for the next few weeks of scary and painful realities. The government is saying we need to keep doing what were doing. The data shows our mitigation efforts are working. The reality, we are our best and perhaps only defense. If you need a death toll, you will get it every day, and it will frighten you. 4,000 already. Maybe 100,000. 250,000. Trumped up today by this president potentially saying it could have been millions. My suggestion, dont get caught in the numbers. Why . Theyre just scary and theyre out of context. We do not have the testing data to make real sense of our reality beyond what we know is the face of it for an overwhelming number who get sick. And that face is mine. I tested positive. Scary, yes, as you might imagine. But better me than you. My concern is what i may have put on my family just like you would. That is hurting me way more than anything the virus can do. So, lets focus. Lets use this example of me having it as proof that you can get it too. God forbid wechlt ha. We have to do everything we can to avoid being sick. We have to do it for ourselves, our families, and those on the front lines saving lives of me and people like you together as ever as one. That is our remedy. What do you say . Lets get after it. Now, look. I feel fine. Im able to do the show. You do not want this. And i am not able to be there for my family right now in the way that i want to be. And i still have to see if i got any of them sick. And you can understand how sickening that is to me as a husband and a father. And yet im hesitant to talk about me because who cares . This is so small compared to what so many are facing. And were going to all go through this together. Youre going to have stories like mine popping up all over you and your life. You probably do already. Why . Because testing is just starting to catch up and pulling back the curtain on what weve known to be true for so long. Its not if. Its not when. We are in it. This is a fight. Its going to get worse. Were going to suffer. And you have to accept that not with fear but with almost a fanatical sense of passion to fight it because thats the only way youve ever made it through anything hard in your life. And this will be no different. Let me be truth. We have real vulnerability. You are not too strong. Do not act that way. But show that vulnerability by what you do for yourself and for others. And not just healthwise but economically the toll this is taking. How many people do you know who are worried about losing a job or who have lost their job and are not sure about how to get food on the table. Everyone gets it now. Trump is even questioning the hard reality. Hes worried and he should be. So, lets move past this idea of fear to fact. What do they need us to do . What is working . What do we have questions about . What remains . For that theres no one better than dr. Sanjay gupta. Its good to see you, bro. Hey, chris. Man, i feel for you. I know you well. I know youre saying you feel okay, but you look a little under the weather and im sorry, brother. I know you well, and im sorry that youre feeling that way. Well, i probably dont look great because i have coronavirus. I think you know, once we clear that up, thats what it is. And look, im a fighter. Most of us are going to be fine. Im okay with that. Theres so many who are so much more vulnerable and theres so many people as you know sacrificing themselves every day to fight for the weakest among us. So, what they did today extending it, they seem to be pretty soft about it. You and i both believe weve got to be looking at april or may in order for this to work in a way where we can combat it with our existing capacity. What are they saying now . How much does it square with reality to you . Well, look, i mean these models that everyones talking about where theyre saying maybe 100,000 people would die and thats sadly, you know, a bestcase scenario, chris. One of the things youve got to keep in mind when they look at those models theyre talking about maintaining these measures until the end of may, right . So, right now theyre saying end of april. But even in the best case scenario, you would extend it at least until the end of may. Every state in the country would be doing that. Not all the states in the country are doing this right now. If some states dont, that affects all of us, chris. As weve said for a couple of months now, how you belaif affects me, how i behave affects you. That is still true. There are still people not abiding by this. They dont see the severity of it. Maybe after hearing youve tested positive, maybe people will behave differently, i dont know. But those models are just that and theyre contingent on the fact that from here on out every state in the country is really serious about these social mitigating measures. Not easy. Its tough. Its really tough. What do you say to the people who are in a lowdensity area and they want to work and they can work and they dont see the case numbers. Theyre not in new york. Theyre not in phanew jersey. Theyre not the coast. They dont have so many risk factors. How do you convince those people that they need to do what isnt necessary now because it might be necessary later. That is not a uniquely american instinct. Its not. I get no joy in saying these things but weve been looking at these things for several months now. Ive spent a lot of time looking at these models. Heres what i would say. A week and a half ago, michigan was saying that. They had 15 cases. They said maybe we dodged this thing. Now theyre well over 1,500. Louisiana sort of the same thing. Maybe this is going to bypass us altogether. Now theyre considered a hot spot in new orleans. Sadly this is a virus that is circulating around the country. Virus doesnt care where you live. It does care to the extent that if youre in a densely populated area like new york maybe youre going to see these numbers earlier. But i think if you listen closely to what Public Health officials have been telling us, i think even as you listen to these press conferences and everything, i think they dont want to jar the country with some of whats happening now. Im not suggesting we need to jar the country. But the reality is this. I think every state in the country is in some way following the same curve as youve seen in new york. New yorks just earlier on the curve for the reasons we just mentioned. Its going to happen. We can do something about it. There is an end. If you act now youre probably going to reduce the impact from a Public Health standpoint and an economic standpoint later. I know its hard. Its like individual like i tell you to eat right and exercise and then you dont have a heart attack. Was it because i ate right and exercised or i wasnt going to have a heart attack anyways . How do you prove a negative. Thats the challenge for a lot of people. It doesnt make it any more important. Ill tell you whats scary about this that i didnt realize until basically today. Ive never had anything where you cannot control the suck. You know, even when ive had the flu, youve got the familitamif. You took the vaccine. It mutes it. Catch it early with the tamiflu. Goes good. They give you antivirals. It can work. It is scary to have people say two things. One, the real answer is suck it up. Stay home. Stay away from your family. Hydrate. Take time if you need it. Thats all youve got until youre an extremist. Thats scary. Then the second scary thing is then everybody gives you a million things to take, antimalarial, cpac, the hide chloroquine which the president p. Do we know anything even close to definitively where you would feel comfortable telling your approxima friend, chris, go for it. Its worth the risk. Do we have anything like that right now . Chris, im sorry youre going through this, really. You know, i really feel for you. Its not good. Its a serious thing, and youre a tough guy. But i know it really makes people feel miserable. So, im sorry youre going through this. You know, there arent any proven medications right now. And look people will say hey, look, if its not proven but maybe it works in a situation like this, should we do it anyway, let me take one of the examples you gave. Hydrochloroquine and the z pack, one of the ones people have heard about, the president has talked about and a lot of doctors have talked about it. One, we dont have the evidence that it works. Evidence is importance here for a couple of reasons. First of all, the studies they did, there were people who werent counted in the study. They started the study. They werent counted in the final conclusions but some of those people got quite sick despite taking the medication. When you do the math on this small study of 20 people it didnt necessarily show benefit. Youve got to try this out in larger populations. The french doctor who was the author of that study came out today and said look, i want to be clear, i never wanted to recommend that people just start medicating themselves with this. By the way, if you do, you should get a ekg ahead of time. Monitor your potassium. There could be significant side effects. Last thing we want to do to anybody is cause harm. Thats why you do trials. I wish it worked. I wish we could say it worked and we knew it for sure and i would say my pal, chris, can take this and help him retus the severity and duration of this virus. Cant say that for sure. Thats one of the most common ones. Rememb remdesivir was trialed. It was never approved. A lot of enthusiasm about it. People have heard about these antiaids drugs. Those are probably the most promising. Those trials were started right after, a week after the first patient was diagnosed in china. People said weve got it. These are the drugs that are going to work. Two weeks ago, final study came out and said they didnt work. Thats why you do these studies. Theres going to be something. We just dont know what it is yet. We do know that the one thing is the prevention. And that if you stay away from people, your chance of getting it is so much less and then you dont have to deal with the unknown. And its simple as that. And thats the only reason look, i wasnt going to have this and not tell people because im not going to tell people theyve got to be straight about this i dont care how you live your lives regularly, but this is bigger than your personal choices. My basement is great but i cant go hug my kids. I cant be with my family. I dont know whats going to come next. I dont know if the tightness in my chest is a function of the virus or because im so pissed off at myself that im not able to take care of what im able to take care of. The bittersweet thing is people can avoid it. No doubt. We have data that shows what can decrease the likelihood of this continuing to spread which can hopefully avoid some of these worst Case Scenarios in this country. But, chris, can i just ask for a second just because of what you just said. There are some things that, you know, are worth probably getting checked out. You know, for most people, theyre not going to need to go to the hospital. Its going to be a tough period, but they recover from this illness. Theyre going to be okay. But there are a few things thats sometimes concerns. One is if your shortness of breath is getting worse. You mentioned tightness in your chest. We dont have to do that right now, im going to ask you more about that. But tightness in the chest, pressure in the chest, if its getting worse, those are things im worrying about. If youre developing evidence where youre not getting enough oxygen, feel like youre losing consciousness or got blue lips, those are obvious ones. Those are things that should take you to the doctor. Most people arent going to need it, chris. But i want to make sure especially given that you might have you mentioned tightness in your chest, i want to make sure that we leave people with the right impression that there are situations that need to get checked out. Look, this is this is scary. I know you heard what i said at the top of the show. Im not diving into the numbers because i know were playing catch up. People are getting freaked out by the jumps in the numbers and it was always going to happen. The only number im going to argue matter social securiis on. Its what you choose to decide. Everything else is going to scare the heck out of you. Ill talk to you whenever you want. I dont want to take up your time because youre being so helpful to so many people. You are the best of us and i cant tell you we love you, chris. Feel better. I cant tell you how good people have been. People are being so nice and that is a beautiful thing and that shows our capacity to be much more powerful than any virus. Sanjay, ill talk to you soon. Thank you for helping me out, brother. Stay close, you got it. Not too close. I dont want to get you sick. The man overseeing one of americas newest coronavirus hotspots says he is only getting a fraction of what he is asking for. We have to stay on this because this is one of the blurry things and it cant be blurry. You have to shine a light on it. Weve got to be blunt about it. Weve got to be aggressive about it. Illinoiss governor says a big shipment did arrive but it had the wrong masks. Is that true or not . What does it mean for him Going Forward . How does it get fixed . The governor, straight talk, next. Were finally back out in our yard, but so are they. Scotts turf builder triple action. It kills weeds, prevents crabgrass and feeds so grass can thrive, guaranteed. Our backyard is back. This is a scotts yard. Lets deal with a very big point of contention right now, okay . The president says that the states are getting what they need,that the federal plan has really ramped up. But for some governors, its stimply never enough. Meaning what . That the problem is somewhat theirs, not his. He uses that on new york where the governor of course is my brother and he also uses it on the governor joining us now of illinois. Its good to see you, governor. Great to you see you. Were all thinking about you, praying for you, chris. Im one of the lucky ones, governor. Thank you very much. Im going to do the job and hopefully ill just be an example. Anybody can get it. If you think its not going to be you, thats what i used to say also. God bless you, governor. An awful lot of people are going to get it. Yeah. The president says listen, i get that youre nervous. I get you want, you want, you want, but ive given you plenty. Use what im giving you the right way and you dont have to worry about it. Your response is you didnt send me what i asked for. Whats the reality . Well, we asked for 1. 7 million n95 masks and weve got about 400,000 total. We asked for many, many gloves and gowns and so on. Weve gotten about 10 of what we asked for. We needed testing early on. They were promising millions of tests and youve heard them say that over and overagain. The truth is that weve got very few tests from the federal government. And in fact their federal testing is slowed down because they throw it all at lab corp. And quest and theyve got a huge backlog. Those tests are coming back in four to ten days. What were doing in the state of illinois we can do in one day or two days. Thats very important. That time makes a huge difference in Peoples Development of their virus and whether theyre going to end up in the hospital or not. Two points of push back. One is yeah, you only got 10 . Thats all you need right now. You dont need everything you want right now. Well do it in stages. Use what i just gave you. When you run out, ill give you more. Thats the president s rationale for many of the bigger states. Whats the reality for you . Well, thats not been the case. Weve had to go out on to the open market to find masks, both surgical masks, n95 masks, gowns, face shields, et cetera. Were competing against the federal government. Were competing against big states like new york and california. And were competing against other countries because the president has not invoked or used the defense production act to help us with all the needs we have. One company, gm, on ventilators. Thats nice. Thats good. Im glad hes doing it. But we need a comprehensive solution because we need 4,000 more ventilators here in illinois from the federal government where weve asked for those thousands of ventilators, weve now received a grand total of 450. And look, you know, i have a little of personal insight here. I have been dealing with procurement questions going on in new york and its not a question. The governor is telling the truth. I have had guys serving as vendors who have masks. When they come back and tell you the price has changed or they have to give them to illinois or a different state because they came in and have money to spend more quickly. Anybody who denies that is lying to you. That is the truth. How to fix it, that is a question for the federal government to take it up. And im telling you the governors telling you the truth right now. Ive dealt with his guys bidding in real time and its a terrible place for the states to be. Where is your one source of optimism right now . Youre converting spaces. Youre putting mitigation strategies in place. Every time you report a number, its going to pop peoples eyes. Why do you have optimism . Well, my optimism is that the people of illinois, honestly, have come through. We have the testing we have today because of the hospitals here, because of the laboratories here, because our State Government has gone out and bought machines and as many swabs and vtm as we possibly can, not to mention rna extractor. Weve got our own testing that we spun up that takes two days. The federal government delivered almost nothing and takes four to ten days to get results from them. So, my optimism is that were solving it here in illinois. But honestly i dont know if were going to be able to solve it fast enough because i can see this curve moving. I can see us moving to the peak here in relatively short order. And my great concern is that well run out of icu beds or run out of ventilators. What does that look like . And there are people dying because well, unfortunately, as i said, we need 4,000 ventilators. When i spoke to the Vice President and repeated that to him, he said our models show maybe you need 1,400 ventilators. I hope hes right. I said to him give me the 1,400 ventilators then because were only a couple of weeks away from the peak. Truly if we dont have those ventilators delivered in the next week, were not going to be prepared across the state for the kind of on sleuougt that wee going to see. Im looking all over the world for ventilators. Im purchasing every ventilator i can find but were buying them in 100 lots, 200 lots.