And see where were headed. Lets get after it. Joe biden doesnt want to spend the whole evening defending the past. Hes going to try and pivot this all about the future. His aides say, though, he is ready for a fight and prepared to defend his record. What is senator sanders strategy . We know one thing, its got to be on tonight. Theyre two men but theres only one spot. Of course its not just about them but thats what our discussion is. Lets bring in cochair. Chris, great to be back on. All right, so lets talk about tonight. What is going to happen from the senators perspective to draw point of contrast because only one can be number one . Whats the plan . I think hes going to make a contrast on policy. Hes going to ask how did trump win in 2016. He ran say against nafta. He ran against the tpp. He ran against the war in iraq. He ran against the crime bill, and do we really want to make a mistake of electing someone whos going to have those same vulnerabilities, or should we go with someone whos going to be a candidate for change in the stat status quo . What is the plan for the senator for those who say hes too far left . He may get it from biden. If thats the push back, yeah, youve got different ideas. Just that very few people in our party share them. If biden says that, then what . I think the senator speaks to how well he did in michigan, how he resonates in Rural America. I campaigned with the senator. Ive seen him go to Rural America talking about price parody for farmers, talking about rebuilding the downtowns of Rural America. He connects and connects with people in the heartland and i think that will come through. One of the interesting things Bernie Sanders offers, senator sanders, is hes been in there a long time but seen as somewhat of an outsider. He does not work often with others in the senate. When they did that list of the senators who work with the other side, he was the lowest on the whole ranks of people running right now. Is that a good thing . Well, in my experience ive been in congress a few years. I have seen him work with the other side. Ive seen him work very closely with senator rand paul or mike lee on issues of getting us out of unconstitutional wars. Ive seen him collaborate with other senators on issues like he did with senator john mccain before my time on issues of veterans benefits. So ive seen him build those coalitions to be effective. Right, but you would still get hit with the same stick, which is, yeah, you just do it less than anybody else, and your idea of giving birth to the aocs of the party when would do nothing to help the kids, 90 of what you want according to your own party members, senator leahy, wasnt enough. I voted for the original house bill to give the funding for the kids on the border. But heres whats important to realize, chris, because i voted against the Senate Version. The Senate Version didnt have any standards. Now, the house appropriated 40 mill wherein more than the president had asked for these supplies in 2019. Its not a matter of money that these kids are going without diapers and theyre going without toothpaste. Its a matter of the administrations indifference. So we voted many of us in the house voted for the funding but we wanted human rights safeguards in the funding. The dhs now were segueing a little bit and i think its a good thing. I believe you guys should be trying to own this issue, and instead it looks like youve been on the side lines of it. Listen, weve been begging you for this. Hhs has standards, all of the parties have said they would work with you guys, but it was never enough. And so instead of compromising you had these kids waiting for the extra funding for months. Thats just not true. The president s own budget in 2019 was as i mentioned 40 million less than congress appropriated. The president didnt come to congress with that request. Do you know how much the president asked for more supplies this time . 10 mill wherein. We gave him 82 million. So its not just a matter of money. Do i believe we have to give him the money, absolutely thatch thats why i voted for the house bill. But its a matter of voting for basic Health Standards. The senate bill took that out. Why wouldnt we bant basic Health Standards as a norm for how were treating it these kids . But you also have a little provision language in there. You had you couldnt ask people who came as sponsors for the kids about their citizenship status and i didnt understand that one. Its already suspend said as a rule, so it seemed like you were just putting something in there that was setup as a poison pill. My understanding and even the senate had some version of it, is that you werent being able to transfer something from health and human services. If someone wanted to adopt or take a kid in for foster care, you werent able to take that information and send it to the department of Homeland Security because you wanted people to come forward to take custody of these kids. And i thought thats a reasonable provision. It is. I just dont think theyre doing that right now. I accept your argument completely about the president and what he asked for. Theres only one problem with it. Hes not in the business of caring for these kids. Hes in the business of harshness for those who come. Im not saying he wants people to die. I dont judge peoples humanity that way. But hes certainly not in the business of showing you the faces of the true purpose. However, what i was asking you about was the dhs acting secretary. When he was coming and say i need the money. I cant keep these kids the right way. I cant even follow the laws you want me to follow. Do you regret it . I think we acted as fast as we possibly could. This has been our highest priority to get this funding and we have acted expeditiously to get it done before the july fourth recess, and the appropriations has not run out. Now, had we adjourned and left for the break the appropriations would have run out and the dhs would have run out of money. But they havent run out of money. The problem is we gave them the money but there are not enough safe guards. There are no strings but you can stay on it, though. See, i dont think you are relying on the president s judgment. Youre relying on the secretarys judgment. I get the whole idea of the chain of authority but you know thats not how this government works, not right now. So youve got the dhs secretary in there. Keep an eye on them. If you hear reports, if you find out there are problems, then bust down on them but at least now you know youve given them a chance to take care of these kids. Isnt that a worthy accommodation . Its worthy we got them the money. It would have been better had we said they had to comply with some minimal standards or they werent allowed to transfer funding from looking after kids to enforcement and that we had put some actual restricts in there, or they had more notification requirements of kids unfortunately dying in those facilities, that they had to notify within 24 hours. The requirements we had within the house bill were common sense, and what we said is yes i can give you the money but youve got to hit basic american values. Values that whether youre republican, democrat or independent, you believe if you believe in the worth of human life then you would be for it. Its regrettable we dont have that. Now, well continue to fight for them but its regrettable the bill doesnt have it. And you can enforce them as standards anyway. Because if they dont do each and all of those things theyd be violating existing guidelines anyway. Monroe, i appreciate you talking through this with me because thats what the election is all about. I appreciate you doing it. Well, chris, i wish we had someone like running, who actually talked about the inspiration of immigrants as opposed to this president. I dont know how he would have handled all this stuff. In some ways as much as we miss pop im somehow happy hes not here for this particular phase. Last nights debate ratings were humongous. They exceeded expectations. Now, the question is what does it mean, all right, because that wasnt really the big night. No disrespect to who was on the stage last night. Lets bring in the wizard of oz, odds. The numbers that are indicative of the passion we believe we perceived last night. Hes making wizardly motions in a wizardly way. Next. Mom maria Maria Ramirez. 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Cory bookers folks saying the same thing, big night online for donations. Yet isnt that the biggest thing they use to distinguish themselves at this point. What does it mean Going Forward . Lets bring in the wizard of odds harry henton is here. There is lets call it a paradox in politic. We want to take the money out, money is no good, i want small contributors and yet money is what keeps you in the race and money is what makes you go home. Coming in straight early on and getting a bump in fund raising is historically a good indicator for a while. Lets go back to the last cycle on the republican side and carly who sort of came into the race as sort of unknown, she had a very strong debate purchase, she got up to the actual stage and took on donald trump, and she doing so look at this, in her Second Quarter she raised 1. 1. 4 million, and then in the Third Quarter when those debates were current she raised 6. 8 million. Thats an arrow going up. You want to make a blue arrow, a red arrow, but the competition of course is how did that translate into the polls. This i can actually circle where maybe this time i can get an arrow. Look, thats kind of an arrow. After that second 2016 gop debate she jumped all the way up to 15 . There you go. Isnt that nice . Thats an arrow. Thats the same color. They provided me a Good Government education. Donald trump, on the other hand, look at this he went from 32 down to 24 , and that is sort of what a debate can do, and money can be a leading indicator of that. Carly, it there were reports she raised a lot of money after those debates, she saw a jump in the polls. Donald trump after that saw a drop in the polls. How many minutes, lets say 13 minutes into the debate a bit of opening. Lights and music. Thats right. Theyre talking more about trump already than they did in the entirety of the debate last night. What does that tell us . I think it tez you a number of thing. And that is last night when we were sort of looking at the field we saw a field running very far to the left. And if we look back and take a look at the average, and what i essentially did is all the people who were running, member of congress i looked at their record. With 0 being the most liberal and 100 being the most moderate. Theyre closer to the liberal side. This was a field running very much to the left. We saw that most clearly on the Elizabeth Warren answer and look at this. This is something thats amazing me. Again, 0 being the most liberal, 100 being the most moderate. Warren is 27, sanders 16. That is far, far more liberal than clinton being a 6 3 or carrie a 66. Joe biden, a 70. Much closer to that sort of center of the electorate going after trump, trying to stave off that liberal base party. What does the voter split tell us . This i think is rather key. We have all these candidates running to the left, but this is something you and i have caught on so many times, just 19 of the party hold themselves very liberal versus this 47 that calls itself moderate or conservative, and thats the group joe biden is going after. It was somewhat odd to me, wait a minute, all these candidates are trying to get this, but theyre leading this conservative plot. Moderate conservative in terms of policy views versus your appetite to beat trump. Are you moderate to conservative on that . Thats what their bet is, that you are going to come for my policies because i will convince you thats what beats this president. Well see how biden deals with that tonight. Well do more of it in realtime. Appreciate it. All right, so were seeing a different debate tonight than we saw last night already, and i think that there are reasons for that. 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Elena plott, Christine Quin, and se cupp, thank you for joining tonight, my friend. Lets talk about this. Bernie sanders said the following in the opening. Not as a retort, not spontaneous. We beat the president by exposing him. He called him a phony, a pathological liar and a racist. Think about the last time that was said in a debate by a major candidate. Yes, taxes will go up. But your Health Care Costs will go down. By the way, thats not his tricky argument. Its a trickier argument to make than it is to say in an opening. And the other thing i have there is biden did not say anything like that in his opening. Eric swalwell the congressman first taking any shot at biden. Any shot at biden wasnt going to come from bernie. Swalwell said 32 years ago your policies were great. Time to pass the torch. Biden said Im Still Holding the torch. Not the best comeback ive ever heard. The idea is Bernie Sanders saying racist, phony were allowed to play the sound. I didnt want to incur any undo cost of litigation tonight. Heres what he said. The American People understand that trump is a phony, that trump is a pathological liar and a racist and that he lied to the American People during his campaign. He said he was going to stand up for working families. Well, president trump, youre not standing up for working families when you try to throw 32