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The eye. It wasnt a tear. That last segment was amazing. It is thats the face of people who are hurting. Just Everyday Americans who look like mr. Wilson, me, you, everyone. Thats what is important right now, and their whole there are a group of people in this country who cant seem to figure that out. Everyday average americans are hurting, people who hadnt been in distress before. Thats your rightfully so you Pay Attention to it. It brought a tear to my eye, it really did. I just dont know, d. Lemon. What do you want to say . Go ahead, tell me. I really dont know anymore. I mean i you know, i was you know, i come from a family where, you know, my father clawed his way into schools and into a profession where he didnt belong and he had all of these dreams and all he could focus on was helping other people who didnt get to the same place that he could from a similar condition. Now thats why he went into public service, and now you literally have a party and people will say, oh, this isnt partisan. The hell it is not partisan. You have people indulging trump in this farce of a Fraud Campaign with him making a fool out of himself and people are starving in this country. They are doing nothing but playing politics at best. Yeah. I just if this doesnt do it, what does what do we care about anymore . What matters . What matters . Politics, not even based in what theyre doing, not even based in fact or reality. It is not based in reality. They know what theyre doing. They know exactly what theyre doing. There are a lot of people though who are getting played and who may not realize what theyre doing. Thats what my open is going to be about, but it is so frustrating, chris, when you think about when you just saw with the man there. Served his country, proud man, right . There are lots of people similar to him who sadly are being manipulated by the people who are in power now. It is up to us to call it out, and sadly it is up to us, i guess, to try to get people to Work Together to figure out some solution to this because there are folks in washington who just dont want to do it. They want the power, they want to they willfully mislead people. They know nothing is going to change with the outcome of this election. They know theres no widespread voter fraud. They know this president is playing to his own ego, that he cant he cant bring himself he cant fathom losing. It is sad. So everyone says, i want to come together, i want to come together. How do you come together with people who dont believe in facts and reality . I dont understand it. People who do not believe that one plus one equals two, how do you chem togethome together wit. Of . We have to do it. Im not sure where to start. Maybe thats why im not a politician. I dont know. I dont think it is about the math. How do you not see this . That story, neil wilson, yeah, he checks every box that should make you sick to your stomach, veteran, cant wait to get back on his feet so he can help other people, lost his house, you know. It is not the math, it is our mentality. Yeah. It is our heart. Im just sad. I am just always sad. Yeah. The election, who wins, who loses, nothing changes. It is just we are like consumed by suck and a pandemic is an afterthought. I just i guess that at the end of the day the only truth is that you are what you do, and i cant define myself by how weldon and i or anderson or jake or whoever it is pushes power to acknowledge, it is never going to work, it is never going to be satisfying. We cant do enough. What you can do in your own life, i can drag my kids they dont have to be at school anymore it seems, get them out of the house and go help the hilton cross by at heart of the hamptons and give people food. You were just reading my mind. Just food. We have to figure out. We have to do something for hilton. Just think about it, in america, food, 50 Million People. The richest nation on the earth. If we have if they had millions of dollars for a bogus recount, think about where those millions of dollars can go to help people in your own local community. Just food. Just food. Listen, you just read my mind. We have to help hilton out. We have to do some sort of fundraiser. Poor hilton. All hilton does is try to help people and don and i are talking about them. People will give them turkeys, probably have frozen ones and throw them through the window because everybody is so angry. Heart of the hamptons. Go out and help them. Sorry to take your time. I dont know how to make things better anymore. Thats okay. We have all the time in the world to figure out how to help people. Thats why i love you. I love you, d. Lemon. Lets talk about this. I want you to listen to my open because it is important, chris. I want everyone to listen. Okay. Weve got to do something. We cant continue on this way. We really cant. This is cnn tonight, i am don lemon. Am i the only one who is old enough, the only one who remembers the election we had two weeks and one day ago . Am i . You know, the one where joe biden won. Do you feel like you are being gaslit . You are witnessing an attempted brainwashing of the American People in progress and no one is doing anything to stop it . How about the coronavirus pandemic nightmare, do you feel stuck in an endless cycle of death, destruction . Where as of tonight more than a quarter of a million americans are dead as this pandemic just ravages this country. It is horrible. It is beyond belief. Yet it is true. The current president is willing to let death run rampant now while he hunkers down in the white house that he refuses to let go of and is unwilling to allow the Incoming Administration access to any information that would help them save lives when they take over. That is being done intentionally. The president elect is saying this today. And theres a whole lot of things that are just we just dont have available to us, which unless it is made available soon we will be behind by weeks or months being able to put together the whole initiative relating to the biggest promise we have with two Drug Companies coming along and finding 95 effectiveness, efficiency in the vaccines, which is enormous promise. Notice he is out there talking and doing meeting with experts, but an expert we should be listening to is dr. Anthony fauci who says he wishes he could share information with bidens team. There has not been any form of discussions with the biden people on this. That kind of thing makes it easier to just go from one to the other. So, yes, i would wish that we would be able to do that. That would be helpful. Oh, yeah, it would. This election was supposed to be about making the choice on how to move forward, about putting our divisions aside, finding Common Ground as americans. You would think at the very, very least that we could agree that mass death is bad and we should use the tools that we have to stop it, right . No . If we cannot agree on that and we cant agree on the truth of who won the election, where the hell are we . Even worse, where the hell are we going . People, how do we get through to each other . How do we find some places to agree . How do you do that . How do you do it when a significant portion of the country, starting with the current president , is refusing to accept reality. . Thats where we have to start. There has to be an acceptance of reality. How do we get through with each other when a significant when a significant portion of america refuses to agree on what is real, on reality . Listen, i dont want to talk down to anyone. I never want to talk down to anyone. I dont look down on anyone. Talk to people who know me personally and this is not my m. O. Night after night after night, day after day, my colleagues and i work to get the facts to the American People. Theres a huge chunk, a huge chunk of people, theyre out there and they dont want facts. There is an entire party enthrall to a president who lies nonstop. There is an entire media universe devoted to propping up those lies and making those lies appear true. It is not true. It is an echo chamber. It is messing with your mind. It is not true. Thats where i talk about one plus one equals two. One plus one equals two is not true in that echo chamber. It is disorienting. It is disillusioning, and it is extremely dangerous. What the president is doing right now is dangerous. It is so hard to believe, but this is what is happening, that some people are refusing to accept restrictions that could save our lives and the lives of the people we love. I think a lot of the guidelines youre seeing are or wellan. Let me start by saying the cdc has put out considerations as we prepare to go about thanksgiving, about socially distancing, wearing masks, doing what you can. Theres a whole list, a page of very good considerations. In that they say were not recommending a certain number of people but were going considerations you should put in place. Thats the american way. The American People know how to protect their health. We have dealt with covid for many months. The press is evil. Orwellian . Let me quote to orwell then. Quote, it is a beautiful thing, the destruction of words. And kaylee high has done beautifully, a mouth piece for an administration that is consistently denying the truth, throwing lies back at us. You know, im sure if you tuned in, if youve been watching this network and me for a long time, kayleigh used to sit on this very show and she used to tell the truth about trump. But then, you know, ambition kicked in. Now she sits there at the white house and she tells lies. Did you know she theres a clip with her calling cnn her network on our network. Shes not the only one. This is i want you to see what cnns kayleigh file uncovered. One of the ride or die defends jenna ellis wrote about his supporters, this was back in march of 2016. People always say why you talking about Trump Supporters this way . This is one of his apologists. Quote. His supporters dont care about facts or logic. They arent seeking truth. Trump probably could shoot someone in the middle of nyc and not lose support. And this is the cumulative reason why this nation is in such terrible shape. We dont have truth seekers, we have narcissists. Jenna ellis, quote. The hypocrisy is relentless. It is never ending. They dont care. The president doesnt care what he destroys as long as he could claim victory. Okay. As long as he can claim victory. Today he tweeted out a reuters poll. The poll shows that trumps defiance of the Election Results and his false claims are already affecting the publics confidence in american democracy. So the president who before he lost to joe biden, he used to tweet polls about winning, the now tweeting polls about america is losing faith in our democracy and our elections, as if that is winning for him. Maybe it is. If winning is a zero sum game where he wins and our democracy loses. Believe me, he would be okay with that. Are you . Tonight he remains holed up behind closed doors in the white house nursing his grievances. Former adviser to the former president Valerie Jarrett tweeting, someone is hiding in the basement and it is not joe biden. Where was joe biden . Holding a virtual round table with front line workers today, getting emotional as he listened to listen to this. This is mary turner. Mary turner is an icu nurse on the night shift in the covid unit, the head of minnesota nurses association. Here she is. I myself have held the hand of dying patients who are crying out for their families that they cant see. I have taken care of coworkers as they fight for their lives on a ventilator, and knowing that they got sick because of the hospital or their government hasnt protected them. Im sorry im so emotional. No. It is just you got me emotional. I observed the incredible mental strain on nurses in icu units. I dont care what you think about joe biden or if you voted for him or not, dont really care. That is a human reaction to a horrible situation. That is a recognition that we cant go on like this. Have you heard the current president ever speak that way . We have to find a way to break this spell. We have to do it so that we can get healthy, so we can get whole. People tell me that they like that trump is a fighter. You can be a fighter. You can fight hard as you can fight. You can pull out all of the stops for every single vote. You can even take it to court. But when you lose you got to stand aside, you got to get out of the way, and you got to get ready for the next fight. Now it is the other guys turn. I mean it when i say we have to reach out, reach out to those people who didnt vote for us. Try to try to determine what their fears and concerns were. Some are maybe not anyway, i wont say it. But i think at least half of those folks voted against us are just looking for answers, theyre looking for answers. Theyre not bad folks. That is how we do it in america. If you believe that this was the election was rigged despite all of the evidence otherwise, if you believe all of the lies that the president has been putting out on the tweets, again, i dont want to talk down to people but youre being played. The president , staterun media, conservative media echo chambers, they are playing you for suckers because it is not the truth. Wake up, people no one is looking down at you. No one is looking down at you. There are people trying to help you, trying to help this country come together. Youve got to reach out, but you have to believe in facts and reality. Theres no way to do it if you dont. If you dont, there is no way were ever going to come together and well continue in this loop, this feedback loop of disinformation. Im not here to im here to inform you. I am telling you the truth. Wake up, please, for the good of yourselves and the country. You know why . Because this president , hes running out of road in his attempt to overturn this election. Hes running out of road in the courts, so he is resorting to hail mary recounts. Im going to talk to attorneys general in two states that he is targeting, but the president elect isnt wasting time looking back at an election that he has already won. Im confident, im confident together we can literally put this country back on a path where we can once again lead the 21st century. When i noticed my sister moving differently, she said it was like someone else was controlling her mouth. Her doctor said she has tardive dyskinesia, which may be related to important medication she takes for her depression. Td can affect different parts of the body. [narrator] in todays trying times, were here to help you manage td. Visit talkabouttd. Com for a doctor discussion guide to prep for your next appointment in person, over the phone, or online. We were so relieved to learn there are treatments for td. The president s longshot lawsuits fizzling in the courts as he still refuses to accept the results of the election. Today his campaign paying 3 million for a partial recount in wisconsin, a state that joe biden won by more than 20,000 votes. Boy. The recounts taking place in Milwaukee County and dane county, both democratic strongholds biden won by big margins. He is ahead by more than 180,000 votes in each. Milwaukee county happens to have the largest black population in wisconsin. Those results coming after republicans in Michigans Wayne county temporarily blocked certification of results before backing down. Biden won there, won there handily. Wayne is the states most populous county that includes detroit, a city where four out of every five residents, black. Joining me now, Wisconsin Attorney general josh call and Michigan Attorney general dana nestle. Thank you for joining. Good evening. I really appreciate it. Attorney general call, i will start with you. I want to play something that a Trump Campaign lawyer said about the partial recount in your state. Here it is. Theyre the counties that have in our view the most significant discrepancies and problems and improper behavior that will allow us, we think, sufficient numbers of votes to overturn this election. In fact, we fully expect we will win this recount and at the conclusion of it the number of votes for donald trump will exceed those for joe biden. Set the record straight for us. Have you hired about improper behavior . No, not at all. In fact, we had a remarkably smooth process. You know, there were Election Officials around our state who were working to prepare to respond to a really extraordinary situation, conducting a president ial election in the midst of a pandemic and the process went incredibly smoothly. We had record turnout, and there are no issues. What we have seen though postelection is all sorts of i think we lost him. Yes. Attorney sorry. You cut out for a moment. Can you finish your thought . Yeah. Now what were seeing is an attack on counties that have a majority of the black population in wisconsin. This really is a jim crowlike attack that were seeing between what were seeing in wisconsin and what we saw in michigan on the results of this election. Theyre denying it though. Theyre saying, oh, it is laughable, this is outrageous, this is not racist at all. It has nothing to do with race. Well, theres a margin of over 20,000 votes in wisconsin. It is even bigger in michigan. We had a recount four years ago and nothing like this has been ever overturned. What were seeing is an attempt to heavily scrutinize votes in heavily democratic and heavily minority areas with the goal of trying to disenfranchise our fellow wisconsinines who wanted their voices heard in this election. Just because you say it isnt show, i think the facts show what youre saying, attorney general. Attorney general nestle, we saw what happened in Michigans Wayne county last night. Now President Trump is tweeting out lies that the number of votes in michigan more than the number of people who voted. Are the gop and trump trying to steal the election in michigan . What is going on here . Well, i mean it certainly appears that way. I mean if you put this in the context, so i live in wayne county. We have 1. 7 Million People who live here. So there are at least 12 states in the country that have fewer people than we do here in wayne county. Yet we had the republicans on the board of canvassers in wayne county initially refused to certify the election, which was i mean it was unprecedented, nothing that i had seen before. Pardon me. Thats okay. Sorry. You know, only after several hours of Public Comment where they were scorned and ridiculed and shamed did they decide to go ahead and actually do their job, which, by the way, by law theyre mandated to do. This is not a choice they get to do, and certify the election. Only after one of the republicans said she would be willing to certify all of the suburban areas outside of detroit but not the city of detroit. So i would say that they really you know, they kept on their mask but they really pulled out their hoods during the course. The suburban areas are especially theres one city thats 95 white they were perfectly willing to certify, who actually had more irregularities than in wayne county, am i correct . Thats right. The city of lavonia. Interesting. So, attorney general, call, simple question here. Do you have any doubt at all that wisconsins votes will go to joe biden . No, i have none. The margin is far more, multiple times more than any margin that has ever been overcome in a recount. The fundamental problem the Trump Campaign have is people showed up to vote, votes were legally cast and more voted for joe biden. At the end of the day thats what will determine the outcome of the election. Thank you both. Good luck. I know it is a busy time for you and i really appreciate you joining us here on cnn. Thank you so much. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Thanks. The president is spreading false and damaging conspiracies that his followers, millions of people, actually believe. Joe biden is still saying tonight he can unite this country. How will he do it . Were going to take a look at that and talk about that next. T. With priceline, you can get up to 60 off amazing hotels. And when you get a big deal. You feel like a big deal. Priceline. Every trip is a big deal. Working, parenting, problem solving. At new chapter vitamins weve been busy too. Innovating, sourcing organic ingredients, testing them and fermenting. Fermenting . Yeah like kombucha or yogurt. And we formulate everything so your body can really truly absorb the natural goodness. Thats what we do, so you can do you. New chapter wellness, well done. So there are new signs emerging that people in President Trumps orbit are growing frustrated over his refusal to concede the election. Sources are telling cnn a handful of current and former Trump Administration officials have quietly started to reach out to members of president elect joe bidens Transition Team, but many republicans still publicly supporting President Trump stonewalling or silently standing by him. Joining me now is New York Times columnist thomas freed and were happy to have him. Hes author of thank you for being late, an optimists guide to thriving in the age of accelerations. Good to see you, mr. Friedman. I appreciate you joining. Great to be with you. You were worried about the fate of america before the election. How are you feeling now . Well, you know, quite mixed. On the one hand, don, we actually just had a remarkable election. More americans voted in this election than any time in our history, and their neighbors and friends went out and counted the votes, and they did it despite a spreading pandemic. They seem to have done it quite well. It is really the most impressive election we have had since, you know, lincoln defeated mcclelland in 1864 in the middle of a civil war. Thats the good news. The bad news, of course, is we have a president who really sought to soil the amazing achievement by fraudulently claiming fraud. You know, don, i have been thinking. I was listening to the show before i came on here. Theres one Silver Lining of this whole process of recounts. You know, when americans see, when all of this is done they will see two things i believe. One is that the votes really were counted fairly. I mean there will be some discrepancies of a few hundred votes here and there, and the courts really are not rising to all of these bogus challenges. In a weird way it may strengthen the system and it may actually strengthen bidens legitimacy because theres one thing no one will be able to legitimately claim when it is all over and thats the election was stolen, that the votes werent counted properly. You must be reading my Text Messages i have been sending to people saying the same exact thing when they started this whole recount thing. I said in the end it will show that the election was real and it may break people from some people from their spell. So well see. I think you are right about that. A significant number of republicans though, tom, theyre being led to believe that President Trump rightfully won the election. The well is being poisoned before joe biden even begins, before he even gets in office. What does that mean before the biden presidency when it does begin . Well, i think two things are on my mind right now, don. That is once trump is gone, what will be this Republican Party . We dont know. Will he continue to hold a spell over them . We really dont know. Im not going to make any predictions about that. I think one of the things that could emerge is a group of moderate, sane, conservatives who realize that this version of the gop is really unhealthy, that the country needs a sane, conservative movement. If we have a healthy conservative movement, we will have a healthier liberal movement i believe. I wouldnt be surprised if you gait bre get a breakaway thing and it could be a challenge to republicans. If you have a sane conservative party split off, if it wins 5 , 10 of the vote, that party cant win any national election. I think once the spell of trump is broken, don, anything is possible. So, you know, you covered other parts of the world for decades, right . Youve seen firsthand what can happen when people lose faith in government institutions. Are you confident america will find a better path . Well, what worries me right now, don, is that were just in this moment of intense insecurity. We dont know who is in charge. We dont know where the pandemic is going. Because of the nature of how news is being produced these days and this administration, we dont know what to believe. I dont recall in our history a moment of this kind of anxiety. Now, i dont know how we do it, don, but when this election is over and trump passes from the scene, we have got to find a way as a society, republicans and democrats together, we have got to find a way to restore the stigma to lying. Whats been broken here is the stigma on line. We have people now just lying freely without any worry about being called out on it. Lying and enervating people, enraging people has become its own industry. It will need its own line in our gdp report. Somehow we as a society have to work on that because you cant have a democracy without truth and trust. Without truth we cant agree where to go. Without trust we cant go there together. Got it. So we need a weekend retreat. Yes. Listen, i have to run. I want to tell you, it is november 5th at 6 32 p. M. Someone who works in politics said, i harvear trump is goingl in on fraud. This is my response, yeah, makes him look weak, exposes his frailty. Good for system ultimately because it will show system is not fraudulent, no widespread voter fraud. Imperfect system, yes. Widespread fraud, no. That was on november 5th. Youre reading my mind. Great. Think alike. Lets hope we are both right. Hope so. I appreciate it. Next, the u. S. Passing a quarter of a million death from coronavirus today. Former hhs secretary reacting next. [ ] do you struggle with dull, dry skin, and find yourself reapplying moisturizer throughout the day . Try olay ultra rich. Olays luxurious moisturizer melts into the skin. Its formulated with vitamin b3 plus peptides and shea butter, providing lasting hydration, for up to 24 hours. 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And while we dont yet have a cure or a vaccine, we do know how to keep you and your loved ones safe. Wear a mask. Wash your hands. Stay six feet apart. Do your best to stay out of crowded spaces. And get a flu shot, its even more important this year. We can do this. If we do it together. Sad to report another sadly milestone in the pandemic. The virus has killed more than a quarter of million americans, and yet secretary of health and Human Services alex azar saying today he will not work with president elect joe bidens team, at least not until General Services administrator emily murphy ascertains that biden won the election. An Administration Official is telling cnn hhs staffers have been told if theyre contacted by anyone from bidens team theyre not to communicate with them and instead should alert the Deputy Surgeon general. That as a pandemic rages on. More than 160,000 new cases just today, more than 1,700 deaths reported. The number of people hospitalized in the u. S. Soaring. Lesss discuss with former hhs secretary kathleen sebelius. Secretary sebelius, good to see you. Thank you for your time in advance. So what is going on nice to see you, don. At hhs and bottom line for us, will this delay and lack of coordination cost lives . Well, what is going on at hhs and basically throughout the government is shocking and totally unprecedented. A transition should be an easy transfer of power to make sure that the incoming team doesnt drop the ball, that all the americans get the services they deserve and need for their daily lives. But were in the midst of a pandemic, and i dont think theres any question that any delay in transferring information that could help the biden team plan for the future is potentially going to cost lives. We are we are in a total crisis and we have a president who has not mentioned this, a petulant president who only talks about his own madeup grievances and vote recounts. He cannot acknowledge the fact that the virus is raging. He cant acknowledge the fact that it is totally out of control. He will not talk to the American Public honestly about what needs to happen, and so we need the biden team to be even more prepared than they would otherwise. We need them to get ready for the massive Vaccination Campaign once we have a safe and effective vaccine announced. We have two very strong candidates now emerging. We need to make sure that we have the ppe to actually deal with this current surge. This is a very dangerous time and no one should be locking the Transition Team out of agencies. The president , you know, who is on his way out can recount all of the votes he wants, can run them through whatever counters. That doesnt stop the transition from Going Forward since the election has been called. Listen, you have expertise and i know it is frustrating. You have expertise in this and thats the reason we have you here, because you are seeing these numbers, secretary, these latest number in this pandemic. I want to know what your concerns. What concerns you most about where we are in this fight right now . Well, don, you gave some of the numbers, but i think you need to put them also into context. That case rate is up 80 in the last two weeks. So we are on this steep, steep climb. The death rate is up almost 40 in the last two weeks. We are going exactly in the wrong direction as we head into the coldest months of the year when more and more people will be inside. We can compare that to europe, who has seen a second spike. What is going on there is a very coordinated message country to country where all of the country leaders are agreeing that first schools are a priority and, secondly, they are beginning to restrict activities and urge people to not only wear masks and social distance but cut back on activities so children can stay in school. They are also driving money to the affected populations. We have Mitch Mcconnell sitting in the United States senate doing nothing. He will not pass or negotiate a package of resources to state and local governments, which are going to need to massively upgrade for a Vaccination Campaign to individuals so that they may be able to look at restricted activities and know that they can feed their kids and pay their rent. Right. And we have no coordinated message strategy. We are absolutely in the wrong direction, and the president s team refusing to let the transition take place, refusing to let people get into agencies and see what the logistic planning is, where the gaps are in agencies. It is really going to cause people to die. It is unbelievable what is happening there. Secretary, listen, we appreciate you coming on. We will have you back. Thank you very much. Thanks so much. A recount good to be with you. A runoff. Everyone is watching georgia. Im going to speak with one of the candidates hoping to represent that state and flip the senate. He wants to turn it blue. John ossoff next. Their own safelite story. 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Joe biden will still take the state, and they have not seen any widespread voter fraud. Next up for georgia, two senate run off elections that will determine the balance of power in the senate. Joining us now is jon ossoff, democratic challenger running against david perdue. Good to see you mr. Ossoff. Thank you very much for joining. Despite allegations of fraud from trump, many republicans, brad ratherens berger told jake tapper today that he hasnt seen widespread fraud. Do you expect these allegations to be a problem in your run off election . Well, weve seen our two incumbent republican senators attacking georgias republican secretary of state. It looks to me like he let too Many Democrats vote. I think they wanted Voter Suppression to deliver the state for them. And the overwhelming democratic turnout means trump has lost in georgia. Rather than accept that, theyre indulging trumps denial, which, by the way, is impairing an orderly transition of power that can save lives and help the Incoming Administration invest in the economy. There are lines at food banks, families about to celebrate thanksgiving without family, people on the verge of foreclosure and eviction and this is a huge distraction. I should tell people mailin ballots for your election went out today. Im sure youre encouraging people to mail in their ballots, right, to take part in that process . Absolutely. This election is coming up fast and were running a historic program. Voces in georgia, december 14th is the first day of early voting. Now is the time to request an absentee ballot. Election day is january 5th, but dont put it off. Make a plan to vote. For folks who want to help us power the turnout effort, its electjon. Com. We have the advantage in terms of our hustle on the ground and electjon. Com is where to help us power the effort. The Washington Post is reporting republicans are worried about the Georgia Senate run offs and privately wondering if the president could be a political burden. Do you think antitrump sentiment will be a factor in your race, john . I think the problem that the gop has is that the national Republican Party has no leader and has no agenda other than trying to ensure that joe biden fails. And what the country needs is for this Incoming Administration to succeed, to empower Public Health experts. Like you know this, don, we have the cdc, the centers for Disease Control and prevention here in georgia. We need to be resourcing it and empowering its scientists and doctors to lead the pandemic response. In other words, what hasnt been happening for the last eight months. We need to rush economic and Financial Relief to families and businesses that are on the brink. The senate is adjourning tonight yet again with nothing to show the American People who are suffering. Its like they have no idea whats going on in the real world. Yeah. What is david perdue what is senator perdue, i should say, what is he afraid of . Because he wont debate you ahead of your january run off . Hes refusing to debate. He seems to be having some issues with selfconfidence. He didnt perform very well when we debated in savanna a few weeks back. I asked senator perdue as you maybe saw in the clip that went around why he voted to repeal protections for preexisting conditions, why he had insisted covid was no deadlier than the flu while he was loading up on vaccine and medical stocks. By the way, more news today about David Perdues use of his office to enrich himself, pumping and dunking on the Senate Armed Services committee. This guys been enriching himself in office and i called him out on it. He didnt like it and he refuses to debate. If he didnt want to answer questions in public, he just shouldnt run for reelection to the senate. Jon, thank you. Good luck to you. 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