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CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon December 17, 2019

Women. Yes. A single mom at times, stretching a penny into a dollar, right . Women have been running the households, taking care of the bills, running businesses, running businesses from home while the men think theyre actually running it. So i think women rule the world, and i dont care if people criticize me. And especially, listen, i think women have been carrying the black community on their shoulders for centuries. And so, you know, for me, i think theyre the best. And im not just saying that. Heres the question, philosopher. What . Then why doesnt it happen . Why are they underrepresented in every way and undercounted . Because men want to mansplain, and they wont let go of power. Its the same thing that were seeing now with politics. Men wont let go. Its the same thing youre seeing now with obama also said that. Youre copying him. Oh, i didnt know that. Thats what he said. Men wont let go, but its the same thing were seeing now with the larger culture. They wont let go. Its the same thing were seeing with the trump folks. They wont let go. The country is becoming browner. The people who wont let go are yuch set and theyre fighting it and theyre mad. Its the last vestiges of people clinging to that sort of power. You know what my concern is as were raising our two daughters right now . Is that it can be difficult for women youre outnumbered in that house by the way. I am because mario, hes a swing vote at best. The idea hes going to come on my side is very dicey. So you know what im talking about. You know what i worry about with them, and you really feel this in school. The boys take all the time in class. They get negative attention, positive attention, they answer all the questions, they get half of them wrong. Its hard for women to have to adjust sometimes to these systems that men have made that stink, and it often can bring them down. I think we see it in our plx. You see women especially on the right adopting positions and postures that almost seem like a bad version of a man instead of being their better self because the system doesnt allow it. But i think were going to see more and more of it going forward. Didnt jake tappers daughter write a book about it . Oh, so good, about how kids are in class. I got it for the kids. Talk about talent running in a family. Hes a beautiful writer. So is his daughter, alice. Were not talking about jake. Were talking about her. Sometimes its nice to give a parent credit. Youll see. That will change with you when you start having some little ones. All of a sudden, youll be like, who do you think taught them . Its very real, and its a real challenge. I like the second question, why doesnt it stop . Why dont they get more opportunity . Why arent they equally paid . Because they wont let it go. Men come up with explanations to continue their wrongs. Speaking of letting it go, in my ear. Its the best part of my show, and its the shortest part of both and women are in control of both. Women are running both of our shows, and so there you go. I forgot what i was going to say, but, yeah, women are running both of our shows. Thats true, don. Thats true. All right. See you. Have a good night. You too. This is cnn tonight. Im don lemon, and were on the verge of making history right now. The president of the United States all but certain to be impeached on wednesday, a day from now really. Its almost tuesday now. Only the third president to be impeached. And how is he responding . Well, hes doing what he always does, just a lot more of it. Doubling down by hes doubling down with a provably false or misleading claim or claims. The Washington Post reports he has made more than 15,400 false or misleading claims since he took the oath of office. And thats just as of last week. But heres how you know how much impeachment is getting to him. The post reports that october and november of this year were two of his lyingest months. And nearly 600 of those lies or those false or misleading claims are related to the ukrainian investigation. I guess his strategy is if you dont like the facts, just make something up. But the president s republican defenders arent even trying to pretend that theyre going to hold him accountable in any way, and theyre being about as blatant as they can get. Rudy giuliani, his loose cannon attorney, telling the new yorker this about the exambassador to ukraine, quote, i believe that i needed yovanovich out of the way. She was going to make the investigation difficult for everybody. Part, i dont know, maybe 1 million in the never ending saga of giuliani saying things that really dont help the president the way he seems to think they do. He flatout admits he admits it right there, that he wanted ambassador marie yoifrn ovanovi because she was standing in the way of investigations the president wanted, investigation of hunter biden, and that it was ukraine, not russia, that was behind election interference in 2016, the very investigations the president was trying to get when he leaned on ukraine in the infamous july 25th phone call that set off the impeachment investigation. When he said, quote, i would like you to do us a favor, though, because our country has been through a lot and ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with ukraine. They say crowdstrike. I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say ukraine has it. And then this. Theres a lot of talk about bidens son, that biden stopped the prosecution. A lot of people want to find out about that, so whatever you can do with the attorney general would be great. Now we have Rudy Giuliani with what appears to be the very first time someone explicitly linked the ambassadors removal to those bogus investigations. That seems like a pretty big deal, doesnt it, right . The president s attorney admitting he wanted the ambassador out of the way so he could get the investigations the president wanted, admitting it right after his return from yet another sketchy mission to ukraine. Seems like something the president would want to hear all about, doesnt it . How much has giuliani shared with you about his recent trip to ukraine . Oh, not too much. Not too much . Not too much . I thought he had a whole lot. Lets remember the wall street journal reported friday that while giuliani was on his way back from ukraine, while his plane was still taxiing down the runway, the president called to ask him, what did you get . Hey, what did you get . Rudy replied, more than you can imagine. Lets remember the president , more than a week ago, said this about Rudy Giulianis adventures in ukraine. He says he has a lot of good information. I hear hes found plenty. Okay . So which is it . Wait a minute. I got a lot of good information or not too much . In any case, the president would like you to know exactly why giuliani does whatever the heck he is doing. He does this out of love, believe me. He does it out of love. He knows what hes doing. He does it out of love. Its love. He just loves it. Loves it and him and the country. He just does it out of love. And then theres this. The president s number one fan in the senate, Lindsey Graham, who really takes the cake when it comes to being a blatant partisan. I am trying to give a pretty clear signal i have made up my mind. Im not trying to pretend to be a fair juror here. Not even trying to pretend to be a fair juror. With an impeachment trial looming in the senate in a matter of weeks. And make no mistake, senators will the jurors in that trial. Each and every one of them swearing to, quote, do impartial justice according to the constitution and laws. And yet Lindsey Graham blatantly says he is not even trying to pretend to be a fair juror. At least hes honest about that. Though things sure have changed since bill clintons impeachment trial 20 years ago. If a republican president had done these things, would a republican delegation gone to tell him to get out of town . I hope so. Well, it sure doesnt any republicans are going to tell this president to get out of town. And then theres the question of whether senators will let any witnesses testify in the trial. Chuck schumer says that he wants to hear from four current and former officials including Mick Mulvaney and john bolton. There is no reason on gods green earth why they shouldnt be called and testify unless youre afraid of what they might say. Well, the republicans are pretty blatant about that too. They dont want to hear from witnesses. Schumer has asked for hearing from bolton and mulvaney. Do you have any desire to hear from them in the senate trial . Nope. That from senate intel chairman chairman richard burr, who seemed to value a bipartisan approach, until now anyway. Hmm. Wonder how republicans would feel if, just for an example, a democratic president were being impeached. If only we had some idea how they felt about witnesses during, say, the clinton impeachment. Every other impeachment has had witnesses. Its not unusual to have witnesses in a trial, and i think were handling this in exactly the appropriate way under the constitution, and it will end soon. Always videotape for everything, right . Well, i guess that was then. This is now. Speaking of Mitch Mcconnell, speaking of blatantly siding with the president no matter what, lets not forget this. Im coordinating with white house counsel. There will be no difference between the president s position and our position as to how to handle this. Yep, that is pretty blatant all right. Lets face it. Its a message to an audience of one. We have a brandnew cnn poll. It finds the country may be even more deeply divided on impeachment than you thought. Governor john kasich there he is right there weighs in next. Introducing. Smartdogs. The first dogs trained to train humans. Stopping drivers from liking. Selfieing. And whatever this is. Available to the public. Never. Smartdogs are not the answer. But geico has a simple tip. Turn on do not disturb while driving mode. Brought to you by geico. Hey, our workers comp insurance is expiring. Should i just renew it . Yeah, sure. Hey there, Small Business owner. Pie insurance here with some sweet advice to stop you from overpaying on workers comp. Try pie instead and save up to 30 . Thirty percent . Really . Sure get a quote in 3 minutes at easyaspie. Com. That is easy. So, need another reminder . No, im good. Reminder for what . Oh. Ho ho, yeah need workers comp insurance . Get a quote in 3 minutes at easyaspie. Com. So the house all but certain to vote wednesday to impeach the president followed by a trial in the senate next month. That as a brand new cnn impeachment poll finds the country about evenly split on whether he should be impeached and removed from office. Lets discuss with former Ohio Governor john kasich. Good to see you my friend. Lets talk about this brandnew cnn poll tonight. 45 say President Trump should be impeached and removed. 47 opposed to that. That is within the margin of error, in line with the polls we have seen recently, where we see about half the country wants him impeached and removed and so on and so forth. What do you think . The fox poll actually showed more people, like half the country supporting it, so its very, very close. Well, were very divided, don. The thing that amazes me, the discussion now thats going on on capitol hill if you watch any of these hearings is, you know, whether you think that donald trump should be impeached or whether he should be censured or whatever, im amazed at the people who say he didnt do anything wrong at all. You know, how is it possible when hes making a call to a foreign leader and saying, investigate my political opponent. You cant say it didnt happen. You cant say it didnt exist. But if you listen to a number of the people right now on capitol hill in the Republican Party, they kind of say theres nothing wrong here. Okay. Maybe theyre not going to go for impeachment. Maybe theyre not going to go for censure, but just to ignore reality seems to be awfully crazy. So i brought you another little chart. Oh, my god. Which i guess our viewers like, okay . So its back to another triangle. I want to just we have it up on the screen. Weve got it up on the full screen. Go for it. Well, you didnt ruin my artwork. No. We have yours. Okay. They live in a silo, right . Yeah. We have people that live in a silo. They only absorb that that they agree with. Okay. And then their views are reinforced by social media and reinforcing media. So they only get information that reinforces their view. Right. They never find the truth because the truth is not a matter of opinion. The truth is a fact. And so when you wonder how does this happen, its because people are in silos. They only read and they only hear things and they only hang out with people who tell them theyre right, and thats why they just cant even admit any of the facts at all. And the truth always escapes them. Hmm. What do you think of that . Well, i think youre right, but the thing is, is how do you get them out of the silo . How do you get them out of their can we put the thing back up there . You said they live in a silo. They live in a silo. And then their social all they do is Pay Attention to social media that agrees with them or reinforcing media, the regular media, television, newspapers. They have to decide they want to try to find the truth. And if you live in a silo, guess what . Youre pretty uninteresting, and youre pretty boring, and you are unwilling to test what you think because i guess youre afraid to go out and say, well, maybe i was wrong. Okay, okay. But then isnt that but isnt that a failure of leadership because the leaders in the Republican Party should know the truth. Yeah. And theyre not telling their constituents. Dont they have an obligation to tell their constituents the truth because then theyre misleading people. Well the interesting they want to be reelected, and we can get to that in the future here. But basically, don, if they give any hint of the fact that theyd be wondering about this, then they get hammered by social media. They get attacked viciously on social media, and then they get called out by the media that they usually Pay Attention to. Do you really care . I mean its not nobody cares. Don, no. Guess what, don . Youre not everybody else. Your mama raised you a certain way so you can be open to other ideas. Thats why when we were on here the other night, you pointed out that the fbi had made mistakes according to the horowitz report. You didnt put your head in the sand. You actually listened to it and thought it, and i believe youre capable of changing an opinion. Im capable of changing an opinion, but we were raised to get our head out of the sand. We were raised to listen to other points of view. That is not happening today, so in the Republican Party when you watch those hearings, these people wouldnt even criticize that phone call. How is its crazy. So theyre not going to discover the truth, and the truth sets you free as you know. But all im saying is listen, i get going back to, you know, a town hall, you know, in your town and youve got to face your constituents, and you should welcome that even if theyre yelling at you. And even if theyre yelling at you, like justin amash did, youve got to say, listen, guys. What he did or whatever, hes done some things that are impeachable. I got to tell you im sorry. I got to tell you that was wrong. Our leaders shouldnt be doing that. I got to tell you, blah, blah, blah. You have to do that if youre a leader. Well heres what i dont understand. Why do you care what some stranger says about you on social media . No one gives a crap, and you dont have to be on social media. Get off social media. Who cares . They care no, but they care a lot because theyre afraid at the end of the day if they get hammered over there, they might lose. Now, if you take the guy up in new jersey who said hes going to switch parties, he said hes going to switch parties because everybody was yelling at him and he realizes hes going to switch parties because he cant win as a democrat. Hes not switching parties because of impeachment. Hes switching parties because he wants a job. Thats why hes switching parties. Well, that gets down to careerism. That gets down to the fact that some people want job security at the risk of all other things. Now, don, we cant really hammer them because we got our faults. They got their faults. But to me, its about the truth. And if you cant open your mind to what the truth is, the truth is not relative. The truth is a fact. I agree. Im just saying to you in our country today, not with just our leaders, but with the public, too many of them living in a silo. All of us tend to live in silos. We need to get out. Lets get back to this poll. Were sitting here talking like were having a beer, and i think people get freaked out by it. I think they like it. I may be in my own silo here. In our cnn poll, if you break down by gender, in november, 61 of women supported trump being impeached and removed. That is down to 51 now. For men, it has pretty much stayed the same from 40 and 38 . But a majority of women still support impeachment. What does that say to you . I say that women are going to be the deciding factor in the elections, especially suburban white women and black women overall. Well, to me, don, its about its not just about the policy. Its about its about the culture. What women dont like is all this yelling and screaming. Yep. I dont like it either, but i think theyre particularly sensitive to it, and theyre concerned about issues Like Health Care because this health care stuff is really hard on a lot of families. And i think that women are, you know, obviously they feel under the gun when it comes to health care. Im not saying that men dont, but in many respects, theyre the ones going to the doctor. Theyre the ones looking at the bills, and i think this is really big. Now, the poll that was out just a couple days ago showed independent support going up. So i believe that as more ive always said as more and more information comes out, then i think it will be change things. However, don, i hate to go back to the triangle again. But if youre in a silo, no matter what they say, they dont believe it. They go, well, thats just fake news. Thats just false. Yeah. And that is dangerous for our country. Thats why were so divided. If people could just look at the other side, respect the other side, listen to the other side, and thats what it used to be in congress. You bring up the leaders in congress. One of the problems we have with our leaders in congress is theyre not telling the people that work with them to grow up, be mature, knock it off, stop. This is not what it means to be a member of congress. Yeah. Well, youre right because a lot of folks there, you can see it in the hearings, they want t

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