Controversial deal or express any regrets and even made a point of throwing Florida State prosecutors under the bus. A state grand jury brought that single completely unacceptable charge. A state official allowed epstein to selfsurrender. I wanted to help them. That is why we intervened. We did what we did because we wanted to see epstein go to jail. He needed to go to jail. There was value to getting a guilty plea. You can always look at a play after the fact and say, should it have been the safe play or should you have gone for the big score . Well, tonight the white house saying acosta still has trumps support, but the question is for how long. I want to bring in now susan glasser, juliette kayyem, scott jennings. Good evening, one and all. So good to have you on. Mr. Jennings, im going to start with you. So we saw the embattled labor secretary alex acosta defend the epstein plea deal he oversaw. The president ordered him out there. Will he keep his job . You know, honestly, im not sure because there are two issues for secretary acosta right now. The epstein issue, which is a huge distraction for the white house and for the president and his agenda, and then you have a number of people in the white house who do not believe he has been properly executing the president s agenda as secretary of labor. Thats a cabinet where a lot of deregulation issues need to occur. Theres a lot of people in the white houses policy stream that dont think secretary acosta has done right by President Trump and what he wants to see happen at the department of labor. Ultimately the epstein thing, though, is a huge distraction, and when you serve in one of these jobs, ultimately you serve at the pleasure of the president , and if you become a major headache and distracts for the president , honestly, i think you have a duty to resign so that someone who isnt a distraction can take over. Chris ruddy told me last night he thinks it will be a matter of weeks. What do you think . Yeah, it sounds to me like chris ruddy i think is it could be shorter than that, honestly. I think i think acosta had to do what he did today, and i know there are people who say some of the things he said today were not entirely accurate, but it strikes me hes on the shorter independent of the stick right now. Susan, katie rogers over at the New York Times acted act acosta what makes him so confident that the president will keep him on. This is acostas answer. Watch. I am here to talk about this case. Im doing my job. If at some point the president decides that i am not the best person to do this job, i respect that, that is his choice, i serve at the pleasure of the president. I thought yesterday he was kind and he showed great support. But we have to remember we are here because we are part of an administration that is creating jobs, that is creating growth, that is really transforming our economy and focussing it on, you know, the forgotten man and woman. So, susan, step one to keep your job, praise the boss. Did he do enough of that, you think . Well, i dont know. It wasnt over the top, as sycophantic flattery goes. You know, there is this is a new factor, i would say, in my years in washington, the kind of audience of one factor played out on national television. It really has been a striking aspect of the last few years, that, you know, increasingly you have senior officials in the government not just in private but in public basically appealing to the boss and only the boss, but, you know, tonight, don, im struck by listening to your previous segment and then comparing it with this. Were in a situation in the washington where you lose your job for telling the truth in a secret diplomatic cable to your own government if youre the ambassador to britain because when President Trump doesnt like it, but you keep your job if you give a sweetheart plea deal to a sex offender. I mean, you know, the juxtaposition of this particular news cycle is just one of those jarring moments that suggests that weve moved pretty far away from what we would previously consider under any administration, democratic or republican, to be a normal situation. Juliette, one Senior Administration official put it this way to cnns jim acosta. He said one day youre working for the president , one day youre not. Weve seen how this can sometimes play out with other cabinet secretaries. Sometimes youre even fired by tweet, you know . Yeah. Its true. I mean, who would have thought that secretary purdue of the Agriculture Department would be the last man standing at this stage . But he may outlive all of us. Look, i view this as sort of not just a trump internal, you know, whos in, whos out story from the perspective of just making the government function. Im not even talking about sort of trumps policy agenda. It relies on consistency, continuity and trust. Thats what it is. You know, whether its, you know, the state Department Working with its allies or the defense Department Working with other military, or, for example, the department of Homeland Security working with its state and local partners. So the sort of whos in, whos out and we dont know tomorrow undermines that consistency and continuity that leads to good governance. So just looking at new orleans state. New orleans is already flooding. It is going to get hit likely with the hurricane. We do not have a secretary nor a nominee for secretary of Homeland Security because of trumps not liking the last the last one. We dont have a head of fema. I mean, thats the kind of thing where its just, you know, they cant even get the basics right. That a citys about to flood and we dont even know who is in charge. Scott, listen, heres the playbook, okay . A controversy swirls around a cabinet official, ethics violations flying on private planes or just not liking the guy, and the president offers a luke it lukewarm response. Watch this. How about your interior secretary . Were looking at that, and i want i do want to study whatever is being said. Is he in jeopardy . I think hes doing an excellent job but we will take a look at that and well probably have an idea about that in about a week. Scott prosecute uitt is doint job within the walls of the epa. Were setting records. Outside hes being attacked very viciously by the press, and im not saying that hes blameless, but well see what happens. Im very disappointed by the attorney general, but well see what happens. Well see. Hes a very fine man, but were going to make a decision some time tonight. I felt very badly because secretary price is a good man. I mean, scott, we get that well see response a lot, dont we . Then you have secretaries zinke, youve got price, pruitt, youve got attorney general sessions, theyre all gone. Yeah, in some of those cases, don, those people were actually executing the president s agenda. I dont think there is any doubt that pruitt was doing exactly at the epa was donald trump wanted. The difference for acosta is a lot of people who are inside the oval office with the president talking about his agenda daily do not believe acosta is even doing that. And now you pile the epstein thing on top of it, it strikes me that his enemies here in the personnel stream are stacking up, and with an administration thats got, you know, a little bit of time left in the first term. You dont know whether youre going to win reelection or not. Theres a lot of regulatory issues they want to get accomplished at labor and they feel like in many cases acosta and hes people have slowwalked it, quite frankly, maybe not honest with the white house about slowwalking it. These are archean things that arent in the news every day, but vital. Secretary price was forced out only a few hours after the president s well see. This can happen sometimes happen quickly. Well, look, this happens in any administration. There is often expressions of support for the doomed official up until the immediate moment when there isnt. Im remembering juliette talked about fema. Remember heck of a job brownie, so, you know, President Trump is not the first president to, you know, express support for somebody right before he chops their head off. I think the thing that we should also note, though, about this particular case is that there is clearly an ongoing weakness and usually when you get dumped is when you already had some internal rivals or political trouble in an administration. Number one. Number two, President Trump is uncomfortably close himself to this particular scandal. Remember that the president doesnt want us talking a lot about Jeffrey Epstein, with whom he had a longterm friendship and close relationship. Lets be real. As a parent of a 14yearold, this is a horrific story. You know, we are talking about the president of the United States, he now says he hardly knew him, but, you know, a previous life was a close friendship and often apparently in private settings with Jeffrey Epstein and these young women. And so were going to be talking about that as long as there is this ongoing controversy involving a senior official in the Trump Administration and whether he gave a sweetheart deal to this exact same alleged sex offender. So, you know, its a pretty horrible story that involves trump himself. Juliette, does this administration have a vetting problem . Is that what you call it . Yes. It does. Its just clear that nobody is going look whats happening over at the defense department. I didnt even mention them, right . We dont have a secretary of defense. I think some of the services i think three of the four services dont have a lead. Now the deputy or the vice chair of the joint chiefs has a Sexual Harassment allegation or actually i think a retaliation issue going on. His nomination i think is going to be pulled. And so, you know, theres two problems. One is there it no vetting. The other problem is ive never seen so many disgusting men up for big jobs. I mean, youre vetting, right . So that you catch something. How how are people like this serving at the highest levels of government . I mean it. I mean, just the sort of the Sexual Harassment, the corruption and everything. So its not such a vetting process as it is sort of, you know, i guess ethics issue as well. That these people are getting nominated. And i have to say just going back, why i dont understand the acosta how he became secretary. Im very curious about that for the same reasons as susans saying. Theres a lot of connections going on here that im sure trump doesnt want us to talk about but acosta as head of labor was not an obvious pick and i think trump may very well want acosta to go away. That will have to be the last word. Thank you, but interesting. Thank you all. I appreciate it. The spotlight shifts when Robert Mueller finally testifies before congress in just one week. On live tv with americans from coast to coast watching. Im going to talk to one of the lawmakers who will be questioning, asking some questions, and that is congressman jaime raskin. Hes here and hes next. Award winning interface. Award winning design. Award winning engine. The volvo xc90. The most awarded luxury suv of the century. Discover elvive protein recharge leavein conditioner. Our heat protecting formula, leaves hair 15times stronger. In just 1 use elvive revives damaged hair. Burger i want a sugar cookie i want a bucket of chicken i want. Its the easiest, because its the cheesiest kraft. 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One of the lawmakers who will be questioning mueller is with me tonight, and thats congressman jamie raskin, a member of the house judiciary and oversight committees. Congressman, thank you for joining us. I appreciate it. Good to be with you, don. Absolutely. There is one week until muellers testimony but so little time for questions. You told our manu raju today that democrats need to resist the impulse to editorialize. Explain why thats so important. Well, what we need to do is just to be a vehicle for communication for the special counsel. Whose words in his report have been distorted and misstated repeatedly by attorney general barr and by donald trump. You know, with their idiotic mantra of no obstruction, no collusion, theyve cast a cloud of propaganda over the whole country. So we just want to give special counsel mueller the chance to come and to dispel the fog of propaganda, you know, on pages 1 of 2 of the report, he says i dont deal with the question of collusion, which is not a criminal law concept, its an antitrust law concept, and, in fact, he details more than 150 episodes of interactions between the Trump Campaign and various russian nationals. So there is plenty of evidence of collusion in the everywhere knack vernacular. Do you you actually think you can get politicians to not editorialize . Thats a big ask . I think given the time constraints were going to be very disciplined. Okay. Were going to follow a script and were going to try to work as a team. Weve gotten some practice doing it in some of these hearings, reading off the same script, and i think we need to give him a chance to speak to the country. There is so much evidence of president ial obstruction, we just need him to state it in his own voice, in his own words. Okay. You chair the House Oversight committee on kids in cages. I just want to play some of the emotional testimony that you heard today. This is from a migrant woman speaking through a translator, okay . Here it is. Translator my name is jasmine juarez. My daughter and i fled guatemala seeking asylum in the United States. We made this journey because we feared for our lives. The trip was dangerous but i was more afraid of what might happen to us if we stayed. So we came to the United States where i hope to build a better, safer life for us. Unfortunately, that did not happen. Instead, i watched my baby girl die slowly and painfully just a few months before her second birthday. Powerful testimony. What are you trying to accomplish with these hearings . Well, that was jasmine juarez, whose 3yearold daughter died after contracting a serious respiratory ailment. When she arrived there at the detention center, the ice box, she said that they encountered lots of kids who were coughing and sneezing and clearly sick and it was just a matter of days before her daughter, maria, got sick. And yet there was no medical attention and we had testimony also from a doctor today, dr. Gutierrez, who said there are all kinds of doctors who want to come in and help. Theyre not allowed to come in and there is not sufficient medical attention at all. So, you know, ms. Juarez testified about how she would wait in line all day long and then not be seen by a doctor and finally they gave her some tylenol. And by the time they got out of the detention center, it was too late for her daughter. They went to the hospital and they couldnt save her. Yeah, listen, i want to ask you i got to get this in before we run out of time. The House OversightCommittee Also asked the embattled labor secretary alex acosta to come and testify later this month about the sweetheart plea deal he gave Jeffrey Epstein when he was a District Attorney in florida. What more are you hoping to hear from acosta . Well, first of all, we want to give an opportunity to the victims of all these sexual assaults who are now young women who were then girls, 13, 14, 15 years old, the opportunity to testify about what this has done to them. Acosta oversaw essentially a double system of justice. While theyre putting lots of people away in jail or prison for marijuana offenses, for example, theyre letting the wealthy and wellconnected Jeffrey Epstein off after having committed dozens of sexual assaults against girls. These are rapes and sexual offenses, and he got a really sweet sweetheart deal where basically he spent half the day in some kind of mellow incaration a incarceration and then he could go do whatever he wanted and that was related to the plea of the least serious offense of the 17yearold girl involved and they decided to describe it as soliciting prostitution, so they basically labelled her a prostitute instead of dealing with the realities of his offenses. After a storm of outrage about this, the prosecution is happening. Better late than never. In new york, but acosta ends up with egg all over his face and hes a terrible poster boy for this double system of justice under this Trump Administration. Were out of time. We look forward to both of these hearings and see how you guys conduct it. Thank you so much, congressman. I appreciate your time. Thanks for having me, don. Well be right back. 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