Know, the n word and making monkey you hear them making monkey noises, calling out the black folks in the crowd saying jews will not replace us. If youre a very fine person, you do what . You leave, you leave. So jake tapper, very brilliant question to Kellyanne Conway, who were the very fine people . She didnt couldnt answer it. Today they went back in the New York Times and said they interviewed this woman at the time who said im about free speech but she wasnt marching with the nazis, she was there to say i think we should have this discussion, these things mean something in the south. Thats debatable. I dont know what the relevant cultural value of something that represents slavery in a country that fought against it. Its a debate you want to have, fine. But theyre conflating it. And i dont know why, don. I know what the suggestion can be, well, he does it because he likes this. I think its something worse. I really do. Because people who you grew up with who judged you that way because of the color of your skin, in general ignorant, raised in a vacuum, somehow tainted, somehow damaged, or maybe just pure out evil. But its usually some kind of combination. But the man who perverts that anger and uses it for advantage, thats a different kind of human being. Thats not about ignorance. Well, you took you took the words right out of my mouth. I was just going to say one of my very best probably my best friend, and my later adult years now is a friend named jamie who lives in georgia, grew up, born and raised in georgia. When i worked at cnn in atlanta we became very good friends. And we would talk about issues of race. Hes this white guy, red hair, you know, we couldnt be anymore different but were really good friends and we talk about the Confederate Flag all the time and he couldnt understand and he said my parents and the people around me taught this meant southern pride and then when i started to educate him and told him what things he should read and explore, he started to realize that that flag wasnt necessarily about southern pride and actually what it meant to other groups of people, and that that flag was being used to fight for really something that was treasonous and something that was reprehensible, which was the enslavement of people who looked like me. In the end, he realized, he said well i cannot condone that if im going to have a friend like you then what has been told to me does not make sense. When you keep do flag, when the streets are filled in protest with africanamericans. When the africanamericans say we want to keep the flag, we want to keep the statues, then you know that its about cultural adaptation and memories of a heritage thats worth preserving. Im telling you, this trump trifecta is real. Youre going to have the economics and competing plans and competing people. But im telling you, abortion, immigration, right wing extremism, they all play to the same persuasion sensibilities in certain voters. Him saying fear. That a newborn child can be swadled and then executed, the president of the United States saying something so dumb, so grossly inaccurate, ive never heard him lie any worse, don, than if he called himself frankie. Well, could be, my grandpa used to call my frankie. What is bigger than this . Hes saying that people want to kill babies for real. And its not true. But i will of course its not true. I will say this before i move onto the show. If you believe in the history of this country, you should read it. If you want to have statues, thats fine. If you want to have the flag, thats fine. Put them in a museum, a museum that can explain correctly the significance of those objects and those monuments. They dont have to be displayed. Im just wondering, and i know this is an extreme example, and ive used it before, robert e. Lee high school, would people want to go to a school that was named hitler high school, would you want a statue of hitler erected anywhere in the United States . Those things mean the same thing to africanamericans as the other things mean to jewish people, jewishamericans. So just think about that, america. Before you say this is history and its our pride and all of that. Fine which but it represents the worst of our country and not the best of our country. And that is the one piece of context people need to remember about what the president was saying around charlottesville. He was siding with the people who want to keep the statues. Where do we end, jefferson, George Washington . Its a meaningful distinction. Its not about having owned slaves, its about when there was a line drawn in the side, about what this country would be about which side you were on. To say washington, jefferson, thats about picking men in the moment in which they lived and what their weaknesses were. Its different than the civil war and the decisions made then. Im telling you, hes touching these buttons for a reason and im not saying hes a bigot, im not saying he holds these things in his heart. He keeps them in his head, and thats dangerous. What a man says, so is he. Swadling a baby and then deciding whether to execute it. Never thought id hear that. Not a president. This is cnn tonight, im don lemon, im in las vegas and this is where theres a new terror plot tonight coming on the heels of the deadly synagogue attack in poway. This is where Memorial Services were held today for lori kaye, a 60yearold woman who died trying to defend the rabbi from her shooter. Listen to this very powerful moment from when oscar stuart, who tried to tackle the gunman when his gun jammed, they led the entire congregation in singing God Bless America, not as an anthem, but as a prayer. God bless america land that i love stand beside her and guide her through the night with a light from above as the members of that congregation are in mourning tonight and with the alleged shooter facing charges of murder and attempted murder, now a 26yearold army veteran is charged with plotting multiple terror attacks here in the los angeles area. Targeting jewish people, police officers, and crowds at the santa monica pier. Well, from the criminal complaint the defendant mark domingo planned and took steps to manufacture and use a weapon of mass destruction in order to commit mass murder on april 23 and 24, 2019 domingo purchased several hundred nails to be used as shrapnel inside an explosive device. The suspect is a former Army Infantry man who was deployed to afghanistan from september of 2012 to january 2013. He was allegedly caught on tape talking about isis and jihad. So make no mistake, the rise of hate in america is tearing this country apart. It is killing americans. Its making us afraid to go to our churches and our synagogues. It is making us afraid, just to walk down the street. And its americans who are killing us, not terrorists from other countries. In the middle of saturdays deadly attack President Trump started his speech with a forceful condemnation of anti semitism. Our entire nation mourns the loss of life, praise for the wounded, and stands in solidarity with the jewish community. We forcefully condemn the evil of anti semitism and hate, which must be defeated. The president was exactly right to say that. He stepped up. He said the right thing. So why, when he was asked today if he thinks White Nationalism is on the rise, why did he refuse to even answer the question . Heres the thing. You cannot condemn hate while simultaneously giving a wink and a nod to those who peddle hate. You cant ignore the threat from White Nationalism like this president did last month after that horrific attack, attacks on muslims at a prayer in new zealand. White nationalism as a rising threat around the world. I dont really. I think its a small group of people that have very, very serious problems. I guess you cant whitewash White Nationalism with a bogus argument that the White Supremacists and neonazis who openly paraded their hate on the streets of charlottesville were protesting the removal of a statue of robert e. Lee who waged war on the United States, a brutal slave owner, who fought for the continued enslavement of millions of africanamericans. Millions of people who looked like me. You said there were very fine people on both sides. Ive answered that question. And if you look at what i said you will see that that question was answered perfectly. And i was talking about people that went because they felt very strongly about the monument to robert e. Lee, a great general, whether you like it or not he was one of the great generals. Ive spoken to many generals here right at the white house. And many people thought of the generals they think he was maybe their favorite general. People were there protesting the taking down of the monument of robert e. Lee. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows, we all heard what went on in charlottesville. There were not very fine people on both sides. Jews will not replace us. Jews will not replace us. Jews will not replace us. You cannot have it both ways. If you condemn hate. I think one of the most important things we can do is use the bully pulpit of the president and call out this hatred by name, condemn it as the president has done and will continue to do anytime Something Like this comes up. Hopefully we dont see another incident like this. Its a horrific and heinous moment. You cant let your campaign try to argue that when you said there were very fine people on both sides in charlottesville that you were talking about people who wanted to preserve a statue. Im going to be very clear here. Charlottesville was not about a statue. It was about hate. Hate on display in america and the world to see. And this i mean, this is amazing. A white house official speaking on the condition of anonymity, telling the Washington Post that the president is committed to combatting White Supremacy and violence in all forms. I want you everybody listen, think about this. Since when do you have to be anonymous to condemn White Supremacy and violence . That seems like something a president would say in an impassioned speech from the oval office out loud, not something that would come from an anonymous source. But for this president its all about politics. Its about dog whistles. And why is the president relitigating charlottesville anyway . Why is he trying so hard to rewrite his own history, with twisted revisionist history of the civil war, robert e. Lee, why is he trying to do that . How many fine people do you know who would go and march with people who are saying those things, who are carrying all of those things, about a civil war . This is supposed to be about a civil war, a war that tore america apart . What the hell are you talking about . Hes doing it because joe biden is hitting him where he lives. That is the truth. Joe biden is evoking the worst moment of the trump presidency. He did it again today in his First OfficialCampaign Event. We saw hate in charlottesville. We saw it again in pittsburgh at the tree of life synagogue, the attack of the deadliest in American History on a jewish community. And were reminded again that we are in a battle, we are in a battle for americas soul. Yes, we are. I really believe that. And we have to restore it. Well, as you know this president cannot help himself because the president s political advisers have been warning him not to take the bait, not to get sucked into a one on one brawl with any of the democratic candidates, especially joe biden whose candidacy seems to unnerve this president. But you heard what biden said there, we are in a battle for americas soul. Right on. We are. The question is will that battle be won by those who are fighting for the best of america, like the congregation singing God Bless America or will it be won by the forces of hate and disinformation and lies . The answer will decide the future of this country. 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Max, start with you, the president called that shooting, the synagogue shooting a hate crime, condemned the attack forcefully but this shooting is part of a larger trend that we have seen that were seeing now and its White Nationalism out in the open. Is he ignoring the bigger picture, max . Hes not just ignoring the bigger picture, don, i think hes contributing to the problem. I mean, the very day before that heinous shooting in california trump was repeating his praise for the charlottesville protesters saying once again that there are very fine people on both sides when we know that the people who are marching were saying the jews will not replace us. Theres nothing fine about that. Even if trump had been right that they were simply exercised about this robert e lee statue, he was a traitor fought to preserve slavery. Theres only one reason why the statues were put up, to support segregation and jim crow. We know what message those statues are sending and thats the message donald trump is supporting and he also echoes a lot of the talking about points that you hear from White Nationalists about how immigrants are invading us and how theyre a major threat and oh, by the way, trump himself calls himself a nationalist. And so we know what hes doing here. Hes basically playing this elaborate game where he condemns actual terrorist attacks, where he condemns anti semitism but he also, wink, wink, nudge, nudge, he also sends signals to the White Nationalists hes really on their side. Thats why i think youve seen such a surge of White Nationalism extremism and anti semitic incidents and anti africanamerican incidents durlg h during his presidency. Peter, i want to bring you in. On one hand the president offers, you know, a wink and a nod to White Nationalists when he thinks it will help him and yet is rightfully horrified when Something Like this happens, at least in what he says afterwards. Is that problematic . Yeah, its problematic. Donald trump is willing to call out anti semitism because he has jews in his co liealition. But what hes not willing to do is recognize that the rise in anti semitism in the United States is simply one symptom of the larger rise in White Nationalism and its inextricably connected to the rise in islamophobia and to the anti latino bigotry. And the latter two, islamophobia and latino bigotry, he actively foe meants those things. White nationalism goes after people he goes after himself. If you look at what the shooter in california said it was similar to what the guy in pittsburgh said, he said one of the reasons he was against jews was he believed jews were bringing in immigrants. This plays exactly into Donald Trumps line where donald trump talks about latinos as rapists, as invaders, as animals, that fuels anti secmitism because these people in pittsburgh and california, they see jews behind it. Its all interconnected. Another question for you, you in a new oped, in the forward, very personal and you write this, you say the trump era has shown that nativism and anti semitism and islamophobia are more deeply rooted in American Culture t