Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20181026 : c

Transcripts For CNNW CNN Tonight With Don Lemon 20181026

This is cnn tonight. The fbi intensifying its search for a suspect or suspects responsible for packages with explosives inside. Were learning that all 10 packages were sent through the u. S. Postal system. Manila envelopes with bubble wrap lining. A forever stamps and all have targeted people or organizations who have been critical of President Trump. The secretary of Homeland Security says at least some of the packages were processed unflorida. The Police Commissioner says all packages are being treated as live devices. Why have none of the pipe bombs detonated . Good eve engning to all of you. At least 10 packages found so far. Now authorities believe several were processed at a mail facility near miami, florida. Frrps so part of this investigation is heavily focussed on florida. Its believed to be where several of the suspicious packages with pipe bombs went through and so what they were trying to figure out right now is whether the perpetrator or perpetrators lives in florida or whether this was just a facility where some of the packages moved through. Right now investigators are trying to figure out who is behind this. The concern is that there could be more pack nls out there. Right now we know of 10. I will say one Law Enforcement official i spoke with today said some of the forensic analysis helped narrow down the leads in terms of the hunt of who was behind this. The investigation is progressesing. A key question in all of this is why the devices did not explode. Whats your read on that . Theres been a lot of discussion on whether theyve been designed to invoke fear or intimitation. What these devices tell us is that some individual took the time to do the research to actually figure out how to make the device that could cause significant harm. Im told these devices could have been catastrophic. Frrts so either way, it doesnt matter whether or not the devuss were actually triggered to explode. What real a matters is this individual was sending a message that they had the ability and potential to make devices that could have been absolutely catastrophic. I think were going to figure out who did this and get to the bottom of it. The biggest concern is this individual could create devices that would be triggered when theyre being handled by just about anyone. How much planning would go einto an operation like this . The bomb making plus sending packages all over the country . This is something where someone wakes up in the morning like an active shooter kags. T case. It had to be well orchestrated how he know wheres exact addressess are. And the courier aspect, in terms of mailing devices, buildabomb and transport it. Maybe a month and six weeks. Unth in that period its likely he talked to people and people will wonder why did i sell Something Like this to someone a couple weeks ago . And the build up may have disclosed some clues. The one question we dont know is the persons background. In other words if its a Law Enforcement background a scientific background. Trrs that would make the creation of devices maybe easier. So part of what theyre looking at is a profile of the person determining how much knowledge they had before hand as they built and constructed these devices. Let me ask you this because weve been told i think a lot about the actual devices but Law Enforcement they dont tell you everything. Ive noticed theyre a lot more tight lipped. I dont know if you saw the press conference earlier. There are two key reasons why at this stage in the investigation. First oall of you want to see a lot of this evidence not out in the public sphere so if and when you find the suspect you can use that information as leverage during an interview. You dont want to get to the point of prosecution where its inadmissible uncourt. So there are reasons why were not learning more about these devices, these pipe bombs as the fbi called them. And theyre walking this fine line of saying this is is what you should look out for and not releasing so much where it could jeopardize the investigation. And were talking an ongoing threat. How do you think the president has handled the bombs being sent to two former president s, secretary of state and so on. . I try not to be overly critical of the president but i think of this idea that theres likely someone with mental instability responsible for this and its not the president , its the person who sent these bombs. And i think we all have to acknowledge it takes a degree of mental instability to destood do Something Like this. What we have to ask is what was the trigger . Every time someone decides to assassinate former president s of the United States or other high level officials, something caused them to do that. We have to ask ourselves whether or not the current rhetoric and unsome cases the violent nature of our rhetoric may have actually been the trigger. You could have someone mentally unstable and theyre responsible for this and its the case that the political rhetoric and environment right now actually may have been the trigger for Something Like this. You actually addressed this false flag there ea at length on twitter today. Please explain the reasons why it could be a legitimate theory and weighed against other possibilities out there. Thank you. Look, of course, a lot of right wing or others are promoting a really dangerous false flagger to they that democrats and even the party itself planned this to make trump look bad and insight antitrumpism. What people need to know is the theory of the case is not known yet. So it is potsable that this was a black flag or political sentiments that aligned with antitrump sentiments. Do i think thats probable . No. To me, as someone who knows something about these cases,ium rsh looking at it saying its more probable than not they have antidemocratic. We dont want investigators to dismiss. Good investigators are looking that totality of the inform augds. They should keep an open mind. So its just a question of probability verses possibility. Of course its possibility. Its a black flag operation. The proponents of that theory are usesing it as a way to suggest were all making this up and these werent real bomb. Thats not true. Someone tried to intimidate or terrorize two former president s of the United States and their families. We recognize information can lead in many directions and to keep an open mind about that but theres a difference between possibility and probability. Thank you all. Appreciate your time. Over a mixed response, the president it decides hes bun treated unfairly and deed. What would it look like. If we listened more . Could the right voice, the right set of words, bring us all just a little closer, get us to open up, even push us further . It could. If we took the time to listen. The most inspiring minds. The most compelling stories. Download audible. And listen for a change. President trump digging in believing hes being unfairly tied to the pipe bomb scare. He has no plan to take response lkt or own up to his own heated political rhetoric which may have creoughted a climate where his critics are attacked. Is the president missing a moment here . I want to bring in douglas brinkly. And author of the truth about trump. I played the other hour about how other president s have handled these moments. Other president s have taken moments luke this or much worse, worked to unify athe country. Has trump failed to fulfill that part of his job as president . Hes completely failed to unify the country around this crisis. This is not harry truman and the buck stops here. As soon as these reports of bombs hit the media, hes been constantly trying to blame everybody else, feeling sorry for himself, trying to scapegoat the media, which is an extraordinary stunt when you think that cnn had the bomb threat and hes trying to turn it back on the media that its their problem. Hes in Campaign Mode right now. He was perhaps feeling secret culpable some of this and these are the people hes been mocking and hes decided to call it an over blown story by the media and saying that were blaming him. Were not blaming donald trump for the incident. Were saying he needs to play a role of educator and Public Information officer. Yet another low eb unhis white house tenure. Here is what the president said hours beforhis first state of the union address. He said i would love to be able to bring back our country into a great form of unity without a major event where people pull together. Thats hard to do but i would luke to do it without that major event because usually that major event is not a good thing. Is it even in him to bring people together . It absolutely is not. I admire douglass optimism and i think hes idealistic when he thinks the president might recognize he has responsibility. But this is a man whos never taken responsibility for a single offense hes ever committed. Its not in his point of view, his reference to ever say im responsible for something and we all know hes the chief promoter of fear, an tasginism. If you still have doubts of his lack of fitness for the office that hold said, i wonder if youve bun paying any attention at all. We have the proof of who he is. This is dan rathers response. Every president i have ever covered spent at least some days acting or talking about being a president for all americans. This president hasnt done that for a nano second. Is this what year seeing now . What happens in a leadership vacuum when the president wont lead and no one is stepping into that void . Absolute la. Wheres paul ryan been . Silent. So few republicans are speaking out and so few sending concern and condolences to people. Its astounding to me that President Trump didnt call barack obama and bill clinton. It still startals me that you wouldnt make the 30 second, the minute phone call, you wouldnt see that would make you look large in the public sphere, to pull this together. Two pred setsers having bombs coming to their home the president acts luke its not that big of a deal and the medias exaggerating it. At time said starting to talk a little that there was the tweet blame thing fake news shs and trying to flip the 180. I know michael knows thats what he does once in a while hell turn a corner. There was one donald trump. But i think hes the entertainer at rallies and i keep waiting for this president ial trump we see it in bits and pieces and then revurerts back to his base scorching, and never bringige together the american people. I dont recall him when i saw it, reaching out to the media, thanking the media for staying on and doing their job or condemning the president s words directly. Trump has divided us, so he cant unite us. He built his political career on divisiveness. Its not in his brand. He has been devoted to destroying trust for his entire life. He doesnt think that reality benefits him. He thinks we should all mistrust each other. So thankful country wont believe the truth if the fbi shares it with us or if theres a perpetrator caught. Some will think theres a paranoid reality they should bed a hering to instead of the truth because trump has destroyed the foundation of trust in our country. He doesnt believe onshared reality so he could sit here and look you in the face and tell you everyone is to blame. Everyone has equal share when he is the prime mover when it come toads dishtrust unour country and the whole enterprise has been to destroy credibility. And he can go to his followers and say no one else counts. Listen to me. And its cultish. Its cultish. Its dangerous and scary. Can he blame. Got it . Got it. Its slippery. Nooooo. Noooo. Nooooo. Yeeeesss. Quick, the quicker picker upper bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent than the leading ordinary brand. Hey look, i got it. Bounty, the quicker picker upper. So this is a time when you might expect a president to call for us to put aside our differences to call for unity. President trump did, at least in his prepared remarks yesterday but his actions and words dont share that response. Its wrong to discuss in terms of the explosive devuss. Trumps critics and cnn. The president thinks hes being linked unfairly to these acts of violence. What do the targets all have in common . Theyve all in verbally attacked by President Trump. But if you want the fake news to finally investigate hillary clinton, well just dont worry. I dont like them either. Good old maxine. Low iq individual. I hear biden wants to take me to the back of a barn. He would be in big trouble. Lets not forget trump has created an environment where incidents like this can happen. Listen to his explust praise ofvuleance. I dont know if ill be doing the fighting myself or other people will. Yeah, get hum out. Try not to hurt him. If you do, ill defend you in court. Ive been going around lately say thing democrats are the party of crime. Id like the punch him in the face. Proof that this president is a divider and chief and uses division as a weapon. So lets bring in the former r pennsylvania congressman. Congressman dent, no one here at cnn has said trump is responsible but there are discussions about whether the rhetoric the president uses has contributed to the tense political environment were living in. What are your thoughts . I certainly say the incendiary and inflammatory comments over the last few years have led to a deg reigation of civil discourse. Of course hes not responsible for the pipe bombs, just as Bernie Sanders wasnt responsible for the baseball. And he has made the comments basically encouraging violence. In limited circumstances but theres a sad state of afaurs. I think part of the job is to speak to the better nature of our angels. He tends to divide more than unite. Its interesting to hear him decry political violence, even though weve all heard him stoke violence at his ral as and interviews. Frrts how can he have it both way snz i dont particularly care for the stoking of rhetoric that its okay to commit violence against anybody. I dont want to hear about body slamming a reporter, punching people in the face. I want to know more about what he says taz relates to us voting to resolve our differences. I agree that until we know who they are, its highly irsponseible for someone to blame President Trump, just as its irsponseable to say its a false flag operation. It would behoove all of us to find those answers out before we then go out adiscuss the motivations of that person. Even if we think it fires up a a crowd, its not good for our discourse. I dont agree with it. It sounds like he does want it both ways. I dont want the president to say attack a reporter. I dont want the president to say punch an enemy in the face or imply taken away secret service detail. I dont like people who go on television and insinuate the president caused this bombing plot and dont like people who claim its a false flag. I think all of that is extremely irresponsible. And anyone in any of those three bucket said should stop. Hillary clinton saw upg you cant be civil with a Political Party that wants to destroy what you stand for. Eric holder saying when they go low, kick them. Is it okay to refer back to the sustained vit reall. Some say its a false equivalent because its on autoplay. Donald trump can say whatever horrible incendiary thing he wants and if anyone on the left ear democrat respond and say anything teaters on the boarder of being too much, then everybody strings up and screams deadly murter. If one person gets to do whatever he wants and the other cant respond. Theyre not saying were not going to engage in violence. We certainly kanlt them out. And democrats were not apy with that response and monica lewinsky. I think democrats, like republicans have differences of opinion on different issues. The difference is the Democratic Party doesnt have a leader and the president whos attacking individuals, attacking people who are different, calling them the worst noms and people whoerant political enemies of his. The fish rauts from the head. Donald trump is the leader of the free world and president of the United States, its incumbent on him to eshow leadership. Let me ask you this. You cannot compare the how much, right . One does it or the other one does it. President trump does almost every single daw. I thin that hes right, keith is right its certainly wrong deserved to be called out. Every day, every daw on autoplay, the president says something awful about the media, a political oopponent, about someone and now seems to want to both ways. Weve got to stop doing this and this morning ewe wake up to a negative tweet. Youre right. All of us may use a metaphor ntzer rr a bit over the top. But when youre a ps are seen policy and uninately he has said things they must comp re. Frrts hes got a responsibility. Hes got to be better when it come toads use of language. His words malter and weve been told time and again that you dont have to take his words literally. Most people do. Thats how most people do is take words literally. We have a lot to discuss. What the former vites President Joe Biden said on the campaign trail just today. Great when yoe a hundred orders come in, a hundred orders come in, but then you realize ive got a hundred orders i have to ship out. Shipstation streamlined that wh the order data, the weights of , everything is seamlessly put into shipstation, so when we print the shipping ll everythings pretty much done. Its so much easier so now, were ready, bring on t. Shipstation. The number one ch of online sellers. Go to shipstation. Com tv and get two months free. Former vice President Joe Biden weighing in on the heated and Divisive Political discourse in the country. So congressman dent, this is what the former Vice President said while campaigning in upstate new york today. Weve got to turn off this hate machine. Weve got to come together. People want us to be more civil. People want us to choose hope over hate. They want us to choose for real. Its gutteral. And words matter. Words matter. So what can charley, what can the president do or say to deescalate some of the Political Tension . I think what the former Vice President said was largely correct. People do want a more civil discourse. I can tell you there were people who would come up to me and give me an earful because i was talking in too measured a way. Youre not angry

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