Unfounded and outrageous allegations wild outbursts on the internet and television while a member of this administration. Cnn contributor walter shab who resigned from the department of ethics last year. President trump drew a direct connection between the russia investigation and his security clearance decision. I call it the rigged witch hunt, it is a sham, and shes people let it i think its something that had to be done. Doesnt that correct what we heard from Sarah Sanders today . If does. To say i consulted with my intelligence community, the cia who holds brennens clearance and they have serious concerns about him continuing to access this information. Instead, he gave an interview to the press and said, this is about my hurt feelings, in doing so, this neuters the Intelligence Committee a key function is to determine who needs clearance he took that away from them and is now judge, jury and xecutioner. This is what Sarah Sanders initially said, watch this . Mr. Brennen has recently leveraged his status with access to highly Sensitive Information to make a series of unfounded and outrageous allegations. Mr. Brennens line and recent conduct characterized by increasingly frenzied commentary is consistent to the nations most widely held positions. It is a sham and these people led it, so i think its something that had to be done. Compare what were hearing from the president tonight to what Sarah Sanders said today. Theyre both bad, right . Neither option is a good one. Theyre trying to silence critics, according to Sarah Sanders who admits their criticism is the deciding factor. That may not mean a lot to these guys, theres a lot of former government officials who need their clearances with government contractors. Knowing they could lose them is going to chill their free speech, the president s other alternative explanation that hes trying to retaliate against people for participating in the mueller investigation, and discredit them. So that their testimony against him wont be believed. Thats shocking. Thats just an effort to interfere with holding him accountable to the law. Yeah, tonight the president is tweeting. Hes hard at work watching the man who is in his head, karl rove. He said this is the president tweeting this, he said, id strip the whole bunch of them, theyre all corrupt. Theyve all abused their power, theyve all betrayed the american people, they tried to steal and influence an election in the United States. Then he has sean hannity there. If thats the metric for determining who has the security clearance or the ability to serve in government, the entire white house would be empty at this point. People that have a security clearance get it not as a reward for good behavior, but because theyre there to serve their country and the president is applying a double standard to those who say nice things about. This is about hurt feelings, not about any other information than that. Hes watching sean hannity, getting upset and tweeting. Is that the basis for determining security clearance access . Not since nixon has a president pursue d such a corrut purpose. His purpose is to silence dissent. Will the president s actions today silence his critics . I think it may silence people who are dependent on security clearances for their post government employment. Its not going to silence me or brennen. Hopefully it wont swlins very many at all. The irony of his accusations are he matches the exact characteristics that hes accusing people of the bottom line is the heart of the ethics and Government Program is to not misuse your Governmental Authority we all thought we could trust the president of the United States to put the people first and not use use Governmental Authority for petty vengeance on individuals that would dare to criticize him in the a free country. American voters must not shrug off or be distracted from the terrible behaviors of this president who lies to the people every day. Is a massage ingist and always puts his interests above those of the United States of america. I dont think the president is going to like that response. He will say its evidence of a bias he sees against him. The good news for comey, i dont think the president could dislike him any more than he did. I dont know that this will hurt him worst. He shouldnt be misusing Governmental Authority to do these kinds of things, the security clearance process has always been something that government officials treat as near to sacred, because it is the thing that protects our National Security information. Look at the fact that Michael Flynn is not on that list of people hes going after. Thats very troubling. It means that National Security is not the decider. What do you make of the timing of this, because it was this action was even taken against brennen. It wasnt taken against any other people on the list so far, james clapper, james comey, michael hayden, sally yates, lisa page or peter struck, bruce orr. Any time this happened it would have been a giant snub to the intelligence community. The timing seems coincidental. It seems like right in the middle of this horrible criticism by omarosa, this just happens to come out today from the podium. Im not a conspiracy theorist, but it seems coincidental dont you think . We didnt just fall off the turnip truck, although they think we did. Do you think this is a white house in crisis . Yes, absolutely. You had omarosa, john kelly taking her in there to ask her to tell her shes being fired. Taking her into the skiff, presumably because he didnt want to be reported. You have a white house ethics official who we just discovered was the one forcing people to sign the president s nondisclosure agreements, the entire thing is spiraling out of control. 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Power of options based on your budget and well make heaven a place on earth yeah oh, my angels ooh, heaven is a place on earth [ sobs quietly ] former white house aid omarosa dropped a bomb that she heard him using the n word on the apprentice. The shows creator called him to tell him there were no such tapes 37 a producer on the apprentice tweeted this. He said, as a producer on seasons one and two of the apprentice, i assure you when it comes to the trump tapes there are far worse. Just two days ago, he doesnt have the tapes. And wont comments on whether hes heard them. Kelly mcevers has interviewed bill pruitt. And also david swerdly. Kelly. You interviewed bill pruitt for npr back in 2017. I want to listen to what bill told you about the content of the tapes and then well talk. Was it just about women . Very much a racist issue . It was about race . Yes. About africanamericans, jewish people, all of the above . When you heard these things theres the audible gasp that is quickly followed by a cough and then you just sort of carry on. So he says he heard awful stuff but does he know if tapes actually exist . He has a strong feeling that they do. He was a producer on the show for seasons one and two, by the way, im not bill pruitts spokesperson, but i am the person who happened to talk to him about all of this. They rolled constantly. They werent always taping with a camera, but they were rolling audio constantly. A lot of conversations were conversations about who to fire, who not to fire. Its conversations about contestants on the show. The impression that i got was that there was one there were two contestants who you mentioned before, who just recently left the white house and a contestant named Kwame Jackson. He was facing off against a man named bill ransick, what i was told is that during that final deliberation is when donald trump said things about Kwame Jackson. Things that bill pruitt said were offensive. When you interviewed pruitt, did you contact the white house after and if you did, what did they say . We did, this was a series of episodes we did for a pod cast. It was about kwame. Do you know did he tell you what was allegedly said about kwame . Bill pruitt like many people who worked on the show, signed a nondisclosure agreement. He was not going to go into a lot of detail about what he said, he said it was racist. So yes, once we had this episode together. How he built golf courses. What he had done coming into government office. Of course we were going to talk about the tapes, right . If youre going to talk about the apren dis, youre going to talk about the tapes. We did like we always do, we reached out to the white house for comment. And we listed some of the Different Things that were said in the pods cast episode. We said, look, we had a conversation with bill pruitt about what was said on the set. We very quickly, and unusually for this episode got a phone call back from someone named hope. Presumably it was hope hicks. Someone who didnt call us about previous or episodes after that. Asked do you want to talk about the tapes, asked whether we had tapes. And we said we didnt have any tapes to play, we wanted comments about what bill pruitt had said. And then it was pretty quickly, she said, all right, fine, a deputy will get in touch, and then a deputy got in touch and said, these are the same recycled allegations and lies from the past. Got it. There was some interest. Okay. In whether or not we had the tapes. David, i want to bring you into the conversation. Thanks for sitting by and listening to this. Do you think pruitts claims are credible . Thats great reporting by kelly. I have no reason to doubt what pruitt said there, i also dont blame him for wanting to go further than he did in that interview. I think it would be despicable if, in fact, then donald trump, now President Trump said those things about any person, any africanamerican, including Kwame Jackson who i know. We have several mutual friends. As a journalist, don i do think theres some value to us eventually getting to the bottom of this, to find out whether or not these tapes exist, and whether or not what is alleged to be on those tapes is true, as a black man, i really dont care that much, don, at this point. We already have this litany of statements from the president that shows his racial attitudes, birtherism, calling congresswoman waters a low i. Q. Person, shole countries, calling mexican immigrants rapists, you go on and on. Haiti, aids. Jews are good with money, in gue jest. This is how he thinks hes demonstrated it time and time again. For the purposes of this conversation, even from the white house podium, the conversation about these recordings, is it necessarily about whether the president made these comments, but if its on tape. You understand what im saying, mark burnett called me and said that there are no such tapes. Not that it didnt like he needs mark burnett to tell him what he said on tape. Clearly hes in his mind, this is a way of saying, look, someone else is vouching for me, even though hes vouching for mark burnett, vouching for him, via a tweet, and not being talking directly to the american people. And you can see the limits of this, yesterday in the press briefing when the press secretary said she couldnt guarantee these tapes didnt exist. It doesnt mean they do exist. It means that even she at this point is not willing to go that far out, walk the blank, that far out and say, no, of course not, President Donald Trump would never say anything like that he may or may not have said these things, hes said enough other things its believable at this point that this might have happened. And that is where this sort of shame and scandal in this is, that were talking about this, about the president of the United States. That is a sad state of affairs, everything you just laid out there, kelly, you know, its not that infrequently that stuff gets leaked from tv shows, given the extreme interest of this tape, why do you think they havent come out yet if they exist . Its really interesting. Mark burnett, technically he owns it, donald trump was an executive producer of the show, i would think that means he owns this material as well. Mgm . Yeah, mgm. Mark burnett still a powerful person in hollywood, if youre a bro deucer on the show and you somehow squirrelled away some copy of something that you didnt necessarily own. Theres a disincentive to be putting that stuff out in the world, i mean, first of all, theres the legal documents that you signed saying you wouldnt do Something Like that, theres also, you want to work in this town, right . These are people you dont necessarily want to cross. Youve maybe gone on to work for somebody else, you dont want your boss to think youre going to do Something Like that to them. Theres not a ton of incentive if someone has squirrelled away some pirated copy of something, i agree to some extent that maybe it does or doesnt matter whether or not anyone ever hears the tape, i think for some people its important to know, to have things on the record, they believe a certain thing about a president , and they want to actually have documentation of it. Should we all be spending so much time talking about who has them, where are they . I dont know about that. If they even exist, right . The question should be put to mark burnett also, i think, you know, something we tried to do, and were unable to get a comment from him. We did too, we didnt hear back from him about either request. I think youre right, people would like to know, for the record, but i get your point david, that everything he said so far just leads people to believe that its possible. And maybe probable. Thank you very much. Thanks, don. When we come back, omarosa has a message for the black community. She came up short in representing people of color in the trump white house. Shes trying to reach out to that community now but is it too little too late . thomas nice choices you see, now verizon lets you mix and match your family unlimited plans like you mix and match your flavors. So you get what you want, without paying for things you dont. Number 6. I know. 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