To win, would you run . Well, in that case i may. If they had no one. I believe there are some people out there. I hope. Lets see first. Lets see first. We also talked about living while black and how Money And Fame Dont Insulate you from racism. Do you think its harder now or always been there and were just seeing it because of cell phones. No. I think its always been there. I think the president in charge now has given people they dont care now, they throw it to your face now. Lebron also gave me an exclusive tour of his brand new, i promise school, a Joint Venture with the school. And the lebron james foundation. Tuition and transportation is free for for every student who live morse
than 2 miles away. Every student gets breakfast, lunch and snacks. College tuition is guaranteed for everyone who graduates. A food pantry for families. Parents can get their gets and job placement services. And because how important a bicycle was for lebron, every in escaping dangerous parts of his neighborhood. Every student will receive a bicycle and helmet. It is an ambitious project with an even more ambitious future. Take a look at our tour. This is the coolest thing. Tell me about these shoes. You guys are going to auction these off, right . Its 114 game worn shoes i wore in an nba game. Each shoe is being auctioned off and all the proceeds going to the foundation. I didnt know we were going to do this wall like this. This is a surprise for me. I knew the shoes would be auctioned off. I love this right here. They come to the front door and its like you can walk in my shoes, in my footsteps. You have worn all these . Ive worn all these shoes in a game. They get to keep one shoe and their name goes up there . Their name goes right above each shoe. When you see this, what do you think . Its still so surreal. Its hard to be like, this is my school. I never envisioned having a school. I envisioned, you know, being in the community, giving back to my community in some way but i never thought that it would turn into a school, but this is above and beyond. You had this growing up, what do you think . If you had this . Youre successful but i think early on i would have been able to start my path earlier in my life and start it a little bit later. But i dont even know if i would have this school if i didnt have the trials and tribulations i had when i was a kid and the upbringing that i had. It let me know when i was younger if i ever had the means or became successful or anything
i want to be able to give back. Do you ever like look around and get down and depressed . I know you said you always want to be positive with dr. King and those guys when you see whats happening in the country, oh, man, were going backwards . Absolutely. Thats human nature. No way you can look at certain things and not feel like, why are we not pushing forward. For me, as one of the leaders of america or one of the leaders of my community, its my responsibility to stay as positive as i can and let people know we can go further and up and not down even though we feel like were going backwards and going back to places of slavery or jim crow and things of that nature you want to continue to move forward is important for all of us. Do you think we can get back from this craziness going on . I think so. Its not going to be today, not tomorrow, next month. It will be an ongoing thing. It might be after you and me are well gone but if we can look at the positive things we can figure it out. I see president james might be look whos in here. Did you see those faces . Do you guys know who this is . Yeah. Who is that . Lebron james. Come say hi. Oh, my gosh whats up . Give me five, give me five. Whats up . How yall doing . Are those my shoes . Yeah. You made my shoe, how you doing . Nice to meet you. Whats up. How you doing . Whats up, everybody. I want your autograph. How youre doing . Those are nice. I will have to put those on the wall. Did you see the tennis shoes on the wall. We have to make shows shoes and put them on the wall. What size shoe are you . Im a 9, my shoe is smaller than you. Size 6 . 5 . Do you love this guy . Yes. You think hes awesome . Do you watch him play . Yeah. Yeah . There you go. This is your first day, right . Are you guys excited . Youre at lebron james school. You did . I saw it on the video, my dad you saw it on the radio . You heard it on the radio. Did you know you were going to meet him, though . Did you think you were going to meet him . Now, you did. What does this do when you see this . This is what its all about. Whatever these guys want, man, whatever these guys want. One person knows me, lebron. She said, are you the news guy . I dont know. I like them all. These are cool. These are the foundation shoes,
the i promise shoes right there. You made those . I made those, yes. You made this one . All those. Thank you, brother. You guys go ahead and get back to school now. Thank you, guys. Thank you. You guys are awesome. Look at you. A loss for words. Oh, boy, sorry about that. Hes really generous with his time. He was really generous. Thank you very much for that amazing tour and those kids. Im bringing in cnn political commentators. I didnt think that would hit me like that. I saw the kids and i was so excited. I was thinking dealing with this whole race thing, those kids dont care what color he is. They just love him and in his school. He is lebron james. Can we learn from all that . Isnt that a lesson for all of us . It goes without saying. Presidency and he can set the tone. Tone does come from the top. It makes it more incumbent on us, all of us in the Public Sphere and thats all of us, all have a Public Sphere. Like michelle obama, when they go low, we go high. That gives us responsibility to do that. And stand up and push back. We dont have to suck come to that. Youre appealing to our better angels. What i said before, isnt there a lesson in it for all of us, appealing to our better angels. Im really wondering, i hope youre right. Does it work that way in this day and age when everybody else seems to be playing by the rules except one person or a few people because the president doesnt play by the rules. These athletes or celebrities have individual agency. It is important for everyone to exercise their individual agency. What can i do here locally in my community that will make a
i was struck by his tone. He could have sounded angry. He sounded to me really sad and concerned. Sad and concerned i think is what defines all of us. Were worried about whats happening to our country under this president and hes clearly worried about it and realizing because he is lebron james he has a voice that will be heard. When he was giving you a tour of the school he used several times the word leader and asking what does leadership look like . Leadership is constructive and gives back. There is a certain human being in the white house that could learn a lot what he is saying and learn about leadership. And during the interview, there was no, excuse me, excuse me to jump in. If i said something and interrupted him he kept his train of thought. He knew what he wanted to talk about. Talked about the school and he said, yes. It goes beyond the school and kept going back to that. Quite frankly, i have to be honest, i was worried his pr
A recap of the days news. That is how active people were. They were at the height of their popularity and they did that. Right. Sidney pointier and ozzie davis, you name a celebrity, they were on board. They did it and they could have lost everything. Yep, certainly did. More than just twitter doing a hashtag or outraged on twitter. Or protesting. All those things are important but there has to be more action behind it. Stick around, everyone, when we come back, what could the mother of a trump tell all. Bob woodwards new book on the Trump Administration based on hundreds of hours of interviews with insiders. I got that, maybe you didnt. Well explain when we come back. Back with me, its called fear, based on the 2016 interview of trump by woodward and robert costa where trump says, real power is, i dont even want to use the word here, fear. That is a pretty dark statement, frank. Should he be worried how he comes across . Trump . He will start worrying . Is he going to worry about this book . I dont think he will worry that much because he spent his entire presidency telling his supporters anything they hear about him they dont like is fake and made up. If its interviews with people not consistently named it will be a he saidthey said thing. As i also heard there are documents and things in trumps own handwriting, thats a lot harder to say thats made up and to get away from. Whats actually in this book matters so much because donald
trump has done such a thorough job telling people his critics is making things up. You remember how he reacted to fire and fury, you think it will be the same thing . Ive given up to engage on how i think he will react on things like this and people who follow him off the ledge. I dont know how theyre reacting to it or processing things like this. If its just falling into the tribalism were used to, people who hate him love this sort of thing and people who love him discount it completely, then i dont know where it takes us on the political spectrum, if it matters in that way. It may be good juice, were in this and cover this all the time and you talk about it all the time, it will be good for us, it will be fun to read. Fire and fury i think it has to do with what youre going to say, its just weeks before the midterm
but wondering if republicans should be worried about it. Sorry. Most things with trump end up fallen his favor, his base loves it. Heres the thing. First of all, the definition of fear comes because the question is how you derive power. The answer is through fear, right . This is a fundamentally different and deeply starkly contrasting philosophical difference in leadership than what we were talking about in the last segment. His supporters will excuse this but we as americans and Everybody Needs to think through how the president of the united jits United States thinks his power is derived from fear. Rather than citizenry actively bestowing on him the right and privilege to lead. We live in a Representative Democracy that has certain
values and should be reflective of that. It explain as lot psychologically. This is a man who compliments putin and dictators who Murder Millions or jail millions of their civilians without fair trials, im looking at you china and north korea and russia. Duarte of the philippines. It tells us a lot about how the president if you didnt already know and paying attention cares and thinks about authoritarians and admires them while having much less respect for leaders of democracies and our allies around the world. Its also him prioritizing emotional responses over intellectual ones. We often dont talk about that enough that hes not an intellectual person. All emotion. Because he doesnt have that, falls back on the emotional part, understands it and knows how to work that system rather than cerebral system. Not just emotions but negative emotions. Which brings us back to the books title. We have gone from a president if you associated one noun with him
it was hope to a president who now has a bob woodward book about him titled i think hugely appropriately fear. Hope to fear. Says it all. The president tweeted about the July 20th Meeting he had with salzburger and salzburger urged the president to stop attacking the media and he tweeted they spend much time talking about the vast amounts of Fake News Being put out by the media and how the fake news has morphed into a phrase enemy of the people, sad. He has his definition of what fake news is, wrong, right . The question is, i mean, why do this . It was an off the record meeting, right . He puts it on the record by doing this. Hes the one who started calling people the enemy, the press the enemy of the people and hes the one that twisted the definition of fake news. Why is he now doing this . When i read that tweet, who knows donald trump is not much of a wordsmith so reading
tone into a cluster of donald trump words is a very dangerous game, i thought that tweet had a sort of proud tone to it. Ive invented these terms, fake news and enemy of the people, by god the chief representatives of the new yorkers came in and we got to talk about my vocabulary. Left out of that tweet is what they were talking object, our representatives, charles and i work for the times, you created a Climate Journalists are in danger and have to worry about doing their jobs and there are Security Guards. Fascinating because if you read our publishers account of the meeting only after donald trump had broken the off the record agreement, they said mr. President , you have to recognize there are now Security Guards outside Newspaper Stations where there werent before rather than him saying its terrible to here, oh, they werent there already . Like a childs fascination he thinks weve been living in this climate a long time. No, President Trump, you created this climate of fear. You created this climate. There werent Security Guards when you walk into the building and werent Security Guards as there are now in most operations on every floor or journalists who have private Security Guards now because of this president. I am one of them. I speak the truth here. You created this climate. Its a power trip. He wanted to say, i summoned them to the white house, they came, and i told them all the things i dont like about them and here is the evidence of it. It was a power trip. He put it on the record because he wanted everybody to know he had asked them to come and they had come. Do you remember after the election, he summoned all the journalists and anchors to trump tower. I was one of them. I kept sleeping. Im not getting up and doing this, i know exactly what he wants to do, get us there and berate us and call us fake news. A lot of people went, i dont know why, i said, no, and i kept sleeping. I agree with lebron james, do
you really want to talk to someone who will use you as a prop unless no people are smart enough to know when someone is using you as a prop. You know when someone theres a possibility someone may get something out of having a conversation with you. This president did. He has never demonstrated an ounce of contrition about anything. That means you cannot trust that. I can you hold until after the break . Seriously. When they go low we go high, thats what im going to say. Well be right back. I mean, to answer, lebron james says he wont sit across the table with donald trump. If anybody will have influence over donald trump unless they have a nuclear arsenal, its lebron james. People with wealth and celebrity and fame and that is the person that will have more influence over the president , even if its momentary. Beyond that its the symbolism, the coarseness of our rhetoric that we can tune out people we disagree with, we dont engage and no good will assumption for the people we disagree with. I think its a better tone for lebron to say we get along because your intentions are good. We could have a real debate on the issues. This is not what this man is doing, right . You cant talk about human beings the way this person has and never take it back and never apologize for it and expect me to treat the person whos Devaluing Human Beings with humanity. I cant do that. I dont know what that means or how that operates. There is a difference between sitting down as a journalist, i think, interviewing him and challenging him with questions than going to have a conversation like that because hes going to use you, he will use lebron james. It can be private. You dont have to know about it. He will tweet about it. [ laughter ] this is dilemma of this presidency, there are a lot of people that want to continue to show the office of the presidency respect because they feel thats important for tradition for the future yet this is a president showing the office no respect. How do you then relate to him in way that is respectful of the country bill clinton, they literally said the same thing about bill clinton. Bill clinton had many many flaws. Relatively speaking its unfair to say its the same with bill clinton. Im not likening it, not applestoapples, but literally republicans said the same thing. I hate to cut you guys off. Less than 100 days before the midterms and biden and obama are having lunch in a bakery in d. C. What are you suggesting . Im asking you what is going on . Is there something more . Theyre reminding voters of a different day. Also, joe biden is running for president. Thank you. Do you think hes running . That is a staged viral video to announce your president ial intentions if ive ever seen one. Its a visual thats a lot of carbs. Joe is a nice guy, however, i would love for the democrats to have a new crop of candidates. This idea of the whole leadership being a whole different generation than where the energy is is so out of sorts and problematic. I agree with you. Just a question. You have to pick the person who can beat donald trump. Maybe people think hes the best person. What anybody thinks at this early stage doesnt matter. It wont be who we think it is. Someone will emerge who will be the candidate. That person will do maybe they will win whatever they will do their best. Its all about juxtaposition. All about how much contrast i love it when you guys stop by. Next time youre paying for dinner. Wait, no food here. Youre paying for drinks. You got it. Thank you. When we come back, President Trump threatening to shut down the government if his border wall isnt funded. Is there a Battle Brewing within the president s own party . What do harvard graduates know about cognitive performance . As youd probably guess, a lot. Thats why a new brain Health Supplement called forebrain from the harvardeducated experts at force factor is flying off the shelves at gnc. Forebrains key ingredients have been clinically shown to help enhance sharpness and clarity, improve memory, and promote learning ability. And now every man and woman in america can claim a complimentary bottle. Just use your smartphone to text
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for negotiation, not a red line. In my view, this is another way for him to be firm on something that got him into the white house. You think its a good negotiating tactic . It certainly gets the attention of those in congress. They dont want a shutdown now or ever and they certainly dont want one leading into midterm elections because they understand how difficult that will be for republicans. Talking to many members of congress this evening since he made this announcement, they view this as a wakeup call. They need to get together on this. 70 of americans do feel we need to provide protections for dreamers. That beans daca. We need to incorporate daca into this conversation and also as the president said all those things mike talked about, ending the migration, visa lottery and protection for dreamers and funding that wall these are things the president is firm on and will make that front and center . Congressman, go, what do you think . Three months out, this is a
message reset by a president suffering from historically unpopular numbers. The tax bill is not working, facing questions by mueller. Did not get obamacare repealed. He has changed Macroeconomic Policy Republicans have believed in for decades, this is a message reset for something that purely works with republicans. The other element is donald trump is very selfish, he is willing to throw his own party, the party he hijacked to the wolves to protect his own popularity numbers. The shutdown is terrible for republicans. Ive been through 20 years through shutdowns, president s win. Usually its a divided government. This is a republican president and republican congress. Donald trump is willing to throw Congressional Republicans into the lions den to protect popular numbers going into the last 90 days . More when we come back on the border wall. When i received the diagnoses, i knew at that exact moment. Im beating this. My main focus was to find a team of doctors. Its not just picking a surgeon, its picking the care team and feeling secure in where you are. Visit cancercenter. Com breast
you may choose any doctor that accepts medicare patients. You can even visit a specialist. With this type of plan there are no networks or referrals needed. Also, a Medicare Supplement plan. Goes with you when you travel anywhere in the u. S. Call today for a free guide. Last cycle, it was the threat of syrian refugees. And we demonized middle east refugees who were fleeing for their lives. If you look at the data, it was actually the lowest crime rate of a population in the United States was the Refugee Population from the middle east. Now, they are demonizing Central American families who are trying to save their families from crime and poverty and get their kids to a better life and were separating them at the border and demonizing them. We can have a meritbased system, and certainly we should reform Legal Immigration, but what this president has done is finally given permission to speak to these very dark tones of race and nationality and theres no getting past that in the Trump Administration. Mike, the man in that clip, i forget his name, waters, could have picked any country, for example, there, but he picked an african nation. What does that say . Well, i cant speak for jesse waters. I think thats unfortunate and he shouldnt do that. What the policy is saying, we shouldnt have a via lottery, which just randomly selects people from around the world and allows them into the country, regardless of need or merit or anything else, and actually what the policy suggests is, those immigration numbers wont go away, theyd be added to the people that are in line to speed up the people that are legally trying to enter. It is setting an example through policy to say, not a random system that was created in the 70s, but a system of people that are trying to enter the country legally that are waiting should be rewarded for going through the process the right way, because we have a country of laws and we want to reward the people that do it the right way. I dont know why you would use that particular example and he certainly should be more eloquent in describing what i think is a great policy, and like i said, polls over 60 . Alice, to be honest, doesnt it sound like hes saying what the president said when he said,
why cant we have more people from countries like norway instead of i think that was not an appropriate comment whatsoever and thats not unusual for him. Thats just how he is, but i think to mikes point, and i think the focus should be more on what this meritbased system is about, and it is about not looking at where a person, the geography of a person, but their desire and need to come to this country under legal means, assimilate into our country, learn our language, have a job, become educated we would do that if we wanted to hire someone for a job. We shouldnt have any different standards for people that want to come into this country. Thats the focus and the priority for a meritbased system. A meritbased system similar to canada, by the way. Thats their system. I understand, but not everyone who is coming into this country, you know, and a lot of your ancestors, i would think,
were not not to disparage you, and immigration is not like a job application, its not like you are picking people for college, to go to work for a fortune 500 company. I dont think, you know, income and educational level and all that is that something we really want to put as part of our Immigration System . Congressman . No, so, look i disagree and i think theres a middle ground between meritbased and creating a diverse Legal Immigration system. But there is an incredible legal distinction here that republics ignore and half the caucus doesnt understand, which is the difference between Legal Immigration, those seeking to immigrate here and those seeking refugee status. What has happened under the Trump Administration is, we have victimized refugees. Those that are looking to save their own lives and their families lives. We have conflated them with a group of people who are looking to simply immigrate to the United States like they may want to immigrate to any other nation
in the world. That is where trump has failed to lead. Our policy victimizing them by tricking them into policy supported by republicans. We have ports of entry. I got to go. But you know what, we should look at people who are mike, turn away a family at the border. You turn away that family at the border, because i wish, if i was a father in central america, i had the courage to do what these parents do to get their parents to the United States. Youre willing to turn them away. David, the policy encourages them to do that. Im sorry about that, were into the next show. But we should look at people who come in and stay overstay their visas. Thats a big immigration problem, but people dont want to talk about it. They just want to talk about people coming across the border because that creates fear and drives people to the polls, but take a look at that if you want some factchecking. Good night
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