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with the potus. there was no sleeping hehe. sorry. sorry. the entire panel is here. i'll introduce them in a moment. and offense just a goofy reality tv star but i digress. people care that he lied about it. had me bullied broke laws to cover up, et cetera and ps, i'm not going anywhere xoxoxo. this president may have met his match in stormy daniels. but there is the former playboy model karen mcdougal says she had of an affair about the same time as stormy daniels. she sold her story to the publication which killed the story. mcdougal wants out of the agreement so she can speak freely. there is the "apprentice" contestant, summer zervos. she says trump groped her. a judge is refusing to dismiss her lawsuit against him. even for a president who is no stranger to depositions and lawsuits this is alt i want to bring in steve cortez, joan walsh and legal analyst, riva martin. the a former federal prosecutor from the southern district of no new york. you have to admit it's a lot, steve. >> yes, it's a lot. i mentioned to you before we got on the air. >> you're the one who started laughing about the tweet. >> i looked. >> put it all up and you're the trump supporter. >> i looked forward to the day. i don't know if my mother is still up, a daily mask hour but she is tired of me talking about pornography on air. i look forward to the day i stop talking about it. but let's be honest. this is important. the american people knew that donald trump had to put it nicely a colorful past. that was not hidden from them. the allegations were public. the allegations of misconduct by the way, not even just of extracurricular activities but of malfeasance. >> he denied it. >> he defied them. and they decided they were either untrue or irrelevant some combination of two. >> i know where you're going. i know where you're going. but what if they knew they were true because now the president is out on david dennison, ak a donald trump is now saying he doesn't want her to talk, which is -- don't you think that's a tacit admission. he doesn't want other people to talk. they didn't know about the non-disclosure agreement and the $130,000 pay off may not have known about the $150,000 payoff from the other lady. if they knew that don't you think some may have made a different choice or thought differently of the candidate. >> i can't speak in hypotheticals. >> i cover this every night we didn't know about all this. >> what they knew was the "access hollywood" tape. >> and you're right about the past. >> that was about as damning as you could produce. if i tried to concoct something to destroy a presidential campaign it would be that tape. the fact is that people consumed that tape. they -- they considered it and decided it wasn't relevant to the job he would do as president. and by the way, he is doing a magnificent job the economy is booming. economy is booming. >> thanks obama. >> thanks obama. >> come on. look. people knew something. they didn't know everything we know. he also lost by 38 million votes. >> he didn't lose. he. >> he lost the popular vote. >> that's not how we decide. >> he lost the popular vote. >> he is the president. >> we're not here to talk about cambridge analytica but we learn every day robert mueller is learning new things. we are learning new things. this is a mess. i think if the american people knew what we know no. summer zervos we have a great legal expert so i don't have to get into it. i think that's the most important thing that happened. she gets to say you defamed me and i can prove it because i'm telling the truth you groped me. >> arivva if i don't let you on because jumping off the set. >> what do you want to say john i know you want to get in. >> well, you know the thing about the complaints is the fact that he lies and then he goes to great efforts despite my colleague here who thinks everybody knew. well, trump apparently didn't believe everybody knew and were prepared to discount his marauding activities. but the thing that's interesting about zervos matter is she was involuntary, a victim. he said i didn't know any of these women. and she was on "the apprentice." he fired her, assigned her on "apprentice" and says he doesn't know any of the women. and that was one of her complaints. and it's why the complaint was sustained in the court. and what did our boy donnie try to do, such a romancer as to say we should lay in bed and watch the telly telly is a line that works for him sometimes. he went about this by sort of capturing her when he had something she wanted and needed. he fits in the me too movement. but the lies are the critical aspect of what we are finding out about trump. you know, he tries to conceal from the voters what one of the guests doesn't think is relevant. >> it's not what i think is relevant. >> i pays her money. $30,000 to the agent cozbloon do you think he'll be deposed in the sommer suit. >> with three lawsuits involving donald trump, two porn stars and this ex-"apprentice" star absolutely there is going to be a deposition and subpoenas. i want to address something steve said about the american people knowing. we did not know about this the hush agreement, this nda. and in this me too movement, in this time of times up, i think women database, the 54% of white women voting for donald trump perhaps would have had a different analysis of him as the president had they known in this moment that not only did he have the affairs, which apparently he is going to great lengths to deny, but that he went to great lengths to keep the women quiet. >> right after his son was born and not long after he got married. >> right after he had a baby and there are two women saying they're having the same. >> do you think those women believed that he was mother theresa, francis of assisi. >> it isn't about those women thinks he is a saint. it's something about empowered women recognizing something wrong with an a man that has an affair with two women that has a child. >> home with a baby. >> using the legal process to prevent the women from talking about the affairs, calls the women liars, denies knowing them, having any relationship with them. i think that's substantial and i think women would have made a different choice had the information got out. and apparently michael cohen and trump team thought that or there wouldn't be $130,000 settlement and there wouldn't be all of the legal cases to prevent this woman from saying but donald trump says it didn't happen. >> i agree michael cohen thought that that don't mean the president thought that. there was not a shred of evidence that the president knew about this. >> who is only person benefitting. >> why did he make himself a party to a lawsuit. >> he didn't -- >> he is a party to a lawsuit that he did not have to get involved he made himself a party to a lawsuit. he didn't have to get involved. >> exactly why did he make himself a party to the arbitration? his name is on that document. >> steve. >> if he wasn't involved in the original agreement then why did he want an arbitration decision? i mean, steve, come on. >> that's a lawsuit. >> do you really think -- do you really think -- be honest, do you really think didn't know that michael cohen was paying this money to him. >> i do not. >> you think he didn't know. >> you don't believe or you do believe. >> you can laugh at me. >> sell that man a bridge. >> i don't think he knew. because the american people had already made it clear that this was not relevant to the process of him becoming president. >> what does it have to do with michael cohen. >> but again to joan's question, if it wasn't relevant, then why do an nda and pay her $130,000? >> because apparently -- that's a question to ask owen. i don't speak for him. and he is not the president of the united states. donald trump is. that's the man who. >> that's the question why join the arbitration. >> why join the arbitration. >> and why not take issue with the lawyer that settles a case without your knowledge? you are representing a lawyer representing him. you can't negotiate a stlm for me as a client without my knowledge in my. that's an incredible breach of ethics. >> he has -- i am not here to answer for him. >> here is the -- i think. >> steve, you went off and paid a lawsuit for me and you -- that means you're committing me to something you're committing me to the circumstances that are -- of that nda -- of that doctorate. maybe i don't want to be a party to the kr contract. if it came out that you paid that money and you signed this contract for me and i wasn't guilty i would say, i had nothing to do with this, this thing doesn't stand let her talk it's not true. >> by the way, don my recommendation to the president is exactly that. i think he should release her from the nda in my opinion. >> oh. >> i think he should. that would be good for the country. i think it would be good for the administration. so a that we can get talking about the things i want to talk about which is economic growth. >> it's on company e-mail, right. it's on company e-mail. >> i actually donated. >> you know when you work for a company they can read your e-mails. e-mail you i don't want the bosses to read. you don't think that somebody in i.t., somebody knew- everybody check your e-mail they randomly read e-mails. >> i'll defend the president to the hilt on this. i think this is unfair. he is our first entrepreneur president ever. the fact that he had a company which no president had in american history, a company and campaign which largely overlapped means that of course -- there are e-mails overlapping. that is -- >> steve are you saying that the incompetency defense? is that the incompetency defense. >> it's not flaming. >> i think you should help the president. >> i'll give you, jen the last word. >> i don't think this helps the president. because that position basically says well you just said, that therefore trump wasn't involved in the agreement and she is free to talk about what whatever she wants. but my view is notwithstanding the argument that he didn't sign that agreement, there was a bilateral contract, a promise not to talk and there was a receipt of money. and i think in the end that's what's happening to that case. the other cases are more concerning, because they involve a predator behavior. the consensual relationships are only important to me because of the lies. but the predator relationship with the lies, that's something else. and the -- the deal, whether or not it works out for you know in that lawsuit, the deal that is using money in the context of the campaign, i think that's a critical element to conceal from the voters. and that's -- did that's the real meat of that case. >> i have to run. but i have to say this. i don't think people are surprised that the president had an affair. i think the people are just concerned about the covering up of the affair. >> yes. >> yeah. >> the constant covering up. >> that's what gets. >> they are more concerned about the proermts. >> there are there are other concerns. there were other concerns during bill clinton. during other things. other concerns during watergate. but sometimes things rise to the top and when a woman is involved that's not your wife. >> two women that are not his wife. >> stormy is from baton rouge my hometown. we don't back down easily. president trump ignores advisers and congratulates vladimir putin for for re-election victory even they they warned him not it in all caps. i'm asking mark and dan about this. ♪ with expedia you could book a flight, hotel, car and activity all in one place. ♪ they have businesses to run they have passions to pursue how do they avoid trips to the post office? stamps.com mail letters ship packages all the amazing services of the post office right on your computer get a 4 week trial plus $100 in extras including postage and a digital scale go to stamps.com/tv and never go to the post office again go to stamps.com/tv and never go to but i'm not standing still... and with godaddy, i've made my ideas real. ♪ i made my own way, now it's time to make yours. ♪ everything is working, just like it should ♪ if there is one thing we have learned about president trump it's that telling him not to do something is a surest way to get him to do it. it's not really surprising that he went against the advisers warning and congratulated vladimir putin and putin's re-election. i bring in mark mckinnon the executive producer of showtime as the circus" and dan pfeiffer. good to have you on. "the washington post" is reporting that president trump's national security advisers begged him not to congratulate putin on the election victory that trump's briefing materials included a section do not congratulate in all capital letters but trump did it anyway. i mean, who knows if he saw the briefing materials or not. "the new york times" are saying maybe he didn't see them. but could they have been anymore clear do you think? >> apparently not. and i mean, the good news. or. >> mark. >> mark we're losing your satellite. o we have satellite break up. it looks fine now can you start the answer over? >> sure. i'll just say this is good news. the good news is there are still advisers for the president telling him to do the right thing like under these circumstances. the bad news is he is not only ignoring the critics now. he is ignoring his own national security advisers. it's just -- it's so confounding when there is the specter of the cloud of russia investigation that the president wouldn't do more to express some note of dissension, criticism of a country that has taken an offensive against our democracy. >> yes. listen, i want to ask you, dan, because david axelrod was on a little bit earlier and pointed out to anderson and other folks as well, have said it afterwards. that president obama congratulated putin back in 2012, to maintain a good relationship with the russian leader. what's different now. >> the context is obviously different. obviously what happened in the election is specific. what happened in the united kingdom is a big deal. the russian aggression has gone up. if this was in a vacuum, the fact that trump didn't read the briefing and congratulated putin. wouldn't be the biggest dealing in the they have to deal with russia on issues from iran to syria. but the problem is it fits in a pattern of taking at every opportunity a pro-putin stance. it's not clear whether it's a view out of american russian relations or the weird psychological things where if the president feels like he says anything bad about russia it somehow diminish mids his electoral victory. in and of itself congratulating putin doesn't -- is is not great. it's not ideal but not the end of the world. it's the larger pattern that should be concerning. >> dan, let me ask you quickly, because i think it was the russians who talked about the phone call, who leaked it if you will or process ut it out there. who do you think is -- is -- where is this coming from inside the white house? >> i think -- i have no inside knowledge. but my questions is it is the professionals in the national security councils deeply concerned about president trump's approach to russia. and -- because what he is do something flying in the face of the considered judgment of professionals with the national security councils, state department, department of defense and the intelligence agencies. i think that they felt a need to say something. this is a leak not of vanity or anger or malice. this is a leak of people concerned about the direction the president is taking the country. >> do you think that bolsters mark the conspiracy theory of a deep state? >> well, i think that the idea of a deep state is one that obviously trump has been fomenting in an effort to delegitamize the investigation. but the problem with that at the end of the day if trump is innocent then he should allow the investigate investigation to go forward and all he has been doing is dieting the intelligence services. for me as a republican to look at this president and say, you know, republicans use to be for the rule of law, for free trade, against deficits and auto krats and dictators. and so we're -- where is the core of the republican vision on this president? by the way let me ask dan a question. let's you say hypothetically. if we arrived at this points under president x and said we had tax cuts that created a booming economy or contributed to high pressure huge job growth success against isis progress against talks with north korea. we'd be in good shape for the mid-terms won you say, dan? >> putting aside the historical challenge to the midterm. i guess that president would no have a approval rating closer to 35 than 45. >> it would be higher. we would have the folks saying thanks obama for the economy handed to the current president. mark, i want to get in this. i want to you respond to this. dan i'll bring you in. three days after trump's twitter tie raid we talked about aimed at mueller we are hearing from republican leaders on capitol hill and giving support to the special counsel. listen to this. >> i agree with the president's lawyers, that bob mueller should be allowed to finish his job. i think it was a excellent appointment. i think he will lead -- he will go wherever the facts lead him. and i think he will have great credibility with the american people when he reaches the conclusion of this investigation. so i have a lot of confidence in him. >> the special counsel should be free to follow through the investigation to the completion without interference, absolutely. i am confident that he will be able to do that. i have received assurance that is his firing is not under consideration. >> mark the house speaker failed to disclose who assured him the special prosecutor is safe. >> i'm glad other people have voices especially and including mitch mcconnell. it's so critical at this point that we have a chorus of republicans recommending that we stay the course and see if investigation through. there would be nothing more catastrophic in our history barring some relevant historical parallels like watergate that, you know, getting rid of mueller or somehow ending the investigation, would be the worst of all possible scenarios. it would lead the public -- certainly lead to impeachment. so maintain the course. and bob mueller in this investigation and let it play out. >> so, dan, do you think that they should be so assured that he is not going to try to fire mueller? because he could do it on a whim. >> no, no. the i mean the compensates- it's glad -- i thought it was good that mitch mcconnell validated the integrities of bob mueller areas investigation. i thought paul ryan's comment was utterly absurd. assurances from trump's staff who we heard all weekend he is not listening to. and trump has a history -- did he has no history of being honest or doing the right thing. these are not assurances you can take to the bank. it wasn't a particularly convincing statement. and it doesn't do anything to asuage the fears of republicans and democrats that if trump were to fire mueller that paul ryan would do nothing about it. he would be disappointed maybe he would say he didn't read it. that there would be no action from the house republicans because to date they have shone unwillingness to stand to up to trump on anything. >> didn't he tell mcgahn he wanted to fire mueller. mcgahn defied the story and he said well you did tell me to fire him. >> quickly mark because i have tg to break. you have satellite fade. >> i think that's true. but there are only two scenarios one is fires mueller and definitely gets impeached or doesn't fire him and maybe gets impeached. i think even hannity would tell him you fire him and get impeached. >> we're cut going short. we have satellite break pup we thank you i appreciate it. when we come back an explosion in austin, texas injuries one person. police say it was an incendiary device. but not connected to recent bombings in the city. we'll bring you the update after this. 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>> reporter: well, don, you summed it up. this is a city on edge. at about 7:00 tonight this goodwill center, the report went out that there had been a bomb, a reported bomb. the atf was on the scene, the fbi was on the scene. local law enforcement. it turns out that somebody dropped off a box of donations and in the box there was a military memento. saying it's an artillery simulator when an employee threw it in the crash it ignited. he is going to be fine. but this city as it is really, really on edge. as this report was coming in i was in neighborhood ten minutes away where that trip wire bomb went off sunday night. i was talking to a grandfather there with his granddaughter. he says he wasn't taking her out for ice cream because who knows when he strikes next. >> what about the two bombs this morning. one didn't detonate. what's the common link with the other ones in the scenario? >> reporter: well the fbi came out and said the two bombs are definitely linked to the spate of bombings we have seen since march 2nd. one detonated shortly after midnight one blew at a fedex facility. another one found in a sorting facility at fedex near the austin airport. that didn't detonate. and fedex knows how to track a package. they handed over a lot of information to investigators and we are told by a local police department that the fbi is looking into a possibility that both packages were dropped off at the same office. the probability that they were dropped off the same office here in austin, that's a major lead right now. >> reporting from austin, nick, thank you very much. i want to pri in jim maxwell. jim good evening to you. if this is a single person he or she seems to have a pretty sophisticated knowledge of bomb making, in addition to the bomb that went off in the fedex facility this morning. three bombs were hidden in packages delivered to homes. but one device was anchored to a for sale sign on the side of the road and rigged with a trip wire. what does that level of knowledge tell you? >> well, without looking at the device itself and knowing the type of type of explosive used and somehow it was initiated. we can't make a call on whether or not they are sophisticated devices. i will tell you it's easy to search the internet and find on either the and arkist cook book or inspire magazine any of the publications and find step by step strikes how to construct the devices. based on what i've seen at the cranium seen especially where the trip wire was used, the earth is somewhat disturbed. it's not cratered. it looks like a low explosives. low explosives needs to be put inside a container. not to say that low explosive is extremely dangerous. a low explosive was used in the boston marathon as well as the chelsey bombing. this device in proximity to a crowd is effective. in a remote area. so i think the jury is still out whether or not the guy has real training. like -- anybody with reasonably intelligence who can follow instructions could make a device like this, based what i've seen so far. >> and so. >> and until they release -- until they release the details on how this device was constructed i think we're guessing at that point. >> let's talk a little bit about that, okay. because this is just in. sources telling cnn a federal law enforcement source involved in the investigation tell cnn that they think the bombers mot seven to cause mayhem and death and doesn't appear to be targeting one group. okay. so some of the details of the investigation that they're sharing is that one of the devices -- widely held belief it's the same person making the device. there are a lot of consistents, similar in the way made. either a mouse trip or clothespin switch. they are meant to kill people. what do you think? >> those -- those devices are -- that's bombmaking 101. the basic trip wire device can be easily constructed with fishing line, clothespin and some sort of non-conductive material plastic or a piece of wood and place it inside the clothespin close pin has two electrical ends that would complete a circuit and put the wood between the clothespin that stuff is easily available out there. >> here is what it -- the level of bomb making skill -- just -- i don't want to interrupt you but i want to you know this information and respond to. >> sure the level of bombmaking skill doesn't necessarily point to military experience. it says the source tells cnn that's the kind of stuff they ee in the "anarchist cookbook" victim-activated stuff. >> exactly a victim act waited in the device. >> they are living or opening the box, very simple circuits can be conducted to cause a device to initiate by lifting or opening a box. the unabomber used a plunger type device when the box was lifted off the ground it set off the device. so right now i think what we have is a wealth of potential information. because one device that didn't initiate. depending how the bomb techs had to rsp the device render it safe, once they can do that they can do forensics on pennsylvania >> yeah. >> looking at fingerprinting looking at dpa and also looking at components. now, i participated in the iraq in the later part of my career with what they call the combined explosive exploitation cell. we learned in war conditions how to collect this information and we were very successful in tracing bombs back to the origin based on the information collected at the scene. so this ability is here. >> and there was. >> i think this -- >> one found intact this morning and they will get the information you mentioned earlier just like you said earlier thank you be, jim i appreciate your time. >> okay thank you. >> when we come back ben carson throwing his wife under the bus for ordering that infamous $31,000 dining set. really? but i'm not standing still... and with godaddy, i've made my ideas real. ♪ i made my own way, now it's time to make yours. ♪ everything is working, just like it should ♪ we have hot topics tonight from the "sex in the city" star running for office to dr. carson blaming his wife for that $31,000 dining set for the hud. threw her right under the bus. here with our panel. our council speaker christine speen. you have some explaining to do. let me set it up. "sex and the city" star cynthia nixon announced that she is running for governor of new york and challenging andrew cuomo. here's what she told "the new york post." she said it's a flate of fancy on her part. she was opposed to having a qualified lesbian to be mayor of new york city. you have to be qualified and have experience. she isn't qualified to be governor. your comments have come under fire. what were you getting at? that statement. >> well, look, i would say a couple of things. one i was trying to make a comparison between the two of us in a way i thought might be quippy or even a little funny. it obviously came out in a different way. a way that has left some people feeling as if i was raising her sexual orientation as a reason she was not qualified to run or be governor. nothing could be further from the truth. so for any with whom i left that impression, i sincerely apologize. >> you understand if someone on the right said that about -- they would be seen as inflammatory. >> absolutely. that was not my intent at all. i'm somebody dedicated most of my career to fighting for the advancement of the lgbt community. i know what it's like to be on the end of homophobia and sexism on the campaign trail and political office. i experienced it. if anybody attacks her for being a lesbian when she runs for governor. i will be supporting her in that regard. it was ill advised. i was trying to make a comparison. it came out sideways. i stand by my statement that she is unqualified. >> so i get it. and listen you have taken ownership of comments. and by the way you got two girls you have the same hair color pretty much. it's like so much going on here. okay. >> thank you. >> mr. bauer. >> let's talk hud secretary and his before candy picked out a $31,000 dining room set. contradictory statements by the agency that carson knew nothing about it today he said this this. >> if it was up to me my office would look like a hospital waiting room. but at any rate i invited my wife to come in and help me downstairs. she showed us catalogs, the prices were beyond what i wanted to pay. i made it clear that didn't seem right to me. and you know, i left it with my wife. >> so, is he sleeping on the couch tonight? >> man. uh b >> $31,000. >> sleeping in the dog house. >> not the best situation at home. i think he did a good job answering the question. he pass to do off to his wife. it sounds believable to me. i think he has done a good job overall. i think he is a class ac. and i hope that in passes quickly because of the fact that he has a bigger fish to fry. but the optics aren't good, don. any time you're a republican you need to -- that's one of the things is we say we are better with finances. we are more shrewd with the tax dollar we have to stake to that. we're under a different set of rules frankly. >> so. >> you can't claim it and then not. >> i have a different opinion on this. i think that ben carson was never qualified speaking of being unqualified. >> yes. >> yes he was a brilliant brain surgeon. that was his legacy. he ruined that. he should have stuff to what he knew and not gone down this path. he had no business being hud secretary. even his buddy armstrong williams said i didn't have experience and wasn't going to take it because he couldn't run a large agency. you can't sit here telling me someone understanding how to run a cabinet agency ever would have allowed this. this is more than -- first of all his wife isn't on the payroll what is she doing picking things out? number two there is a limit $5,000. there was a career official that raised the concern about the amount of money being spent on this. you have to get congressional approval if you have ordered anything over $5,000 process person was a whistleblower because candy carson she -- she basically threatened her and so she had to become a whistleblower in order to expose this. this is completely wrong. >> his son is involved in the politics. >> what is shocking is that the trump administration we see these kinds ever things. bringing your son in for a lucrative side deal. look what the trump family is doing in terms of the secret service costs of the costs. then steve mnuchin, person after person, it comes from the top. the ethos is get as much as you can from donald trump. >> he doesn't even take a paycheck. >> donald trump having people stay at trump hotels for government business. >> giddy about the fact about how much business he was losing at mar-a-lago. there was a story about how great it was he was losing business at mar-a-lago. >> donald trump intertwined his business dealings with the public affairs of the government in a way we have not seen. >> ways. >> not surprised that ben carson. >> bend carson's wife is involved. susan pompeo has also taken unusually active role in the cia. you have the epa administer scott pruitt spent $200,000 on first-class airfare, charlotte, military flights, secure soundproof phone booth. he says he needs that. that's a lot of money we have more. we're -- we have to go and when we come back we'll talk about melania trump addressing her husband's own twitter habits about bullying after this. my name is jeff sheldon, and i'm the founder of ugmonk. before shipstation it was crazy. it's great when you see a hundred orders come in, a hundred orders come in, but then you realize i've got a hundred orders i have to ship out. shipstation streamlined that wh the order data, the weights of , everything is seamlessly put into shipstation, so when we print the shipping ll everything's pretty much done. it's so much easier so now, we're ready, bring on t. shipstation. the number one ch of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/tv and get two months free. the first lady's campaign against cyber bullying has a lot of people questioning whether she has ever talked to her husband about his twitter habits. but the first lady addressed the issue head on today, watch this. >> i'm well aware that people are skeptical of me discussing this topic. i have been criticized for my commitment for tackling this issue and i know that will continue. but it will not stop me from doing what i know is right. >> okay, so she says she wants to do what's right. sometimes i wonder if they're punking all of us, right? for her to pick that and then -- i'm not saying anything bad, just a figure of speech, the elephant in the room is her husband. >> yeah, this poor woman. i mean, look. the truth is donald trump humiliates and degrades everyone around him. right? very much including his wife. in numerous ways. >> repeatedly. >> why would you say this poor woman chose that? she's an adult -- >> i don't feel sorry for her at all. >> she made decisions. but i have not seen her act in the way her husband has done. somehow she's along for the ride. i don't obviously know what's there. but the fact that -- >> she sat in this studio years ago with joy behar when joy had her show on this network and co-signed the birther issue. i know she wants to do the right thing but she's not just along for the ride. melania trump is not some naive woman -- >> the "access hollywood" tape too -- >> oh, that's right, right. >> fair enough. >> she's not a victim. >> she's been complicit in all this. she's an absolute national laughing stock -- >> i disagree, she's exactly what hillary clinton said what republican women are, she's not. she tried to -- she has said, i'm an independent thinker. where hillary clinton said, i lost because women -- republican women do whatever their husbands say -- >> i thought they were saying the same thing -- >> an independent woman -- >> hillary clinton said i stand by my man -- >> she's not, she's taking on a topic some would say is contrary to her husband's actions and she is not -- >> she stands up to her husband? wait, what? >> has she stood up to her husband and criticized him for being the cyber bully in chief? he as walking, living, breathing example of everything she claims she's going to be fighting against. it's rich to think we're supposed to take melania trump seriously when she chooses to be with a man who's an obnoxious bully, to everyone, also a sexist, also a womanizer. we're supposed to take her seriously on anything whatsoever? she's an independent thinker? >> hold on, i would think in this aspect that she and hillary clinton have a lot alike, they both chose to stay with men -- >> who are womanizers. >> who are womanizers. and whatever works in their marriage, i'm not judging them, that's their business, but there's no difference between her and hillary clinton in that aspect. >> she's taken on a topic many are criticizing her and she hasn't backed down, she hasn't stopped, she has decided that is her crusade -- >> she has no credibility on it. >> i think she does. >> what? >> she's been a victim where her child was bullied and should be totally off limits by the way. >> of course, of course. >> yes, should be. >> i think the question here is, if she really, really wants to do right, as she said, on the terrible issue of cyber bullying, then she's obligated to stand up and say, my husband is part of the problem. and what we all need to do is turn to the people close to us, our spouses, our co-workers, and say, you're being a bully, a cyber bully, you need to stop, and i am publicly asking my husband to do the same. that would be independent, that would be powerful, that would be an example for all of us to take up in our lives. >> people in glass houses. >> exactly. she's not doing that. >> and i've got to go. >> glass houses with gold trim. >> happy birthday, andre bauer what are you, 68? 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